hello,
I have been looking for an implementation to stream my music collection so it doesn't take space on my phone, it needs to work over 3g or else it would be useless. i have looked but i have not found any app.
i'm trying to stream my music from a NAS so i can turn my computer off and still listen to music.
any suggestions, it doesn't have to be free apps.
I use subsonic. It works perfectly and has a nice interface.
ritalin said:
I use subsonic. It works perfectly and has a nice interface.
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I second this. Make the cache size much bigger too. All the music you play gets saved on your sd card (Until the cache size is reached, then it starts deleting the old stuff). That way you can play it in the stock music player for offline use.
I'll chime in for the triple play. I run the subsonic server portion on an Ubuntu machine in the basement and get seamless 3G streaming when I travel (most of my music is 320k). Running it without a dedicated comp, however, I do not think is possible.
Thanks i will try subsonic as soon as i can
Another vote for Subsonic. In addition to music, I've pointed my subsonic server at my audio books directory and can grab any of my library any time.
Add in MortPlayer Audio Books and configure it to look at Subsonic's audio book cache folders and you've got your audio book library on the go coupled with a great 'books player.
I just found and am using OrbLive client on my Vibrant with Orb Caster server running on a Mac on my Lan accessing the music from a shared disk on an XP machine. The Windows version of the server also works fine but my Mac is mostly idle and has better uptime. The Server is at orb.com and the client is available at the App stores.
The Server is free and the client is $10. Not cheap as apps go but works well on 3G with tolerable response time on selections. Does video, pictures and documents too. Simple to setup and easy to use with a no-nonsense user interface that serves my purposes (listen to my home library on my phone) quite well. Of course I will be suggesting a few improvements but who doesn't.
I'd mostly like to see an equalizer put in either at the server or client end.
BTW, OrbLive also works with the Winamp Remote server as well. Winamp Remote is a rebadged earlier release of Orb Caster.
I have no affiliation with Orb. They don't yet know who I am.
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I am about to purchase a NAS device to act as a home media server.
So far my short list includes:
Synology Disk Station DS210j
QNAP TS-210 Turbo NAS
Some of them support iTunes server and can stream music to an iPhone. Surely there is a way to do this on the Eris! Is there an iTunes client for Android 1.5 or perhaps a better way to do this?
Any help appreciated!
dont know anything about android, but my nas drive packed in and i got a new one from pc world. i thought it was a nas drive but wasnt it was a network media storage, my ameo couldnt pick it up at all because it wasnt a nas drive, pc seen it fine and could map. hope this is of some help. make sure its nas.
Not sure if your NAS device supports Upnp, but if it does like windowns 7 and can share media as Pictures Music and Videos, I found a program on the market that I could access the files on the computer over my network, the music would work but I couldn't get the videos to play. Search for UPNP on the market, I'll post the program later when the gf brings her phone around. There was a similar program on the Ipod touch, although it was able to play the video files, probably missing a codec in android.
The program was Andromote... if you have windows 7 set up sharing all the media on your nas you would be able to access it.
if a mod reads this, can you pull the restriction.. I don't post much but have used the site for quite a while. Thanks.
It's not exactly graceful, but I use MPD (Music Player Daemon), PMix (an Android client for MPD), and A Online Radio to stream my music collection to my Droid Eris (via Icecast). Unfortunately, the native Droid media player doesn't support the usual streaming protocols, but the above combo works. When I'm outside my home network, I use a web based client for MPD and have my Icecast port forwarded on my router. If the NAS device you pick up supports Linux, you should be able to install MPD and Icecast (both are available in most distros); the Market has both PMix and AOR for free.
The protocol iTunes uses for streaming audio is called DAAP, but I'm unaware of any DAAP clients on the Android platform yet. Searching google for "Android DAAP" led me to a site which offers a client application to control iTunes from Android, but not client. Again, if the NAS system runs Linux but doesn't provide a DAAP server, you can possibly install Firefly Media Server (formerly mt-daap) to mimic the fuctionality. However until there's a client, there is little point.
Only been playing with it for a little bit, but there's a new VLC compatible streaming client available on the Market called VLC Stream & Convert.
It allows you to run VLC on a client on your lan (be sure to add the Web control interface from VIEW/ADD INTERFACE) and connect to it. You can either remote control VLC from the phone....or..you can stream video to your phone from the client side app with a simple filesystem browser.
Though the realtime conversion and streaming isn't the best quality it's most definitely handy and orders of magnitude more seamless than dealing with DLNA.
Maybe everyone else isn't a hardcore media geek with terabytes of video spread about a home lan like me. But this addition to the market makes me happy!
Thought I'd share.
Scott
This looks really cool. Will definitely try this tomorrow after work!
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Only been playing with it for a little bit, but there's a new VLC compatible streaming client available on the Market called VLC Stream & Convert.
It allows you to run VLC on a client on your lan (be sure to add the Web control interface from VIEW/ADD INTERFACE) and connect to it. You can either remote control VLC from the phone....or..you can stream video to your phone from the client side app with a simple filesystem browser.
Though the realtime conversion and streaming isn't the best quality it's most definitely handy and orders of magnitude more seamless than dealing with DLNA.
Maybe everyone else isn't a hardcore media geek with terabytes of video spread about a home lan like me. But this addition to the market makes me happy!
Thought I'd share.
Scott
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You may have just solved a problem for me... I am having some issues though.
I have it installed and working. I find my VLC player through the app and can start videos no problem, but there is no audio.
What AAC encoder are you using on your system? Im running on Win7 and cant seem to get it working.
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You may have just solved a problem for me... I am having some issues though.
I have it installed and working. I find my VLC player through the app and can start videos no problem, but there is no audio.
What AAC encoder are you using on your system? Im running on Win7 and cant seem to get it working.
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On all the PC's on the home lan I now only ever install VLC, Media Player Classic Home Cinema, and FFDSHOW. VLC's built in AAC decoder generally handles things fine, but if it gets confused (in the case of some encodes with weird FOURCC headers) FFDSHOW usually picks up the slack externally.
I'll run through my collection (it's well over 3 terabytes now so it might take a bit) and see if I run across anything with AAC that this stumbles over. I'm running Win7 x64 on this laptop, so it'll be my guinea pig.
I have a good idea of a few known encodes I have with weird AAC audio header info, primarily because they also won't play natively correctly in the phone's built in video player or rock player. I'll let you know what I find out.
EDIT: Well that didn't take long. It seems that the same encodes with .AAC audio that give the built in player grief (as well as Rockplayer) also refuse to have their audio play correctly in this streaming app. Even more interesting, these all play natively within VLC on the desktop. However, VLC, FFDSHOW, and my universal backup plan when encountering weird stuff that won't play (KMPlayer) all use LIBFAAD for .AAC decoding. Upon further investigation it appears that some .AAC profiles (there are actually six baseline types of .AAC audio...go figure) aren't properly supported by Android's native .aac parser (found this info on DoubleTwists support forums).
Looks like this is a native flaw in Android itself at this point. Going to investigate further. Thank god that there are literally only a handful of encodes in my collection that have this problem or I'd be pulling my hair out.
Can someone show me how to use this to stream over 3G??
I opened ports on my router and got my WAN IP entered but it won't let me connect.
Did you enable the Web Interface in VLC on the client PC? It is not on by defaut.
Start VLC on a PC on your lan, go to the VIEW menu....ADD INTERFACE...WEB INTERFACE. With that selected the android client should automatically find the VLC instance running on your lan connected PC. This assumes no additional firewall is blocking the app on the PC.
I got it working pretty good using wifi inside my network, so I think VLC is setup properly.
What I'm trying to do is to stream through t-mobile 3G.
I did the port forwarding in my router, but couldn't get the app to connect my home PC via 3G.
I've been able to get it to connect via 3G here, though only HTTP audio streaming seems to work. RTSP video streaming seems to be broken via 3g, and again this appears to be an Android issue from what I'm reading.
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I got it working pretty good using wifi inside my network, so I think VLC is setup properly.
What I'm trying to do is to stream through t-mobile 3G.
I did the port forwarding in my router, but couldn't get the app to connect my home PC via 3G.
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I've been able to get it to connect via 3G here, though only HTTP audio streaming seems to work. RTSP video streaming seems to be broken via 3g, and again this appears to be an Android issue from what I'm reading.
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From the dev's site, found here
"Why does rtsp streaming not work over 3G?
Some operators don't allow rtsp on their network. Http streaming should work instead but for videos you can only stream the audio track."
If its true that t-mobile is blocking RTSP then that sucks. Im going to play with it tomorrow and see for myself.
If this doesnt work then Im back to square one. I really wanted to find a way to use the Twonky media server I already have setup and streaming. I have been streaming videos to friends and family for about half a year now. My Fios 30mb up 30mb down even allows me to stream 720p content over UPNP without so much as a hiccup.
First person that can manage to remove the wifi only option in AllShare gets access to my collection. . I have been trying to find it but im not really sure what im looking for in the code.
Thanks to a tweet from Kmob, I just found out about SubSonic.
Its an open source media server that runs on windows/linux/mac and creates a very clean web interface for accessing all your media you have stored on your home network.
I have a windows box that I use as my media storage server. I installed subsonic in about a minute, configured it in under 3 (including setting up the paths to my specific media folders, and opening a port on my router)
They have an android app, installed it on my new atrix... setup the app to point to my router's dyndns address with the specific port I setup and BAM, done.
you select the media item you want to play via the very clean app interface, then it opens in a browser window showing a flash player. Make the player full screen and you are set.
From start to finish, I was watching House in less than 7 minutes.
Links:
Subsonic Web Page
Subsonic Android App (on Android Market website)
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Why aren't you using DLNA ?
I smell a plug.
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Why aren't you using DLNA ?
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Correct me if im wrong, but isnt DLNA for getting media stored on your phone to display on your tv? This lets you play media stored on your pc on your phone... On wifi or even 3g
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I smell a plug.
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if by plug you mean trying to pass on information about a program that I found and thought was useful to me, then sure... I guess I'm plugging this
But if by "plug" you are insinuating that I am some how affiliated with the software or might profit from telling people about it, (here, I was going to say something about "plugging" and "your mom", but instead i'll assume you were just trying to be witty, and say...) you are mistaken.
And I plugged your mom
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nice reply and subsonic seems to be pretty amazing so far. Have not tried over 3g yet but if thats good then id say this is a good find.
I use Plex for all my streaming needs. Works well for $5!
windows and mac servers are avail
Does it have any authentication? If it does I might give it a try. I have been struggling to find a good streaming app with security. I have tried orb, plex and several others. Orb seemed to work ok as long as you dont have a large library. Plex didn't see alot of my files because they didn't meet its naming convention. Plex also had no easy way to set up security.
I miss Airvideo. It was and has been my only regret about leaving the Iphone.
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I am trying to use DLNA via a Windows 7 pc. Video shows up fantastic, but no audio, I hope I don't have to transcode the audio, some of them are AC3 and DTS.
Can Subsonic handle that?
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Does it have any authentication? If it does I might give it a try. I have been struggling to find a good streaming app with security. I have tried orb, plex and several others. Orb seemed to work ok as long as you dont have a large library. Plex didn't see alot of my files because they didn't meet its naming convention. Plex also had no easy way to set up security.
I miss Airvideo. It was and has been my only regret about leaving the Iphone.
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Yes, you can create multiple users, it even supports Ldap (windows domain user credentials)
I think it even supports ssl, but im not 100% sure on that.
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I am trying to use DLNA via a Windows 7 pc. Video shows up fantastic, but no audio, I hope I don't have to transcode the audio, some of them are AC3 and DTS.
Can Subsonic handle that?
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Subsonic handles transcoding flawlessly.
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if by plug you mean trying to pass on information about a program that I found and thought was useful to me, then sure... I guess I'm plugging this
But if by "plug" you are insinuating that I am some how affiliated with the software or might profit from telling people about it, (here, I was going to say something about "plugging" and "your mom", but instead i'll assume you were just trying to be witty, and say...) you are mistaken.
And I plugged your mom
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Apologies, I just briefly checked your other posts and came to the wrong conclusion. I've actually picked this up based on this thread and I'm enjoying it. I had the same issue with video but no audio, and it handles it great. Thanks for the heads up.
p.s. my mom would like to know when you're calling her back.
So I tried this and over all am happy with it.
I have been tweaking the settings to get things working well over 3g.
My friend on sprint 4G seems to have better results than me.
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Correct me if im wrong, but isnt DLNA for getting media stored on your phone to display on your tv? This lets you play media stored on your pc on your phone... On wifi or even 3g
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Actually, atrix can be acted as DLNA client which can play media stored in DLNA server. I use PS3 Media server on my mini mac to streaming avi files to my PS3 and Atrix. Only problem is I cannot watch some of avi files because of compatibility issue with codec - Atrix will say "not supported media type" sometimes.
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Actually, atrix can be acted as DLNA client which can play media stored in DLNA server. I use PS3 Media server on my mini mac to streaming avi files to my PS3 and Atrix. Only problem is I cannot watch some of avi files because of compatibility issue with codec - Atrix will say "not supported media type" sometimes.
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Correction noted, thank you.
Subsonic can install on a mac, and takes very little ram, so there probably wouldn't be much harm in running both (PS3 MS and subsonic) on your mac mini.
The real time transcoding SS does should eliminate any chance of codec compatibility issues.
I can vouch for SubSonic.. been using it for the past month, streams videos FLAWLESSLY. Way better then AirVideo for the iPhone, and a cinch to set up. In order to use the domain from another PC you have to donate, but it works for free streaming to the Android..... love this app so far.
Now if only Android can get the new version of iMobsters that was pulled from the appstore, and NHL 2K11, only then I can finally sell my iPhone 3GS.
Is this the same as Using the Open Source VLC Player to stream over http or rtsp? I'm using this now, and it works awesome...it converts and streams every file type VLC can play...with no buffering time over Wifi...and bearable buffering over 4G. But, here's the catch for me. You have to have VLC running all the time on PC side, with web interface enabled. So it it's not, I have to log in, remote control computer open VLC.
Is this way an application, or just a process running in the background on PC side? I'm sure I got some of the terminology confused a bit, as I'm not an expert...hopefully it's understandable though.
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Does anyone know of a good player that will access my readynas running firefly server. i want an app that will show album art and either scroll or iconify the albums so i can leave prime set up on a stand to use as a jukebox during parties.
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Not sure if this has everything you are looking for but to connect to my DLNA server for music I use BubbleUPnP. I like the look of the program and how you can choose which Library to read from, but you can also choose which Renderer to play to (or use local for either one).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp
Have you tried the native My Net app that's already on the Prime?
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Have you tried the native My Net app that's already on the Prime?
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Did u try MyNet? It crashes all the time it is basically unusable. BubblePnp is a lot better.
tried both, not sure if i am using bubble right.
what i am after is an app that will show my album art in a grid or coverflow kinda way like itunes. something like a touchscreen jukebox you get in pubs. i want it easy for other people to just choose music without ever seeing a tablet before.
this might not be possible and the app might not exist.
the stock google music ap is ok in grid form.
ideally i would like a itunes clone with dj function that accesses my readynas
Looks like a while back, a guy created a firefly media server plugin for Plex that looks promising:
http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/7588-testers-needed-do-you-use-firefly-media-server/
http://wiki.plexapp.com/index.php/Firefly_Media_Server_(mt-daapd)
Plex is pretty cool, btw, it allows remote as well as within-LAN access to your media. Stream your music wherever you have iternet, on all your platforms (laptop, Prime, Ipad, phone, etc.)
I know this isn't device specific but I can't easily find a good solution through google.
Bit of a background.
I use Media Center for my main TV and movie watching through a media PC and projector.
But for music I use itunes because my car stereo only supports apple stuff (apart from controlling my phone as a generic bluetooth device) so i moved my music to itunes.... Yep still not that happy about that.
So for music sync to my android devices I use isyncr which works well over wifi. Happy with the control it has. But its not good for my video that I watch in Media Center (or effectively media player I believe as they are the same family).
I have tried Media players sync but not overly impressed. It wants to convert all video and I can't seem to find how to stop it reducing the quality so much. I have created autoplaylists for my video which gets the later video files and the later recorded TV. So happy with the autoplaylist I think.......
Is there anything that will sync media playlists well? Even better if its over wifi.
I don't particularly like airsync (doubletwist) as its very limited for video. I paid for it but have barely used it. I can't seem to selectively choose what to sync. And it appears to only see itunes video which I don't use.
Any suggestions???
I hope for the following;
- Sync only the latest video and/or recordings in media center
- Limit the space videos will take up
- Preference over wifi but not essential
Thanks, Peter.
Well I've started using MediaMonkey which does syncing with reasonable autoplaylists, does it wirelessly if the latest beta is down downloaded, and can limit the space the play list takes up... Although to make more advanced play lists requires to purchase the pro version on my pc but I just grinned and bared it. Also ended up changing my music/itunes sync over to it on my tablet. Have left the phone as isyncr because it integrates little better with iTunes.
So overall happy now after a lot of searching. Doubletwist was just too basic for video. And Much better than using media player that's for sure. But it's still not perfect. The play count not working for media center being one area that's not perfect. But that's more media center I think.
plex will do it, but i believe the feature is still in beta and require a plexpass (paid) subscription.