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Hi,
I am new to Android and the Gtab. I am basically curious as to what the best way is to backup my Gtab. What software and the steps to take (what is the difference between cwm and nvflash?).
I actually like the stock rom but my biggest frustration is the lack of the market which I would like to have. Having that said, I would like to run something different on the Gtab which will support the market app and not the Gmarket app. I looked around the forums and I see lots of good tutorials but it confuses me on how I backup with my stock rom before I begin any of the tutorials to upgrade to a new rom. I feel like backing up is the biggest step and don't want to mess this up so that I can revert back if I do make a mistake down the road. I'm sure once you do this a couple of times it starts to make sense but I have not done it yet and want to make sure I understand everything before I move forward.
I am a beginner but want to be able to get more out of my Gtab. Please help.
It needs to be modded right out of the box, so how much could you have possibly gotten installed?
Ok, I'm kidding.
What are you trying to "backup"? If it's DOC's and Books, music, etc, either dump it all onto a secondary memory card, or dump your data to a PC using usb connection. As for settings like email, etc. I say skip the backup and just reinstall the stuff.
I keep all of the working installers I've found on my external SD card so if I need to wipe & start over, I just go through and click/install them again.
bnovak said:
It needs to be modded right out of the box, so how much could you have possibly gotten installed?
Ok, I'm kidding.
What are you trying to "backup"? If it's DOC's and Books, music, etc, either dump it all onto a secondary memory card, or dump your data to a PC using usb connection. As for settings like email, etc. I say skip the backup and just reinstall the stuff.
I keep all of the working installers I've found on my external SD card so if I need to wipe & start over, I just go through and click/install them again.
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Hi,
Thanks for the post. I think I may have not worded my question right. My fault since I am new. What I mean is what do I need to do to backup my current OS I suppose. For instance, it has android 2.2 correct? I upgraded OOTB to firmware 3588 which works well but no market. What do I need to do to back this OS up so that I can revert back to it in case of any problems? Sorry if I am still confusing you guys but like I said earlier, I am completely new and still learning the phraseology and such. Thanks!
jetguy35,
Most people get Titanium Backup and backup the apps and system with a batch file in that.
That takes care of apps.
If the whole tablet gets messed up you either NVFlash back to the bekit 1105 version
per the NVFlash recovery thread in developers, if its not too bad you reinstall the
current 3588 version from a download.
There are other ways some people suggest, but I don't recommend what I haven't used and don't know about.
Good Luck!!!
Rev
An app called Titanium Backup will allow you to back up your apps and their data.
To do a complete system backup, you'll need to get clockworkmod installed (bekit .8 version), once booted into clockworkmod there is a back up option which will back up all system files and apps.
Check this thread in the development section for installing clockworkmod:
[Sticky][Guide]Install ClockworkMod, A ROM, Flash Player, and the Market Fix
Insall clockwork mod .8 and boot to recovery and backup entire rom. ..then save a copy from internal to external sd card in case you need it.
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personally (and I was in your shoes last week)
I would just go through the TNT Lite post and flash that ROM onto the tablet. If you go TNT 4.4.0 you DO NOT WANT CLOCKWORK.
It's really simple - plug in USB, copy the correct files to the tablet, push and hold pwr-volume up and give it a couple minutes.
I think the vanilla ROM is floating around so if you don't have a bunch of personalized files, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Anytime you flash it, you are going to have to add some of the programs back in anyway.
Roebeets TnT build is super fast and super stable. You won't know what hit you when you turn it on the first time.
bnovak,
That's a good idea, but not everyone is ready, or has the expertise or even wants
to move up to a ROM.
I have two tablets and one is running the experimental next generation TwoTabX ROM
that is on hold waiting for VS to do something -- and the other most of the time is
pure stock (so I can test stuff and get OTA updates etc.
When I go to work, doesn't matter which I take because both work well.
Stock is not bad!!! You should have seen the original software!!!
Rev
I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for moving apps to my sd card. I'm currently rooted but on the stock 2.1. Have done some searching but haven't had much luck. I'm a newbie and haven't jumped in to the rom realm yet. Guess, I don't want to run the risk of screwing anything up. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
mattamous said:
I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for moving apps to my sd card. I'm currently rooted but on the stock 2.1. Have done some searching but haven't had much luck. I'm a newbie and haven't jumped in to the rom realm yet. Guess, I don't want to run the risk of screwing anything up. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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It would probably be easiest to flash [ROM][GPL][3/15/2011] xtrSENSE5.0.1 [cache2cache,apps2sd,oc,jit]-HTC Sense. It is extremely close to stock but has all the advantages including having Apps2SD built in. You can read zach.xtr's instructions for using Apps2SD under AndroidOS 2.1 in that first post in a section that's titled "Apps2sd and Cache2sd:".
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It would probably be easiest to flash [ROM][GPL][3/15/2011] xtrSENSE5.0.1 [cache2cache,apps2sd,oc,jit]-HTC Sense. It is extremely close to stock but has all the advantages including having Apps2SD built in. You can read zach.xtr's instructions for using Apps2SD under AndroidOS 2.1 in that first post in a section that's titled "Apps2sd and Cache2sd:".
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Are you currently running this rom? If so, have you come across an problems with it yet?
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Are you currently running this rom? If so, have you come across an problems with it yet?
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The last version of this I used was v4.6.5, just less than a couple months ago. Before that I had run many versions of it and xtrROM. At the moment I'm using GSB v2.7.
I don't recall any problems with xtrSENSE at all, it's the ROM I recommend the most to people who ask for a recommendation.
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The last version of this I used was v4.6.5, just less than a couple months ago. Before that I had run many versions of it and xtrROM. At the moment I'm using GSB v2.7.
I don't recall any problems with xtrSENSE at all, it's the ROM I recommend the most to people who ask for a recommendation.
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I appreciate that. I'll continue to research it and take your recommendation into consideration. Just a little hesitant to roms still but if I want to better my eris, looks like I need to jump the gun a little.
xtrSENSE is a fantastic ROM and I also recommend it to anybody new to rooting, unless they are specific in wanting to get away from Sense at all costs, or needs something like Google Voice Search/Actions (which requires Froyo or better).
I have one issue with xtrSENSE, but it seems to be unique to me: after running the ROM for a while, the phone becomes erratic about reminders for items in my calendar. For example, if I have a meeting at 4:30 pm and have a reminder set to 15 minutes, after running these ROMs (xtrSENSE, xtrROM and stock, actually) for a while, they may or may not sound the reminder at 4:15 pm, as desired. Sometimes they do, often they don't - often, they will fire off at some random time hours later, and even rarely never remind me at all until I restart the phone, and then they all start pouring in.
This was the major reason why I finally rooted a few weeks after 2.1 finally came to the Eris last year.
I have never seen anybody else report this issue with xtrSENSE, though, so I continue to recommend it to others. It's great advantage is that if you have been running stock, it will look and feel just the same, except faster, with better battery life, without the lag that happens with stock as your text message and call log grows.
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xtrSENSE is a fantastic ROM and I also recommend it to anybody new to rooting, unless they are specific in wanting to get away from Sense at all costs, or needs something like Google Voice Search/Actions (which requires Froyo or better).
I have one issue with xtrSENSE, but it seems to be unique to me: after running the ROM for a while, the phone becomes erratic about reminders for items in my calendar. For example, if I have a meeting at 4:30 pm and have a reminder set to 15 minutes, after running these ROMs (xtrSENSE, xtrROM and stock, actually) for a while, they may or may not sound the reminder at 4:15 pm, as desired. Sometimes they do, often they don't - often, they will fire off at some random time hours later, and even rarely never remind me at all until I restart the phone, and then they all start pouring in.
This was the major reason why I finally rooted a few weeks after 2.1 finally came to the Eris last year.
I have never seen anybody else report this issue with xtrSENSE, though, so I continue to recommend it to others. It's great advantage is that if you have been running stock, it will look and feel just the same, except faster, with better battery life, without the lag that happens with stock as your text message and call log grows.
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That's because your Eris runs outside the normal space-time continuum.
So, after looking into both xtrROM and xtrSense, I'm not sure which would be the better idea. I don't have to have sense but both sound like they would be great roms. Also, should I stick with 2.1 or jump higher to 2.2 or even 2.3??
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So, after looking into both xtrROM and xtrSense, I'm not sure which would be the better idea. I don't have to have sense but both sound like they would be great roms. Also, should I stick with 2.1 or jump higher to 2.2 or even 2.3??
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It would probably be best if you just start flashing some of them to see for yourself. Keep in mind that without the Sense home, the phone will feel a little different, plus not be able to use the Sense widgets. Since you already have experience with Sense, flash xtrROM and see how you like it. Then I would personally just skip right over 2.2 and go to 2.3 since it's essentially fully developed now.
I'm personally using GSB (soon to flash v2.8) and Tazz's Gingerbread ROM get's rave reviews, too.
Try a few ROMs and find out what you like best.
What's the best back up app? Or, with Astro and a nandroid, would that be good enough?
mattamous said:
What's the best back up app? Or, with Astro and a nandroid, would that be good enough?
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As far as backing up your apps and/or their settings, I swore by My Backup Pro for quite a long time but since going to Gingerbread, I've taken advantage of Titanium Backup's ability to restore apps to where they were backed up from (not applicable to the stock ROM), which is handy for me because using Gingerbread's (or Froyo's) native Apps2SD, I have a total of 190 user and system apps.
I don't know if they've added any feature like that in My Backup. If they have, then it would have been very recently.
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What's the best back up app? Or, with Astro and a nandroid, would that be good enough?
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Personally, I use cyanogen as my rom and nandroid to backup the phone...you know in case the rom fubars the phone.
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I use titanium back up and copy my sdcard to my computer before doing a wipe also make a nandroid copy there as well.
I went with My Backup Pro and made a copy of my sd card to my laptop. I was trying this technique last night but it had an error at the end of the command prompt.
http://www.askstudent.com/how-to/resolve-phone-storage-space-is-getting-low-on-android-phones/
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I went with My Backup Pro and made a copy of my sd card to my laptop. I was trying this technique last night but it had an error at the end of the command prompt.
http://www.askstudent.com/how-to/resolve-phone-storage-space-is-getting-low-on-android-phones/
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I see this at that link:
However, Google listened and with Froyo or Android 2.2 release, they included the App2SD functionality.
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You said you're on rooted stock, and those instructions are for 2.2+ ROMs only so it won't help you unless you since flashed another ROM. Have you? If so, which one?
Also, those instructions are purely to help move apps which normally wouldn't allow you to move them, which as I might've said Titanium Backup (paid version) will allow you to do by the Batch, and the free "Install Manager" may allow you to do so in batch, too, I've just read.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I see this at that link:
You said you're on rooted stock, and those instructions are for 2.2+ ROMs only so it won't help you unless you since flashed another ROM. Have you? If so, which one?
Also, those instructions are purely to help move apps which normally wouldn't allow you to move them, which as I might've said Titanium Backup (paid version) will allow you to do by the Batch, and the free "Install Manager" may allow you to do so in batch, too, I've just read.
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Somehow, I must have missed that. I haven't flashed anything just yet; I was hoping that would do the trick before I went to flashing a rom. I downloaded the free version of titanium last night but it wouldn't backup, saying that I didn't have busybox. I downloaded busybox afterwards but it had a few warnings right at the beginning that I wasn't sure about so that's why I went with backup pro. I just checked into install manager but it isn't in the market.
With the help you have already given, is there a set of instructions for the nandroid backup process? I'm kinda interested in xtrROM but want to get all my ducks in a row before I flash it. Thanks for the help! Appreciate it!
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Somehow, I must have missed that. I haven't flashed anything just yet; I was hoping that would do the trick before I went to flashing a rom. I downloaded the free version of titanium last night but it wouldn't backup, saying that I didn't have busybox. I downloaded busybox afterwards but it had a few warnings right at the beginning that I wasn't sure about so that's why I went with backup pro. I just checked into install manager but it isn't in the market.
With the help you have already given, is there a set of instructions for the nandroid backup process? I'm kinda interested in xtrROM but want to get all my ducks in a row before I flash it. Thanks for the help! Appreciate it!
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BusyBox is included with any custom ROM, another reason it's just easier to flash a ROM like xtrSENSE or xtrROM as you mentioned, although with Apps2SD under Android 2.1, you need to backup the entire contents of your SD card, repartition it to include an Ext2 partition and 0 (zero) Swap, and the rest FAT32 as normal. All can be done from Recovery.
What method did you use to root? I'm assuming that whatever method you used installed a custom recovery. To make sure you do have a custom recovery, turn the phone off, press and HOLD the volume up button and press the End button long enough to turn the phone on. Keep holding the volume up button for a few seconds longer. When it goes into recovery if you have Amon RA recovery it should say something like amon-ra-eris-1.6.2 at the bottom.
In Amon RA recovery, reference http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648025 there are these menu options:
Use the trackball (up+down) to navigate through the menu, press the trackball to select items. Use the Volume-down key to go back to a previous menu.
Reboot system now :: reboot your phone
USB-MS Toggle :: enable/disable USB mass storage (use when the phone is connected to your PC)
Backup/Restore
Nand backup :: Make a Nand backup, the following partitions are NOT included :
Recovery (to avoid restoring old version)
Cache (no need to backup imo)
Misc (no need to backup imo + restore issues on some phones)
Splash1+2 (no need to backup imo + restore issues on some phones)
Nand + ext backup :: Make a Nand + ext backup
Nand restore :: Restore a Nand backup
BART backup :: Make a BART backup (Nand + ext)
BART restore :: Restore latest BART backup
Flash zip from sdcard :: Flash a zip update file from your sdcard
Wipe
Wipe data/factory reset :: Wipe /data and /cache
Wipe Dalvik-cache :: Wipe Dalvik-cache both on /data and ext
Wipe SD:ext partition : Wipe the ext partition on your sdcard
Wipe battery stats : Wipe the battery stats in /data
Wipe rotate settings : Wipe the sensor settings in /data
Partition sdcard
Partition SD :: Interactive SD partitioning
Repair SD:ext :: Repair the ext partition
SD:ext2 to ext3 :: Convert ext2 to ext3
SD:ext3 to ext4 :: Convert ext3 to ext4
Other
Fix apk uid mismatches :: Does extacly that
Move apps+dalv to SD :: Moves all apps and Dalvik-cache to sdcard (This will NOT enable apps2sd!)
Move recovery.log to SD :: Moves the recovery log file to your sdcard. (Use when you want more detailed recovery log information)
Power off :: Powers off your phone
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To make a nandroid, just choose the "Backup/Restore" menu with your trackball, then choose "Nand backup".
The Market search is quirky. Here's a link to Install Manager on the market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.beidl.chooseloc.
Install Manager or anything else having to do with Apps2SD won't do you any good without either flashing the Apps2SD script from recovery, or flashing a custom ROM that includes Apps2SD.
You can find the most important information via links from the Eris Roll-up Thread.
Thank you very much! A huge help! I used the 1 click Eris root.
Flashed xtrROM based on your recommendation and so far its pretty rad. Really smooth and quick too.
im looking for some info working with a droid eris used 1click method to root ive got the 2.2 froshedyo 11 rom the kernel is 2.6.29 DECAFUCTCFS-dirty the person im doing this for really wants the HTC widgets back so im looking and getting a good feel about the xtrsense5.0.1 rom but the only thing im not sure of is wiping sd ext partition is that something i need to do or is that only if im planning on using the app2sd im alil lost about that part and the whole partition process id ask there but not enough posting yet to do so the recovery is the RA-eris-v1.6.2 so there i should b good to go thanks for any and all info out there
Ive been spending way to much time researching my problem and my wife is really mad at me. Basically at this point i would be happy to just manually extract data for about 10 apps from a nandroid that wont restore. Can someone point me in the right direction please?
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Ok, now that I am at computer, heres my story. Prior to flashing the gingerbread leak, I backed up using Titanium Backup and made a Nandroid backup. Somehow, all the files backed up in my PREVIOUS 2 backups on titanium backup where all 0kb-10kb, so they were completely borked for some reason. Some old backups of apps that I have since uninstalled still remained and those seem ok.
Prior to reading about the SD card failures with the gingerbread leak, I backed up my SD card to my computer. Only 1 error came up during the backup about a file with a name that was too long. I clicked on ignore and finished the backup. About 1 hour later my SD card fried.
I used a spare sd card, and transfered my clockwork mod folder and a few other folders to it. I then ODIN a DL09 stock image, flashed the newest Clockword mod 3.xx via odin, flashed UKB 2.0, then flashed PBJ -50 recovery/kernel (which was what I had when I made the backup) and tried to restore it. When I try to restore it hangs somewhere in the data restore portion saying CACHE. I saw it flash cache a few times during the restore, so I am not sure why it hangs on that one in particular. I know that the cache image file is only 16.5kb so I dont know if that has something to do with it.
I then installed the newest IMNUTS recovery since I heard there were problems restoring the the PBJ recovery, and it seems to hang in the same spot.
At this point, I have a few of my old programs back, but most force close.
My main goal here is to just extract some gamesave progress and a few other pieces of data (I can redownload basically all the apps I need), run clean until a better gingerbread leak comes along, then use titanium backup to backup what I have (and verify the backups and make backups of the backups )and install a better gingerbread rom.
So anyway, If i can figure out how to go into the datadata.img files, I guess I can extract the data I need and push it through ADB or ROOT EXPLORER? Should that work?
- nevermind...
There are computer applications that can read and explore image files, or .img files, and the file systems within image files. Your best bet would be software like that, that could open, edit, and explore image files. I dont know the names of any software like that, even though I have come across some before, but im sure you could turn up some results with the query "image file editor," or ".img file editor." From there you're just have to feel your way through.. Try similar queries if those don't turn up what you need, etc. If you got an app that could explore image files, then you could get your .apk files from /data/app folder, and any other data you might need from /data/data, if its just user apps you're wanting to restore.
Sent by way of unspeakably black magic.
ssmaster said:
Ive been spending way to much time researching my problem and my wife is really mad at me. Basically at this point i would be happy to just manually extract data for about 10 apps from a nandroid that wont restore. Can someone point me in the right direction please?
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Ok, now that I am at computer, heres my story. Prior to flashing the gingerbread leak, I backed up using Titanium Backup and made a Nandroid backup. Somehow, all the files backed up in my PREVIOUS 2 backups on titanium backup where all 0kb-10kb, so they were completely borked for some reason. Some old backups of apps that I have since uninstalled still remained and those seem ok.
Prior to reading about the SD card failures with the gingerbread leak, I backed up my SD card to my computer. Only 1 error came up during the backup about a file with a name that was too long. I clicked on ignore and finished the backup. About 1 hour later my SD card fried.
I used a spare sd card, and transfered my clockwork mod folder and a few other folders to it. I then ODIN a DL09 stock image, flashed the newest Clockword mod 3.xx via odin, flashed UKB 2.0, then flashed PBJ -50 recovery/kernel (which was what I had when I made the backup) and tried to restore it. When I try to restore it hangs somewhere in the data restore portion saying CACHE. I saw it flash cache a few times during the restore, so I am not sure why it hangs on that one in particular. I know that the cache image file is only 16.5kb so I dont know if that has something to do with it.
I then installed the newest IMNUTS recovery since I heard there were problems restoring the the PBJ recovery, and it seems to hang in the same spot.
At this point, I have a few of my old programs back, but most force close.
My main goal here is to just extract some gamesave progress and a few other pieces of data (I can redownload basically all the apps I need), run clean until a better gingerbread leak comes along, then use titanium backup to backup what I have (and verify the backups and make backups of the backups )and install a better gingerbread rom.
So anyway, If i can figure out how to go into the datadata.img files, I guess I can extract the data I need and push it through ADB or ROOT EXPLORER? Should that work?
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unfortunately, you won't likely receive much sympathy posting a question in the development section. Please post your question in the Q & A section and you'll get some help. Just a friendly heads up.
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Well I'll go ahead and point you to the right direction, or what I'd imagine should work for your needs. You'll need unyaffs, I'm assuming you're on windows so this here would be the right one for you http://www.box.net/shared/1eighqsh4s. Now take the data.img from your clockwork backup on your sdcard, drag and drop it onto the unyaffs.exe, it should unpack right there into a crapload of files. Navigate to the /data folder and find the ones you want to keep (they should be listed by the package name for the apps, "com.blah.asfkje.etc" rather than the name of the app so keep that in mind when looking for what you want), then adb push (root explorer would be fine too) the folders into your phone where they should be.
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unfortunately, you won't likely receive much sympathy posting a question in the development section. Please post your question in the Q & A section and you'll get some help. Just a friendly heads up.
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Sorry I posted this in the wrong forum, I was waiting for the train when I posted and wasn't thinking too straight. How can I move it?
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Sorry I posted this in the wrong forum, I was waiting for the train when I posted and wasn't thinking too straight. How can I move it?
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The mods will move it once they notice.
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
Just curious because of my personal interest...
Did you happen to try the nandroid Advanced Restore option, and select Data only? If not, it might be worth a shot. If it gets far enough, you might try wiping after the restore, and before booting up.
I always wipe my cache/Dalvik before I backup, to try to avoid conflicts with possible future ROMs. Something to think about, anyway.
Sorry about the trouble.
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Sorry I posted this in the wrong forum, I was waiting for the train when I posted and wasn't thinking too straight. How can I move it?
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Report your post stating that it should be moved, and the mods will notice right away.
Robtao said:
Just curious because of my personal interest...
Did you happen to try the nandroid Advanced Restore option, and select Data only? If not, it might be worth a shot. If it gets far enough, you might try wiping after the restore, and before booting up.
I always wipe my cache/Dalvik before I backup, to try to avoid conflicts with possible future ROMs. Something to think about, anyway.
Sorry about the trouble.
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i did try the nandroid advanced data only option and it hung at what seemed to be the exact same point.
To put it simply when I boot up my vibrant, it switches to the galaxy s GT-19000 screen then fully boots into what seems like a completely different phone. My contacts were still there until I factory reset, but none of my apps or anything. I also believe that my calls and messaging do not work. I just recently rooted my phone but where things went bad is when I tried installing voodoo lagfix. I tried adding the link where I got the dl for voodoo lagfix but because I am a new user I can not add links, but i got it from the project voodoo website and it was the second link in their dl section, the one for froyo installable with clockworkmod recovery and rom manager. When I try and go into recovery mode ClockwordMod Recovery v2.5.1.3 - Voodoo lagfix is what comes up and is completely different from what the recovery was before. I just want to get rid of voodoo and get my phone back to how it was before. Im sorry for the terrible description, if there is anything else I need to add just let me know, but please, what can I do to fix my phone? any help would be greatly appreciated.
Can you get into download mode?
If so, ODIN to stock JFD.
you may need to use Vol Up + Power, unlike the normal way which is both volume buttons pressed in.
thank you! I used your guide in your sig, which was very helpful, phone is back to normal, however, all of my apps and what not are gone. I am an idiot and forgot to backup before I made changes, is there any other way that I can get back to the way my phone was before? And after going back to the stock JFD using odin, will I still have voodoo on my phone?
If you used titanium backup, your folder of backups should still be on your internal.
If you did not backup, sorry... hope you have them backed up.
No, you do not have voodoo now.
I did back up all of my app with titanium back up, so do I just have to re-dl titanium back up in the market and then just go from there?
^ Ti Backup needs root, so grab the update.zip from my guide and root (incredibly easy), move it to internal, go to stock recovery, install, reboot, you are rooted.
At this point, before you restore, you need to update to a more recent version of Android. you do NOT want to be stuck on JFD (2.1). I'd suggest a ROM like Trigger... crazy stable, faster and themed (I like it).
THEN you can restore your apps after downloading titanium backup (assuming you have them backed up on your internal already).
also, when I connect to my pc and look at my internal sd, the voodoo folder is still there
sorry Im a complete noob to this stuff
Sounds like somebodies got a lot of apps to download againlol. Now you'll remember to get TB and make a backup, heheh, but oh well its a learning experience really! If you have any apps that you paid forl at least gmail will remember that and you will see them as purchased, but unfortunately you'll still have to search for them individually.
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also, when I connect to my pc and look at my internal sd, the voodoo folder is still there
sorry Im a complete noob to this stuff
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whats in it?
- prob just a bunch of logz(lol) just ignore it
^^ the voodoo folder is there b/c you did not format your card *no reason to*
when/if you flash trigger, it will convert you to EXT4 file system (voodoo). This IS okay and not a big deal. Not sure what site you went to, but I have 190% faith in the Trigger ROM and voodoo.. both have very talented people supporting it.
^ Paid apps do not need to be searched for. Look in My Apps, they are all there. He also apparently DID make a backup at some point so lets not go bashing the guy.
I do agree to backup often.
I don't think theyre on my internal anymore, I did a clear cache, factory reset when my phone was initially messed up and I think thats where my problem lies. and as for the rom, what are your thoughts on the TW bionix rom? I initially was trying to root and install this rom
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whats in it?
- prob just a bunch of logz(lol) just ignore it
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It is a bunch of logs, can I just delete this altogether?
Your call man. I made my suggestion for speed/stability/appearance. Don't delete the voodoo folder, even if you did, it will be there after you flash your rom.
- - No intent to flame just my bad humor, sorry.
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It is a bunch of logs, can I just delete this altogether?
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You can do whatever you want with it if ur just gonna ODIN and re-flash. I just thought this was funny my bad. I wouldn't be too concerned with it really. Just leave it alone.
- If in fact you made a backup with TB and moved it to ur PC you could replace that back into the /sdcard/ and when you re-download TB just run the restore batch. BOOM! good to go. If not then oh well.
- The "myapps" will show you all your purchased ROMs so you will not need to research for them, just need to re-download them but any "free" apps will need to be researched and redownloaded.
- My friend has a Nexus S and she says that when she does an initial setup after flashing any ROM the gmail sync automatically downloads all her purchased apps. Thats what I was refering to cuz that would be friggin titz!
- Team Whiskey ROMs are proven and stable Bionix is a great choice to flash.
Good luck!
^ GB restores automatically, while good for some.. I hate it. Takes longer to download/install than restoring AND it doesn't restore the data (boo)
Flashed My wife and I's OG's with CM 10.2. She was coming from stock 4.0.1 I was coming from 4.1.2
My has no problems. Hers wouldnt connect to wifi even though it could pick up the signals.
Last night her Kernel crashed. I figured maybe I didnt fully wipe her files clean so I rebooted her into recovery and did a factory wipe,
cleaning Dalvik, etc. and reinstalled.
Still no wifi connectivity.
Is this a driver, antennae, modem issue? Please help, I've run out of ideas.
Did you flash the correct radio?
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Hmmmmm
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Did you flash the correct radio?
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I just used the one that came with CM.
Do you think since she was coming from 4.01 and I from 4.1.2 that I had the correct radio already that's why I have no issues?
And she still is running the 4.01 radio which is incompatible with android 4.3 which is what CM is running?
brionbey said:
I just used the one that came with CM.
Do you think since she was coming from 4.01 and I from 4.2 that I had the correct radio already that's why I have no issues?
And she still is running the 4.01 radio which is incompatible with android 4.3 which is what CM is running?
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Roms for the OG don't contain modems, your wife's phone would still have ICS modem. If you had the ota to 4.1 on your phone it will have jb modem.
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I just used the one that came with CM.
Do you think since she was coming from 4.01 and I from 4.2 that I had the correct radio already that's why I have no issues?
And she still is running the 4.01 radio which is incompatible with android 4.3 which is what CM is running?
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Yes, given that you avoided bricking your phone not having the rpm/tz partitions from the ota update, she would also have the ics modem, which hopefully is the only thing wrong, and is an easy fix.
matter of fact I'm not aware of anyone trying the ics modem on 4.3, or using 4.3 without the updated partitions
Still, (as a purely personal preference) I would restore the backup from before you flashed her to CM 10.2, then call up AT&T and make them push the OTA update, then backup again and reflash CWM.
-edit- this is of course, if you are on AT&T
also, you can probably make a nandroid of CM 10.2, restore to stock, get the OTA, and restore CM 10.2 and you wouldn't lose anything, since it only restores kernel,system,data,cache, etc it would be unaffected by the OTA.
technically this remains true for the LGNPST/teenybin route, but i haven't used lgnpst, i prefer forcing at&t to provide the OTA update since if it bricks then, they owe you a phone
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Yes, given that you avoided bricking your phone not having the rpm/tz partitions from the ota update, she would also have the ics modem, which hopefully is the only thing wrong, and is an easy fix.
matter of fact I'm not aware of anyone trying the ics modem on 4.3, or using 4.3 without the updated partitions
Still, (as a purely personal preference) I would restore the backup from before you flashed her to CM 10.2, then call up AT&T and make them push the OTA update, then backup again and reflash CWM.
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also, you can probably make a nandroid of CM 10.2, restore to stock, get the OTA, and restore CM 10.2 and you wouldn't lose anything, since it only restores kernel,system,data,cache, etc it would be unaffected by the OTA.
technically this remains true for the LGNPST/teenybin route, but i haven't used lgnpst, i prefer forcing at&t to provide the OTA update since if it bricks then, they owe you a phone
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Just like to pass on a little info I learned recently, both Shellnutt2's cm10.2 and dvhexer's "alternate" cm10.2 use an e975 kernel.and can be flashed to phones without updating partitions.
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Just like to pass on a little info I learned recently, both Shellnutt2's cm10.2 and dvhexer's "alternate" cm10.2 use an e975 kernel.and can be flashed to phones without updating partitions.
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Yeah I considered that, still terrifying to me though, but it would explain still having the ics modem.
How does this sound?
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Yeah I considered that, still terrifying to me though, but it would explain still having the ics modem.
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Ok, Just got back from work.
Today, Device crashed twice. Once a kernel error, once something about watchdog.
The kernel crash occurred when using the CM 10.4 camera. The same thing happened to my wifes device.
What I'd like to do it flash the Stock Rom Back with Stock modems to both phones.
Unfortunately, my backup didnt take because of lack of space or something, so I need to find the stock 4.1.2 rom.
I need action steps if possible.
I'm assuming I need:
4.1.2 Stock Rom for my device.w/ google apps
4.0.1 Stock for my wifes's./w google apps
I'm also assuming that I'd follow the same steps:
factory reset, flash the rom + apps reboot.
I'm using TWRP
If all that goes well I'd attempt to have at&t push the update to my wife's phone ( would I need to reset her bootloader?)
Then Reflash CM 10.2 with appropriate modems, and google apps.
Please catch any errors in this logic. Also Links to stock Rom's would be appreciated.
If anyone has any suggestions to a better custom rom then CM 10.2 I'm open to suggestions. I have not found it to be as stable as I would of liked...
FYI to make things worse, now my pc won't recognize that my device is attached.... trying not to panic.
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Ok, Just got back from work.
Today, Device crashed twice. Once a kernel error, once something about watchdog.
The kernel crash occurred when using the CM 10.4 camera. The same thing happened to my wifes device.
What I'd like to do it flash the Stock Rom Back with Stock modems to both phones.
Unfortunately, my backup didnt take because of lack of space or something, so I need to find the stock 4.1.2 rom.
I need action steps if possible.
I'm assuming I need:
4.1.2 Stock Rom for my device.w/ google apps
4.0.1 Stock for my wifes's./w google apps
I'm also assuming that I'd follow the same steps:
factory reset, flash the rom + apps reboot.
I'm using TWRP
If all that goes well I'd attempt to have at&t push the update to my wife's phone ( would I need to reset her bootloader?)
Then Reflash CM 10.2 with appropriate modems, and google apps.
Please catch any errors in this logic. Also Links to stock Rom's would be appreciated.
If anyone has any suggestions to a better custom rom then CM 10.2 I'm open to suggestions. I have not found it to be as stable as I would of liked...
FYI to make things worse, now my pc won't recognize that my device is attached.... trying not to panic.
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Don't panic, you can always load onto the SD card externally, with a microsd to SD adapter or through TWRP/CWM with "mount usb storage" mode. Failing both of those things I'm fairly certain one of your two phones will be enough to load the SD card for the other phone if needed.
I'm thinking everything you need is going to be the LGNPST route now anyway, and that being said you may as well just flash them both to stock 4.1.2 in that case. First things first, you definitely want to backup before anything gets out of hand, if twrp isn't getting it then pull with adb. Quick breakdown of that below.
The universal drivers straight off the LG site work just fine, but in my experience to get the adb part happy you need to click on your devices, and find your phone, whether it says LG/Nexus4/MTP, doesn't matter. Open it and click on the hardware tab, it should list 3 devices.
unknown (or adb if you're lucky)
Your phone
USB Composite Device
If the top isnt some variation with ADB in the name, double click it, then change settings, it may say drivers not loaded, so on the driver tab we're going to give it one.
Update driver, and it will ask how, the option on the bottom is "browse my comp for driver software" and after that the bottom option again is "let me pick from a list..." I think then it shows a split list, the device type should be ADB something, and if you installed the LG universal drivers then near the bottom you will have "LGE Mobile Sooner Single ADB Interface" windows will complain because it couldn't figure out that its the right driver, confirm you want to use it and it will then show "this device is working properly" go ahead and close all those windows and it will update on the first one with the three devices listed the next time you open it.
At this point you need the adb application itself, I usually just download the whole android SDK personally, but where you get it from doesn't matter. If you're booted in android, make sure adb has root access in developer settings, and debugging is enabled.
open a command promt, for the sake of easy navigate to the folder where you put adb, in windows, or in the SDK example, /android/sdk/platform-tools/ hold shift and right-click on an empty space and select "open command window here"
If android is running, type "adb root" without quotes
and adb will inform you its restarting, if in twrp you will already be root.
Type "adb devices" and as long as its not blank you should be good
again, for the sake of easy "adb backup -shared -all"
and let it do its thing, it should start creating a default file named "backup.ab" it's bound to take awhile as -shared should grab all the sd card contents just to be safe.
Disaster recovery aside, I would use a combination of Titanium backup root, and "backup your mobile" - especially add the second option in addition to titanium, thats one of the only free backup apps that can get MMS as well as SMS, and restore them.
Again, if you're having issue with the computer normally seeing the device, these are still good tools, save to external sd card, remove card and transfer manually to your computer.
ok.. now that all your stuff is *hopefully* now redundantly backed up, depending on the stock image you find, you can either push it via fastboot commands or flash with lgnpst. I know the images are in our forum, most likely in the lgnpst thread. just follow through that and read well ahead before performing each step, you'll be ok.
I believe fastboot can relock your bootloader in all off one command, i don't have the answer if its necessary or not to receive the OTA, but having skimmed the lgnpst thread in the past, I'm positive people have done the flash and then had the OTA pushed from AT&T so they could get up to 4.1.2 for the official JB and partitions. Like I said in the beginning, your call if you want to skip that and just lgnpst to 4.1.2 since you're there anyway. Also, keep an eye out for one of the recent restore to stock / RPM/TZ partition threads, I think shellnutt making a cwm/twrp flashable zip to do the same thing lgnpst teeny bin would without even needing lgnpst.
So, barring a complete hardware failure, dont be scared. Get your data for now, then on to the next step.
Best xda technical support post I have seen in a long time. Thanks, gimp.
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Best xda technical support post I have seen in a long time. Thanks, gimp.
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I agree also! feels great to have some help with this. attempting fixes I'll report back.
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I got stuck on the adb driver part. Through searching I found the backup I made for her. Can I restore her backup. Flash the jellybean rom to it, creating the neccessary. Partitions in the process, along with the correct radio, and then reflash Cm? My main concern is getting her wifi up. She's racked up 6gigs in 2 days herself! Were on the 4.gig shared plan. Or possibly just flash the radio...
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brionbey said:
I got stuck on the adb driver part. Through searching I found the backup I made for her. Can I restore her backup. Flash the jellybean rom to it, creating the neccessary. Partitions in the process, along with the correct radio, and then reflash Cm? My main concern is getting her wifi up. She's racked up 6gigs in 2 days herself! Were on the 4.gig shared plan. Or possibly just flash the radio...
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yes that sounds fine, in that case I would just make the apps and messages backups with titanium/backup your mobile
I'm not 100% if the lgnpst flash to JB wipes user data or not, but after that you can flash pretty much ANY rom for our device, then just download titanium/backup your mobile from the app store and point it to the directories on the sd card, and restore selectively.
For the most part you can move everything from /sdcard to /external_sd and move it back over when you're done, I think the JB radio (or modem, both terms apply) works very well for everything I've used (and yes they play a significant part in wifi and gps also), and I was a pretty hardcore flash-a-holic for a really good while, still haven't tried the hybrid modems and people rave about how well they work. Sounds like a good plan you got going, once you're up with the partitions and the JB modem from 4.1.2 you really should have no issues, and once you have that freedom, and she will as well to try out all manner of ROM's, you'll find you get really good at backup/restore out of necessity. Happy flashing.
If you need any specifics, aside from the step by steps of the other threads I'm glad to lend advice, just let me know
-edit- you can make multiple backups with each program by the way, titanium and backup your mobile.
Titanium free says only one backup per app, but in reality just hit the batch button on the top right, looks like a check mark, have it get all apps and system settings, then just move the whole folder you set for titanium off of the device for safe keeping. This way you can backup everything running right now, then if you want to restore the other one, you could even do it again, if you just wanted to cherry pick some stuff, then flash, etc. Titanium free wont let you make multiple copies of the same app, but it also WONT delete extras if you already have them, so if you dump a few titanium folders into eachother and merge them, you can then choose any of the backup files or data or both from each date.
The reason I use both programs is as I said earlier, backup your mobile handles SMS/MMS very efficiently, and occasionally I'll let it grab a few user apps, and system apps, because when it restores them, it restores for example, flash player from LG stock rom, as a user app, and it continues to work flawlessly. Titanium can't get over it being a system app, and sucks at restoring flash.
However, titanium is GREAT for also saving user data, not just the program itself. ie.. savegame states for any app you have that doesnt explicitly sync online, or the login data for facebook, or adfree with the most current hosts so you dont have to redownload or even type your logins, very convenient.
My personal order of operations before I flash a new rom, or even upgrade to a new version with a clean flash instead of a "dirty" is to fully backup all apps/system data with titanium, then hit ByM for contacts/sms/mms/bookmarks/user dictionary/apps
then a nandroid backup, since it is basically a perfect snapshot itself, just like turning the phone off, and back on.
after rom flash / gapps, I boot, setup google real quick, goto app store and cancel the 5 million downloads, except for titanium/ByM
after those download I roll my messages/user dictionary/contacts/ selective apps I know i'll use, and the same with a few from titanium.
This way I'm less bloated with crap I probably don't use everyday, and if i need it, its a few taps away. It's a very painless process and a lot of peace of mind having everything safe, and allows you to try alot of unstable crap knowing how easy you can always roll your CWM/TWRP backup over to the device like you never left.
Sorry, I'm a fan of ranting. Pics for adb driver steps explained in previous post, and the backup part, for reference if you ever need them.
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Ok, I'm keepin cool but it seems to be one thing after another
I made the backup before the original flash.
I see it in the folder. When I restored it, it is the same rom that I'm on CM 10.2
I'm not sure how that happened.
Thanks for the images, that really helped unstuck me.
Question: I've checked the threads looking for the stock [ROM] 4.1.2 and Gapps for E970 and can't find them anywhere.
At this point I just need a doOver. I have to get my wife her phone back, ASAP and if I brick by some chance, I'll never hear the end of it.
EVER.
Or how about just flashing the radio? Can I do that to at least get her Wifi?
Here is the flashable jellybean radio by g33k3r.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2220048
I recommend still updating her to the jellybean partition layout when you get a chance, but this should get you working WiFi at the very least.
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Flash the Radio
Thanks SnowLeopard.
So all I need to do is just boot into recovery using TWRP and Install the radio, or should I factor reset and install the radio at the same time as the rom?
Thanks Again Guys. (or gals)
Lgnpst doesn't touch the /data partition.
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the modem work great.
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At gimp, followed instructions exactly, computer recognize device, only thing left to do is run teeny bit, but getting error path not found
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