Ive had many "not registered" errors when trying to place a calls over WiFi and called in for support to TMo many times. The third week and the fourth or fifth "PDA" service guy went all out and then gave up and turned me over to "Loyalty". Its like getting switched to the inquisition. THEY told me, 'bad news' Vibrant can't make calls over WiFi. SO I confessed it only worked 50% of the time.
When I agreed to take the phone, TMo said it would support UMA. In the mean time I think they decided they would not support UMA. I can call TMo phone mail no problem and the phone rings and then disconnects. It will make a call from "voice" but shows the not registered error when I dial a number. It has to be TMo router settings. They offered to send me a 3G Curve which they said would support UMA telephony, but they had no other phones - oh yah maybe the "Shaddow" was available but even they wouldn't go so far. I'm SOOOO sick of RIM, really, really sick. So I rejected that. So now I'm making calls and receiving calls over WiFi, but not reliably and with no support.
I'm fairly certain this is the tip of the big iceberg. My Vibrant was very early pre-purchase, so it might not have had all the TMo down mods. Never the less, it seems crazy that I would pay them to use my own DSL/WiFi as I seem to be doing with my HTC Incredible/Verizon phone. It works great, but of course I pay.
TMo gave me some questionable information regarding using Vonage, which I found does is not suposed to work with the Vibrant. They also said no Android phone will work with TMo hot spots, which I am inclined to accept. It appears all the carriers will do anything to keep a branded hand set off of free WiFi telephony. So I'm trying Google Voice. It registers, but I have so far not recieved a call to my new Gvoice phone number.
Do I need to root the phone? Are there apps that will help? Does any one out there think the 2.2 upgrade with the TMo holy water has a ghost of a chance of making WiFi phone calls without a TMo charge? My Incredible/Verizon still tethers on PDA-net and I think that is not charged. But I'm not clear on that either.
I just pre-bought a Tab through Cell Phone Hut. I will see if a device free of TMo tweeks will route telephony over WiFi. All I really need is a cheep pre-paid SIMS card for OTA. It's nuts thinking to pay 3G or 4G OTA data rates when the same data is free over WiFi. There will be many Android apps to do all your data I/O when you are in range.
cheers all... thx for any light on this!
Umm what? You're able to make calls on wifi 50% Of the time. You can make Google voice calls over wifi? You were told the vibrant would have uma? ?? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but....
Google voice is NOT a voip service so i think you're misjudging its use.
Vibrant was never said to have wifi calling, just like every other android.
An app called kineto was recently announced that does wifi calling but its not uma. it doesn't hand off to cell network. Its announced to be available for the new mytouch n moto defy.
Also, tmo uma will no longer give you 'free calling'. It takes from your minutes so its only real advantage is to extend coverage.
I'm a woman. Stop assuming everyone on this forum is a bro, dude, or man. Sent from my Vibrant.
The Vibrant hasn't been confirmed to ever get Wifi calling but it was demo'ed on a Vibrant running 2.2. The feature could possibly be added to the vibrant once it receives the 2.2 update.
This is strange. We've had our vibrants about a week. When I'm home I have the Wifi turned on. The signal bars drop to zero. I have just assumed that my voice calls were going over Wifi to our DSL modem over the Internet.
Note: We happen to have a T-Mo wireless router from back in the days when we were using it with our Blackberries to keep the minutes down. Subsequently T-Mo switched us to an unlimited plan, but we still use this router for one hard-wired home line.
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This is strange. We've had our vibrants about a week. When I'm home I have the Wifi turned on. The signal bars drop to zero. I have just assumed that my voice calls were going over Wifi to our DSL modem over the Internet.
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Signal bars dropping to zero is just a visual indicator; doesn't necessarily mean there is zero signal, just not enough signal to flip the visual indicator. This happens to me quite a lot - I have no signal, but someone calls me and the call quality is fine.
In any case - basic logical fallacy - correlation does not necessarily imply correlation. Although it would be super nice to make calls over wifi!
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There is no Android phone that supports UMA at the moment. The only Android that will have UMA that has been announced so far is the myTouch HD. Not sure why someone would tell you the Vibrant has the feature.
Not only that, 0 bars doesn't mean no service. The circle with a slash means no service
I'm a woman. Stop assuming everyone on this forum is a bro, dude, or man. Sent from my Vibrant.
Where was it ever said that the Vibrant would have UMA? Its one thing if a rep was mistaken but no slick, ad, spec sheet, or anything else that I recall ever implied that UMA was going to be available. I came from a Blackberry to the Vibrant so I felt I was aware that UMA was not available.
UMA in Android NOT
Apparently Android has no UMA support, but a lot of people want it:
Check out Issue 6242 - Google's board for android code / issues.
I am thinking about moving to vibrant and tmobile. the only thing that is stopping me is the lack of uma support on the vibrant. Does anyone know whether this is capability will be added with the 2.2 update??
Have you guys not tried any of the new leaked froyo roms? They all have wifi calling and it works, although its not uma and doesn't hand off it works great. This is actually a Godsend for I have had Tmobile for 7 years and I get no service in my house, finally a solution. I'm not sure this will be released in the upcoming froyo update or it was just pulled from the Mytouch4g and they made it work for our phones.
So it looks like you can not surf the web wiles on a call with the note!?
There any way to change this. I bereaved my streak and i know my iphone would let you
So what up with he note?
"Unofficial Cooler Blue I717"
What are talking about? I browse the web while on phone calls any time i want. Was helping my brother over the phone getting his VZW android phone setup and forgot that VZW doesn't support this, so we were at a loss and thought his phone was defective. Had a big palm to the fore head moment when i remembered who his carrier was.
So long as you are on at&t you will be to do both at the same time.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away!
I did fg it out. Have to hit the home bottom to get out of the call screen
Sorry and thanks
"Unofficial Cooler Blue I717"
While you can browse and talk, the Note knocks your web speed down to a crawl. In many cases to Edge speeds even though you are still on the 3G network. There was another thread around here a few weeks ago where multiple people confirmed this. My old phone had no problem maintaining full speed while on a call so this is some kind of software throttle, not network.
Hey everyone, I just have a quick question. After spending hours and hours googling and flashing roms, I still have not found an answer to this question:
Will T-mobile Wifi Calling ever be available on the samsung vibrant on an ICS ROM?
I have terrible cell coverage in my house and the wifi calling feature works great, however the phone in general is a bit slow compared to some ICS ROMS that I have tried (w/out wifi calling)
Should I hold out for a rom with wifi calling or should I never expect to get a ICS rom with wifi calling?
Thanks in advance.
dont hold you breath they have tried but it failed every time
How about the Gingerbread ROMs on the Vibrant? Does anyone know if there's any with T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling that works?
Hey guys I'm a pretty new member but I want to save on my phone bills by using a flextab from bell on my sg3 and I like Dell voice because you can port your number. Anyone find the voice calls over cellular networks absolutely horrible compared to wifi? I was wondering if there's a fix for this or somehow a way to make my phone think it's on wifi even though it isnt; if that would even help.
Thanks!
By the way I'm in Canada so Google voice isn't an option for me
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Hey guys I'm a pretty new member but I want to save on my phone bills by using a flextab from bell on my sg3 and I like Dell voice because you can port your number. Anyone find the voice calls over cellular networks absolutely horrible compared to wifi? I was wondering if there's a fix for this or somehow a way to make my phone think it's on wifi even though it isnt; if that would even help.
Thanks!
By the way I'm in Canada so Google voice isn't an option for me
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What version are you using currently? They seem to have released a new version that says it has better call quality. I have an SIII on Rogers and the quality is pretty good with the new update. It uses about 32kbps up and 32 kbps down so any decent 3G connection should be able to handle the calls. What is bad about the voice?
Also, since you are using Bell you have no EDGE fall back option, which it doesn't work very well on. Where I live, all I get reliably is EDGE so I have to rely on my WiFi for calling. When I'm in the city though I have had some long conversations without too much issue.
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What version are you using currently? They seem to have released a new version that says it has better call quality. I have an SIII on Rogers and the quality is pretty good with the new update. It uses about 32kbps up and 32 kbps down so any decent 3G connection should be able to handle the calls. What is bad about the voice?
Also, since you are using Bell you have no EDGE fall back option, which it doesn't work very well on. Where I live, all I get reliably is EDGE so I have to rely on my WiFi for calling. When I'm in the city though I have had some long conversations without too much issue.
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Thanks I did the know that! Maybe I should try getting the Rogers flex plan but I heard that it won't work on cellphones.
As some of you have probably read.
I gave up on the M9, mostly prompted by dropped calls, or calls going straight to voice mail.
I had the M9 replaced and gave it to my wife. It's been near perfect for her, she even dunked it and it's still running great.
My G4 is now doing the SAME thing. Although it has not dropped many calls, tons of calls go straight to voice mail.
Had a very important call this morning and even shutoff LTE, WIFI and Bluetooth and only had 3G on. And it went to voice mail.
The signal is not great, but should be fine for CDMA. Previous generation phones were fine (M8,M7, etc.)
I do see the signal bounce. Where it will be 3-4 bars one minute and none the next. The bouncing can be common in weak LTE (which is definitely weak).
But it's even bouncing with LTE off.
Even at home with two phones in the same location.
My wifes M9 will work, but my G4 will go to voice mail.
Where a couple months ago at home
My wifes M8 will work, but my M9 will go to voice mail.
Could their be something on the account that limits my phones? Like wrong bands or something. Not enabled for Spark but on a Spark Network.
As soon as Verizon gets the LG V10, I'm 99% sure I'm gonna switch. Don't know what else to do.
I don't really care for how locked down Verizon is, but I need a working phone.
This problem happens at multiple locations.
Any ideas appreciated.
I know this isn't specifically an M9 issue, but I know their are more experienced folks around here that might know something.
It is related to M9 TYPE phones though (Spark Generation 2-ish phones). It started when I switched from M8 to M9.
Upgrading my wife from M7 to M8 went fine and from M8 to M9 went fine.
Upgrading me from M8 to M9 went south and from M9 to G4 went south.
All SIM cards cam with respective phones.
All bought new.
All S-Off and/or rooted.
I may have found the answer. Read this !! It has to do with having WIFI on and phone going to sleep. Which is exactly what happens on G4 and M9.
https://community.koodomobile.com/k...ot-receiving-calls-on-android-5-1-1-with-wifi
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I may have found the answer. Read this !! It has to do with having WIFI on and phone going to sleep. Which is exactly what happens on G4 and M9.
https://community.koodomobile.com/k...ot-receiving-calls-on-android-5-1-1-with-wifi
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I disagree...I'm using the opposite settings that he is saying to use & I've never had this issue (that I know of). I don't make alot of outgoing calls...most are incoming...I also have my work cell fwd'd to my M9 so I don't have to carry 2 devices...I'm on Wifi a majority of the time, I get calls & texts all the time w/ no issues...the only thing I have checked in Advanced WiFi is Wifi Optimization, Keep Wifi on during sleep set to always
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The fix is to not have Wifi on when the phone is idle/sleep. change your Wifi settings below to the screenshot below.
Settings -- > Wifi -- > MORE -- > Advanced -- > "Keep Wi-Fi on during Sleep = Never"
I also have "Network notification" and "Always allow scanning" enabled.
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Sprint did (in my opinion) a very poor job with how it handles calls. One of my favorite phones was the evo LTE which not only could do LTE and a call at the same time but if you weren't in 4G it could do SV-DO and work on 3G which it actually worked very well. Especially at the time when I had that phone, I hardly had 4G anywhere so being able to use data at the same time on 3G was great.
That said, that feature didn't stick around long. The m7 had a separate radio for LTE & 1X meaning you could surf at the same time because it had separate radios. This couldn't do 3G which was a step backwards however 4G was becoming more mature.
Fast forward to today and with your modern tri-band device while it supports multiple bands that the previous phones didn't, most people have no idea what that means they usually assuming if it's a 4G phone well then it's just that how is any different.
I have had plenty of people complain to me about calls going straight to voicemail or signal issues. Rather than having separate radios, Sprint just uses CSFB Circuit Switched fallback so when a call comes in, it lets the phone know via LTE and immediately switches back to 1X to grab the call. That said it's by no means perfect especially in a bad signal LTE area can cause issues. When I'm at home or work I usually set my phone to CDMA only since I have wi-fi there is no advantage to be on LTE, causes issues with calls coming through and wastes battery. Most users have no idea about what is actually going on so it's hard to explain to a friend why when a caller calls them, the caller might here 5-6 rings before the phone even goes off. Sprint's LTE signal frankly sucks in most places I go, even right next to the tower sometimes you won't get full signal.
Anyway if your wifes phone works fine in the same spot as your G and you are doing all your testing off of LTE and still having issues that tells me either you have a bad radio again or something is provisioned wrong. I would put the phone back to stock, reset the radio and reactive the phone then do some testing with calls off LTE again. If you still have issues at the point, I would swap the phone. My M9 is pretty good with CSFB, I haven't had too many issues with it but really I think it's a very poor solution how it works especially when your in a fridge LTE area with the phone bouncing in and out of LTE.
Once the network goes all LTE (god knows how long that will take) I think this will be a thing of the past but for now CSFB now it's here to stay. I don't see Sprint ever going back to separate radios like the previous gen phones as they would more likely be focused on voice over LTE instead.
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I disagree...I'm using the opposite settings that he is saying to use & I've never had this issue (that I know of). I don't make alot of outgoing calls...most are incoming...I also have my work cell fwd'd to my M9 so I don't have to carry 2 devices...I'm on Wifi a majority of the time, I get calls & texts all the time w/ no issues...the only thing I have checked in Advanced WiFi is Wifi Optimization, Keep Wifi on during sleep set to always
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It has not failed in 5 days since I flipped it.
It may depend on the WIFI it's on, IPV6 etc. I don't know.
I think this may have started the same time MMS started failing for SOME folks if WIFI was enabled. Disabling IPV6 on WIFI was a work around (which is disabled on your ROM).
But not everyone had this issue and depended on their router.
So their is weird sh$t happening due to Android changes.
I think this issue is related and not everyone runs into it.
I have had WIFI Calling setup, but disabled it on both M9 and G4 (because it's extremely unstable on every phone I've tried).
Not sure if that is part of it. Like my account knows it's WIFI Calling capable. But my wifes never had WIFI Calling setup, she also does not run WIFI at work. She's never had the problem (even with the same phone I had problems with).
Again I don't know the exact details, and this is not a fix. But disabling WIFI when asleep seems to have stopped it problem. But I need to go a bit longer to be 100% sure.
I've seen similar threads on many phones and carriers and many start off saying "Problem started with 5.x.x OTA update".
I think I was close when I thought it was the optimizer. And before I found that thread, I was testing with WIFI completely off (which also worked).
Something is a miss and there may be more "options" to cause the issue.
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Sprint did (in my opinion) a very poor job with how it handles calls. One of my favorite phones was the evo LTE which not only could do LTE and a call at the same time but if you weren't in 4G it could do SV-DO and work on 3G which it actually worked very well. Especially at the time when I had that phone, I hardly had 4G anywhere so being able to use data at the same time on 3G was great.
That said, that feature didn't stick around long. The m7 had a separate radio for LTE & 1X meaning you could surf at the same time because it had separate radios. This couldn't do 3G which was a step backwards however 4G was becoming more mature.
Fast forward to today and with your modern tri-band device while it supports multiple bands that the previous phones didn't, most people have no idea what that means they usually assuming if it's a 4G phone well then it's just that how is any different.
I have had plenty of people complain to me about calls going straight to voicemail or signal issues. Rather than having separate radios, Sprint just uses CSFB Circuit Switched fallback so when a call comes in, it lets the phone know via LTE and immediately switches back to 1X to grab the call. That said it's by no means perfect especially in a bad signal LTE area can cause issues. When I'm at home or work I usually set my phone to CDMA only since I have wi-fi there is no advantage to be on LTE, causes issues with calls coming through and wastes battery. Most users have no idea about what is actually going on so it's hard to explain to a friend why when a caller calls them, the caller might here 5-6 rings before the phone even goes off. Sprint's LTE signal frankly sucks in most places I go, even right next to the tower sometimes you won't get full signal.
Anyway if your wifes phone works fine in the same spot as your G and you are doing all your testing off of LTE and still having issues that tells me either you have a bad radio again or something is provisioned wrong. I would put the phone back to stock, reset the radio and reactive the phone then do some testing with calls off LTE again. If you still have issues at the point, I would swap the phone. My M9 is pretty good with CSFB, I haven't had too many issues with it but really I think it's a very poor solution how it works especially when your in a fridge LTE area with the phone bouncing in and out of LTE.
Once the network goes all LTE (god knows how long that will take) I think this will be a thing of the past but for now CSFB now it's here to stay. I don't see Sprint ever going back to separate radios like the previous gen phones as they would more likely be focused on voice over LTE instead.
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thx for the info!
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It has not failed in 5 days since I flipped it.
It may depend on the WIFI it's on, IPV6 etc. I don't know.
I think this may have started the same time MMS started failing for SOME folks if WIFI was enabled. Disabling IPV6 on WIFI was a work around (which is disabled on your ROM).
But not everyone had this issue and depended on their router.
So their is weird sh$t happening due to Android changes.
I think this issue is related and not everyone runs into it.
I have had WIFI Calling setup, but disabled it on both M9 and G4 (because it's extremely unstable on every phone I've tried).
Not sure if that is part of it. Like my account knows it's WIFI Calling capable. But my wifes never had WIFI Calling setup, she also does not run WIFI at work. She's never had the problem (even with the same phone I had problems with).
Again I don't know the exact details, and this is not a fix. But disabling WIFI when asleep seems to have stopped it problem. But I need to go a bit longer to be 100% sure.
I've seen similar threads on many phones and carriers and many start off saying "Problem started with 5.x.x OTA update".
I think I was close when I thought it was the optimizer. And before I found that thread, I was testing with WIFI completely off (which also worked).
Something is a miss and there may be more "options" to cause the issue.
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I'd blame gremlins yes, weird sh*t...and yeah, we still have ipv6 disabled in ROM for wifi
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Sprint did (in my opinion) a very poor job with how it handles calls. One of my favorite phones was the evo LTE which not only could do LTE and a call at the same time but if you weren't in 4G it could do SV-DO and work on 3G which it actually worked very well. Especially at the time when I had that phone, I hardly had 4G anywhere so being able to use data at the same time on 3G was great.
That said, that feature didn't stick around long. The m7 had a separate radio for LTE & 1X meaning you could surf at the same time because it had separate radios. This couldn't do 3G which was a step backwards however 4G was becoming more mature.
Fast forward to today and with your modern tri-band device while it supports multiple bands that the previous phones didn't, most people have no idea what that means they usually assuming if it's a 4G phone well then it's just that how is any different.
I have had plenty of people complain to me about calls going straight to voicemail or signal issues. Rather than having separate radios, Sprint just uses CSFB Circuit Switched fallback so when a call comes in, it lets the phone know via LTE and immediately switches back to 1X to grab the call. That said it's by no means perfect especially in a bad signal LTE area can cause issues. When I'm at home or work I usually set my phone to CDMA only since I have wi-fi there is no advantage to be on LTE, causes issues with calls coming through and wastes battery. Most users have no idea about what is actually going on so it's hard to explain to a friend why when a caller calls them, the caller might here 5-6 rings before the phone even goes off. Sprint's LTE signal frankly sucks in most places I go, even right next to the tower sometimes you won't get full signal.
Anyway if your wifes phone works fine in the same spot as your G and you are doing all your testing off of LTE and still having issues that tells me either you have a bad radio again or something is provisioned wrong. I would put the phone back to stock, reset the radio and reactive the phone then do some testing with calls off LTE again. If you still have issues at the point, I would swap the phone. My M9 is pretty good with CSFB, I haven't had too many issues with it but really I think it's a very poor solution how it works especially when your in a fridge LTE area with the phone bouncing in and out of LTE.
Once the network goes all LTE (god knows how long that will take) I think this will be a thing of the past but for now CSFB now it's here to stay. I don't see Sprint ever going back to separate radios like the previous gen phones as they would more likely be focused on voice over LTE instead.
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I know about the call switching for LTE and it sucks. But that was not it. I tried CDMA only and it did not fix it.
Disabling WIFI while sleeping is still working. Not one call has gone to voice mail at work in over a week. It used to happen 2-3 times a day.
I HATE disabling wifi while asleep though. I'd like to still get to the bottom of it.
I think some how it is doing something over WIFI when a call comes in, if WIFI is available. But when the WIFI is in power save mode something gets messed up.
The problem started on OMJ's ROM with IPV6 disabled. So it's not that.
The only thing common is Lollipop, Sprint and my WIFI locations (and a modern single radio triband phone).
I'd like to try getting "WIFI Calling" capability off my account. I think once you set it up once, it's enabled automatically on my account.
I will also say, if I do enable WIFI Calling, it's terribly unreliable. Maybe that's a hint.
The WIFI signal is solid and no issues using WIFI itself.
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I know about the call switching for LTE and it sucks. But that was not it. I tried CDMA only and it did not fix it.
Disabling WIFI while sleeping is still working. Not one call has gone to voice mail at work in over a week. It used to happen 2-3 times a day.
I HATE disabling wifi while asleep though. I'd like to still get to the bottom of it.
I think some how it is doing something over WIFI when a call comes in, if WIFI is available. But when the WIFI is in power save mode something gets messed up.
The problem started on OMJ's ROM with IPV6 disabled. So it's not that.
The only thing common is Lollipop, Sprint and my WIFI locations (and a modern single radio triband phone).
I'd like to try getting "WIFI Calling" capability off my account. I think once you set it up once, it's enabled automatically on my account.
I will also say, if I do enable WIFI Calling, it's terribly unreliable. Maybe that's a hint.
The WIFI signal is solid and no issues using WIFI itself.
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Having Wi-Fi calling provisioned on your account is just that, it just means if you enable wi-fi calling that your phone has the green light to connect and move forward with the server. That said if you keep wi-fi calling off the fact that it is still provisioned on the account doesn't affect anything at all if the service is not active.
If you only solution is disabling wi-fi while sleeping something in the rom is borked. Return the phone to 100% stock, hard reset it (including the radio) then try using it again. While again CSFB isn't perfect, if the phone is CDMA only you just shouldn't be having this kind of issue. If your not having issues with other phones in the same area with calls going to vm, you know it's not the network and something with the phone. If it does this on 100% stock after a re provision then you have a borked radio and the phone should be swapped. Which I have seen borked radios before, the wi-fi radio in the phone is totally separate from the CDMA/LTE radio.
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Having Wi-Fi calling provisioned on your account is just that, it just means if you enable wi-fi calling that your phone has the green light to connect and move forward with the server. That said if you keep wi-fi calling off the fact that it is still provisioned on the account doesn't affect anything at all if the service is not active.
If you only solution is disabling wi-fi while sleeping something in the rom is borked. Return the phone to 100% stock, hard reset it (including the radio) then try using it again. While again CSFB isn't perfect, if the phone is CDMA only you just shouldn't be having this kind of issue. If your not having issues with other phones in the same area with calls going to vm, you know it's not the network and something with the phone. If it does this on 100% stock after a re provision then you have a borked radio and the phone should be swapped. Which I have seen borked radios before, the wi-fi radio in the phone is totally separate from the CDMA/LTE radio.
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Did that, returned to stock, same issue. Got Another M9, same issue, got a LG G4 same issue. Just signed up for T-Mobile (have not canceled Sprint yet). Two LG V10's. T-Mobile just announced a huge expansion on their network to cover areas that I needed with LTE (Sprint roams 1x Lakes Region and North in NH).
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Did that, returned to stock, same issue. Got Another M9, same issue, got a LG G4 same issue. Just signed up for T-Mobile (have not canceled Sprint yet). Two LG V10's. T-Mobile just announced a huge expansion on their network to cover areas that I needed with LTE (Sprint roams 1x Lakes Region and North in NH).
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Not a bad play, Sprint's Network has come along way in the past few years but with CSFB and a crappy LTE signal is most places they still have a lot of work to do. One of the reasons I stay is my plan and they are pretty friendly towards rooting/unlocking for the most part.
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Not a bad play, Sprint's Network has come along way in the past few years but with CSFB and a crappy LTE signal is most places they still have a lot of work to do. One of the reasons I stay is my plan and they are pretty friendly towards rooting/unlocking for the most part.
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The V10 was awesome. T-Mobile was extremely good at My work, My wifes work, Home and all places between. Speeds were 4-8x faster (seriously) than Sprint. Simultaneous Voice and Data VoLTE.
But what the map showed up in NH, didn't match reality at all. Sprint is pretty dismal too, but they at least Roam and you can get 1x or 3G from either US Cellar or Verizon.
But T-Mobile had nothing in the areas Sprints Roams. So I'm sticking with Sprint for now.
I've concluded it's a combination of weak locations, the requirement to switch from LTE to CDMA for calls, and something around that is complicated by WIFI while asleep. Shutting off WIFI or shutting it off while asleep definitely improved things but didn't eliminate it completely. Both phones (M9 and G4) are Qualcomm chips and probably have similar Radio Firmware. But it's overly complicated due to Sprint being a bit behind the ball with VoLTE.
I agree Sprint is not quite so tight on locking things down. T-Mobile is the least locked down, then Sprint, then AT&T then Verizon. I know Verizon would perform flawlessly. But the combination of expense and being so locked down keeps me away. T-Mobile price was really good 2 lines 10GB each, with Carry Over and free Music/Video streaming. And the V10 already had TWRP on day one. The G4 on Sprint does not have TWRP and probably never will. It is rootable, barely.
I convinced my Sister to switch to T-Mobile because she wanted an iPhone and I recommended she not Jail Break it. But she wanted Tether (I was rooting Androids on Sprint for her). She is very happy with T-Mobile. And she generally stays in Eastern MA.
We'll see what HTC does this next time around. But they really need to step up their game. The reception issue really isn't an "HTC" issue. It's a Qualcomm/Sprint issue in my opinion. It's a kludge and I think Sprint is the only one with this kludge.