Does the next update (2.1) somehow include a way to improve battery? I'm guessing no, wouldn't you need to replace the battery itself?
There may be battery performance improvements in the next update. My battery life is actually stellar. I set Timescape to update every 3 hrs and have brightness at about 75%. Off the charger at about 7am and at midnight that night I'm usually at around 40%. That's plenty good enough for me.
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Does the next update (2.1) somehow include a way to improve battery? I'm guessing no, wouldn't you need to replace the battery itself?
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I dunno about the update and battery life but, Its 100% to 20% in 25-27 hours for me which i think is awesome as my usage is high.
Try setting the updates of your apps lower, check the Batt usage history from the settings menu to see what sucks the juice more.
If you want more battery life then you'll have to sacrifice some updates, which according to me ruins the entire purpose of having such a high-end smart Android device. Just use the phone the way you like it, have the charger with you always
Whatever phone you choose i think you are going to have this issue since batt usage depends solely upon the way you use your phone. In 2.1 live wallpapers suck more juice so you'll be advised to turn it off its either functionality or performance, the decision is yours
According to me any phone u buy will have same battery life or there is 70% Probability to have worst battery life. X10 has one the best battery life amongst all smartphones
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I dunno about the update and battery life but, Its 100% to 20% in 25-27 hours for me which i think is awesome as my usage is high.
Try setting the updates of your apps lower, check the Batt usage history from the settings menu to see what sucks the juice more.
If you want more battery life then you'll have to sacrifice some updates, which according to me ruins the entire purpose of having such a high-end smart Android device. Just use the phone the way you like it, have the charger with you always
Whatever phone you choose i think you are going to have this issue since batt usage depends solely upon the way you use your phone. In 2.1 live wallpapers suck more juice so you'll be advised to turn it off its either functionality or performance, the decision is yours
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Hmm... could it be just me? My battery went from 100% to 53% from just staying locked over night (around 9 hours). I checked what's been eating it and it said "Cell Standby" and "Display". My brightness is on the lowest possible and Wi-Fi and Bluetooth is constantly off. I'll check that Timescape stuff and try to get the App Killer from the Market... (if my device even had a market!).
nah this device is ****ed up ...
sony homepage says that standby time is around 450 hours .... (more then 17 days!)
i dont have timescape on autoupdate - the only thing i do is gmail push and i get 1 and maybe 1/2 day(s) of standy time (depends if i make 1 call or not )
the update should increase it a lot i think
btw if some1 has a 2nd phone please try this:
charge it fully and then turn it off completely ... after 17 days turn it on ... my bet is it wont turn on coz the akku is totally empty...
I have no Wi-Fi at my hotel and I don't have a data plan. How on earth does it drain this much battery. I'm gonna go turn off every app and try another night just on standby.
Have a read of these...
X10 Power Usage
Battery life improvment thread
Battery Life Guide - Worth a read if you are having issues.
Jesus, what a difference a tweak makes. (Battery)
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Hmm... could it be just me? My battery went from 100% to 53% from just staying locked over night (around 9 hours).
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Good question for you actually, how long have you had the phone? my first 4-5 charges were appauling but it quickly got better and now i could not be happier. more often than not getting 7am - 11pm the next day (whats that, 40 hours or so?) out of one charge, with plenty of go left.
Mine is running RB##26 firmware, rooted and a chunk of apps deleted though.
When i first got mine it was a bit poo, remember for the first 5 or so charges to let the battery go down pretty low and it will improve battery life.
Get runcpu and you're golden.
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Sounds like you're running 014 firmware - I had the exact same problem until I updated to 020. The whole battery usage profile changed and one hour of standby only uses up 1-2%.
yeah, the 020 u/g makes a difference. I've rooted and overclocked mine, heavy usage on 3g can drain the battery in c12 hours but more than adequate for general usage
I'm a big user. Even with my G1, I was happy with a day's use. Anyone who thinks they're gonna get days of use without a charge is kidding themselves. A smart phone with a big screen us gonna suck juice regardless of what you do. As many an XDA user will tell you, keep your charger or at least the cable with you wherever you are. With FW026 it did help a little, but if you need life from your battery you really do need to sacrifice some of your widgets or updates.
MrZ
Today my battery have gone to 10% in about 10/11 hours, i'm using sip and wireless are active all day, even when it are on standby, installed some apps and played some games, some calls, its good enough, sometimes i get 2 days, depends on what you do, you can do some tricks...
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can anyone who is lucky enough to have a Hero already comment on the battery life?
i find that the 1.5 port i have on my Polaris tears through the battery like i have never seen before. (even with all widgets disabled)
don't forget the hero has a 1350 battery fitted as standard
i have no problems with my hero and battery life....so far
As long as you dont enable GPS its fine. I get through the day with about 1/4 left.
And I Browse through wifi for about 1 hr on it. few calls, lots of txts. Few games. few apps like wifi fixer, locale
thanks for the info...
The battery life is better then my Touch HD and deffinetly better then my Diamond, and even when I keep wifi running I can get through a day without trouble,
I'm really surprised how long it lasts, wasn't expected at all,
Imagine how good it will be when an 1500mah or higher battery comes out
hi guys
im thinking of having the hero
jast a small Q
is the hero battery size is the same one as the touch HD battery size ???? (i didnt mean the capacity i mean the size of battery)
Aqrab said:
hi guys
im thinking of having the hero
jast a small Q
is the hero battery size is the same one as the touch HD battery size ???? (i didnt mean the capacity i mean the size of battery)
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No, its thinner but longer. The HD is Shorter but fatter.
One thing I would add about battery life, and that is that when on standby it is excellent.
My Hero came off charge yesterday at about 11am and essentially sat on my desk barely being touched for the rest off the day - a couple of phone calls, a text message, and a few emails. According to the meter on the phone status, I'm at 70%, which means I'd probably have no qualms picking it up and going out now without worrying too much about my battery life.
On my G1, I know that had I left the phone for 24 hours on standby, I'd probably be down to less than 25% by now.
Regards,
Dave
I have not had my Hero long enough to make much of a comment on battery life though I had nothing to complain about until this morning.
I went to bed with about half battery life indicated and I just left the phone. When I got up this morning it had low battery - very unexpected.
I left WiFi off but I have left most settings at their default which means that the phone will be auto syncing my Google account for instance. Can anyone. suggest anything that will help me?
Thanks
My phone has been off charge now for 48 hours, and although it has been idle most of that time, it is still showing 40% battery life - uptime is 50hr 47mins, and awake time only 2hrs 21mins.
Are you sure you weren't running something that would drain the power? Also, check to see if the phone is continually dropping from 3G to 2G and back again as this will drain power significantly.
Regards,
Dave
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My phone has been off charge now for 48 hours, and although it has been idle most of that time, it is still showing 40% battery life - uptime is 50hr 47mins, and awake time only 2hrs 21mins.
Are you sure you weren't running something that would drain the power? Also, check to see if the phone is continually dropping from 3G to 2G and back again as this will drain power significantly.
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Dave
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Well, to be honest, anything is possible! I dont have amazing reception at home but I still think that was unusual battery drain. Has your phone been constantly connected? I know mine is all the time because of the auto sync with Google.
I guess so - I'm getting 3 bars HSDPA where it is currently sitting, so I guess the 3G signal is sufficiently strong for it to stay on 3G.
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Dave
To save more power -
Goto 'settings' > Wireless controls > Mobile Network settings - then switch off 'enable always-on mobile' and if you can 'Data roaming'
You may have other apps that constantly check and refresh, change them to check at longer intervals - like twitter.
I can still browse internet and Market fine this way and battery time is extended.
Hi peeps
had my hero for about 1 month now this is second hand set and so far battery life is good about 2-3 days light use on idle i get 6-7days which i think is prtty good for what it dose on normal use i get 1-2 days
I'd suggest to charge the hero everyday. For Lithium-ion batteries it's best to keep them over 40% for a longer life-time. They don't suffer if you charge them very frequently.
And don't leave them off at 100% because that will have a negative effect on the life-time.
Hope that helps keeping your batteries in good shape
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I'd suggest to charge the hero everyday. For Lithium-ion batteries it's best to keep them over 40% for a longer life-time. They don't suffer if you charge them very frequently.
And don't leave them off at 100% because that will have a negative effect on the life-time.
Hope that helps keeping your batteries in good shape
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yeah it true its better to keep them topped up but for most people thats not alway possible. And in past i have let batterries go be low that and still got like 18months out of them
Wonder why but my HTC hero battery life not very good at all
doesnt last even a day with hardly any serious usage....maybe 30 mins wifi browsing, 30 mins phone browsing, less than 30 texts and maybe 10 mins call,
i had an app called battery status (full version) i wonder if this has been causing the problem....
its hard to effectively test the phone due to diff usage paterns ..any one had any prob with this particular app?
Update and FIX!
My phone is no longer draining massive amount of batt life when idle (3-5% after 7 hours of idle), android system usage is now down to 5-15% instead of 78-97% from before.
My fixes.
1. Turn off data syncing
2. Turn off wifi while on the road (so wifi doesn't constantly look for signals).
3. Clear memory
Yes, att installs a lot of bloatware that constantly update for changes.
If killing those services AND disabling data syncing doesn't help your problem, then you have a kernel problem (like myself).
If this is the case, do the following:
1. Take phone back to att and get a replacement
OR
2. Re-flash your android with the STOCK kernel found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
OR
3. Reflash with cognition x2 (reported to solve a member's problem, I didn't try this myself).
NOTE** This will root your phone, you will NOT get the exclamation mark during boot up, but kernel counter may be at "1" after this process.
Re-flashing my phone AND applying the three tricks I mentioned above worked for me..finally my phone is no longer crippled with crappy battery life and recharging is A LOT faster now.
I must be going crazy but this sg2 is killing me. I got it from Att yesterday and the battery life has been pretty HORRIBLE. (First time android user btw).
The phone will eat up 10% of my batter life after only 90 mins of idle. I checked the battery usage and Android OS is at around 78%!!! How do I fix this problem? I downloaded OS monitor and didn't really see anything that uses a lot of CPU, except for certain files syncing from time to time (but 2-3% usage usually).
Checked with battery spy and apparently the majority of the time, the phone was hovering around 200mhz 70% of the time and not deep sleep.
It's sad to have only 1.5 hours of display time with a battery of 45% left (7 hours total time)...coming from an Iphone 3gs, this is just unacceptable. I almost flashed to the 2.3.5 firmware but noticed it's NOT compatible with ATT's version of SG2.
I see people who have a total time of 2 days AND a screen time with 3 hours with 30% battery left. I wish I can get half that!
Running on 2.3.4, can't be the infamous drainage bug right? Thought that only happens with the 2.3.3s
Wifi on, application sync on, GPS off, brightness at 25%, using live wallpaper (the windmill). No active apps on. Downloaded aim, epocrates, battery monitor, cpu spy, and os monitor..rest of the apps are stock.
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According to my CPU spy
For the past hour that the phone was in idle
2:20mins at 1200mhz
4:52mins at 1000mhz
8:33 at 800mhz
1:28 at 500mhz
10:11 at 200mhz
33:36 in deep sleep
Currently Android CPU usage is @ 97%, display time of 7mins(2%)
2h 30mins since last charge (97% charge)..current power is 79%. Did nothing but idling and checking battery life.
So...that's 30 mins out of the hour in which my idling cellphone was hacking the pentagon....
Also the cellphone is a tiny bit warm to the touch (not cold)
I have 35% battery life remaining and have been unplugged for nearly 11 hours. This is significantly better than what I was getting with a Thunderbolt on Verizon, where I was needing to charge after about six hours of use. 11 hours and 35% remaining isn't the best in the world, but it's only been two days. The phone needs a few days to charge and discharge to determine true battery stats and will probably get better.
Being that this is your first Android battery life will not seem great but let it settle in for a few days it should get better.
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Used Nexus S, LG Thrill, Samsung Focus, Infuse, This is the best Android phone for battery. I have 40% left with normal use (emails, calls, music, read news) at the end of the day. Huraaaaa
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I must be going crazy but this sg2 is killing me. I got it from Att yesterday and the battery life has been pretty HORRIBLE. (First time android user btw).
The phone will eat up 10% of my batter life after only 90 mins of idle. I checked the battery usage and Android OS is at around 78%!!! How do I fix this problem? I downloaded OS monitor and didn't really see anything that uses a lot of CPU, except for certain files syncing from time to time (but 2-3% usage usually).
Checked with battery spy and apparently the majority of the time, the phone was hovering around 200mhz 70% of the time and not deep sleep.
It's sad to have only 1.5 hours of display time with a battery of 45% left (7 hours total time)...coming from an Iphone 3gs, this is just unacceptable. I almost flashed to the 2.3.5 firmware but noticed it's NOT compatible with ATT's version of SG2.
I see people who have a total time of 2 days AND a screen time with 3 hours with 30% battery left. I wish I can get half that!
Running on 2.3.4, can't be the infamous drainage bug right? Thought that only happens with the 2.3.3s
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If you only got the phone yesterday, its way to early to make any judgments on battery life. Battery needs at least 3-5 days to settle in and build consistent battery stats.
Also, what are you settings? Auto Brightness, Bluetooth, GPS, auto syn(exchange emal, gmail, facebook, etc). If your not using these, they should be OFF. It's easy to manually refresh email, etc.
I've seen some people reporting very high Android OS(over 50%) but still getting solid battery life.
I'm at 1hr display time, heavy texting. 72% left, been unplugged for 12hrs
no people what this guy is talking about is the android os bug. i have it too. hopefully an upgrade or different rom will fix it. my phone has been unplugged 11 hours with only 1 1/2 hour display but android os has ran for 52 minutes and now im at 32% battery life. once this bug gets worked out the battery life will be amazing.
I don't think that there is an android OS bug. My android OS shows as being 42% with 13hrs of moderate use and I am still at 67% battery remaining. This is by far the best battery use I have ever experienced on an android device! My cappy would not even come close to this performance and this is on stock ROM and kernel.
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I'm very happy with mine, this was the first total drain on a new battery so I know it will only get better.
Total time: 18hr 25min
Display time: 4hr 48min
I think it's the system os, not the hardware. There were a few times when the battery didn't discharge itself at 7%/hour (had it idle for 3 hours and it went down like 2%).
And yes, everything is turned off except the sync app data and wifi. There's no option to turn off 4g btw. It's just weird how sometimes it's in this mode of power drainage, and then sometimes it doesn't drain much..but most of the time, it's draining.
I seriously doubt the phone can only run 2.5 hours worth of heavy usage or 12 hours of standby (it should last days!). If this is "normal" for android, then maybe I should have a visit back to att and exchange for an iphone (and I really don't to!)
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I'm very happy with mine, this was the first total drain on a new battery so I know it will only get better.
Total time: 18hr 25min
Display time: 4hr 48min
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that is freakin incredible. i am gonna try a restore or something im down to 28% life. 1:40 display android os 1 hour.
can you please post the cpu total time in android os so i have an idea
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I don't think that there is an android OS bug. My android OS shows as being 42% with 13hrs of moderate use and I am still at 67% battery remaining. This is by far the best battery use I have ever experienced on an android device! My cappy would not even come close to this performance and this is on stock ROM and kernel.
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can you please post the cpu total time in android os so i have an idea
VFO said:
I don't think that there is an android OS bug. My android OS shows as being 42% with 13hrs of moderate use and I am still at 67% battery remaining. This is by far the best battery use I have ever experienced on an android device! My cappy would not even come close to this performance and this is on stock ROM and kernel.
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I agree - as I said in the Android OS drain thread, even in "good" situations, Android OS displays way high on our systems. I think it's a reporting bug.
I dropped 2% in 5.5 hours completely idle (sitting on my shelf) last night - Android OS was at over 60%. It seems that so far for me, the higher it is, the better my battery life is.
I drop around 15-20% in 9 hours of being mostly idle at my desk at work - it's a weak-signal location so the radio eats much more battery.
One thing is that unlike first-generation GalaxyS devices and interim ones like the Infuse, the GS2 has a coulomb-counter type of battery gauge. This type of gauge sometimes needs to be calibrated with multiple charge/discharge cycles or it will misreport battery state of charge. (However, when calibrated, it's much more accurate.)
Edit: I do have some power management tweaks in the kernel I'm running, but they don't make that much off a difference except in some high-drain corner cases in my experience. I'll be releasing it sometime later this week depending on how well these antibiotics do their job.
Do i need to install a battery app to see the percentage? or we have a way?
Install this app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15869868#post15869868
If you see "DataTracker-FD" or "Fast Dormancy" as the top wake lock, go into dialer
dial *#*#9900#*#*
disable Fast Dormancy (FD).
By default, the Samsung Galaxy S II has Fast Dormancy support enabled. One of the goals of Fast Dormancy is to increase the battery life of a device, by limiting the amount of signaling between the phone and the cell network. But, when Fast Dormancy it is not enabled in the network and is enabled on the phone it ironically works the other way around, and actually drains more battery than before.
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That applies to the I9100.
As far as I can tell, the I777 has FD disabled by default. (This may change once I9100 ROM ports start showing up)
Okay, charged my battery to 97%(I got a beep saying it's fully charged). Idled for the past 2 hours and 22 mins. Battery is at 86%.
According to the battery, my screen account for 2%, and the android system accounts for 97%.
This is a stock phone guys, I have no apps installed!
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One thing is that unlike first-generation GalaxyS devices and interim ones like the Infuse, the GS2 has a coulomb-counter type of battery gauge. This type of gauge sometimes needs to be calibrated with multiple charge/discharge cycles or it will misreport battery state of charge. (However, when calibrated, it's much more accurate.)
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How do you calibrate it?
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Do i need to install a battery app to see the percentage? or we have a way?
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Settings > About phone > Battery usage
WillEat4F00d said:
How do you calibrate it?
Settings > About phone > Battery usage
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I'm talking about live battery display. I installed no lock and have no lock screen to see how many % left.
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I'm talking about live battery display. I installed no lock and have no lock screen to see how many % left.
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Just search up "battery indicator" in the Market and you'll get a few to choose from.
I too got mine yesterday and started tinkering around with installing apps and such to test out all functions before I rooted it and move onto cm7 most likely. The 1 things I noticed was that the battery was NOT completely full when it was first turned on at the store so once it got a little lower after playing with it I charged it up overnight. Today the battery was WAY BETTER and was not dead yet. I have been using it NON STOP today, rebooting it, testing it, trying to root it, rebooting some more, some time using tango to test it out, watched a Netflix movie, pretty much taking full advantage of it all day. I finally decided to charge it up and use my Captivate a bit. I didn't keep track of usage and times today but I KNOW it lasted a WAY LONGER time with all I was doing with it than my Cappy. Tomorrow I will check more out possibly before putting on a rom.
So LOOOONNNNGGGG STORY short make sure you charge it up once you get it before messing with it too much and then it will LAST LONGER.
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After two nights of completely draining then recharging the battery to full, the battery has gotten significantly better. I'm trying to drain it again before I go to bed tonight but I don't think I'll make it.
I played the entirety of Toy Story 3 on max brightness, and only burned 20% of the battery!
Well, this question is for my lucky friends who have their new toys
Battery life is so good?
Post your test here!
Don't have screens for ya but battery life is more than adequate. My gf and I used it for about 5 hrs last night and it dropped to about 45%
(Games, xda, Netflix, and just tinkering around)
I'm curious what kind of battery life you folks are seeing, now that you all have had time to get some real world experience with the NT.
Thanks!
10 hours of continuous usage with 25% brightness.
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Yea, the battery life and responsiveness of the device is definitely top notch.
I'm pissed as hell the bootloader is locked, but this device is an absolute steal for $250 bucks. Especially if you can manage to discount that price down.
Extremely responsive and awesome battery life considering I'm running max brightness and wifi 24/7.
I'm always surprised when I'm done using the Nook that it was still running. Granted, I ran it until it had only had around 20% left. But hey, if your sitting in one spot using your nook for more than ten hours, then you need to find something else to do. ^_^
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... if your sitting in one spot using your nook for more than ten hours, then you need to find something else to do. ^_^
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Good book, nice day, under a tree? Done that many times just reading off my PDA.
Thanks for the feedback!
The battery life is definitely adequate.
I can usually go 2 day without charging thus far. I keep brightness at ~20% or so (I can't stand brighter, it actually bothers my eyes).
I also use multi-picture-live-wallpaper and it doesn't seem to drain my battery at all.
I do some pretty heavy use of it as I am reading on it and studying for med school for probably ~6 hours at a time
Battery life is great. BN's numbers seem dead on.
Lasted the flight from San Francisco to Sydney
I'm getting around 10 or so hours of use at 2/3 brightness. Battery life is amazing on this. I charged it last night. Took it off the charger at 10am didn't touch it till 10pm tonight. It was at 99 percent then. I think it turns off wifi when it's sleeping.
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I'm getting around 10 or so hours of use at 2/3 brightness. Battery life is amazing on this. I charged it last night. Took it off the charger at 10am didn't touch it till 10pm tonight. It was at 99 percent then. I think it turns off wifi when it's sleeping.
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Yeah, it definitely turns wifi off on its own when sleeping
Yeah Ill echo the comments here, battery life is absolutely superb and the responsiveness of the unit for the price is fantastic. Sadly its a case of if only B&N....to fully realize what the tablet would be capable of.
I have to agree that battery life is amazing on this thing.
I've got wifi turned off full time (to avoid updates from B&N) and the battery just seems to last forever. Granted you always use less battery when you're not going online, but still, it seems to really really last.
Frankly it's making my phone quite jealous.
Umm, my nt's battery isn't as impressive as i hoped. I use 25% brightness, wifi on, no fancy live wallpaper. I noticed for every few minutes of sjurfing, battery would drop a percentage or so. For usage of about 3hr withoit wifi, i would use up about 40 %.
Anything i could do to tune it up a bit? I do noticed amazon appstore is always running, so is clock, contact, tb, and my yahoo mail app. Any help is appreciated.
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Umm, my nt's battery isn't as impressive as i hoped. I use 25% brightness, wifi on, no fancy live wallpaper. I noticed for every few minutes of sjurfing, battery would drop a percentage or so. For usage of about 3hr withoit wifi, i would use up about 40 %.
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That sounds about what I'm getting and I'm wondering whether it's defective or not (still within return window).
edit: Probably normal - ran into some threads on B&N's boards where other people are averaging 5-7 hours. If I idle / read, I get about 1% every 8-10minutes or so so B&N's time estimates were definitely not "video," "browsing" or "games." Wifi on, installing or rebooting a few times, it drops to 5-6 hours tops between 100% and close to 0%.
My phone gets -way- more time, even reading.
the battery on this is great one of the biggest things going for it. better than my phone for sure.
For you guys with bad battery life, you might want to try better battery stats. Then check for partial wakelocks. That's usually the culprit on my phone. It seems weird some of you are getting half the battery life of the rest of us. Personally I haven't even turned wifi off at all, and also haven't turned my brightness below half.
It's in the google market, it won't show up on the nook. I downloaded it on my phone then used the app share my applications then back up to sd. Upload to dropbox. Then download it with dropbox on your nook.
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For you guys with bad battery life, you might want to try better battery stats.
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I looked at this (and other battery programs), but wasn't sure what they did. Now I sort of do. I'll check it out! Wifi on definitely uses up at least 20-25%ish extra battery, and I *have* been moving a ton of stuff to/from sd cards and uninstalling and rebooting a lot, but the above did seem very short. Too bad there isn't a battery hardware test
Failing those applications it may be worth doing a full reset; Especially since most other owners are reporting MUCH better results.
Before I start nuking things around, I used BetterBatteryStats, check for partial wakelocks, and the highest % is from ActivityManager-Launch, which occupies 0.3% or 5minutes or so since I fully charged it.
Also, i noticed "Wifi Locked" is extremely high, like 89%, whereas wifi On is only 26%. What does that mean?
I'm not fully versed in how Android handles power management. So what should i be looking out for? Thanks!
So I started a new thread cos its kind of different to my other one. The last little niggle with my Prime seems to be the battery. I read the instructions for once and it said to charge it all up. So i charged it till it was green and then powered it up for the first time. So as the instructions say i need to break the battery in. At the moment i am getting about 5-6 hours. The pad is on balanced with auto brightness. Does this seem normal for new battery. I would hope to end up with 9-10 or are my expeditions too high?
From what I remember the instructions stated that for the first time you should leave the prime charging for 6 to 8 hours. I personally didn't follow this and I'm still getting pretty good battery life. My advice is to let the battery drain out and charge it to full again and leave it connected for at least a couple of hours. The battery should calibrate itself through a couple of charge/discharge cycles and get better over time. Forgot to add, I have my wifi set to turn off when screen goes off.
If you're on firmware .21 it may be due to wifi. Check your battery stats. I have great battery life but as soon as i turn wifi on and use it battery goes down waaay fast.
I hope the new firmware thats coming adresses that, because before .21 that wasnt the case.
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So I started a new thread cos its kind of different to my other one. The last little niggle with my Prime seems to be the battery. I read the instructions for once and it said to charge it all up. So i charged it till it was green and then powered it up for the first time. So as the instructions say i need to break the battery in. At the moment i am getting about 5-6 hours. The pad is on balanced with auto brightness. Does this seem normal for new battery. I would hope to end up with 9-10 or are my expeditions too high?
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Lol i was too eager and only charged my prime until it reached 100% at a mall. But i still have great batterdy life
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People that didn't fully charge it up the first time for 6-8 hours, exactly what kind of life are you getting and could you please explain what things you are doing on it. I didn't charge it fully and it accidentally got turned on during its first charge.
Thanks,
If you are on .21 don't expect the battery to be near 8hrs while on wi-fi surfing/video/screen on/etc. I had it on .15 for 2-3 days while deciding if I wanted to root or not and it was near 8hrs wi-fi on. I'm also hoping for the next update to fix whatever they implemented in .21 that's causing a significant amount of drain.
I am on 4.0.3, is that the right one
Sorry, wi-fi is .22
Thr charging over night for 10 hours or whatever is nowadays just a Myth that came from the old NiCd batteries (It was true back in the day), new LiPo / NiMh batteries have no Memory Effect and the first charge is nowhere near as important as with old ones.
In fact is actually better not to stress the battery doing full discharges / charges cycles.
These batteries get to their full capacity after about 10 charging cycles.
So if you didnt not charge X hours for the first time, dont worry, yout battery ill work fine.
The only thing that should be pointed out is that if you use very often your battery, every 2 - 3 months is recommended to let the battery discharge to 0% and charge while off to 100%. If you dont use the battery often (always connected) then is better once every month. Thats to keep the internal chip from the battery calibrated.
Well atm i am draining it down to <10% then charging. Is it ok for these modern batteries to be left on charging past 100%?
Battery life still seems pretty poor after 3 0-100 ish charges. 1-2% seems to last less than 5 minutes when on the net on balanced mode and screen brightness mostly down.
mdemons12 said:
Well atm i am draining it down to <10% then charging. Is it ok for these modern batteries to be left on charging past 100%?
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Yes, once the batteries are at 100% they stop charging. You can have them 100000 hours connected.. and they wont go past 100%.
im on .21 and i get great battery life. i never cut my wifi off. its on 24/7. battery drainage will more so be dependent on display brightness and what you are doing. wifi is already a known, wifi on any device drains battery at a faster rate than wifi off. it takes power to make wifi work ya know..lol i can easily get 9-10hrs. + with my brightness set to less than 25% & wifi on all the time.
also the two biggest drainers, as far as programs go, is gaming and web surfing. especially web surfing and especially while using flash. since web browsing is very ram intensive. I've noticed some browsers drain battery faster than other. Meaning some browsers are more optimized than others when it comes to power consumption. This shouldn't be nothing new. Everyone's battery drainage will be different because people use their device in different ways.
we have an update about to hit us any moment or day now so don't get too stuck on battery drainage on .21. it'll be time to test how it is on newer firmware.
demandarin said:
also the two biggest drainers, as far as programs go, is gaming and web surfing. especially web surfing and especially while using flash. since web browsing is very ram intensive.
we have an update about to hit us any moment or day now so don't get too stuck on battery drainage on .21. it'll be time to test how it is on newer firmware.
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Web surfing and gaming and WiFi are 3 major things in this tablet, what should we use it for then??
here are some battery saving tips!
bimbobo said:
Web surfing and gaming and WiFi are 3 major things in this tablet, what should we use it for then??
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That's what I'm saying. Everyone web browsing and gaming is different. Some web pages people visit might be loaded with flash content vs. Someone who visits a site with less flash content. The one with the loaded flash content will drain or use more battery than the other one. Same with gaming. I might like to play Dead Space or Shadowgun and you like to play hang man or some other simple game. The battery will drain faster with me playing the 3d graphic intensive games vs. The person who is playing simple or less graphical intense games.
Wifi is a must have and no way around that if you want to web surf. The amount of screen brightness, 3D gaming, and web surfing will influence how fast your battery drains. Wifi drains battery but not at a faster rate than those other things listed.
I think some people here expect to have brightness up to the Max with super ips+ on, gaming and web surfing all day and expect to get 10+ hours out of it. Lol. Its not happening. There are easily things you can check for and change to make you have better battery life. -
-First one being not to use auto brightness and don't have brightness higher than 25%. That's if you so concerned about making the battery last long.
-Second thing you can do is go into settings and change screen off display settings. I have mines set to 30 or even 15 secs. That means once 15 secs. Or 30 secs. Pass and I haven't touched the screen, the screen will cut off. That's a huge battery saver right there. Because my screen isn't on as long when its not in use.
-Third would be to go into settings and lower the frequency of sync settings. I don't need my email syncing every 5mins. Or my Facebook syncing every 5 mins or etc.. cut them down to maybe every hrs, or every 12 hours, or once a day. The best would be to sync when you open up the app instead of it doing it automatically in the background. Completely cut off sync to apps you never use. Constantly having things sync in the background is a major battery drainer when the screen is on or even while device is sleeping. If you put device to sleep and its always waking up to sync data, don't be surprised if battery drains at a faster rate during sleep or when device is awake.
-Fourth, cut of unneccessary sounds. Do you really need the keyboard or screen presses to make a sound when you press it? If so, don't be surprised your battery draining faster.
-Fifth, cut off that stupid vibration motor. Do you really need your tablet to vibrate when ever you press something on the screen or keyboard? Do you really need it to vibrate when your gaming? If so, don't be surprised your battery is draining faster then. Because everytime that vibrate motor goes off, it drains battery.
SIXTH, you can go into settings and have wifi cut off when device is asleep. Or you can go into Asus customized settings and have it cut off network activities when the screen is off or device is asleep.
All very easy steps people can take. Same thing as in saving gas in a car. There's things you can do or not do to make it last longer.
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So I started a new thread cos its kind of different to my other one. The last little niggle with my Prime seems to be the battery. I read the instructions for once and it said to charge it all up. So i charged it till it was green and then powered it up for the first time. So as the instructions say i need to break the battery in. At the moment i am getting about 5-6 hours. The pad is on balanced with auto brightness. Does this seem normal for new battery. I would hope to end up with 9-10 or are my expeditions too high?
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Its Def the firmware Asus should fix it soon hopefully
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It does seem to be getting better though. I have had it on for over a day now and it is at 50%. Probably had a good 3ish hours of actual use. During the breaking in of the battery stage is it better to let it drain then fully charge or charge whenever I can?
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im on .21 and i get great battery life. i never cut my wifi off. its on 24/7. battery drainage will more so be dependent on display brightness and what you are doing. wifi is already a known, wifi on any device drains battery at a faster rate than wifi off. it takes power to make wifi work ya know..lol i can easily get 9-10hrs. + with my brightness set to less than 25% & wifi on all the time.
also the two biggest drainers, as far as programs go, is gaming and web surfing. especially web surfing and especially while using flash. since web browsing is very ram intensive. I've noticed some browsers drain battery faster than other. Meaning some browsers are more optimized than others when it comes to power consumption. This shouldn't be nothing new. Everyone's battery drainage will be different because people use their device in different ways.
we have an update about to hit us any moment or day now so don't get too stuck on battery drainage on .21. it'll be time to test how it is on newer firmware.
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Well hopefully after a few charges I will make my way unto that region, I think it has climbed though to a closer to 6-6.5.
So how about the battery in the Lumia 920.
After the Lumia 800 failed in this area it would be great to know if the 2000mA battery is big enough for this whole Thing
Oberoth said:
So how about the battery in the Lumia 920.
After the Lumia 800 failed in this area it would be great to know if the 2000mA battery is big enough for this whole Thing
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I've been using it for half a week now and battery is phenomenal even in LTE all the time. Will last you a full day off not a day and a half with moderate use. Full day heavy use probably.
You have nothing to worry about this time. Nokia got it right.
More details here: http://forums.wpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=200158
Mine sucks right now. I'm just using it for normal email updates and a few downloads from the app store and it'll be on 40% by 4-5pm. I've turned off a lot of the background updates on the live tiles too, but it's not making a difference.
Screen on time is disappointing.
Mine has excellent battery life. 2 days on a row on my last charge.
Ppl with battery life problems, I would suggest to visit the Nokia support forum.
Important
If you disable NFC (tap+send in settings) you have a HUGE improvement in battery life.
As mentioned above, disabling NFC and background apps will greatly improve battery life. I am more than satisfied.
I leave my data connection on 2G most of the day and it seems make the phone last all day, with heavy use. If I really need the faster connection I switch it to 3G. This seems to work for me
Full day, 3G use (using on a 3G only carrier, no LTE unfortunately). Moderate-to-heavy usage, not a problem getting back home, chilling on the sofa, doing what not, and having enough battery to last until bed time. FYI my day starts around 8-9 and I head to bed around 11ish+.
I hear battery life isn't as good when NFC is on. Don't know though, I never have NFC on anyways (really don't see how useful it is atm).
Battery saving Tips
This battery saving tip has been overlooked since WP7 first generation devices. The reason why some ppl will be having huge battery drain is due to apps running in the background. So, you need to think about the apps that you actually need to run in the background. Make sure all your email accounts are on the highest interval time to be checked and/or "as the item arrives". When you select as the item arrives I believe true push is being used which if you don't receive tons of emails will save battery in the end. The other apps settings are located here start screen>settings>swipe over to applications>background tasks>and block all apps that you can that don't need to be running background tasks. I for instance only have accuWeather app running background tasks. Another thing is you need to be aware of apps power usage...i noticed that accuWeather is far better at using less power consumption than the Weather channel app. Other tips are common knowledge. Disable NFC, use WIFI when available, turn off high sensitivity if you're not needing it, use low time-out for shutting off display and use low brightness. Be efficient!!
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Lasts me about 1hr for each 10% increment. About the same i was getting with the S3. While playing music its battery life seems to last longer than leaving it on standby :S Find standby kills battery some reason, just recently turned of nokia drive background app, hopefully that makes it last longer
Battery life has been excellent for me. Mine was fully charged on Wednesday morning @ 8 AM and was at 48% when I put it on the charger Thursday @ 2 PM with moderate uses. Unexpectedly, the battery life is much better while on the LTE network than when I'm using my SIM card not registered for LTE usage. Standby drain is very very good.
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Lasts me about 1hr for each 10% increment. About the same i was getting with the S3. While playing music its battery life seems to last longer than leaving it on standby :S Find standby kills battery some reason, just recently turned of nokia drive background app, hopefully that makes it last longer
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That's because WiFi stays connected when you're streaming music, whereas WiFi disconnects when on standby. Known windows issue that should be addressed by ms soon.
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I get great battery life unless I enter into an LTE area. When I do, my phone gets VERY hot and the battery runs down in a few hours. Even if I'm not doing ANYTHING with the phone. Strange...
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I leave my data connection on 2G most of the day and it seems make the phone last all day, with heavy use. If I really need the faster connection I switch it to 3G. This seems to work for me
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How do you switch the 920 to 2g mode? I only have 3g and 4g in the options on max speed? my old lg wp let me set either 2g or 3g, huge difference in battery life on that devic.
to be honest tho so far i'm impressed easily outlasts my old phone, just tried turning off the high sensitivity on the touch to see if it makes a difference.
also run down the phone till it turned itself off last night, tried turning it on got the warning icon of low battery, did it again then it started, data connectino wouldn't work battery said 0% remaining and it lasted just under half hour with me playing mirrors edge, makes me wonder how accurate the battery % is
Battery capacity seems to have been cut in half!
When I first got the 920, at 100% the estimated battery life would say 1 day and X hours. Now (2 weeks later) when my battery is at 100%, it now says 13-14 hours of estimated life. My battery also drains much faster now than it did in the first week of owning the 920. My use of the phone has not changed over the last two weeks. I'm always in an LTE area, WiFi on and I use bluetooth from time to time. Is this an issue that other people are experiencing?
I'm trying to figure out if I need to exchange my 920. Any help or advice is much appreciated. Thanks!
i found it was using 2% battery every hour whilst connected to a data connection - but not syncing anything, all backround tasks turned off. This seems a bit mental.
So it seems that battery isn't so good :/ Too bad because i was wondering to buy this phone.
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chizzwhizz said:
Battery capacity seems to have been cut in half!
When I first got the 920, at 100% the estimated battery life would say 1 day and X hours. Now (2 weeks later) when my battery is at 100%, it now says 13-14 hours of estimated life. My battery also drains much faster now than it did in the first week of owning the 920. My use of the phone has not changed over the last two weeks. I'm always in an LTE area, WiFi on and I use bluetooth from time to time. Is this an issue that other people are experiencing?
I'm trying to figure out if I need to exchange my 920. Any help or advice is much appreciated. Thanks!
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After deep cycling the battery, I am back to the correct reading. I am now losing a little less than 1% of battery life per hour on standby!