hi.
I just wanna know if someone here had see something about the ps3 jailbreak usb with the HD2?
It s running on some android phones, Iphone, nokia... but nothing for Windows phone?
But i found a list on psFreedom.com. there s a Device compatibility list. And in this list There s the HTC HD2 (Android) : in progress!!!
It will be very nice if the PsFreedom works without android... A windows phone hacks a sony PS3.
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wait n see...
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8032122&postcount=791
In Progress
In short for HD2: In Progress (But need android for it to run)
can someone please enlighten me as to what the hell this is all about....
I know what the ps3 jailbreak does but what relevance does that have to the hd2 or any other device...............much confusion.........surely we're not talkin about emulation are we
There is now a way to play backed up ps3 games and people are developing ways to do it on different devices. See here for more detail psx-scene.com the htc desire is one of the lastest devices that can do it
HTCHD2ireland said:
There is now a way to play backed up ps3 games and people are developing ways to do it on different devices. See here for more detail psx-scene.com the htc desire is one of the lastest devices that can do it
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and whats wrong with a medium capacity usb flash drive that can be picked up from many good online retailers for less then £5? Why on earth would you want to put your phone anywhere near your ps3? considering that sony will be working on a way to stop the "jailbreak" (what a stupid term anyway. It's a proper hack, done the good ol' fashioned way). You should think yourselves lucky. I remember when if you wanted to play your illegally downloaded games on an xbox or psx you had to get the soldering irons, spend a lot of money on addon chips and hope you had a steady enough hand not to brick your £300 games console but that's what you going to do isn't it? playing illegally downloaded games - probably on your mates ps3 - and your too cheap to buy a usb flash drive and would rather risk letting sony find a way to brick your phone for having the hack saved on it.
Young Sir, you are very foolish. Firstly, you are actually breaking forum rules and secondly your gonna risk your very expensive, frankly awesome smartphone on what i can only describe as a folly.
I will leave you with this thought, though. If you are intent on breaking the law, spend some money on a proper gaming spec pc. At least then no one will be able to make it stop working just because you did what YOU wanted to do with it, instead of doing what the manufacturer wants you to do with it and plus, i'm sure mommy won't mind
this exploit is very interesting for the homebrews, the développement of app... Like the PSP, I buy games but i prefere custom firmware. With him i can do more than a psp with official firmware...
And "secondly your gonna risk your very expensive, frankly awesome smartphone on what i can only describe as a folly." When you do a hspl and whan you flash your phone and you install a new rom... it s not a folly?
sorry for my english...
lol im getting more and more confused now.......
I cant tell whether people are claiming they can emulate the ps3 on the hd2........
(which seems pretty bloody unlikely to me)
Or simply use the hd2 instead of a flash drive to store this alleged "jailbreak" and deploy it to the ps3......
If its the second one............ why the hell would you not just use a flash drive..??
Im not getting into the issues around whether its right to hack your ps3 or not...
Although I certainly wont be risking bricking mine...........
I remember back in the "good old days" of soldering irons..... it was called chipping...... makes me feel old........... and confused
I'll be pissing myself and eating through a tube before long...........
At least I'll have a working phone and ps3 though..
lol! i love it when i'm right!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-11213618
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lol!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-11213618
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So people just want to dl this "jailbreak" onto their hd2 to save on the price of a 4.99 usb stick
Oh well..... get ready for a flood of....... psgroove bricked my hd2 HELP!!!!! type threads......
Safety first Kiddies.........
Just to clarify. The link i posted is confirmation that as of right now the hacks will not work at all if you update your ps3 with the latest security patch and i'm willing to bet a lot of people have blindly done it already, and rightly so, but i do sincerley suspect that is only the first step and there *may* just be a further update that *may* cause data loss or damage to any flash based device that is plugged into the ps3. TBH i really won't put it passed sony to do something like that in an attempt to protect their intellectual property.
Its fair enough as far as im concerned......... you hack it, you risk it.....
the ps3 hasnt exactly been sony's most profitable product so they're bound to try and protect it by any means possible..........
Thanks for clearing that up for me man......
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Its fair enough as far as im concerned......... you hack it, you risk it.....
the ps3 hasnt exactly been sony's most profitable product so they're bound to try and protect it by any means possible..........
Thanks for clearing that up for me man......
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No worries. I've been chuckling my way round the office since i saw that. Lucky prediction or what?
To the OP,
Flashing my phone with a new boot loader and a microsoft approved operating system is by no means a folly as it is reversible. Sony bricking your top of the line smartphone because you broke their terms and conditions, the law - in pretty much every developed country there is - is very much a folly.
To be sure you understand, folly means the following:
A lack of good sense, understanding, or foresight.
An act or instance of foolishness: regretted the follies of his youth.
A costly undertaking having an absurd or ruinous outcome.
Sorry if that seemed condesending but i'm just trying to make sure you get my point. I would say it's not worth the risk (oh, wait, i did) but now it's impossible so the thread is dead
hmmm. If i posted this question here, it s to know if someone here s working on this exploit. it s a challenge... a lot s of good devs do it on Iphone, Android phone, texas instrument, nokia phone, palm phone...
With this exploit we will don t brik a ps3 or a phone or a phone... maybe we can have our psn acount banned... So it s our problem. ^^
hack digitals gadget isn t to have free games... it s for have MORE possibilitys!
homebrews, movies on MKV, retrocompatibility.... etc etc...
If i do a ps3 jailbreak, i assum it... I m an adult, and a father too. ^^
I just tried to know, why the others scenes (iphone, android, symbian...) are more exciting about this...
Sorry if that seemed condesending but i'm just trying to make sure you get my point. I would say it's worth the risk . but now it's always possible. My ps3 is always on the last firmware...
MathieuLH said : don t upgrade your PS3.
^^
héhéhé
Insanity is a matter of perspective: if you think I'm crazy for me to know that the world is crazy...
Seems that THE hd2 Port is finished...
I'm a little confused about this jailbreak thing for the PS3.
Once I jailbreak the PS3 using the HD2 do I ever have to connect it to the PS3 again?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777120
héhéhé
i didn t try it... maybe this Week End.
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and whats wrong with a medium capacity usb flash drive that can be picked up from many good online retailers for less then £5? Why on earth would you want to put your phone anywhere near your ps3? considering that sony will be working on a way to stop the "jailbreak" (what a stupid term anyway. It's a proper hack, done the good ol' fashioned way). You should think yourselves lucky. I remember when if you wanted to play your illegally downloaded games on an xbox or psx you had to get the soldering irons, spend a lot of money on addon chips and hope you had a steady enough hand not to brick your £300 games console but that's what you going to do isn't it? playing illegally downloaded games - probably on your mates ps3 - and your too cheap to buy a usb flash drive and would rather risk letting sony find a way to brick your phone for having the hack saved on it.
Young Sir, you are very foolish. Firstly, you are actually breaking forum rules and secondly your gonna risk your very expensive, frankly awesome smartphone on what i can only describe as a folly.
I will leave you with this thought, though. If you are intent on breaking the law, spend some money on a proper gaming spec pc. At least then no one will be able to make it stop working just because you did what YOU wanted to do with it, instead of doing what the manufacturer wants you to do with it and plus, i'm sure mommy won't mind
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Were you having a bad day? I never said I was going to use my Hd2 to do this did I? I have no interest in hacking my ps3 because I only play a couple of games and always online so I have no intention of hacking it, but you jump in with two feet and made your presumptions. Your 'my mommy won't mind' comment is a cheap childish attempt to antagonise. Yawn
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Sony bricking your top of the line smartphone because you broke their terms and conditions, the law - in pretty much every developed country there is - is very much a folly.
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Yes breaking the law is not a very good or acceptable thing to do and I advice against it. But at the same time a company intentionally damaging someone private property is not acceptable at all and should be looked down on in the same manner.
I know it is a old thread but just had to say that.
Peace
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HI,
realise the pocket pc software are quite expensive... Anyone want to share their license copy, games, utility etc. I guess all can benefit right?... Rather we all purchase on our own.
Or may be we can all chip in to buy.... We can use services like Paypal to remittance money to each other.
Me interested in the Age of Empires Gold Edition. Anyone got a full license one. Nyditot Virtual Display 3.01 ?...
Warezzzz
I'm just speaking for myself here...
I have no major moral objections against copying copyrighted software, but I can also see the point of software companies trying to make a buck. I even co-own a small software company that will be trying to make a buck soon. But please believe me when I say that this is not the reason I'm posting this message.
I would hate to see warez being traded on this system. I've seen what frequent warez trading does to the atmosphere of communities like ours. Before long, professional traders will post requests. People will offer to pay for stuff, warez ftp server addresses 'for-the-day' will be posted, etc. etc. etc.
There's plenty of good forums on Usenet that have plenty of (alt.binaries.)warez posted to them. They have much less good productive atmosphere to waste and they work well.
Omigosh...
Well I don't think warezing software is something terribly wrong (it's not a theft usually), but if somebody likes the software, he should buy it. However, nobody can expect a 18 year old czech student to spend 80 bucks for SSH client he uses once a week.
I think those who use software to make money (companies, managers etc...) should buy the software. Those who just "play" with software and install and deinstall applications 5 times a day can get a warez copy. But if I find a great piece of soft I want to keep (forever), I buy it.
(I don't buy software, I'm a poor student and the software fee doesn't repay itself).
And another thing... I would never trade software here - in public, in a tech forum with guest access...
If you can afford an XDA and the phone contracts that go with it, you can afford the software - most programs are only 10-15 USD. A few like AoE are more, and I can tell you worth the extra money.
Regards
Tim
Basically, i find it rather amusing the comments given. Anyway, my intention is not to spread the so called 'piracy'. The intention was to share files with your so called neighhours. If you think my sharing for example DVD - THe spider man to let the neighhour watch or use, then the whole world must be pracitising that, even your neighhouhood video store is spread 'piracy'. I mean people can always rent it and duplicate at their home right?......
Furthmore, forum is more less like a obtaining information, sharing etc. That's why I use the words like sharing. Wanna to charge those sharing information. If you think this kind actions is bad, I think this forum shall stop hacking the XDA stuff..
I got my new 02 XDA 64MB at US$500 only.... Spend so much $$$ on electronic stuff for what?........ Earniing money is not an easy task. and for you info only a few program is US$10/= Most are more that U$20/=. IF you get 10 how much will it be, and the money is only for 1 version. don;t forget the accessories thats comes with it. If you think u have extra $$$ to spend on this software. Share with it someone who is not as rich as u.
there is loads of free stuff out there if you want it a forum like this is brillant for info but there is a wide range of others out there
My two cents in what seems to become a long thread.
First to answer mac's orignal question. I can't help you (currently :lol: )
In response to XDA developer Peter Poelman's response I want to submit that in order to keep this forum alive we certainly don't need the professional traders.
As for software licensing. I have been/am on both sides. User and author. It's annoying if people just copy whatever they like, especially if they make a lot of money with it.
My justification so far has been. I use 'evaluation copies' for 2 or 3 weeks or so and if it is still in use I buy the software. Is it legal? Probably not? Is this wrong? Probably yes, but I can sleep at night.
We all invent 'our rules' for the world. If you want to be safe, stick with the rules. If not just be prepared to have your [email protected]# kicked every now and then.
Although I sympathise with the argument of being a student, etc etc, that doesn't justify it (nor do my own 'rules' do that). What would you charge someone with 5 children and being a single parent?
And most of the times there are alternatives. For instance in the windows space there is a lot of free software around and some of them are real jewels. If you are curious: www.nonags.com.
Industry responds with free software containing banners and adds, we all hate them, install cracks/patches to get rid of them. Wake up guys. They give it away for free and still we whine. (yes, I hate adds and banners to and I kill them whenever possible). I think we shouldn't whine about initiatives like Palladium if we copying everything we can get our hands on.
Overall my advise is: don't use THIS forum for conducting that behaviour and for the rest live and let live. In my opinion its a forum for undertanding the XDA and its technology. I don't even have one yet ( :evil: ) but I have learned a lot already. One could argue about some of the things tht could be done with the XDA (un-simlocking of accidently locked phones) but it's mainly discussing the device, software and accessoiries.
Being nosy is not a crime.
Having knowledge is not a crime.
But using knowledge could be a crime.
And even the first 2 can be a crime depending on where you live.
Pfffffffffft, I must be PMS'ing. Sorry people :wink:
Robert
I think games should be paid for....
but as far as tools etc goes I think it would be fair to follow the GPL...
You pay for what you make money with.
I'm a frequent visitor to alt.binaries....pocketpc and I've probaly downloaded 700mb or so in pocketpc warez since I bought my XDA...
I have an easynews account which archives newsgroup posts from the last 30 days.
That software I downloaded because I thought it looked interesting; not because it was there. Out of those god knows how many programs I have 12 programs that I keep on my xda at all times... these I have registered:
Battery Pack 2003 <<< really good
Resco Explorer 2003
Lextionary <<< prolly the best dictionary tool
Snails
Marble Worlds
Diamond Mine <<< addictive as hell
Speedball 2 << we love the Amiga !!
Pocket C64 <speaks for itself>
Dockware
Small menu <<< damn good btw
Rhinostats
Truefax
The others I played with for a while and then dumped because they were errr CRAP ? or there were other better alternatives (atleast in the power monitoring area)
Diamond mine I downloaded months ago... and only registered yesterday.
I dont believe in buying stuff I dont need.. and downloading them gives me more time to decide whither I'm going to keep it... or fire it onto a DVDRW and forget about it after a month.
I also have a wares copy of Autocad Studio Max 5 on my computer... $5k to buy in the shops...
most people dont learn this program at Uni (atleast the good ones anyways). Most of them pick up a copy when they are in their early teens and continue to learn with it till they master the techniques. After doing so they go to Uni and get the bit of paper... later on they get a job with a company which has bought a license to the application.
Autocad arent missing out on my license... I'd have never considering paying the $5,000 in the first place.
Some people say that 3D Animation is a craft. I've known people who have been 'learning' it for the past 7 years. Where would Autocad get its budding new business licenses if the 3D warez market dried up and only the large software houses could afford them?
Games are different, you cant make money from them.
I bought StarScape the other day for the PC.
http://www.moonpod.com/English/about_ss.php
download the demo and give it a go
I normaly run games in 1600x1200 or above... but the fact this runs in 640x480 makes no difference.
You might also want to check this site out for some more quality game play... and best of all they are free 8)
http://www.tierraentertainment.com/ (reworked kings Quest I&II)
http://www.back2roots.org/ (shtuff from eons ago)
games from the era of when gaming had gameplay, hand drawn graphics and not just a billion polygons fired at it.
Strange comment from a 3D artist.
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hi mac
try bear share there is loads of software on there i dont think we should trade games on here i used to use another site for my nokia communicator and it started to trade software and now it gives very little free and has turned into a business venture about selling software and not the product which it was originally meant to help promote amongst fellow users
Well, we'll be relasing a game soon aswell and i would like to think that if people download the demo and they are happy with it, that they would then go on to buy the full version. Its not like the average pocket pc game costs a fortune.
The way I look at it is if people dont buy software, people will stop writing it, I have purchased many games/apps, and am glad i supported the writers of such software. As a result newer and better versions are released, i prime example is Battery Bar along with Journal Bar, fantastic bit of software.
might get lucky with a unloaked leak
What leak? Where? Sniper?
Anyone look at it yet
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where's the leak?
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In the development section.
we sound like a bunch of crack fiends lookin for a rock. lol
he did say new leak... the ones in development are a few days old and oldish news.
pretty sure its the international version. its on 911sniper
yea, just saw it now. must have posted right as i left development section.
is it "loaked" ?
lol
omg please say it isnt
Even if/when we get an unlocked leak (which I am absolutely confidant we will get an "accidental" leak top shut us up) there is a good chance that these leaks will start drying up. By time the Evo4D5G comes out next year we won't even expect a phone to not be crypto-signed.
If they don't do this 'officially', and out loud in public then we have absolutely no guarantees that they ever will...and probably will not.
Unfortunately doing it out loud and in public is the _last_ thing they want to do. They want to bend to our demands even less than they want to lock damned phones. I'm pretty convinced that this is due to a back-room deal to get things like Netflix and GoogleMovies and Blockbuster approved by the MPAAs of the world.
...I'm still not sure--aside from tether--what locking up a phone will actually prevent that will save or make them money besides extending the useful life of the devices......but the thing is that those of us who know how to do these things in the first place are also the early-adopter crowd who will pay top price and wait in line at 4am to get a device that doesn't have all the bugs shaken out of it yet.....My mom, my brother, most people I work with...most people on the planet--who do not know nor care about rooting and custom roms--are the ones who will keep these phones as long as possible anyway...with or without upgrading the rom...if they could just click-n-upgrade to CM7 or whatever....well, that'd be a different story...they wouldn't upgrade till the phone caught fire....but these people wouldn't know or care to learn how to do this anyway....
...so they lock *US* out of the phone, we don't buy them....they lose those sales...or they don't lock us out, we buy them, root them, upgrade them, and then line up to be the first to buy the next device....win win, right? I just don't get it....are they scared of '1 click upgrades' being developed for everyone to use? I doubt that....there are plenty of 1-click-root procedures and ROManager anuyway....that's 80% of the way there....and nobody does that anyway...I just don't get it, wtf are they locking out (or in)??? I don't see how this benefits anyone....is it only about tether? cuz I could just just as much data listening to pandora all month as I could downloading a movie tethered to my tablet or whatever....
I just don't get it.
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Even if/when we get an unlocked leak (which I am absolutely confidant we will get an "accidental" leak top shut us up) there is a good chance that these leaks will start drying up. By time the Evo4D5G comes out next year we won't even expect a phone to not be crypto-signed.
If they don't do this 'officially', and out loud in public then we have absolutely no guarantees that they ever will...and probably will not.
Unfortunately doing it out loud and in public is the _last_ thing they want to do. They want to bend to our demands even less than they want to lock damned phones. I'm pretty convinced that this is due to a back-room deal to get things like Netflix and GoogleMovies and Blockbuster approved by the MPAAs of the world.
...I'm still not sure--aside from tether--what locking up a phone will actually prevent that will save or make them money besides extending the useful life of the devices......but the thing is that those of us who know how to do these things in the first place are also the early-adopter crowd who will pay top price and wait in line at 4am to get a device that doesn't have all the bugs shaken out of it yet.....My mom, my brother, most people I work with...most people on the planet--who do not know nor care about rooting and custom roms--are the ones who will keep these phones as long as possible anyway...with or without upgrading the rom...if they could just click-n-upgrade to CM7 or whatever....well, that'd be a different story...they wouldn't upgrade till the phone caught fire....but these people wouldn't know or care to learn how to do this anyway....
...so they lock *US* out of the phone, we don't buy them....they lose those sales...or they don't lock us out, we buy them, root them, upgrade them, and then line up to be the first to buy the next device....win win, right? I just don't get it....are they scared of '1 click upgrades' being developed for everyone to use? I doubt that....there are plenty of 1-click-root procedures and ROManager anuyway....that's 80% of the way there....and nobody does that anyway...I just don't get it, wtf are they locking out (or in)??? I don't see how this benefits anyone....is it only about tether? cuz I could just just as much data listening to pandora all month as I could downloading a movie tethered to my tablet or whatever....
I just don't get it.
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I think you hit on a couple points here, but really I think what happened has to do with HTC Watch (their own mobile movie rental service) and the contracts they're signing with studios to provide more on-demand content.
Movie/Music/Game studios probably won't allow anyone to distribute their copy-written content without extreme steps to assure them that the manufacturer is doing everything they can to avoid piracy/illegal downloading &/or access.
I'm willing to bet that bootloader and partition encryption is something they've gone the length of assuring these companies so to be able to provide on-demand content as a revenue generating service. If it's in contracts, then we're screwed.
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I think you hit on a couple points here, but really I think what happened has to do with HTC Watch (their own mobile movie rental service) and the contracts they're signing with studios to provide more on-demand content.
Movie/Music/Game studios probably won't allow anyone to distribute their copy-written content without extreme steps to assure them that the manufacturer is doing everything they can to avoid piracy/illegal downloading &/or access.
I'm willing to bet that bootloader and partition encryption is something they've gone the length of assuring these companies so to be able to provide on-demand content as a revenue generating service. If it's in contracts, then we're screwed.
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couldn't we just use the mirroring hdmi thing to a tv and then from there use a recorder to copy the movie over. I mean i am just wondering if that's possible and if it is it just means that no matter what you try to do from people stealing content, people will just figure out a way to do it.
It's a streaming service.
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It's a streaming service.
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i uderstand that's its streaming but if we streamed it from the phone to th tv which had a recorder hooked up to it couldn't we just copy that stream?
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i uderstand that's its streaming but if we streamed it from the phone to th tv which had a recorder hooked up to it couldn't we just copy that stream?
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I'm willing to bet the streaming service won't support HDMI mirroring
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i uderstand that's its streaming but if we streamed it from the phone to th tv which had a recorder hooked up to it couldn't we just copy that stream?
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Have you not heard oh HDCP?
The Evo will go blank if you try to hook it up to a receiver and not direct to tv. I ment future phones.
Comcast cable already does this with the new boxes.
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I agree but at the same time that would make it kind of pointless for me. Honestly, I could never see myself sitting down for an entire movie on my phone. Hopefully that is not the case.
that would be dumb if it didn't. I can't stand watching a movie on my phone let alone pay for it just to be seen on a 4 inch screen
ajs421 said:
I think you hit on a couple points here, but really I think what happened has to do with HTC Watch (their own mobile movie rental service) and the contracts they're signing with studios to provide more on-demand content.
Movie/Music/Game studios probably won't allow anyone to distribute their copy-written content without extreme steps to assure them that the manufacturer is doing everything they can to avoid piracy/illegal downloading &/or access.
I'm willing to bet that bootloader and partition encryption is something they've gone the length of assuring these companies so to be able to provide on-demand content as a revenue generating service. If it's in contracts, then we're screwed.
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I hadn't even heard of HTC Watch up until this post. I'm absolutely convinced 100% that this is the smoking gun in the matter of "why?"
Now, if that is the case they will NEVER be able to officially unlock these phones without violating these contracts. We can only hope for leaks...and to be honest, I've never seen so much internal development software leaked by any other company in my life so reliably. Sure, there have been companies with bigger leaks or more leaks but never with such reliability....OTA's before they go OTA, eng h-boots, test versions, etc etc etc, it is absolutely ludicrous. I have a hard time thinking that it is entirely accidental or just one rogue guy who hasn't been identified and fired....repeatedly.
But will the ferocity of these contracts undermine even these leaks?
Why don't they just super-encrypt a 'trusted pipeline' in the phone once you unlock the phone you permanently disable the ability of that pipeline to ever operate ever again? I'm all for that. Pump your locked-down content through that pipeline...I don't care if I never open that pipe up ever again.
HTC's gotta come up with something or this is it for all of us I'm sure. I checked out the NexusS4G...nice phone, feels cheap but then again maybe I'm just used to lugging around this monster sized and weighted Evo. Screen looked nice, bone-stock android was a pleasure to see. Though I'll wait for the Nexus3, or whatever they call it. Sure to be dual core by then....
I guess I'll just get Nexus' for life...this is all bull**** and totally not worth the worry now that I really look at it. They don't want customers 'like us' apparently, Samsung/Google do. 3D is a gimmick anyway. Just give me dual cores and all of the standard features with a 4 point something screen. After the 30fps debacle last year I swore that I wouldn't buy an HTC again...but forgot all about their horrible attitude cuz it got fixed here and they used the code in an OTA. That even gave me faith in them...like the Open Source system is working exactly as intended...but....take and take and take and never give back.....HTC? Never again.
Believe it or not, this is my first smartphone due to the fact I am on a family plan and got free service and didn't want to have my own phone bill. I was given the radar as a gift, but I'm not sure it's for me. I have read a little about the windows phone OS, and it does look promising and I like the phone and features.
The problem is that I don't have a lot to spend on apps. I know there are lots of good free apps for android, but I hear this is a growing platform.
Is this a good phone for my first smartphone? I pick up tech very quickly, I just dumped most of my cash into a new pc build for xmas, so I will be pretty broke. I also hear you can't "jailbreak" (or equivalent) windows phone yet.
I'm sure if I got an android I would try the android equivalent (a ROM I suppose). Is that what I need to do to get apps and games on a non-existent budget? It will cost me 50$ for restocking fee, so if windows phone is worth sticking with, I would love to hear any opinions why and how I can get the apps I need (don't need specifics, just know that it can be done easily).
Thanks in advance, I am reading up on windows phone and android, I just would like advice about my particular situation.
pattamus said:
Believe it or not, this is my first smartphone due to the fact I am on a family plan and got free service and didn't want to have my own phone bill. I was given the radar as a gift, but I'm not sure it's for me. I have read a little about the windows phone OS, and it does look promising and I like the phone and features.
The problem is that I don't have a lot to spend on apps. I know there are lots of good free apps for android, but I hear this is a growing platform.
Is this a good phone for my first smartphone? I pick up tech very quickly, I just dumped most of my cash into a new pc build for xmas, so I will be pretty broke. I also hear you can't "jailbreak" (or equivalent) windows phone yet.
I'm sure if I got an android I would try the android equivalent (a ROM I suppose). Is that what I need to do to get apps and games on a non-existent budget? It will cost me 50$ for restocking fee, so if windows phone is worth sticking with, I would love to hear any opinions why and how I can get the apps I need (don't need specifics, just know that it can be done easily).
Thanks in advance, I am reading up on windows phone and android, I just would like advice about my particular situation.
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It sounds like you're asking fir help in obtaining paid apps for free, which XDA has strict rules prohibiting any discussion, or help in this area. Having said that, most paid apps on Android market have free versions with ads. I'm not a huge fan of Windows phones, but it wouldn't hurt to play around with it for a few days to see if you like it. Because you have no experience with smartphones, the only way you will be able to compare it would be to check out an Android device at a store, or go on youtube and watch a few in depth reviews on other Android devices.
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Thanks for the reply. I wasn't looking for anyone to tell me where I could get free paid apps, it's more about the freedom to unlock the phone, etc. Free apps would be good too, I just didn't know if windows phone was more pay oriented than android. Didn't mean to break any rules, sorry if it came off like that.I see a bunch of stuff about jailbreaking and roms, so I guess it is a fine line.
I guess what I want to ask is how difficult it is to "unlock" these phones compared to android. I see a post that says this phone doesn't have that option yet, but that is something I would definitely look into, as I love freedom with anything I own. It's more to get rid of DRM and things of that nature than it is to "pirate" anything.
I will give this one a shot, but if it's more pay oriented and "locked down" feeling, android might be better for me.
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Thanks for the reply. I wasn't looking for anyone to tell me where I could get free paid apps, it's more about the freedom to unlock the phone, etc. Free apps would be good too, I just didn't know if windows phone was more pay oriented than android. Didn't mean to break any rules, sorry if it came off like that.I see a bunch of stuff about jailbreaking and roms, so I guess it is a fine line.
I guess what I want to ask is how difficult it is to "unlock" these phones compared to android. I see a post that says this phone doesn't have that option yet, but that is something I would definitely look into, as I love freedom with anything I own. It's more to get rid of DRM and things of that nature than it is to "pirate" anything.
I will give this one a shot, but if it's more pay oriented and "locked down" feeling, android might be better for me.
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There is a Chevron Unlock method for Mango. But I would suggest holding off on unlocking it, but for the fact you might return it. As for the paid/free app ratio on windows phone, tge best thing to do is browse that market and see what's out there. Windows phone is definitely cool looking, and has ut's good features, just not good enough to convince me to ditch Android. Albeit I don't know you, I think it's safe to assume you'd prefer Android over Windows phone. Android (imho), is the best thing to happen to cell phones. It has the largest MOD following of any platform, and a ton of fun to use. XDA actually started off as a windows phone forum, but qiickly grew to support Android as well. Android is the future of cell phones. Do I sound like a fanboy or what?
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Yeah, I had my eye on android for awhile, I only held out because of the convenience of getting free service and the cost held me back, but it looks I can finally move forward. I do like this phone, and would like to keep it, but if I will get a better long term experience with android, it might be a wise choice to pay the fee and go with that.
But I am still open to any suggestions anyone may have about windows phone, or why I may prefer this platform.
I had an hd2 with android then WP on personally prefer the UI of Wp, but at the mo there is more out there for Android personally I think most apps are gimmicky and the office and SkyDrive integration is worth going with WP alone....
If you want a lot of apps go android, if you want a nice phone/text/camera UI experience stick with the radar
Buy what you can afford. There are a lot of free apps and many have free trials that are simply ad supported. What you'll have to pay for is xbox live games but you wouldnt go to an xbox forum and post about getting free games would you?
Another thing, if you just got the radar chances are you qualify for the free $25 app card. I got mines in the mail
https://windowsphone.promo.eprize.com/redemptionprogram/:b=ie9/
Other than that the Radar is a fabulous phone and I love it!
Thanks man, I did qualify for that! That should help.
Another question about this phone is the navigation. There is an app that wants 10$ a month, and that's a little high.. There's a "local scout" that gives directions in a non turn-by-turn fashion, and that would be fine for me. Is there a way to input an address to this app? It only has a few limited locations. Or do I have to pay 10$ a month or no navigation? Anyone know a reasonably priced alternative to this?
Bing has turn by turn...
Alright gotta keep this brief. I'm new here. I took a high school class in game and website development last year (Ya my resume beats anyone's here[extreme sarcasm])… pretty much forgot all I learned.
Now I'm sitting here with my phone...and the program AIDE, and downloading every single android game to date is a drag.
So...I want to make some games.
3 questions.
Am I in way over my head here?
Even with drop box, am I going to need a computer? (Because I don't have one)
If I'm not one of a billion idiots who makes a crap app for 99 cents no one will ever buy...where do I start?
Thanks in advance and sorry if this post is not in the correct forum.
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Hello New Guy!
I hope you know how to program in Java (I'm guessing you do, since you said you took a class).
You'd be more productive if you use a computer. Sure you can program using AIDE but what about making the images and the music? It might be possible to even do that on your phone to an extent, but if you really want to make something that is great and polished you'd be able to do it better on a computer. It need not be a beast of a machine. Any old machine would be better than doing it on your phone.
If you really want to look like you aren't a part of the group of the "billion idiots who makes a crap app for 99 cents no one will ever buy", start by getting an actual machine where you can seriously sit and work.
Learn OpenGL ES. Or learn to use a game engine for Android.
Then come up with ideas for a game. Then narrow down to the idea you think holds the most potential. Make a prototype. Try it out and make others try it to see if it is actually any fun. If yes, then work on it and complete it. If no, then switch to another idea.
Thank you very much for your clear clean and concise answer. Seriously. Probably the most useful answer I've gotten for any question in a while. I'd like your post but honestly I do not know how.
Would it really be so bad if pirates crashed all the world's economies leading to modern civilization's imminent doom?
Oh! You don't have to, but, there is a thanks button which is equivalent to liking my answer
I don't really know much about your next question I don't really think that pirates are capable of such a thing...
Hi Guys
apologies if this has already been answered i did search and found a few pots but they didn't give me all the information i was hoping for or match my criteria exactly.
Ok so i have a 3 year old son,
his hand to eye coordination is coming along and ever since he's been able to unlock his mothers ipad we cant get him off it.
i have no problem with him using the technology at such a young age in moderation and im sure it can be quite educational with the right apps etc.
however using his mothers ipad is not ideal, its totally open he could accidentally press anything from in app purchases or anything that is available on the internet which is a scary thing.
we came to the conclusion that he needs his own tablet, that we can load with selected app's and he can play etc.
i looked at the tablets designed specifically for kids like the vtech's leapfrogs etc but im not exactly sure they will be the best way forward because they wont really grow with him yes they are probably great for a certain age range but as he gets older it will loose its usefulness.
i need something that's going to be pretty much a disposable price (£30/£60) lets be frank this is probably going to be destroyed on several occasions.
so i want want an android tablet the bigger size the better. I need it to be able to root the device as i want to take advantage fully of titanium back and restore direct to a replacement device if needed.
needs to be able to run sort of childrens apps available i know the can be a broad spectrum but lets just say the average ones (processor / memory consumption wise)
i have seen lots of different softwares to lock the os down, so only use certain apps etc but any other suggestions would be great. or anyone who has made something similar.
cheers guys
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There's a dedicated thread for such questions here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
I'll close this thread.
Good luck!