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Hi Guys,
Maybe someone already explained this, but I have a Euro Stock HTC pro that I wish to use with ATT network. Everything works fine but 3G, it only enables the Edge.
Do I miss any cab or something?
Thanks much,
Julius
Also, I tested with Monx/RR Rom but both without luck.
I am flashing radio to see if this is the problem
The Euro version is missing the US 3G frequencies.
But on the box it is claiming it has Quadband and have the 850/1900 freq. How could I check if the phone has it?
The HTC Touch Pro EU has 3G bands of 900/1900 (correct me if i"m wrong)
AT&T uses 850/2100 for 3G.
i dont know what to tell you buddy
For HSPA, the Euro version uses 900/2100 MHz and Quad band EDGE/GSM for 850/900/1800/1900 MHz. This is why you're only getting the EDGE signal.
The US 3G version has HSPA 2100/1900/850 MHz. More specifically ATT runs on the 850/1900 for 3G, EDGE, and GPRS.
You should take/send back the phone and buy a Fuze.
Thanks for both of your answer. Well, too late. I bought it when I travelled there. Anyways thanks!
Hey guys, I just got my new HTC hero. I'm with AT&T now and having the unlimited 3G data plan. I setup the configurations of APN settings as following:
Access point: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
But I only see an "E" at the connection status which I believe indicates EDGE. Can anyone tell me how to get 3G work on this device?
Thanks a lot!!!
I didn't realise the hero was out in the us yet but if it is i don't know why and if it isn't out its because i don't think it surpports american 3g networks i think you can only get 2g.
Yes I got this phone out of the US.
So you mean there's no way at all to get 3G to work on this phone with AT&T or any other carriers?
In its current state the phone does not support the AT&T bands for 3g.
There are rumors of an AT&T version coming October 11th, that would support 3g.
European/Asian version of this phone does not work with US 3G. AT&T's 3G network requires the bands 850 & 1900, while T-mobile's 3G requires the bands 1700 & 2100. European/Asian version supports only the bands 900 & 2100.
Does this mean T-mobile 3G may work on this phone?
T-Mob's 3g should connect to this phone, if you could find a signal, haha.
http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2009/07/03/htc-hero-approved-by-the-fcc-with-att-3g/
Neither T-Mobile US nor AT&T will work with this phone for 3G. The only version of this phone that exists at the moment supports ONLY European 3G. There are rumors of the device coming to AT&T, but nothing confirmed. IF that happens, the new phones would work, but that wouldn't change the fact that the device you have will still only function on Edge.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's true.
It's actually Sprint pal. Also, there was a picture for Tmobile also (this appears to be a rumor).
T-Mob uses the 2100 spectrum so i dont see why it wouldnt work.
And a CDMA and a GSM (With AT&T 3g bands) has gone through the FCC recently.
RBFG said:
T-Mob uses the 2100 spectrum so i dont see why it wouldnt work.
And a CDMA and a GSM (With AT&T 3g bands) has gone through the FCC recently.
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No, it won't work with t-mobile USA's 3G network.
Yes, T-mobile in Europe use the 2100 band for 3G so the Hero works. But T-mobile USA use 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, and you need a phone that support BOTH bands to connect to its 3G network.
Unfortunately, unless T-mobile USA decides to carry this phone (and they have already said that they wouldn't), there won't be a version of Hero that support its 3G network. This is because T-mobile USA is the only carrier in the world that uses the 1700 band for 3G. You may ask why T-mobile uses different bands for 3G in different countries. This is more of a regulatory decision than a business decision. If you are interested, go read about those FCC spectrum auctions.
All in all, European/Asian version of the Hero won't work with any 3G network in the US. The product id of the European/Asian Hero is HERO100, it supports only the bands 900 and 2100 for 3G. There will be a North American version with product id HERO130 that supports the bands 850 and 1900. It will be released either on AT&T or on the Canadian carrier Rogers, because only these two carriers use these bands for 3G. Currently it is not know whether it will be on AT&T or Rogers, but that latter is more likely IMO. Finally, there will be a CDMA version, with product id HERO200, for Sprint. This is more or less confirmed to be coming in October.
T-mobile US 3G uses 1700 for down and 2100 mhz for uplink. So 2100 alone isn't enough as you need both directions to connect.
tsekh501 said:
No, it won't work with t-mobile USA's 3G network.
Yes, T-mobile in Europe use the 2100 band for 3G so the Hero works. But T-mobile USA use 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, and you need a phone that support BOTH bands to connect to its 3G network.
Unfortunately, unless T-mobile USA decides to carry this phone (and they have already said that they wouldn't), there won't be a version of Hero that support its 3G network. This is because T-mobile USA is the only carrier in the world that uses the 1700 band for 3G. You may ask why T-mobile uses different bands for 3G in different countries. This is more of a regulatory decision than a business decision. If you are interested, go read about those FCC spectrum auctions.
All in all, European/Asian version of the Hero won't work with any 3G network in the US. The product id of the European/Asian Hero is HERO100, it supports only the bands 900 and 2100 for 3G. There will be a North American version with product id HERO130 that supports the bands 850 and 1900. It will be released either on AT&T or on the Canadian carrier Rogers, because only these two carriers use these bands for 3G. Currently it is not know whether it will be on AT&T or Rogers, but that latter is more likely IMO. Finally, there will be a CDMA version, with product id HERO200, for Sprint. This is more or less confirmed to be coming in October.
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Thanks! That was very informative, although it totally crushed my dreams of owning a Hero while remaining on the T-Mobile network.
As I’m sure most of us already know Bell and Telus (formerly CDMA-only carriers in Canada) have launched a new HSPA network. Both the iPhone 3G and the iPhone 3GS now work on the new network.
I understand that HSPA is a GSM based technology. Bell is now issuing SIM cards with new activations. I was wondering if anyone would know if the HTC StarTrek (specifically the Cingular 3125) can be made to work with this network. I am willing to do firmware updates obviously.
Best regards,
The Fish
If you mean 3G/3.5G then yes and then again no. If its like the networks in the UK then the StarTrek will work on the GSM portion of the Bell network, but as I dont think it has a 3G chipset it will not be able to access 3G/3.5G services.
I may of course be wrong but that is my understanding of the situation.
I know telus used to be strictly cdma, however i know as of 2010 they have made some upgrades.
Does anyone know if unlocked phones such as this one:
(add http) cgi.ebay.com/MOTOROLA-DROID-MILESTONE-2-ANDROID-SMARTPHONE-UNLOCKED-/140483114173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item20b57234bd
would fully funcionall work on telus?
Just by looking at the supported bands it won't work on Telus or Bell. It will only work on Rogers but at EDGE speeds. The current supported bands by Telus and Bell are 3G only which are 850/1900 frequency. The only other provider in Canada which has a different one is Wind which is on the AWS 1700 frequency so T-Mobile 3G phones should work.
Telus and Bell Canada are not GSM because that refers to 2G which is a legacy network they do not have. They are 3G which all the 2G providers such as AT&T have upgraded to. Their CDMA network is still there running in parallel for now.
They use the exact same 3G system and frequencies as AT&T. So any AT&T 3G phone will also work on Bell or Telus. They do not have the legacy network so 2G phones will not work. Only 3G phones.
To put it another more technical way:
They support 3G UMTS/HSPA 850MHz and/or 1900MHz
They do NOT support 2G GSM/EDGE on any frequency
hey there people,
I've had my HTC HD2 T8585 for almost a year now and have been on the Rogers Canada network ever since.
Recently, Bell Mobility setup some new towers in my location with HSPA+
Since I was stuck and Rogers (until now they only had GSM in my area) and wanted to switch to Bell which I now did.... my phone does not pick up the new network.
I know that my phone has the hardware and software to support the new network.... right?
I'm out of ideas and am open to new ones.... anyone?
Yes sir, your device is equipped to work on a HSDPA network.
just a question, witch radio/ROM version do you have?
Hi,
Your phone will not work at all on bell, not even in 2g mode. It will not work with Telus either. The reason for this is your radio bands. The t8585 supports the following: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100 but not UMTS850 or UMTS 1900 which is required for Bell and Telus. UMTS is another word for HSPA. The GSM is the older technology network used by Rogers and Fido. Bell and Telus used cdma for their older network and your phone does not work on cdma network.
On Rogers, you used the older gsm frequencies (GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, ) to get voice and possibly data (2g speed). The rogers HSPA frequency is the same as Telus and Bell so you can't get HSPA speeds on Rogers or Fido either. I am not sure about Wind but Videotron requires both 1700 and 2100 frequencies so no luck there either. FYI Fido supports the same frequencies as Rogers.
This is a hardware issue with your antenna and you cannot fix this by installing software, another radio or a rom.
The only model of hd2 to get high speed in Canada is the t9193. Always look at the supported frequencies prior to buying phones as not all will work in Canada.
IMO you either go back to Rogers or Fido or change phones.
The t9193 is sold by Telstra in Australia. That is where I got mine.
If you are looking at an hd7 (similar to hd2 but with wp7) it will only work on videotron or Wind.
Good luck
darrengladysz said:
Hi,
Your phone will not work at all on bell, not even in 2g mode. It will not work with Telus either. The reason for this is your radio bands. The t8585 supports the following: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100 but not UMTS850 or UMTS 1900 which is required for Bell and Telus. UMTS is another word for HSPA. The GSM is the older technology network used by Rogers and Fido. Bell and Telus used cdma for their older network and your phone does not work on cdma network.
On Rogers, you used the older gsm frequencies (GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, ) to get voice and possibly data (2g speed). The rogers HSPA frequency is the same as Telus and Bell so you can't get HSPA speeds on Rogers or Fido either. I am not sure about Wind but Videotron requires both 1700 and 2100 frequencies so no luck there either. FYI Fido supports the same frequencies as Rogers.
This is a hardware issue with your antenna and you cannot fix this by installing software, another radio or a rom.
The only model of hd2 to get high speed in Canada is the t9193. Always look at the supported frequencies prior to buying phones as not all will work in Canada.
IMO you either go back to Rogers or Fido or change phones.
The t9193 is sold by Telstra in Australia. That is where I got mine.
If you are looking at an hd7 (similar to hd2 but with wp7) it will only work on videotron or Wind.
Good luck
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Thanks darrengladysz.
I bought my phone in April 2010 when I was on vacation in India. hummm it had the best specs and even does till today as compared to other phones on the market...
well you said it.. my best bet is to switch back to Rogers or get another phone (no money for that)
Thanks neways....
kurt-willems said:
Yes sir, your device is equipped to work on a HSDPA network.
just a question, witch radio/ROM version do you have?
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hey kurt-willems,
ROM version: 1.66.707.1 (76641) WWE
ROM date: 01/12/10
Radio version: 2.07.51.22_2
I bought this phone in April 2010 when i was on vacation in India.