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Hydros TrackMe
We all have gone through the moment of losing our phones and if you havent experienced it, consider yourself lucky, as it is a distressing moment and the worst part of it is if don't have a clue of where it is. Fortunately, next time you lose your phone, all you need to do is text your phone with a special command and magically your phone will text back to that number with information regarding it's area code, its gps coordinates and it's cell tower data which can be easily be uploaded to Hydros Sync Center and give you an exact pinpoint of where your phone is. So, the next time your neighbor or your colleague steals your phone (or accdentally "takes" it), you can find them and hold them accountable with the data in it. Speaking of data, in the emergency of you having seure data on the phone, the TrackMe app also completly wipes your phone so they won't be able to access the data. Other options for this neat app include locking down your phone and threatening them with cool messages (just so you can scare them into returning it). Either way, no matter how you use this lightweight app, you will be thanking the developer the next time you lose your phone and don't know where it is.
System Requirements
All windows mobile phones! With or Without a gps
Features
Remote GPS tracking
Remote Hard Reset
Remote Soft Reset
Remote message sending - to threaten the robber
Remote lockdown with special password
Completly hidden from taskmanager so user can't terminate it
message to all cookers!
Hey cookers out there! if you find this app interesting, I am giving you permission to put it on your rom (to make the world a secure place) and considering that it only takes up 63KB, this is perfect for any rom. Simply cook the cab with whatever kitchen you use and thats it. However, make sure you place it in startup so it is always running...even if you use the hard reset command from the remote access.
DOWNLOAD LINK: http://hydrosmobile.webatu.com/Default.html
hey guys. it's kinda my first time making an actual app for windows mobile which I have published so please let me know if I did an ok job. Also, please feel free to tell me how i can make it better. I am open to suggestions
Occasionally I leave my phone laying around or let other people play with it, but it's getting very tedious having to lock it all the time. Anyone up for creating a app that will let me lock certain portions/apps on the phone (ie. SMS, gallery, etc.) using the built in finger print scanner?
I will second this. I recall reading that Moto was going to release the APIs for the print scanner. That should make it considerably easier.
just a bump, I know all you great minds out there are capable of this and want this too =)
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+1 yes, yes, yes a needed app
Yes, yes, YES! I've been thinking about requesting something like this for a while now!
I emailed the developer of Widget Locker since he seems to be fiddling with the Finger Print Scanner on the Atrix to see if he's interested in making a separate app for this. I wouldn't mind paying something like $1 for it.
How can we get this thread more attention from developers on XDA?
Keep the thread bumped, add some other keywords such a biometric scanner, fingerprints, fingerprint scanner, etc. (I myself didn't find this when searching), post the same on other forums, that's all you can do really!
PiTT said:
I emailed the developer of Widget Locker since he seems to be fiddling with the Finger Print Scanner on the Atrix to see if he's interested in making a separate app for this.
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And here I am! (Sorry for taking some time to get back to this)
What I'm doing from WidgetLocker is piggy backing on the system security, so I don't interface with the fingerprint scanner directly. However I have looked into this as it could be interesting for WidgetLocker to be able to use in more ways, and potentially another separate app like discussed here.
I've seen the other thread about the password keeper and this one about an app-lock type thing. The issue with a password keeper is that the passwords should be stored encrypted, otherwise if someone stole your phone they'd just need to root if (if it's not already) and they'd be able to get all your password. But encrypting the passwords with a key that's stored somewhere is really just adding a few extra steps, they're not truly protected. Normally they'd be encrypted with your password, and only decryptable with you typing the password again. But I don't think this could be done for the fingerprint scanner due to what information is available (And how the fingerprint information is stored on disk). I could be wrong however.
As for the app-locker thing, there are also security issues here, but I think app-lockers are more used as a deterrent than as real security. To lock out your friend rather than a thief. But there's a fair amount of non-fingerprint related work to be done for this kind of app as well.
If I do end up doing anything with it I'll post back.
I said this in the development section when it was released lol. So....+1 and good idea!
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And here I am! (Sorry for taking some time to get back to this)
What I'm doing from WidgetLocker is piggy backing on the system security, so I don't interface with the fingerprint scanner directly. However I have looked into this as it could be interesting for WidgetLocker to be able to use in more ways, and potentially another separate app like discussed here.
I've seen the other thread about the password keeper and this one about an app-lock type thing. The issue with a password keeper is that the passwords should be stored encrypted, otherwise if someone stole your phone they'd just need to root if (if it's not already) and they'd be able to get all your password. But encrypting the passwords with a key that's stored somewhere is really just adding a few extra steps, they're not truly protected. Normally they'd be encrypted with your password, and only decryptable with you typing the password again. But I don't think this could be done for the fingerprint scanner due to what information is available (And how the fingerprint information is stored on disk). I could be wrong however.
As for the app-locker thing, there are also security issues here, but I think app-lockers are more used as a deterrent than as real security. To lock out your friend rather than a thief. But there's a fair amount of non-fingerprint related work to be done for this kind of app as well.
If I do end up doing anything with it I'll post back.
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my reasoning behind this type of app as you said isn't for REAL security from a thief, more of a deterrent from people around me....such as a nosy friend or girlfriend =)
"such as a nosy"
Well, of course cell phones have had a way to prevent that for what, 20+ years now? You leave it locked, except for "emergency and speed dial" or other restricted calling. No reason that someone has to borrow my cell phone (and deprive me of my phone!) while they're doing whatever with it.
I don't have any guilt about saying "Sure, you can make a call. But I need my phone with me."
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my reasoning behind this type of app as you said isn't for REAL security from a thief, more of a deterrent from people around me....such as a nosy friend or girlfriend =)
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Well, if you have a friend that would invade your privacy then they are not your friend. And if you have a girlfriend that doesn't trust you enough to respect your privacy then dump her. You can't have a relationship without trust.
There are already apps that let you lock particular applications. I hand my phone over to my 4-year-old all the time so she can play Fruit Ninja, so I keep my work email locked down. I guess it would be kind of cool if the app locking software took advantage of the Atrix's fingerprint scanner.
live4nyy said:
Well, if you have a friend that would invade your privacy then they are not your friend. And if you have a girlfriend that doesn't trust you enough to respect your privacy then dump her. You can't have a relationship without trust.
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lol, I second this... She's obviously insecure.
And why are we assuming that it's the girlfriend that's untrustworthy? PiTT (no offense, all due respect) is the one with dirty little secrets on his phone.
aquariumdrinker said:
And why are we assuming that it's the girlfriend that's untrustworthy? PiTT (no offense, all due respect) is the one with dirty little secrets on his phone.
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Thanks =)
you guys are missing the point, it was just an example. Now back to the topic at hand.
I would love to be able to lock my phone using the finger print swype. This can't be to hard, could it?
jange said:
I would love to be able to lock my phone using the finger print swype. This can't be to hard, could it?
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I don't understand what you are asking here. If you're going to be swiping your finger over the sensor to lock it, wouldn't it be just as simple to just press the button? If you have the sensor lock enabled, it will be locked with access only being granted to your finger swipe.
GEESH!
Clearly some people on this thread don't understand what's going on here. So let me break it down....
It's not about "it's not a real friend if they invade your privacy".
It's not about "why not just lock the phone itself".
Maybe you have a family member, girlfriend, wife, or CHILD you want to be allowed to use your phone. This requires unlocking the phone itself.
Buuuut, you don't want them snooping in your email or for the dense folks who don't get it, you don't want a CHILD deleting your messages accidentally, replying inadvertently to a co-worker via email etc.
Or let's be real, you don't want your GF or wife to see the chic you've been bangin's nude photo in your phone.
So you want to FINGERPRINT LOCK specific apps, like TEXT, EMAIL, SKYPE, TANGO, FRING, ETC! That way your "guest" can use your phone, but can't use any other apps without your finger!
GEESH!
I'd really like to see phones with Windows-like login profiles. So I can have my profile, ADMIN, and my wife can have hers GUEST.
Anyway...I second/triple/quadruple the idea of a fingerprint reader app lock. Right now I use AppProtector, and I'm looking into a new app called simply LOCK or (App) Lock.
"Clearly some people on this thread don't understand what's going on here. So let me break it down....
........you don't want your GF or wife to see the chic you've been bangin's nude photo in your phone."
*grin* The premise of your post made me laugh hard.
On a real note, I think this kind of application would be awesome. I too use appprotector, and I used to use the fingerprint scanner, but it just became bothersome to use everytime I locked my phone and had to unlock it. I don't have anything to hide on my phone, but I do lock my "SU" folder that contains all of my root tools. I have a 12 yo at home, and she could very easily mess something up without knowing it. I think the idea of locking certains apps with the fingerprint scanner is a fantastic idea, and I'd be willing to pay a few bucks for it for sure.
Actually, a whole utility for the fingerprint scanner on the Atrix that allowed you to do multiple things with it would be great.
Like was posted previously, it would be nice to have guest accounts (for wife and child etc), and with a fingerprint swipe, they wouldn't even have to login..swipe and go.
I know alot of people try to protect their devices with lock keys/patterns, while this may keep people from getting ahold of your personal files, what it does not do is provide a means of recovering a stolen unit, actually quite the opposite.
Coming over from a TF101, a lock screen does not protect you as much as you'd think. The first thing a theif will do in the event of a lockscreen is google a way around it. On the transformer this was simple - boot into recovery and factory reset through cwm. After that you're kind of screwed. Since we don't have CWM yet it works in our favor, but you don't want them to have to resort to that to use the device.
What you want to do is let your theif get into your device so you can track them.
Now I know you're thinking, "can't they just factory reset through settings?".
Nope. Install UAG Tab, this isn't a free app ($1.99), but it will protect apps from being opened with a password (pin, pattern, etc). So what you want to do is lock settings, titanium backup, root browsers, superuser, my apps, market, and download managers. I lock anything with root access that can delete things. The reason I recommend this over privacy gaurd and other free apps of this nature is because UAG has more settings, more lock methods, UAG helper (prevents it from being removed by anyone besides you), can remove its self from the app drawer, and has a nicer UI.
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Acessing one of those apps results in...
Once you have settings locked down, and any way an attacker can remove UAG. You'll want to download Cerberus.
Cerberus is the master race of stolen device apps. It allows you to do the following.
-Wipe data
-Track gps
-Capture webcam shots
-Sound alarms
-Record audio
-Get network information about the network the device is connected to.
-Last calls sent and received
-Hide from app drawer
-Record video (v2.0)
-others
Cerberus is free to download, but you only get a week of service for free, then you need to buy a key for service (around 4 or 5 dollars, cheap considering all it does). Cerberus requires device administrator privileges, which is why it's essential you lock settings with UAG.
I have cerberus synced with my 2nd gmail account that is on my tablet, so if you do this you'll need to change your email password before you try to recover your tablet in the event of it being stolen so you don't notify your attacker (I also lock gmail with UAG for billing purposes).
Since the transformer prime doesn't have phone service, you can't send commands to cerberus through sms (edit: apparently google talk lets you send sms, but seeing as it needs a wifi signal to receive this it's not particularly useful at this time). This means you need to have alot of wifi connections setup prior to it being stolen because you'll want your theif to access the internet. Here are some examples.
-attwifi (starbucks uses this)
-mcdonalds wifi
-panera bread wifi
-chickfila wifi
-linksys (most of these work on different linksys routers)
-your college campus network
-any other location you visit often, because you're more likely to be in that area to be robbed, and the theif may visit there again.
Keep in mind they won't be able to connect to more networks with settings locked, so this is important. If anyone knows of a way to connect to networks outside outside of settings, tell me and I will add this- because they NEED to be using your device to check their facebooks, while unknowingly broadcasting their location.
I hope this helps.
UAG: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.anttek.appguardtab&hl=en
UAG helper: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.anttek.appguardrecovery
Cerberus: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en (cerberusapp.com to track)
ickkii said:
I know alot of people try to protect their devices with lock keys/patterns, while this may keep people from getting ahold of your personal files, what it does not do is provide a means of recovering a stolen unit, actually quite the opposite.
Coming over from a TF101, a lock screen does not protect you as much as you'd think. The first thing a theif will do in the event of a lockscreen is google a way around it. On the transformer this was simple - boot into recovery and factory reset through cwm. After that you're kind of screwed. Since we don't have CWM yet it works in our favor, but you don't want them to have to resort to that to use the device.
What you want to do is let your theif get into your device so you can track them.
Now I know you're thinking, "can't they just factory reset through settings?".
Nope. Install UAG for tab, this isn't a free app, but it will protect apps from being opened with a password. (pin, pattern, etc). So what you want to do is lock settings, titanium backup, root browsers, superuser, my apps, market, and download managers. I'd lock anything with root access though. The reason I recommend this over privacy gaurd and other free apps of this nature is because UAG has more options, UAG helper (prevents it from being removed by anyone besides you), can remove its self from the app drawer, and has a nicer UI.
Once you have settings locked down, and any way an attacker can remove UAG. You'll want to download Cerberus.
Cerberus is the master race of stolen device apps. It allows you to do the following.
-Wipe data
-Track gps
-Capture webcam shots
-sound alarms
-record audio
-get network information about the network the device is connected to.
-last calls sent and received
-hide from app drawer
-lots more
Cerberus is free to download, but you only get a month of service for free, then you need to buy a key for service (around 4 or 5 dollars, cheap considering all it does). Cerberus requires device administrator privileges, which is why it's essential you lock settings with UAG.
I have cerberus synced with my 2nd gmail account that is on my tablet, so if you do this you'll need to change your email password before you try to recover your tablet in the event of it being stolen so you don't notify your attacker (I also lock gmail with UAG for billing purposes).
Since the transformer prime doesn't have phone service, you can't send commands to cerberus through sms. This means you need to have alot of wifi connections setup prior to it being stolen because you'll want your theif to access the internet. Here are some good options.
-attwifi (starbucks uses this)
-mcdonalds wifi
-panera bread wifi
-chickfila wifi
-linksys (most of these work on different linksys routers)
-your college campus network
-any other location you visit often, because you're more likely to be in that area to be robbed, and the theif may visit there again.
Keep in mind they won't be able to connect to more networks with settings locked, so this is important. If anyone knows of a way to connect to networks outside outside of settings, tell me and I will add this- because they NEED to be using your device to check their facebooks, while unknowingly broadcasting their location.
I hope this helps. I'll add pictures later.
UAG: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.anttek.appguardtab&hl=en
UAG helper: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.anttek.appguardrecovery
Cerberus: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en
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very nice. there is another on the market for free called Avast!. it will write itself to the /system partition so that a factory reset cant get rid of the app and it hides itself from the app drawers and list after setup. requires root though
I was thinking about that earlier, writing apps to /system/ could protect them even from cwm - but wouldn't the app data be lost in a reset? Similar to how gmail is in /system/app/ but a reset still loses your data.
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I was thinking about that earlier, writing apps to /system/ could protect them even from cwm - but wouldn't the app data be lost in a reset? Similar to how gmail is in /system/app/ but a reset still loses your data.
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ya, that does make sense. im not a developer, so im not 100% sure how it works, but Avast! says that it protects the app no matter what. whether you use CWM, a dialer code (in phones), or the in OS method. resetting it saves it. lol NO idea how...
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ya, that does make sense. im not a developer, so im not 100% sure how it works, but Avast! says that it protects the app no matter what. whether you use CWM, a dialer code (in phones), or the in OS method. resetting it saves it. lol NO idea how...
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I don't develop much but I'm in college to get into information systems security.
I used the trendmicro mobile security app when I first started using android, which has similar features to both avast and Cerberus, but costs substantially more at 29.99 a year. I still wish trendmicro would do a port of rootkit blaster or rubotted like they have for windows.
Would be nice if there were a method to receive sms on the transformer prime.
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I don't develop much but I'm in college to get into information systems security.
I used the trendmicro mobile security app when I first started using android, which has similar features to both avast and Cerberus, but costs substantially more at 29.99 a year. I still wish trendmicro would do a port of rootkit blaster or rubotted like they have for windows.
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you might as well be talking to me in chinese, dood. i use windows defender (i know, be gentle), i do not know much about computers. and im only slightly better with android lol
but good luck with school man, there should ALWAYS be a HIGH demand for information systems security!
I wrote some scripts in Tasker that do the majority of what Cerberus does, and then some, including the remote camera uploads and some fun things like forcing a phone to call me with speakerphone on, wherever it is. The problem with a WiFi tablet is that you can't track it when it's not connected to WiFi.
Frankly, I think AndroidLost is a better simple solution that's free. And Avast Mobile also has anti-theft options with root support that will allow it to survive a factory reset.
Both of the apps you propose cost money, which is really unnecessary when there are solutions that work just as well for no cost.
Well, it's a combined total of about 7 dollars. I paid around 690 for the tablet with dock, so 1% of that to recover it was an easy bargain.
You can do most of these things in ssh with a remote access client installed on the tablet if you're strapped for cash, it's just more convenient to install an app to do it.
Also I did mention privacy guard which is free, and there are a few free alternatives to Cerberus, I just don't think they're as featured.
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you might as well be talking to me in chinese, dood. i use windows defender (i know, be gentle), i do not know much about computers. and im only slightly better with android lol
but good luck with school man, there should ALWAYS be a HIGH demand for information systems security!
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Thanks, I hope so.
rubotted is a botnet detection app and rootkit blaster is a rootkit remover. Generally speaking, botnets and rootkits are things you don't want on your system.
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Well, it's a combined total of about 7 dollars. I paid around 690 for the tablet with dock, so 1% of that to recover it was an easy bargain.
You can do most of these things in ssh with a remote access client installed on the tablet if you're strapped for cash, it's just more convenient to install an app to do it.
Also I did mention privacy guard which is free, and there are a few free alternatives to Cerberus, I just don't think they're as featured.
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My TFP and dock cost me $0, and thus $0 is what I pay for software to recover it. AndroidLost really is an excellent app.
Electrofreak said:
My TFP and dock cost me $0, and thus $0 is what I pay for software to recover it. AndroidLost really is an excellent app.
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i can understand that. but that poses another question. if you inherited or were given a car, would you leave it unlocked/unclubbed? i know it didnt cost anything... but i cant see letting it go for neglect either...
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Would be nice if there were a method to receive sms on the transformer prime.
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There is. It is Google Talk.
You can also use Lookout Mobile Security. Does location, call and photo backup, make it scream (even if ringer is off), and antivirus.
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i can understand that. but that poses another question. if you inherited or were given a car, would you leave it unlocked/unclubbed? i know it didnt cost anything... but i cant see letting it go for neglect either...
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Once again, AndroidLost is as good Cerberus appears to be according to the feature list; thus I'm hardly leaving a car unlocked.
As I've mentioned previously, I secure my phone using a pretty involved Tasker script, backed by Avast with it's root support allowing it to survive a factory reset.
As I've not yet rooted my Prime and my Tasker scripts are highly dependent upon cellular signal, when I got my Prime I fired up AppAware and scrolled through the highest-rated apps until I found the security app that is rated the highest of all that are free, AndroidLost. After installing it and finding that it really is quite excellent, I've stuck with it.
Just because an app is free does not mean it has to be any less effective than one that is not. In fact, I find many free apps seem to be written by people more concerned with making and supporting a quality application than making money.
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Once again, AndroidLost is every good as Cerberus appears to be; thus I'm hardly leaving a car unlocked.
As I've mentioned previously, I secure my phone using a pretty involved Tasker script, backed by Avast with it's root support allowing it to survive a factory reset.
As I've not yet rooted my Prime and my Tasker scripts are highly dependent upon cellular signal, when I got my Prime I fired up AppAware and scrolled through the highest-rated apps until I found the security app that is rated the highest of all that are free, AndroidLost. After installing it and finding that it really is quite excellent, I've stuck with it.
Just because an app is free does not mean it has to be any less effective than one that is not. In fact, I find many free apps seem to be written by people more concerned with making and supporting a quality application than making money.
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AndroidLost is fine, but like I said before it's just not as featured. Cerberus allows you to send commands forcing the device to automatically connect to networks in range and also record video, which are just 2 of the features androidlost lacks. You can flash cerberus with rom manager so if your device is reset it's not deleted. LSDroid has developers that are making sure cerberus is optimized for ice cream sandwich, in addition to having tablet support. There's nothing wrong with capitalism and developers getting paid for their work.
Plus you can rick roll thieves.
Without an app like UAG there's nothing stopping someone from flashing a new rom anyway.
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There is. It is Google Talk.
You can also use Lookout Mobile Security. Does location, call and photo backup, make it scream (even if ringer is off), and antivirus.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
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The problem remains that you need a wifi connection to receive it :\
So Maybe I don't get the complete picture. But if I were a thief, and I would notice that all the main apps were locked. I would still do a cwm recovery wipe and then there's still no way to trace your stolen prime.... Well offcourse when it's availible. So this is more a kind of temporarily security... Or am I missing something here?
the main app for most people is the browser imo. Even then cerberus and UAG can be flashed with rom manager. The most dangerous move is to give them no other choice but to have to google how to hard reset, rather than to have all your settings secure the way they are on your current rom. As long as they can still play games and get on the browser they should be content thieves long enough for you to file police reports and track them down.
Let's not forget a majority of people who would rob you are like marvin guzman.
It appears that UAG Tab is no longer available on Google Play. Is there anything similar that is as nice or featureful?
Ah, never mind. I found it by looking for the creator's site as listed in their app's package name in the URL link.
being as this was almost 3-4 months ago is there any updated way of achieving this level or greater level of security our is it still all the same procedure and setup?
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hi guys , i need to track my kids via a software on their mobile phone but i want this software to work silently ,, i donot want them to know they are being tracked ,,, i tried instamapper on my phone to test it and it is perfect but it is on the application menu and appears in notification bar
i want something like it to work silently and enables me to activate GPS via web command if inactive and donot appear on app. menu and to be controlled via web account other than their google account as i tried samsung dive and i donot know their google password they both have samsung galaxy s II
Nobody who wants to secretly track their children without their knowledge should really have children in the first place... It's also a massive breach of their privacy.
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There are many good parrents that would like software like that. but the
Obviously themabda don't have kids, at least not teenagers. Responsible parrents don't let their kids run loose. Being a kid means testing your boundaries. As for the software I would like something similar. So far I havent found one. I did see one for rooted devices but still haven't been able to locate it again. It's somewhere on this fourm. I'll keep looking. It would be useful for locating a lost or stolen device also. The one I found before could turn on the cameras and record audio along with many other features.
As far as an invasion of privicy: As long as I pay for the devices and service I have no hesitation to track equipment that I own, no matter who is using it. If they want privicy let them buy their own. Of course if you're not doing something wrong why feel like you have to hide it?
"A boy let on the loose will bring his mother shame."
Samsung pass doesn't work. What do you guys use I just came from iphone and it has a password manager built in. What free ones are available
1password. Works everywhere and on everything.
Bitwarden has a free account offering and their premium is very cheap.
Bitwarden is free, open source and the premium is literally $10 per year if you wanted it but it's not needed, everything is available for free except the encrypted cloud storage.
I use Bitwarden's $10 a year tier so I can use my YubiKeys with it.
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
Brava27 said:
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
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How do you get Google pass to be the default over Samsung pass?
GastonC said:
How do you get Google pass to be the default over Samsung pass?
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Under passwords and autofill in settings. Then select autofill service.
Bitwarden $10 annual plan. Avoid using LastPass as they have had several security breaches recently.
Brava27 said:
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
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Not true and several reasons why some others are better and why I don't and wouldn't use Google password manager atm. YMMV
evangelionpunk said:
Not true and several reasons why some others are better and why I don't and wouldn't use Google password manager atm. YMMV
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Your choice. Google has never failed me.
Brava27 said:
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
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Good luck if your Google account ever gets breached. Or if Google one day bans your account like they've been known to do to others for seemingly no reason. I used Google's password manager for years but when this flaw was pointed out to me, I switched to Bitwarden that same day and I haven't looked back.
It's also very easy to breach your Google account and thus all your others if your phone is stolen.
Like iPhone, a stolen Android phone's PIN could be used to change Google account password
A report from The Wall Street Journal last week sounded the alarm on an obvious, but frightening issue on iPhone...
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EtherealRemnant said:
Good luck if your Google account ever gets breached. Or if Google one day bans your account like they've been known to do to others for seemingly no reason. I used Google's password manager for years but when this flaw was pointed out to me, I switched to Bitwarden that same day and I haven't looked back.
It's also very easy to breach your Google account and thus all your others if your phone is stolen.
Like iPhone, a stolen Android phone's PIN could be used to change Google account password
A report from The Wall Street Journal last week sounded the alarm on an obvious, but frightening issue on iPhone...
9to5google.com
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These are all valid points but chances of happening are very slim.
Brava27 said:
Your choice. Google has never failed me.
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Google also thanks you for all your data. But in all seriousness don't keep all your eggs in one basket. Using 1 service or company for everything (Like Google does) is a terrible security practice. I'm not saying don't use Google, I'm saying don't use it for everything PLUS (tinfoil hat time) the way things are going with less and less privacy, I expect Google to start using passwords saved in its services in an attempt to provide more services to users but in doing so they have access to everything about you, bank info, cellular carrier login, other email logins, everything and frankly that would frighten me. This is why I self host on bitwarden, everything is in my hard drive AND encrypted on backblaze.
spart0n said:
Google also thanks you for all your data. But in all seriousness don't keep all your eggs in one basket. Using 1 service or company for everything (Like Google does) is a terrible security practice. I'm not saying don't use Google, I'm saying don't use it for everything PLUS (tinfoil hat time) the way things are going with less and less privacy, I expect Google to start using passwords saved in its services in an attempt to provide more services to users but in doing so they have access to everything about you, bank info, cellular carrier login, other email logins, everything and frankly that would frighten me. This is why I self host on bitwarden, everything is in my hard drive AND encrypted on backblaze.
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I definitely agree. I might just be really lazy and don't care anymore. I could tie tomorrow and all the passwords I had would be irrelevant lol.
Does Google password manager fill in apps?
I second avoiding LastPass. In addition to the semi-annual breaches, their pricing is ridiculous. $50/year to store 100kB of data in the cloud? There has been zero evolution to their app over the last 5 years, so it is not like they have heavy RnD costs.
Brava27 said:
I definitely agree. I might just be really lazy and don't care anymore. I could tie tomorrow and all the passwords I had would be irrelevant lol.
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Your passwords will matter to family that left after you're gone. I have several people in my life that have a detailed guide on how to access my digital life if/when I'm gone.
Bank info, logins, email stuff, just to make thier lives easier getting things of mine closed etc.
spart0n said:
Your passwords will matter to family that left after you're gone. I have several people in my life that have a detailed guide on how to access my digital life if/when I'm gone.
Bank info, logins, email stuff, just to make thier lives easier getting things of mine closed etc.
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Yeah that's true. My good friend just passed at 37. His poor wife couldn't access his iPhone and it made things very difficult to process things and get photos etc.... I will do this process for my wife.
Brava27 said:
These are all valid points but chances of happening are very slim.
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Is it worth the risk for that slim chance? If someone gets ahold of your online identity, they can ruin every part of your life in a matter of minutes, all while you're totally locked out from being able to stop them. My Bitwarden isn't even tied to my Gmail address for the login and I keep my 2FA in Authy separately, with Authy set to not allow multi-device. It would be pretty difficult for anyone to breach me unless they put in a lot of work that my meager net worth wouldn't be worth doing.
Besides, Bitwarden is actually more convenient than Google's password manager in a lot of areas. When enabling the accessibility options, I've noticed that the password popup shows in places that Google's never did which means less having to manually copy and paste.
EtherealRemnant said:
Is it worth the risk for that slim chance? If someone gets ahold of your online identity, they can ruin every part of your life in a matter of minutes, all while you're totally locked out from being able to stop them. My Bitwarden isn't even tied to my Gmail address for the login and I keep my 2FA in Authy separately, with Authy set to not allow multi-device. It would be pretty difficult for anyone to breach me unless they put in a lot of work that my meager net worth wouldn't be worth doing.
Besides, Bitwarden is actually more convenient than Google's password manager in a lot of areas. When enabling the accessibility options, I've noticed that the password popup shows in places that Google's never did which means less having to manually copy and paste.
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I'll look into bitwarden. Thanks
KeePass Offline; only caveat is that you have to back it up manually (so each time I update it, I copy it to other devices in case the phone dies or is erased or stolen; my password is super long but I only have to remember one password).