[Q] Installing a nand on someone else's phone - Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I made a nand of the rom I'm using and flashed it to my wife's phone (so she wouldn't have to set her phone up at all). It logged in under my accounts (which I expected). I removed my FB account but it will not let me remove my gmail account. It says the only way I can do that is to factory reset the phone, which defeats the point.
Does anyone have the setup wizard app or know where I can find it? I couldn't find it in the market.
Am I fighting a lost cause here?

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i beleive you are I personally have yet to figure out how to remove your gmail account you can add a gmail of hers but i dont think you can remove yours from it.

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Nevermind. I gave up and did a clean install. I'll just use Titanium and install her settings back. No biggie. I was just being lazy.
I am curious though if that set up wizard app would let me remove a gmail account from a phone. I even logged in and syned with her gmail account and it wouldn't let me remove mine.

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Really simple... flash a rom that doesn't come with google apps.

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Hungry Man said:
Really simple... flash a rom that doesn't come with google apps.
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What I'm aiming to do is put my backup on my wife's phone...only with the ability to replace my accounts and login with hers. So pretty much any nand I create is going to have google apps already flashed.

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To install a nand restore on another phone
all you have to do is put it in the right folder.
Step 1) Make a nand Backup on the new phone.
Step 2) Take the nand backup from YOUR phone, save it somewhere
step 3) Save YOUR nand backup to the right folder inside hers.
For example: Her phone will look for
/sdcard/nandroid/HTC123ABCDEFG
so her backup will be /sdcard/nandroid/HTC123ABCDEFG/2010-0814-1234/ or something
your phone might be
/sdcard/nandroid/HTC456HIJKLMNO
so you need to take your backup, maybe called /2010-0821-1111/ and put it in her folder, so that on her SD card you have
/sdcard/nandroid/HTC123ABCDEFG/2010-0821-1111/
Then she can 'nand restore' that, perfectly.
I have done this when getting new Eris's. First root the new Eris.
Then make a nand backup (so it creates the right folder)
Then drag the old nand backup into that folder
The problem is that once you nand restore, whatever Google account was set up with that backup is the ONLY primary Google account that will be allowed for that phone. So your Contacts/Calendar/Gmail syncing will have to be done with that original Google account. You have to data/factory reset anyway to change it. You could go Settings >Accounts and sync> and uncheck the the boxes for syncing contacts, gmail, and calendar, but that might be impractical.

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pkopalek said:
To install a nand restore on another phone
all you have to do is put it in the right folder.
Step 1) Make a nand Backup on the new phone.
Step 2) Take the nand backup from YOUR phone, save it somewhere
step 3) Save YOUR nand backup to the right folder inside hers.
For example: Her phone will look for
/sdcard/nandroid/HTC123ABCDEFG
so her backup will be /sdcard/nandroid/HTC123ABCDEFG/2010-0814-1234/ or something
your phone might be
/sdcard/nandroid/HTC456HIJKLMNO
so you need to take your backup, maybe called /2010-0821-1111/ and put it in her folder, so that on her SD card you have
/sdcard/nandroid/HTC123ABCDEFG/2010-0821-1111/
Then she can 'nand restore' that, perfectly.
I have done this when getting new Eris's. First root the new Eris.
Then make a nand backup (so it creates the right folder)
Then drag the old nand backup into that folder
The problem is that once you nand restore, whatever Google account was set up with that backup is the ONLY primary Google account that will be allowed for that phone. So your Contacts/Calendar/Gmail syncing will have to be done with that original Google account. You have to data/factory reset anyway to change it. You could go Settings >Accounts and sync> and uncheck the the boxes for syncing contacts, gmail, and calendar, but that might be impractical.
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It took me a few tries to figure out that I had to put my nand in her file located at sd/nandroid/whateverfilename and couldn't simply drop my sd/nandroid/whateverfilename/datenandwascreated file on her phone.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Doing a factory reset would return the rom to a factory state (like a fresh wipe and flash of a new rom)? Surely google/verizon/htc thought that people might want to change their e-mail address for whatever reason and included a way to do this without resetting the phone? Guess not.
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pkopalek said:
The problem is that once you nand restore, whatever Google account was set up with that backup is the ONLY primary Google account that will be allowed for that phone. So your Contacts/Calendar/Gmail syncing will have to be done with that original Google account. You have to data/factory reset anyway to change it. You could go Settings >Accounts and sync> and uncheck the the boxes for syncing contacts, gmail, and calendar, but that might be impractical.
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Last night I ran a quick experiment with a Froyo ROM (Kaos V30):
- Shut down phone
- booted Amon_RA
- # mount /data
- # rm /data/system/accounts.db
- # umount /data
- rebooted
Reboot seemed fine, and there were no (Gmail) contacts present in the dialer, nor any access to Gmail. Shortcuts to specific (phone) contacts were still in my home screens (including images of the person), but clicking on them resulted in an error. No apparent FCs anywhere.
Clicking on the Market app took me immediately to the Google Account setup screen (which I believe is the same thing as Settings -> Accounts & sync -> Add account -> Google). I don't know if this (behavior) is unique to 2.2 or not.
I don't have a second Google account, so I just re-entered the username/pass for my account - the same one that had already been on the phone, and the phone started "syncing". I sort of wondered what might happen (because I am using Froyo "Save my settings"), but everything came back as I would expect - Contacts, Gmail, etc.
I would have proceeded a little further with this experiment, but I couldn't access the Market ("connection error") (about 1am EST Saturday morning), so I stopped, assuming this was a failure - and restored a Nandroid backup. When the restored ROM also had trouble with the Market, I thought - "oh, boy, what have I done?" But, it seems that a number of people have reported trouble with the Android Market late last night / early this AM - and the Market was working this AM on my restored ROM, too.
I could repeat the experiment if there is any interest, and this time use my GF's account for testing purposes. There are probably some things cached that should be cleaned up prior to adding back in a Google account; probably it wouldn't hurt to use
Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications
To clear the data and cache areas for a few things such as
Browser
Calendar
Calendar Storage
Contacts
Contacts Storage
Dialer
Dialer Storage
Email
Gmail
Google Voice
Maps
Market
(Plus others as appropriate - Twitter, FB, etc)
bftb0

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bftb0 said:
Last night I ran a quick experiment with a Froyo ROM (Kaos V30):
- Shut down phone
- booted Amon_RA
- # mount /data
- # rm /data/system/accounts.db
- # umount /data
- rebooted
Reboot seemed fine, and there were no (Gmail) contacts present in the dialer, nor any access to Gmail. Shortcuts to specific (phone) contacts were still in my home screens (including images of the person), but clicking on them resulted in an error. No apparent FCs anywhere.
Clicking on the Market app took me immediately to the Google Account setup screen (which I believe is the same thing as Settings -> Accounts & sync -> Add account -> Google). I don't know if this (behavior) is unique to 2.2 or not.
I don't have a second Google account, so I just re-entered the username/pass for my account - the same one that had already been on the phone, and the phone started "syncing". I sort of wondered what might happen (because I am using Froyo "Save my settings"), but everything came back as I would expect - Contacts, Gmail, etc.
I would have proceeded a little further with this experiment, but I couldn't access the Market ("connection error") (about 1am EST Saturday morning), so I stopped, assuming this was a failure - and restored a Nandroid backup. When the restored ROM also had trouble with the Market, I thought - "oh, boy, what have I done?" But, it seems that a number of people have reported trouble with the Android Market late last night / early this AM - and the Market was working this AM on my restored ROM, too.
I could repeat the experiment if there is any interest, and this time use my GF's account for testing purposes. There are probably some things cached that should be cleaned up prior to adding back in a Google account; probably it wouldn't hurt to use
Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications
To clear the data and cache areas for a few things such as
Browser
Calendar
Calendar Storage
Contacts
Contacts Storage
Dialer
Dialer Storage
Email
Gmail
Google Voice
Maps
Market
(Plus others as appropriate - Twitter, FB, etc)
bftb0
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THAT'S AWESOME! I would be very interested for you to repeat this experiment. This would be VERY useful for me. My wife likes the whole rooted phone with all the extra options but she's not into it like I am. If this works and is stable, I could easily set her phone up exactly like mine. I would test it myself but I'm not an advanced adb user. If I break something, it's just broke which would probably equal the doghouse for me since it's my wifes phone.
If this works, you should write a how-to for the community. I couldn't find one when I searched and I'm sure others would find it useful.
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joshw0000 said:
THAT'S AWESOME! I would be very interested for you to repeat this experiment. This would be VERY useful for me. My wife likes the whole rooted phone with all the extra options but she's not into it like I am. If this works and is stable, I could easily set her phone up exactly like mine. I would test it myself but I'm not an advanced adb user. If I break something, it's just broke which would probably equal the doghouse for me since it's my wifes phone.
If this works, you should write a how-to for the community. I couldn't find one when I searched and I'm sure others would find it useful.
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So long as you have adb working, you do not need to be an "advanced" adb user in order to help out with the testing. After you create a Nandroid Backup in Amon_RA, there are literally only four lines you type in using the "adb shell" (with Amon_RA still running):
Code:
mount /data
rm /data/system/accounts.db
umount /data
exit
... and then do a Wipe Dalvik-cache in Amon_RA
Everything else that I suggested is performed using
Settings -> Manage -> Manage applications
in the main OS. (I suppose it might even be possible to delete /data/system/accounts.db using a root-aware file manager, but I prefer to do stuff like that in an offline fashion)
If something goes wrong - well, you have a full Nandroid backup available to restore to. The same thing goes for your wife's phone too, right?
bftb0
PS For anyone else reading this thread: it is a quarter-baked idea (not even half-baked); don't take away from this any sort of mis-impression that this has undergone any significant testing (none at all on 2.1, in fact). Feel free to experiment yourself - but make good Nandroid backups!

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bftb0 said:
So long as you have adb working, you do not need to be an "advanced" adb user in order to help out with the testing. After you create a Nandroid Backup in Amon_RA, there are literally only four lines you type in using the "adb shell" (with Amon_RA still running):
Code:
mount /data
rm /data/system/accounts.db
umount /data
exit
... and then do a Wipe Dalvik-cache in Amon_RA
Everything else that I suggested is performed using
Settings -> Manage -> Manage applications
in the main OS. (I suppose it might even be possible to delete /data/system/accounts.db using a root-aware file manager, but I prefer to do stuff like that in an offline fashion)
If something goes wrong - well, you have a full Nandroid backup available to restore to. The same thing goes for your wife's phone too, right?
bftb0
PS For anyone else reading this thread: it is a quarter-baked idea (not even half-baked); don't take away from this any sort of mis-impression that this has undergone any significant testing (none at all on 2.1, in fact). Feel free to experiment yourself - but make good Nandroid backups!
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I do have a working adb and understand for the most part that you're deleting accounts.db in /data/system?? What I'm not following is why I would need to boot into recovery to delete the file. Would the process not work the same if you made the changes while booted in the rom? Do the changes affect the recovery partition at all or did you boot to recovery so you can immediately wipe dalvik and reboot? That's my biggest fear.
Sorta the same question - does it matter where you're booted when you do adb commands (booted, usb mounted, recovery, powered off)?
P.S. I've read several responses you've posted in other threads. You're very thorough in reponses and I personally have learned a lot from reading them. Thanx for your input and help with us noob and novice users.
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joshw0000 said:
I do have a working adb and understand for the most part that you're deleting accounts.db in /data/system?? What I'm not following is why I would need to boot into recovery to delete the file. Would the process not work the same if you made the changes while booted in the rom? Do the changes affect the recovery partition at all or did you boot to recovery so you can immediately wipe dalvik and reboot? That's my biggest fear.
Sorta the same question - does it matter where you're booted when you do adb commands (booted, usb mounted, recovery, powered off)?
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The changes do not affect the recovery partition - the reason that the recovery partition is used for almost all administration involving system elements is because there are not files which are "locked" by applications that are using those files, nor do you have anything running which depends on that file at the moment it is deleted.
The account credentials are important to lots of applications which are running on the phone in the regular OS, and you will get strange behaviors, crashes, and possible corruption of application state if you just yank the file out from underneath all those applications. You could try to stop those apps first - but a lot of them auto-restart on their own.
I'll use an analogy; it's like the difference between setting a table without a tablecloth, versus trying to remove the tablecloth after all the dishes are in place.
There are lots of reasons to prefer doing things in an offline mode, but the primary one is that you are not "yanking X out from underneath Y" - when "Y" thinks that "X" is still there.
It is typical for both system and application logic to do things like check for files on startup, and then either rebuild them from defaults if they are not present, or read/write their contents if they are already present. It is a lot more rare for applications to be coded in way that they are constantly check to see if something they though was there has suddenly disappeared. Moreover, the way that locking works with Linux kernels, you can delete a file that is opened by another process, and replace it with a new file - but the processes that are still running with that file open will still have a copy of it.
As for being scared - you have a Nandroid backup, right?
bftb0

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That makes a lot since. I'll try this method out the next time I change my wife's rom.
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