Hi all,
I'm planning to buy Samsung Galaxy S, but the problem that the international version is pricey so I desided to buy either vibrant from T-Mobile or Captivate from at&t. I really confused I don't know which one should I choose Captivate or T-Mobile !
Is there any major difference between the phones or they are exactly same expect the design ?
I saw that Vibrate comes preloaded with the sims 3 and avatar.
Is there any specialty in Captivate ?!
Help me
The_wolf88 said:
Hi all,
I'm planning to buy Samsung Galaxy S, but the problem that the international version is pricey so I desided to buy either vibrant from T-Mobile or Captivate from at&t. I really confused I don't know which one should I choose Captivate or T-Mobile !
Is there any major difference between the phones or they are exactly same expect the design ?
I saw that Vibrate comes preloaded with the sims 3 and avatar.
Is there any specialty in Captivate ?!
Help me
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The main differences are:
• The Vibrant allows side-loading of non-market apps. The Captivate does not.
• The Vibrant has radios for T-Mobile and AT&T 3G. The Captivate has radios for AT&T 3G
Tarzanman said:
The main differences are:
• The Vibrant allows side-loading of non-market apps. The Captivate does not.
• The Vibrant has radios for T-Mobile and AT&T 3G. The Captivate has radios for AT&T 3G
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you can side-load apps on the captivate, you just have to download an app for it.
and the captivate has a better build quality, full metal case.
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you can side-load apps on the captivate, you just have to download an app for it.
and the captivate has a better build quality, full metal case.
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Feels the same to me. Just different back. Plus vibrant does att 3g. Captivate just has...a fancy camera app plus I hate how the captivate has the buttons too close to the bottom of the screen
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I like the look of the Captivate better but it is not pleasant to hold.
Remember, the Vibrant only has ATT 3G in areas where ATT uses the 1900Mhz Band for 3G. Many areas use only 850Mhz for ATT 3G, in that case you wouldn't get ATT 3G on your Vibrant. I say this from personal experience.
Out of the box, you can install non-Market app on the Vibrant. Can't do that on the Captivate. Check Captivate forum. I guess AT&T learn too much crap from Apple.
Another thing to consider is that AT&T has a data cap on its data plans. T-Mobile does not.
Vibrant is a LOT lighter and comes with exchangeable back covers - pink and the default one. It makes no difference if you are a guy though. But I really like the pink cover.
Also depending on where you are, T-mobile's network can be much more reliable and faster than AT&T. Especially if you are under its HSPA+ coverage.
I think it's worth pointing out that while TMo won't cut you off for using a certain amount of data, they will throttle your speed if you use more than 10 Gb a month. Also, their data plan terms (like everyone else's) are written such that they're legally able to cut you off if they wanted to for "disproportionately heavy" use, but I haven't heard of anyone experiencing that yet.
Thanks guys for your replies..
I won't use them in US ! So is the captivate going to work on my service provider 3G network or not?
Another thing I found that the captivate is cheaper than Vibrant by approximately $100 so does the differences between the two models deserve that amount ?!
You need to find out in the country you are gonna use it, what kind of frequencies they use, especially for 3G in the quad band, that will be the decision maker factor you need!!!!!
Captivate looks better, and I paid 500+ for my Vibrant...
I have both and in my opinion my Vibrant feels WAY better in my hand. Plus something about the design of the Captivate makes it feel larger then my Vibrant. I'm lucky though, in my area there is a lot of 1900mhz I guess because my Vibrant is unlocked on AT&T and I haven't even noticed a difference as far as 3G connectivity goes.
Oddest thing though, if I disable 3G data on both of them my Vibrant will stomp my Captivate in the mud. Something about it handles EDGE far better. Which can come in handy if you find yourself out in the middle of nowhere with no 3G.
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opiomorph said:
I think it's worth pointing out that while TMo won't cut you off for using a certain amount of data, they will throttle your speed if you use more than 10 Gb a month. Also, their data plan terms (like everyone else's) are written such that they're legally able to cut you off if they wanted to for "disproportionately heavy" use, but I haven't heard of anyone experiencing that yet.
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You'd have to download a whole lot of torrents to get to 10GB of usage on your cell phone lol.
if u like ur fone heavier and bulkier go wit the captivate but from my experience wit the vibrant i love it, its super light and thin i would say go wit the vibrant
I picked the captivate (Im in Australia) because of the bigger internal memory (16Gb > 2Gb) and I preferred the look.
Personal preference mate. Everyone will justify their reason for choosing what they did (duh). Get a feel for both, look at the plans for both, and pick the one that suits you better......or you could always toss a coin...
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You'd have to download a whole lot of torrents to get to 10GB of usage on your cell phone lol.
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I think a lot of people use tethering for laptop a lot. I personally do it every time when I'm on the go
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ozy944 said:
I picked the captivate (Im in Australia) because of the bigger internal memory (16Gb > 2Gb) and I preferred the look.
Personal preference mate. Everyone will justify their reason for choosing what they did (duh). Get a feel for both, look at the plans for both, and pick the one that suits you better......or you could always toss a coin...
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The vibrant has 16gb also.
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I think it's worth pointing out that while TMo won't cut you off for using a certain amount of data, they will throttle your speed if you use more than 10 Gb a month. Also, their data plan terms (like everyone else's) are written such that they're legally able to cut you off if they wanted to for "disproportionately heavy" use, but I haven't heard of anyone experiencing that yet.
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This is true UNLESS, you are on a business plan, they have never throttled me, not that I go over that very often but I have tested it, and I asked one of their "business specialists" about it .....
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Title says it all . Just thought I would set a poll to see where everyone is headed now that the specs have leaked and there are hands on videos surfacing the web.
omg, another post about this?? (although I did vote 'no')
How can I vote using XDA app?
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Menu > Browser
That will take you to the thread you are looking at, but in the browser.
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I hate to admit it as I was very much against switching, but I will be trying the new phone. 4 of my friends are also getting it and we geek out a good bit with our phones so I'm gonna test the waters. Luckily I know that if it's not exactly as I want it to be, I'll now have another 30 days to go back and get my beloved GSII.
No LTE in my city so why change?
No. Really don't see a reason to.
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That phone is too dang big for my dainty hands!
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That phone is too dang big for my dainty hands!
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This is funny reading it on a note!
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Just a heads up to everyone. AT&T Direct Corp stores will have the Skyrocket on sale for $149.99 starting Sunday. This price is good only at their stores, dealers will be the standard $249.99 pricing on a 2yr contract. Verified by 3 sources (2 prev managers I worked with) and 1 random local store.
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Just a heads up to everyone. AT&T Direct Corp stores will have the Skyrocket on sale for $149.99 starting Sunday. This price is good only at their stores, dealers will be the standard $249.99 pricing on a 2yr contract. Verified by 3 sources (2 prev managers I worked with) and 1 random local store.
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Thanks for this, though it seems odd that they would have a sale on a new release like that.
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Thanks for this, though it seems odd that they would have a sale on a new release like that.
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Agreed. They used the verbiage, 'initial launch window' which leads me to believe they're doing this to lure people directly into their stores initially. Not sure how long but it definitely won't be the permanent price. If I can get any more solid info or source material, I'll update - but no promises.
Is that in all markets, or just LTE markets?
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Is that in all markets, or just LTE markets?
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The last rep I talked with said nationwide. The info I got from my local stores and contacts are all close by and not in a current or soon-to-be LTE market.
I am suprised that after the official specs came out that everyone is still going to switch......I wasn't going to anyway, but now I feel even better about my decision.....well bon voyage fellas....and good luck with your new phone.
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tboooe said:
That phone is too dang big for my dainty hands!
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That's my issues with it.
1. I just got the sga2 and the size of it is perfect. When I hold it in my right hand I can very easily swipe down the notifications or if I am typing with it is my ritgh hand and using my thumb I can do it easily and fairly accurately. With a bigger screen I don't know it will fit as nicely, in fact I am pretty sure it wont. I have the bionic and it drives me crazy because it so big and the thunderbolt is the same way.
2. Rom development learning curve. When the lye came out for Verizon there was a tremendous amount of issues ans bugs with data switching from 4g to 3g and half the time you were left without any data. It will not be as easy for the devs to make Roms or even port them because for some it will be a new concept. Right now we have a few great roms to choose from. When the sga2 is out it will be a while until there is a any Roms. If anything I will wait until the last couple of days of my return period which is about 22 days from now, to see the progress of development, before I think of switching. Like I said the screen size is an issue for me. If it doesn't fit as nice as this phone then I definitely wont switch.
3. Battery life- even though the skyrkt has a bigger battery the battery life will be significantly less than what we got. All lte devices have shirty battery life, bionic, thunderbolt etc. I know this because I own them and as you can see which phone I favor because I am writing this post frlm it. The sga2 is by far the best phone out there, tried them all. Any deviation from this phone could possibly make it no longer "the perfect phone". I have not tried the phone yet so at this point I am just assuming, or speculating.
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That's my issues with it.
1. I just got the sga2 and the size of it is perfect. When I hold it in my right hand I can very easily swipe down the notifications or if I am typing with it is my ritgh hand and using my thumb I can do it easily and fairly accurately. With a bigger screen I don't know it will fit as nicely, in fact I am pretty sure it wont. I have the bionic and it drives me crazy because it so big and the thunderbolt is the same way.
2. Rom development learning curve. When the lye came out for Verizon there was a tremendous amount of issues ans bugs with data switching from 4g to 3g and half the time you were left without any data. It will not be as easy for the devs to make Roms or even port them because for some it will be a new concept. Right now we have a few great roms to choose from. When the sga2 is out it will be a while until there is a any Roms. If anything I will wait until the last couple of days of my return period which is about 22 days from now, to see the progress of development, before I think of switching. Like I said the screen size is an issue for me. If it doesn't fit as nice as this phone then I definitely wont switch.
3. Battery life- even though the skyrkt has a bigger battery the battery life will be significantly less than what we got. All lte devices have shirty battery life, bionic, thunderbolt etc. I know this because I own them and as you can see which phone I favor because I am writing this post frlm it. The sga2 is by far the best phone out there, tried them all. Any deviation from this phone could possibly make it no longer "the perfect phone". I have not tried the phone yet so at this point I am just assuming, or speculating.
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Comparing Verizon's LTE phones to att lte phones is that both are different in terms the phones. To my understanding that Verizon's phones has 2 radios one for their cdma aka 3G network and the other for lte where Att will only have one except their lte is going to be more then likely a different band but since lte is gsm, should not need another radio. So trying to compare verizon's lte to 3g switch off is not going to be the same as att lte which from what I have been reading about will be running on 700 and 1700 mhz bands which is probably why att will not have as many problems as verizon since att currently uses for their Hspa *3G* and Hspa+ *4G as marketed* runs off 850 and 1900 mhz bands, so building an lte radio to run quad band should not be an issue and then running a quad band for 2G should not be an issue in the same radio where Verizon's 3G network as they call it is cdma and their lte network should be running off of 700 mhz and 1700 mhz as well as falls back to cdma. The issue I can see happening with att is the 3G/4G/LTE back to Edge aka 2G will cause dropped calls and slow data or no data, like it does from hspa/hspa+ back to Edge. My sgs2 has been proven otherwise but it still can happen because the handoff is not perfect.
I am not sure if battery life is going to take a serious hit as I do not have lte in my area at the moment with att but what would have been nice to test the skyrocket compared to the og sgs2 if both were running the same cpu, that would be the true test. A good test would be the T-mobile sgs2 versus the skyrocket, that would be a way to see if the battery life takes a hit since both phones are similar in specs.
HTH,
Charlie
I had a snapdragon in my Sony Xperia. It was a good starter phone. I am very happy with my Galaxy S II. No need yo upgrade to something less.
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dmnall said:
Comparing Verizon's LTE phones to att lte phones is that both are different in terms the phones. To my understanding that Verizon's phones has 2 radios one for their cdma aka 3G network and the other for lte where Att will only have one except their lte is going to be more then likely a different band but since lte is gsm, should not need another radio. So trying to compare verizon's lte to 3g switch off is not going to be the same as att lte which from what I have been reading about will be running on 700 and 1700 mhz bands which is probably why att will not have as many problems as verizon since att currently uses for their Hspa *3G* and Hspa+ *4G as marketed* runs off 850 and 1900 mhz bands, so building an lte radio to run quad band should not be an issue and then running a quad band for 2G should not be an issue in the same radio where Verizon's 3G network as they call it is cdma and their lte network should be running off of 700 mhz and 1700 mhz as well as falls back to cdma. The issue I can see happening with att is the 3G/4G/LTE back to Edge aka 2G will cause dropped calls and slow data or no data, like it does from hspa/hspa+ back to Edge. My sgs2 has been proven otherwise but it still can happen because the handoff is not perfect.
I am not sure if battery life is going to take a serious hit as I do not have lte in my area at the moment with att but what would have been nice to test the skyrocket compared to the og sgs2 if both were running the same cpu, that would be the true test. A good test would be the T-mobile sgs2 versus the skyrocket, that would be a way to see if the battery life takes a hit since both phones are similar in specs.
HTH,
Charlie
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I did not know that about the radios. Good to know
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I think skyrocket is running a Qualcomm SoC, not good choice compared to Exynos.
Just picked up my Skyrocket about an hour ago. LTE here so far seems pretty sweet. Getting around 15-20mbps download AND upload with 3 bars.
Any questions? I'll probably be making a video comparison between the International GS2 and the Skyrocket soon.
How do you hold a 4 and a half inch phone in your hand? Does it make you feel dirty?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1334524
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1334524
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Taking questions for the VIDEO REVIEW
What processor is it running? Think roms can be easily ported?
The AT&T store by me has the Skyrocket for $149 and Vivid for $99. SGSII isn't being sold anymore (but $199 on the website).
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What processor is it running? Think roms can be easily ported?
The AT&T store by me has the Skyrocket for $149 and Vivid for $99. SGSII isn't being sold anymore (but $199 on the website).
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The Skyrocket has a different than that of the International, and AT&T Galaxy S II (Exynos), thus porting is not an easy task.
How is the text sharpness on the Skyrocket, and can you control it with one hand?
hows battery life? Does the phone switch from 3G to LTE like the GS2 switches from UMTS to HSPA when data is needed to save battery life?
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hows battery life? Does the phone switch from 3G to LTE like the GS2 switches from UMTS to HSPA when data is needed to save battery life?
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I'm going to do a battery life comparison after a few cycles to give the battery a chance to break in
But to answer your question, it stays on LTE data.. unless there's no signal. No switching between UMTS and HSPA
i got my sky rocket at 12 it is now 7pm and i still have 80% left and i have been running test and downloading and using netflix i dont see this phone as a battery hog AT ALL.
i have not seen it switch out of 4glte at all so far.
even when i have one bar, i get 9mbps when i have 3 plus bars its easily gets 20 plus mbps. and i have seen it hit 44 mbps maybe a fluke who knows though.
this thing flips through the web and runs streaming movies with ease.....sometimes i dont even see the loading bar.
im sorry, so its been confirmed that the skyrocket is snapdragon processor? Also how noticable is the display/pixels compared to the i777?
the2rrell said:
i got my sky rocket at 12 it is now 7pm and i still have 80% left and i have been running test and downloading and using netflix i dont see this phone as a battery hog AT ALL.
i have not seen it switch out of 4glte at all so far.
even when i have one bar, i get 9mbps when i have 3 plus bars its easily gets 20 plus mbps. and i have seen it hit 44 mbps maybe a fluke who knows though.
this thing flips through the web and runs streaming movies with ease.....sometimes i dont even see the loading bar.
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Location?
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cwc3 said:
How do you hold a 4 and a half inch phone in your hand? Does it make you feel dirty?
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I had the Infuse and it wasn't so bad.
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Houston TX
I would like to see a comparison of web browsing full html sites with flash enabled. Just curious to see how the two processors compare in a real world situation.
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What processor is it running? Think roms can be easily ported?
The AT&T store by me has the Skyrocket for $149 and Vivid for $99. SGSII isn't being sold anymore (but $199 on the website).
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Hold on, are they ALREADY nuking a brand new flagship phone in favor of a slightly uglier brother?
kind of an odd-ball question, and I'm not sure it will help you with your review, but what happens if you put your LTE sim in an older 3g phone? Do you still get data? I am wondering if my backup phones will be useless after I upgrade.
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kind of an odd-ball question, and I'm not sure it will help you with your review, but what happens if you put your LTE sim in an older 3g phone? Do you still get data? I am wondering if my backup phones will be useless after I upgrade.
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Popped it into my SGS2.. works fine
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kind of an odd-ball question, and I'm not sure it will help you with your review, but what happens if you put your LTE sim in an older 3g phone? Do you still get data? I am wondering if my backup phones will be useless after I upgrade.
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There is no new sim. The new sims they released with the first hspa+ phones are lte ready.
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I would like to see a comparison of web browsing full html sites with flash enabled. Just curious to see how the two processors compare in a real world situation.
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Exactly like the T-Mobile SGS2. The Skyrocket's the same phone with an LTE radio vs. DC HSPA. If you read their forum, the UI isn't as fluid and neither is the browser. There's also some issues with the display because it's the same DPI as the OSGS2 stretched over a larger screen. It also benchmarks lower than Exynos. I'm sure all the happy new Skyrocket owners will disagree. Check out the TSGS2 forum, they've had the phone longer and aren't blinded by love. The online reviews of the TSGS2 frequently compare it to the ISGS2 so you may want to check a few of those out also as they've noted the performance difference.
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Exactly like the T-Mobile SGS2. The Skyrocket's the same phone with an LTE radio vs. DC HSPA. If you read their forum, the UI isn't as fluid and neither is the browser. There's also some issues with the display because it's the same DPI as the OSGS2 stretched over a larger screen. It also benchmarks lower than Exynos. I'm sure all the happy new Skyrocket owners will disagree. Check out the TSGS2 forum, they've had the phone longer and aren't blinded by love. The online reviews of the TSGS2 frequently compare it to the ISGS2 so you may want to check a few of those out also as they've noted the performance difference.
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I wont disagree but I will say I couldn't care less if it doesn't bench as high. This device is well beyond anything else I've used and still exceeds 90% of what's out there imo. I'm fine with that and I love the larger size.
I've yet to see any lag or sluggish-ness in any app so it all appears equal to me.
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Hello all!
I've been reading through this forum and wanted to ask you all a few questions.
First, let me start by saying I have been to a local ATT store and played with the Note. I found it to be a perfect fit in my hand. The screen size and resolution is flat out amazing. I also looked at the specs and found them to be on par with most devices these days. However, I have read that the processor in the ATT version is a Snapdragon with an okay GPU chip...any thoughts? The internal storage is 16GB and up to 32GB external (although in this forum, I have seen it as high as 64GB)...good to go as well. No default notification indicator...boo, but not a deal breaker and an app can fix that. I also have read that the camera is okay, but can be tweaked to make it better.
Next, I am not new to tweaking my devices...actually, I love too! I read, read, read everything and usually don't have any problems. I am definitely a power/advanced user and do much more then text and check email. I use devices to fullest extent as possible.
I am not asking you all to tell me to buy this device or switch networks, but instead I'm asking you all for real world answers. So here are my questions.
1. Looking through the forums, I saw about 3 solid custom ROMs and several stock rooted ROMs. My question is, do you all have a solid base for development? I also saw that there is no AOSP CM7 ROM for this device either...is that correct? With ICS expected on this device soon, will there be development (the international version has ICS already I believe)? I'm rocking the OG HTC EVO 4G and development is rock solid...even with the device about to turn 2yrs old (6/4/12)...so development is a huge deal for me.
2. Okay, Sprint doesn't have the best network and 4G/WiMax is a total joke. When I was at the local ATT store, I ran several speed tests on the display Note (using ATT's LTE) and was floored by the down/up speeds! My question is how is battery life with it connected to LTE all the time AND using the crap out of it. I ask this, because with my EVO, I very rarely use 4G/WiMax. We can turn it on/off at will thru settings or a widget. Also, I always connect to my WiFi at home. It looks like on the Note via a custom ROM, turning LTE on/off is controlled through the build.prop...is this correct? I keep chargers around, but just curious.
3. I don't use this feature that often, but it's always good to have...tethering. With my EVO, most if not all custom ROMs have the ability to tether (USB or wireless) baked in. So what are the options with the Note? I have never paid for this feature and don't intend to either.
4. I haven't peeked into the theme section yet, but I'm sure there are themes for this device...right?
Edit- Late addition question...kernels. I use OC/UV/SBC kernels on my EVO...so what is the current state of kernels with this device?
Before I end this dissertation, I want to say this forum seems to be more mature...always a good thing. Also, I have several device choices to consider, but I am strongly considering getting away from CDMA carriers and join the rest of the world on GSM...not TMo, been there done that. I'm on the fence with getting this device or waiting for the HTC One X version or the GNex coming to ATT and Sprint (if I decide to stay). I'm just doing some research to make a very good decision.
Oh and thanks for posting the price from Fryers...$199 is much better than $299 !
Thanks in advance to all that answer and Android rocks!!
I owned the Evo 4G before moving to the Evo 3D and after that the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon.
If the size of the screen is not that attractive enough for you to sway you from the One X or the Galaxy Nexus then I would advise you wait for the Galaxy S3. The S3 (rumors of course) is shaping out to be superior to any of those devices.
As for your actual first question, yes the ATT and the International version of the Note have two different processors. At the time, Samsung's Exynos cpu in the Int Note did not have a LTE chip compatible with our LTE spectrum here in the states. So they switched to the Snapdragon chip for ATT. Yes the snapdragon performs less than the Int counterpart but chances are you will see no difference in real world use.
1. Development for this phone is still in its early stages. Coming from the EVO I can tell you development like that is the exception, not the rule. There are tons of the phones and only the most popular phones get the same attention. The phone came out a little over a month ago.
Also this phone will never be at the same level of popularity as some of the other ATT phones (S2 for example). CM9 is being worked on now for the Note. Maybe we might have a taste of it a month or so.
2. ATT has a better network compared to Sprint. HSPA+ is more than enough to beat Sprint's 3G and WiMax to the floor. One of the advantages is the fact you can talk on the phone while surfing the web or look up directions ect. Battery life is actually superior in respect to CDMA LTE devices. Since all radios are on the same chip you save battery life. You can turn off LTE when not in a LTE area but there are no noticeable impacts on battery life.
3. If you would like to use tethering all you have to do is freeze and apk (tethering manager I believe) and that's it. You can tether as you please.
4. There are a couple of themes for the different roms that exist. Also themes are proportional to the number of roms. Keep in mind themes are different for Samsung phones. There are no themes in apk form. All themes must be flashed.
Huge thanks for taking the time to respond. I played with the Note again today and I was able to one hand text and navigate around with ease. I'm sure I will end up switching to ATT for a GSM device. I was at Best Buy and they would not honor Fry's price...I plan to check with a local ATT store next.
I plan on buying a new device after 5/3 (my contract with Sprint ends), so I plan on watching for the S3 as well. If anyone else wants to chime in, please feel free. Again, thanks for your well written response!
How do you turn off LTE?
Hey there, I am a T-mobile customer.
Do you guys think it's worth getting the AT&T version now or wait for the T-MO. I'd rather not be on a contract and I have no way of knowing if the T-mo version would be $650-$700 upon release w/o contract.
What do you guys think?
You can get international version now and it would work on T mobile. I would check out what Galaxy S III has to offer before i make my decision if i were you
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You can get international version now and it would work on T mobile. I would check out what Galaxy S III has to offer before i make my decision if i were you
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I'm not impressed by the S III. I would make good use of the S-Pen and related apps for work. The larger screen size helps too. It's not too large of a device for me. Considering the S III will most likely be neutered over here in the US, I'm writing it off. It's not the phone it should have been and it's mostly software
The international version wouldn't receive HSPA+ due to lack of 1700mhz base band. I'd just edge and that's not going to work. Otherwise, I'd have picked one up already.
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The AT&T wouldnt work properly without mod. Id say if you want reliability, get the tmo version.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
actually i would say get it now atnt i717. 2 reasons. 1) obviously you would have it now and it would work. Notice i didnt say work well. It really depends where you live and the data is not always consistent but around a range. I always get around 1-1.5 mbps down but there are times when its crazy like .5 mbps and .2 and sometimes even 3.5mbps. its flaky, but it works and its still good enough not that slow you can still get email and check apps. 2) Once the tmobile version comes out im almost postive that it can be ported to the atnt and make it work the same. I mean hardware is going to be the same the only things different would be the modem (which we need , a stable tmobile modem), the tmobile branding, and the bloatware.
But in the end its up to you. Depends if you can wait or not. I personally dont see any reason to wait. Onl if it wasnt possible to port the modem to this rom when tmobile note comes out.
circuit.007 said:
actually i would say get it now atnt i717. 2 reasons. 1) obviously you would have it now and it would work. Notice i didnt say work well. It really depends where you live and the data is not always consistent but around a range. I always get around 1-1.5 mbps down but there are times when its crazy like .5 mbps and .2 and sometimes even 3.5mbps. its flaky, but it works and its still good enough not that slow you can still get email and check apps. 2) Once the tmobile version comes out im almost postive that it can be ported to the atnt and make it work the same. I mean hardware is going to be the same the only things different would be the modem (which we need , a stable tmobile modem), the tmobile branding, and the bloatware.
But in the end its up to you. Depends if you can wait or not. I personally dont see any reason to wait. Onl if it wasnt possible to port the modem to this rom when tmobile note comes out.
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I can get between 6mbps and 1.0 mbps now on an exhibit II 4g and the phone is super buggy anyways. As long as it's fast enough to go on the web, always be able to make & receive calls/texts , I'm happy. My area has great signal strength, in general, so I think I won't have issues. I don't live in the sticks.
I agree that the hardware will be the same. No 1.4ghz Exynous us USA guys, so it should be able to be ported over anyways since the modem suppports the same frequency.
Hell, wouldn't someone do a stock rip of T-mo's bloated OS (and an unbloated version) that could be flashed to the AT&T version anyways?
Yeah they probably would. Just port the whole rom over and if they wanted to they probably would remove the bloat too.
I ended up ordering an unlocked, white i717 w/ a couple extra batteries / chargers / cases.
Now I just have to flash the radio (will to check out the radio thread now) and look into roms.
Thanks guys.
Good Morning!
I'm in the midst of trying to decide the best course to follow - I use T-Mobile prepaid for the data / messaging plans since I rarely talk on the phone; with the official T-Mobile branded handset coming out next week I'm stuck deciding whether to buy an unlocked ATT Galaxy Note or wait it out for the T-Mobile one to be available. I don't plan to sign any contracts so I'll have to pay outright (street price or store depending)
I know the major difference between the ATT Note and TMO version is the fact the ATT one has the 21 mbps hspa+ antennas versus the TMO one having the full fledged 45mbps antennas
while 5mb d/l is nothing to scoff at (ample for my use) I suppose more is better - but is it worth owning a 'more flexible' hanset that can run tmo/att/lte versus a tmo only handset?
thanks for your help in deciding!
Sorry Mods, as you can see I read more than I post - this can move to the Q&A forum if you see fit
wait for the tmobile one
you wont need to flash no modem to get 3G/4G service.
You also won't have to worry about charging the ATT version every 3 hours and worry about the phone heating up. I had the ATT one and I hated it for those two reasons.
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tr82691 said:
You also won't have to worry about charging the ATT version every 3 hours and worry about the phone heating up. I had the ATT one and I hated it for those two reasons.
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What this guy said
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Many members have had troubles with flashing the t-mobile modem on the att note.
I had t-mobile data plans for many years and liked the speed and no contract.
I would wait one week for sure.
tr82691 said:
You also won't have to worry about charging the ATT version every 3 hours and worry about the phone heating up. I had the ATT one and I hated it for those two reasons.
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the TMO version won't be any different, if you had to charge the ATT ver. every 3 hrs, which is absurd, mine last me most of the day on one charge, you will also have to do the same thing with the TMO ver. since the specs are the same and so is the battery.
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-galaxy-note-specs
tr82691 said:
You also won't have to worry about charging the ATT version every 3 hours and worry about the phone heating up. I had the ATT one and I hated it for those two reasons.
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Don't mind me, but after 4 months and avery ROM available, this hasn't happened to me. At worst I get 8 hours, but that's not stop phone, text, ebook, facebook, nand-backup ROM flashing and restore.
OK, the question: As I said I've been on the Note with tmobile for 4 months. data is poor....not horrible, but poor - but I'm at home on wifi most o the time, so it shouldn't bother me. Shouldn't is the operative word - thinks like this drive me to distraction.
So.....if I find the note 2 is being released, I'm going to hope t-mobile will offer it. Don't get too excited, it was something like 8 months between S, S2 & S3, so sometime in Q2 '13 seems about right.
Of course I'd have to take it on a leap of faith on after the announcement of the note 2 that T-Mo might get it and 8 months is a long time, assuming I'm anywhere near right.
Oh, my druthers: If everything were equal, I'd want the T-Mo version (cost wise).
audscott said:
Don't mind me, but after 4 months and avery ROM available, this hasn't happened to me. At worst I get 8 hours, but that's not stop phone, text, ebook, facebook, nand-backup ROM flashing and restore.
OK, the question: As I said I've been on the Note with tmobile for 4 months. data is poor....not horrible, but poor - but I'm at home on wifi most o the time, so it shouldn't bother me. Shouldn't is the operative word - thinks like this drive me to distraction.
So.....if I find the note 2 is being released, I'm going to hope t-mobile will offer it. Don't get too excited, it was something like 8 months between S, S2 & S3, so sometime in Q2 '13 seems about right.
Of course I'd have to take it on a leap of faith on after the announcement of the note 2 that T-Mo might get it and 8 months is a long time, assuming I'm anywhere near right.
Oh, my druthers: If everything were equal, I'd want the T-Mo version (cost wise).
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Not only that, they run on different radio frequencies.
Elpidio said:
Not only that, they run on different radio frequencies.
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The Note is pentaband, so techincally both the ATT and Tmo models are capable of running on each others' networks (provided you flash the correct modem).
The main reason some folks will probably stick with the ATT Note (myself included) is because of grandfathered data plans. For example, I still have the T-Zones data plan which I've had since the voicestream days...and basically get full unlimited internet (3G speeds) at under $10 a month. Granted, the speeds are probably not as fast as the normal $20-$30 plans, it suits my purposes just fine.
If you have one of the more recent standard Tmo plans, then I suggest going for the Tmo note, as it'll basically work right out of the box for you. I'm sticking with my ATT Note and hopefully when the Tmo radio gets leaked here it'll fix the terrible upload speeds and bad voice connection I experience now. *fingers crossed*
I've been spared from the terrible voice problems so many have experienced, just typical data slow downs.
Of course one could buy from cl or eBay, which would void the warranty, then again I'all be doing that on my own.
thanks all for the advice and tips - i did lots of reading as well into handling tmo radios etc to get the ATT version to run TMO properly
I did buy a ATT Note yesterday (the price was right) and I figured why not try it out right?
the Note is already running the S3 Rom with a few tweaks iirc, the seller had a local service mod it a few weeks back
without flashing the modem, just inputting the network unlock code (cellunlocker had it in 2hrs) a speedtest on 4G showed only ~150k d/l speed and after flashing the icsblaze.zip modem I had ~400k d/l speeds, so that's a little imrovement...
If i can get a solid 2mb d/l I'll be fine since I'm around wifi pretty often, but for the times I'm not...well...
I'm in the process of dl'ing Flapjaxx's ICS build and have an assortment of ICS radios (better check if they are in fact the ICS flavors or not) to try out
Thanks again XDA! what an awesome community
I've been using ATT note on Tmo for the same reason (grandfather in tzone). I am just waiting for a solid radio coming from Tmo Note.
I'll most likely be using an unlocked one. My brother got one for free (I think it was a friends) and we unlocked it. When the T-Mo version come out he'll upgrade and I will too from my G2. I use Wi-Fi when I'm at home or anywhere that has it for that matter so I don't think the slow(er) data speeds will bother me that much. As long as calls are okay then I'm good.
T-Mobile Note also will work on AT&T HSPA+ Network.
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I would wait for the tmobile version. My unlocked Note with the tmobile radio had spotty connection. One minute, I'm getting 2MB, the next serveral hours, i'm getting 112kb or it does not work at all.
Also when 4GB is running, the backside of the phone (below the camera) heats up a lot. Almost to a point I had to put the note down and let it cool off by turning off the network data. So it's working really hard to maintain 4GB and eating up the battery. It doesn't happen on wifi.
the only reason why I would want the At&t version is because of the white note and lower price.
I'm fine using my at&t version. If it's the same hardware I don't see a big reason to switch.
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Only reason I would get the tmo note would be for the wifi calling feature.. Then again it might be possible to flash tmo note stock ROM on unlocked att now and have the wifi calling feature, guess we will find out the 8th or soon after
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initial_k said:
I would wait for the tmobile version. My unlocked Note with the tmobile radio had spotty connection. One minute, I'm getting 2MB, the next serveral hours, i'm getting 112kb or it does not work at all.
Also when 4GB is running, the backside of the phone (below the camera) heats up a lot. Almost to a point I had to put the note down and let it cool off by turning off the network data. So it's working really hard to maintain 4GB and eating up the battery. It doesn't happen on wifi.
the only reason why I would want the At&t version is because of the white note and lower price.
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XDA is no longer worth my time.