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Is it possible to turn off the little shake at the end when you flip between screens in the sense ui. This takes about half a second extra and is really annoying.
Not possible?
syklitengutt said:
Not possible?
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I very much doubt it at the moment as it is part of the sense ui. It might be in future roms which are developed here on xda, but I'm not sure.
Wow I can't believe that either Android or HTC took such a serious step backwards with this new applications screen. I mean this stinks of way back in my Windows 6.x days. My EVO 4G applications drawer would just scroll and scroll so quickly and smoothly from top to bottom, relative to how fast and hard the finger gesture was. Now here we are again with this lame stepped scrolling app screen environment. You flick down and the screen moves exactly one set of five rows and slams to a stop, like you have reached the end. So you have to flick it again to get another whole five rows. In fact if you move the screen manually and slowly you can even see a thin white break across the screen where the stops are forced to happen. This sucks so much compaired to the beautiful, smooth, fluid animation we had before. Pleeeeease tell me there is a way to change this.
open app tray-hit menu-tap list=problem solved
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Wow I can't believe that either Android or HTC took such a serious step backwards with this new applications screen. I mean this stinks of way back in my Windows 6.x days. My EVO 4G applications drawer would just scroll and scroll so quickly and smoothly from top to bottom, relative to how fast and hard the finger gesture was. Now here we are again with this lame stepped scrolling app screen environment. You flick down and the screen moves exactly one set of five rows and slams to a stop, like you have reached the end. So you have to flick it again to get another whole five rows. In fact if you move the screen manually and slowly you can even see a thin white break across the screen where the stops are forced to happen. This sucks so much compaired to the beautiful, smooth, fluid animation we had before. Pleeeeease tell me there is a way to change this.
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Install Launcher Pro, ADWex, Launcher7, GoLauncher....I'm sure I'm missing dozens of them....Launcher Pro is the smoothest and most AOSP experience, though ADW is free with no nag and OSS, ADWex is the pay version, Launcher 7 is a Wp7 copycat, very smooth...not too feature rich...Go Launcher I've never used, but, seen good things from....
But you lose your sense widgets....
Screw rosie, I'll throw everything away to do away with that hideous beast
I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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I thought this was a question...
I happen to like how it is now but to each his own..List mode is the best your gonna get until we get some cracked boot loaders and roms
Rippley05 said:
I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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My thoughts exactly, lol. I was like, hmm, that was an easy way for them to fix the scrolling lag thru the app drawer, haha. I don't mind it, but look forward to the day I can get a custom rom on this bad boy and run some AOSP.
BrianBaker said:
open app tray-hit menu-tap list=problem solved
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Yeah I was aware of that option but really don't think that is a good trade off.
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Rippley05 said:
I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
Of all the things to complain about. I only knew it was a matter of time before people started acting like it was the end of the world because of something as minor as an app drawer. It was the same with the EVO.
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
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bad coding is bad coding. we weren't dropping frames, they just weren't there to begin with.
ADWex and LP are always liquid smooth to me, on my Moment, Evo4G, Nook Color and everyones phone I put it on who asks to 'make it faster'.....in fact, as much as I hate sense I could deal with it or even--gasp--like it (those are some sexy widgets) if that god damned app drawer wasn't so god damn ugly-laggy-slow .... stock launcher on my moment was smoother....and, well...nuff said
The app drawer has been like that sense the thunderbolt released, I guess u never had a sense 2.1 rom
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
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I think they might be fixing it for "less equipped" phones. I can imagine that several "low end" devices will have Sense 3.0 at some point.
ktrotter11 said:
The app drawer has been like that sense the thunderbolt released, I guess u never had a sense 2.1 rom
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Nope I went straight from my EVO 4G to this and my ROM of choice was always the trusty Sprint Lover's rom, which was the original sense.
Launcher Pro Plus (the $3 is worth it) works very smoothly (I can scroll the whole app list in 1 swipe, no lag). I got Fancy Widgets free from the Amazon Apps store awhile back, and it makes up for the lost Sense widgets. I got addicted to having the scrolling lower launcher bar - there's no way I can go back to just 3 buttons that I can't assign
I actually like the vertical paginated style in the Sense 3.0 drawer. It reminds me of the horizontal paginated in ADW, which is what I always used. I wouldn't go so far to say it's a major step backwards, though. It's not really the end of the world.
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Launcher Pro Plus (the $3 is worth it) works very smoothly (I can scroll the whole app list in 1 swipe, no lag). I got Fancy Widgets free from the Amazon Apps store awhile back, and it makes up for the lost Sense widgets. I got addicted to having the scrolling lower launcher bar - there's no way I can go back to just 3 buttons that I can't assign
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Fancy Widgets doesn't look anywhere even close to as nice as the new Sense 3 widgets man.
fmedina2 said:
Of all the things to complain about. I only knew it was a matter of time before people started acting like it was the end of the world because of something as minor as an app drawer. It was the same with the EVO.
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yup, people complains for everything this days, remember the 30 days return policy mi gente!!
I remember seeing a review that you're able to pinch the app draw to see all the apps at the same time, then select the screen with the app you want. Just like the home screen on the regular Evo.
Is this how it works? Cause that would eliminate a reason to fast scroll for me & also explain why there's a line every 5 rows
lol @ some of you guys getting upset at people who don't like the app drawer.... calm down little fellas... we aren't insulting you.
I love the phone so far, hate the app drawer... using anything other than sense 3.0 on this phone right now would be silly IMO.
noob question...
Will someone develop a Sense-like ROM, once development gets underway for the Photon? I really liked Sense, but did not like the 3vo's sound/speaker quality. I would love a sense ROM on the Photon.
Is it possible to strip the sense interface from 3vo and stick it on the Photon? Will this only be possible if bootloader is cracked or would it be possible with root only?
Sorry if the question is redundant or too simplistic for this forum.
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kimmied2000 said:
noob question...
Will someone develop a Sense-like ROM, once development gets underway for the Photon? I really liked Sense, but did not like the 3vo's sound/speaker quality. I would love a sense ROM on the Photon.
Is it possible to strip the sense interface from 3vo and stick it on the Photon? Will this only be possible if bootloader is cracked or would it be possible with root only?
Sorry if the question is redundant or too simplistic for this forum.
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it can be done but why? it's like a beautiful woman with a snaggletooth she's perfect till she smiles and ruins everything...
I honestly don't understand why everyone raves about sense. Yeah, its pretty, but never really added any functionality for me. I had an evo, and had a Evo Shift and the first chance I had to dump sense, I did.
I loved touchwiz on my epic, because it was basically just stock, tweaked a little.
To me HTC Sense is bloated and unnecessary. When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless.
Also, I don't know why everyone hates on blur. I know the old blur sucked, but whatever Ninja or Ghost blur the photon is running I absolutely LOVE.
@randomrobbi - "When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless"...maybe I missed something...what can't you do with sense that you can with stock?
The thing I miss most about sense is the widgets, especially the email one. It would show unread push email from several accounts including an exchange account and gmail. I liked that it would show the unread count immediately like photon does for voicemail.
I also liked the unlock screen where you could drag the slider circle to one of 4 apps that you want to use immediately.
And, yes, it was pretty. Couldn't a sense ROM have the bloatware stripped from it so that wouldn't be an issue?
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@randomrobbi - "When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless"...maybe I missed something...what can't you do with sense that you can with stock?
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I guess I misspoke about that. It's just harder to carry out some actions in sense, as compared to stock android. Like hitting dialer, and being able to easily access your starred contacts. I just felt like Sense added alot of extra steps to simple actions. I guess i'm just biased, but the first android I owned was an HTC Hero, which I never rooted or put a rom on. I didnt keep it long and went back to my blackberry. I've just always been more a fan of AOSP Android.
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I also liked the unlock screen where you could drag the slider circle to one of 4 apps that you want to use immediately.
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kimmie...try out THIS lockscreen. Same as the Sense one Agile Lock Screen
Also...I miss the Sense 3.0 Notification bar. Effin amazing. Has tons of toggles, quick access to apps, etc. Was so convenient & slick.
I'm sure I'm also in the minority but I happen to really like Sense, both visually and from an ease of use standpoint when setting up new devices. That said, I often turn a lot of those things off, or flip back and forth between various launchers but I still miss it sometimes. DEFINITELY agree about the Notifications, those are just the way I'd like them to be.
I'd love to see an installable Sense but it seems pretty deeply entangled in the rest of the system, just like Blur, so I dont know how well it'd work as a standalone.
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I'm sure I'm also in the minority but I happen to really like Sense, both visually and from an ease of use standpoint when setting up new devices. That said, I often turn a lot of those things off, or flip back and forth between various launchers but I still miss it sometimes. DEFINITELY agree about the Notifications, those are just the way I'd like them to be.
I'd love to see an installable Sense but it seems pretty deeply entangled in the rest of the system, just like Blur, so I dont know how well it'd work as a standalone.
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Im coming out of the closet too. I love the build and accessories of the Photon but im so damn used to Sense. Its like driving home from work, sure there are many ways but after awhile you find and get used to the fastest and easiest way home. Vogue, TP, TP2, Evo 4G and Evo 3D...currently Photon. Some days I forget how to get home.
Oh how about a touchwiz 4.0 like rom I really do miss my quick panel in the notification bar it was really handy :/
With the HTC Sense api recently available, i am sure that someone will start creating widgets and icons etc for other non-sense devices.
hmmm that didn't sound right, oh well, hope you guys know what I mean. lol
TS out
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Im coming out of the closet too. I love the build and accessories of the Photon but im so damn used to Sense. Its like driving home from work, sure there are many ways but after awhile you find and get used to the fastest and easiest way home. Vogue, TP, TP2, Evo 4G and Evo 3D...currently Photon. Some days I forget how to get home.
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Ifeel the same, I love the Motorola Photon... better speaker, better signal strength, call quality is better also... It just seems to be a little stronger over all.... But I miss the Sense 3.0. Sense is fluid with no lag.
The Motorola Blur has a slight delay when switching back and forth between home screens. I used to miss the graphical HTC widgets, but i have beautiful widgets for that so i am not realy missing anything. I just miss the speed and fluidness of Sense technology.
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Ifeel the same, I love the Motorola Photon... better speaker, better signal strength, call quality is better also... It just seems to be a little stronger over all.... But I miss the Sense 3.0. Sense is fluid with no lag.
The Motorola Blur has a slight delay when switching back and forth between home screens. I used to miss the graphical HTC widgets, but i have beautiful widgets for that so i am not realy missing anything. I just miss the speed and fluidness of Sense technology.
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The Delay can be removed with the super charger script, my buddy's Photon is now just about as smooth/quick as my Syngery Evo
The delay can be removed by adding launcher pro, turning off screen animations and putting all speed at 10... fastest phone out there then, faster and smoother than evo 3d.. i know because ive owned both lol
Edit: i know a lot of people prefer adw or GO but i dig LauncherPro.. also dont care about the updates as much because cool thing about blur is that you can use the widgets still once the overlay is installed, unlike sense.
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The delay can be removed by adding launcher pro, turning off screen animations and putting all speed at 10... fastest phone out there then, faster and smoother than evo 3d.. i know because ive owned both lol
Edit: i know a lot of people prefer adw or GO but i dig LauncherPro.. also dont care about the updates as much because cool thing about blur is that you can use the widgets still once the overlay is installed, unlike sense.
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What the hell are you doing back here? According to your thread in the 3d forums, this phone is a piece of ****. However your info about launcher pro and the settings is correct.
I don't understand the hate for the M.A.P. launcher I actually dig it
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Try Launcher Pro as the launcher, register it for the senselike social widget, and get Weather & Toggle Widgets and tbe weather widget forecast addon for your flip clock. This makes for a NICE senselike alternative.
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Oh how about a touchwiz 4.0 like rom I really do miss my quick panel in the notification bar it was really handy :/
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I think any phone with ClockworkMod Recovery can flash TW 4.0. It said that on the homepage awhile ago. Go to the Galaxy S i9000 forums in the Themes and Apps section and one of them is flashable I think and works on any device.
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I think any phone with ClockworkMod Recovery can flash TW 4.0. It said that on the homepage awhile ago. Go to the Galaxy S i9000 forums in the Themes and Apps section and one of them is flashable I think and works on any device.
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Dude remember how unstable it was on our EPICS? I wonder if it has gotten any better though
randomrobbi said:
I honestly don't understand why everyone raves about sense. Yeah, its pretty, but never really added any functionality for me. I had an evo, and had a Evo Shift and the first chance I had to dump sense, I did.
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I used to be a sense guy too.. I mean.. compared to stock android... it blows it out of the water... After getting the Evo I got my wife a Samsung Moment... I upgraded it to 2.2 but I never saw stock android before... I thought it was still 1.5 or something because I couldn't believe stock android looked that bad...
Stock android is ugly as sin.. and the widgets are less than ****.
But then I found Launcher Pro and its "almost-like-sense" widgets for calendar and facebook and I've never looked back. I loved Evo Deck on my Evo and Evo Shift Deck on my wifes phone because it is CM7 with ADW Craplauncher removed and LP added... a much better choice I must say.
LP's widgets are the only thing close to Sense's widgets so until another launcher starts pushing good widgets... I'll never leave.
So to answer the OP... Launcher Pro is the only Sense-like option you have... combined with Fancy Widgets for the flip clock (its the only one that does auto-update of weather based on GPS.)
I really want to use them because they are so cool, but I tried a lightning one and it just seemed to move a little laggy. Swiping, opening things, you could tell slightly it was a little slower. Not sure how drastic battery life is cut short though.
Anyone use them, or just use their own custom wallpapers? Or any other thoughts on Live Wallpapers in general?
I use them every now n then. I experience no lag at all with them on. it might just be that particular wallpaper not optimized for tablet or ICS. plus not too many out there that's HD. I rather use a highbdefinition wallpaper that showcases the Primes great display and colors. There are some really good live wallpapers out there though. They don't really drain the battery like people like to assume. Some are made better than others.
Some great ones are; Digital Hive(free), SunRise(free), Bubbles, Christmas HD, Season Zen(free), and Touch Ripples(free). Those all work n look great on the Prime with no lag. All this live wallpaper talk makes me wanna apply one now..lol
I've been using black hole that came with ICS. It works great. I use the ones that came with the system because their made for ICS. Doesnt effect the speed or scrolling.
I have been using the water/whale paper pre loaded. Works fine while indicating the battery level. Haven't noticed any lag or other issues.
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I try them on occasion too, and then switch away when bored to something like Windows Vista Wallpapers (and Win7, the dramatic Landscape stuff) They are all out there, modified for the Primes resolution
I just tried Black hole because of the other post, and I like it much more than I thought I would. We will see, by end of day I will be looking for something else, LOL!
Anyone try the "semi-live" Asus "Day Scene"? Changes with time of day, so it's really just 4-5 static WP's. Nice, but the "dusk " one s horrible. Looks like someone peed on the landscape, LOL!
Installed the Skyrim live wallpaper, looks and feels pretty smooth.
Guess you have to like the game though.
Digital Hive is awesome...When you're not doing anything on the desktop, it's pretty passive, but during touch actions, it's cool as hell.
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Digital Hive is awesome...When you're not doing anything on the desktop, it's pretty passive, but during touch actions, it's cool as hell.
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is yours working on ICS? it doesn't seem to move anymore on the preview screen. Before I had it animating the whole time.
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is yours working on ICS? it doesn't seem to move anymore on the preview screen. Before I had it animating the whole time.
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I have never had it animated without a touch action...it wigs out when you first apply the wallpaper; every hex spins until you touch each of them.
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I have never had it animated without a touch action...it wigs out when you first apply the wallpaper; every hex spins until you touch each of them.
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nah, the whole wallpaper animated without even touching it once applied. you are talking about the blue honeycomb digital hive, right?
Not me.
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demandarin said:
nah, the whole wallpaper animated without even touching it once applied. you are talking about the blue honeycomb digital hive, right?
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That's what I'm saying above. When first applied, it animated, but if you touch each hex, they won't animate again unless you're touching them.
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That's what I'm saying above. When first applied, it animated, but if you touch each hex, they won't animate again unless you're touching them.
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Well, it doesn't seem to animate at all in ICS. Just a static image.
That's how the free one works for me. The paid version worked ok but not enough for me to keep it so I got a refund
Is it me or can i do MORE with Microsoft launcher on my Note 9 than i can with this device?
I cannot find any launcher settings/features. I have dev mode on as well....and i got nothing.....
Is it me or am i missing something?
It appears as if this is using a modified version of Launcher for foldable phones, which does appear to lack a lot of customization features from the traditional Launcher.
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It appears as if this is using a modified version of Launcher for foldable phones, which does appear to lack a lot of customization features from the traditional Launcher.
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i'm sure someone will figure something out because this is kinda a bummer....those bars on the bottom are BRUTAL.....
This launcher needs help ASAP! The icons alone are brutal and there is zero customization to the launcher. I really like the Pixel launcher which has some but not a ton of customization and the normal M/S launcher is decent, I would be happy with that level but here is nothing currently going on here.
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How about some simple stuff like double tap to wake the screen since there isn't an AOD?
And why is the notification shade so narrow in comparison to the screen width??
I personally hate the pull down anywhere on the homescreen to search feature, I want to turn it off.
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I personally hate the pull down anywhere on the homescreen to search feature, I want to turn it off.
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I hate that too.... making more lags when is already pretty laggy
I found a little bit of settings but i can't disable many things i want..... example pull down laggy search menu
Press that Microsoft Launcher setting icon
avetny said:
I found a little bit of settings but i can't disable many things i want..... example pull down laggy search menu
Press that Microsoft Launcher setting icon
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Oh nice. yeah still limited. thinking its cause the OS cannot handle the extra features right now...most reviewers said the device wasn't even usebale prior to this day 1 patch....they got on the 5th...so id imagine.... we got a ways out or until someone brilliant creates a fork.
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Oh nice. yeah still limited. thinking its cause the OS cannot handle the extra features right now...most reviewers said the device wasn't even usebale prior to this day 1 patch....they got on the 5th...so id imagine.... we got a ways out or until someone brilliant creates a fork.
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I'm playing games and i see device actually running any game on super high settings exactly the same as Snap865!
So the kernel in very good shape.
I just don't understand where this micro lags coming from.... launcher!!!?? Rom? or maybe it is a kernel.
I'm happy that Microsoft didn't lock the bootloader.... so we have access to open a hood.
Don't know if I will be able to wait so long.
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I'm playing games and i see device actually running any game on super high settings exactly the same as Snap865!
So the kernel in very good shape.
I just don't understand where this micro lags coming from.... launcher!!!?? Rom? or maybe it is a kernel.
I'm happy that Microsoft didn't lock the bootloader.... so we have access to open a hood.
Don't know if I will be able to wait so long.
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I think its the launcher. I installed lawnchair and it seemed overall snappier. Went back to microsoft launcher though because other launchers act wonky when switching between postures.
avetny said:
I'm playing games and i see device actually running any game on super high settings exactly the same as Snap865!
So the kernel in very good shape.
I just don't understand where this micro lags coming from.... launcher!!!?? Rom? or maybe it is a kernel.
I'm happy that Microsoft didn't lock the bootloader.... so we have access to open a hood.
Don't know if I will be able to wait so long.
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Yeah I get what you mean I been back n forth between this and the fold2
Supposedly an update per month on the duo is what was said.... Let's see how well that pans out.
The studders are really odd.
What would you move to from this?
xgp0006 said:
Yeah I get what you mean I been back n forth between this and the fold2
Supposedly an update per month on the duo is what was said.... Let's see how well that pans out.
The studders are really odd.
What would you move to from this?
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I came from Sony Xperia 1 Mark II (latest flagship)
Yeah It was Note20Ultra or Fold2 but im gonna hold out and see what the deal is with a new launcher setup for this thing hopefully sooner than later.
I fear that Microsoft held onto all the cards and didnt let 3rd parties in on the goods to develop ahead as they want everything to be theirs on the front end for a long as possible....issue is....its not holding water and i think they gotta act fast.... Lets see what aftermarket comes up with now.
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Yeah It was Note20Ultra or Fold2 but im gonna hold out and see what the deal is with a new launcher setup for this thing hopefully sooner than later.
I fear that Microsoft held onto all the cards and didnt let 3rd parties in on the goods to develop ahead as they want everything to be theirs on the front end for a long as possible....issue is....its not holding water and i think they gotta act fast.... Lets see what aftermarket comes up with now.
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Except that goes against what Microsoft actually did, releasing the API's and an emulator image for the duo a few months ago.
Right now, Android 10 is kind of hacked together to handle a lot of the dual screen features, but android 11 has those API's built in, so hopefully 11 will help out with a lot of the bugs we are seeing.
so when i try to install Nova, it runs as a layer on top of stock MS launcher.. like i can see both lauchers with their icons..really weird!
At this point unless a launcher developer goes to the trouble to make their product compatible with the Duo it will be M/S or nothing. I'm hoping their next software drop will help a number of the the launcher issues.
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so when i try to install Nova, it runs as a layer on top of stock MS launcher.. like i can see both lauchers with their icons..really weird!
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Both launchers leave "remnants" of themselves when you switch defaults. The way I got around it was to force-stop the Microsoft Launcher and make sure Nova Launcher was the default. This actually works pretty well. The problem is that Nova Launcher isn't optimized for this environment, and things get weird. So back to Microsoft Launcher I went.
Saw the post about lawnchair. And doing adb to disable... May try that