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Noob here. Long time on XDA, beginner in Android.
I haven't looked much here nor read much because this came up just today and don't have much time (so please don't bash, rather help me, thank you).
I have been looking forward to switch to Android but have not found a good priced phone within my price range. Today I stumbled across an Xperia X10 and I don't want it to slip away as within my price range.
Did a few readings on specs and it comes with Android 1.6.
Is the Xperia X10 upgradable to 2.1 or 2.2 Froyo(soon)?
Thank you for you help.
Bteljuice
Devs are working on custom bootloader and seem to be making good progress, currently the answer is no, but soon hopefully custom roms will be out.
Also Sony Ericsson will be releasing 2.1 by September
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Thank you NightSide for the quick reply.
Yes, I did read that in Q4, Sony will release 2.1 for all X10 series. But I thought that has something to do with the UI sony has.
However, there's something I don't get. Most 1GHz Android devices in the market will have upgrades to 2.2 Froyo in OCT and NOV. Why won't X10 as well.
One more very important question that I missed. Does the X10 have Multitouch? or will it be enable when 2.1 is available? Pinch to zoom, rotate etc.. Very important for me
I hate to say it, but if you are indieed a long time on XDA, then you'd know to search first... All your questions have been debated in the forum a number of times...
k1sr said:
I hate to say it, but if you are indieed a long time on XDA, then you'd know to search first... All your questions have been debated in the forum a number of times...
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When I opened the thread, I didnt have time to search. I NEEDED IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, which i got, thank you NightSide.
I do know NOW that X10 does not support multi touch, but had heard and read rumors that maybe on 2.1, x10 might get multitouch. And if not, a skilled member would find a way as already one of our members found a way for dual touch on a few phones (I know it works on TP2).
And it wouldn't have hurt my friend, to be nice and answer few of my questions. After all, we are here to help and I did say in my first post why I couldn't search.
Bteljuice
bteljuice said:
I do know NOW that X10 does not support multi touch, but had heard and read rumors that maybe on 2.1, x10 might get multitouch. And if not, a skilled member would find a way as already one of our members found a way for dual touch on a few phones (I know it works on TP2).
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Yup... you're right on that. Just rumors...
I thought it was confirmed that X10 would not be able to support DT or MT at all as it ain't just the s/w part but rather the h/w plays a role as well. And X10 don't have the h/w to do so... this is what I read... could be wrong.
Nonetheless, this is still a great phone for me. Sure there are 'flaws' here and there but nothing major. 'Upgraded' from X1... and not regretting it...
If you have a deal that fits your budget.... (if I were you) go get it...
bteljuice said:
When I opened the thread, I didnt have time to search. I NEEDED IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, which i got, thank you NightSide.
I do know NOW that X10 does not support multi touch, but had heard and read rumors that maybe on 2.1, x10 might get multitouch. And if not, a skilled member would find a way as already one of our members found a way for dual touch on a few phones (I know it works on TP2).
And it wouldn't have hurt my friend, to be nice and answer few of my questions. After all, we are here to help and I did say in my first post why I couldn't search.
Bteljuice
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Agreed, however you will find (if you search) that the answers to your questions are both yes and no... all you're really starting is another thread debating whether multitouch is or is not possible, and whether SE will go to 2.2 in the near future.
That aside, 2.1 is confirmed for Q4 - the rest, rumours, speculation, debate... but apart from that...
bteljuice said:
I do know NOW that X10 does not support multi touch, but had heard and read rumors that maybe on 2.1, x10 might get multitouch. And if not, a skilled member would find a way as already one of our members found a way for dual touch on a few phones (I know it works on TP2).
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I remember reading from some dev thread that there indeed are drivers for multitouch in the kernel, but they are disabled or something. I'm pretty sure it will be investigated after we get custom roms etc.
Also note that the update to 2.1 is scheduled for Q3 not Q4, so it's coming earlier than you initially thought. There is however another update coming to enhance the SE UXP or whatever ie Timescape and Mediascape, that is scheduled for Q4 and is supposed to bring 720p video recording as well as media broadcasting on your TV...something like that.
ooidort said:
I remember reading from some dev thread that there indeed are drivers for multitouch in the kernel, but they are disabled or something. I'm pretty sure it will be investigated after we get custom roms etc.
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that's my understanding as well...the G1 went through something similar no??
*Mod please move this thread to General and out of Dev
MT/DT .. rumors.
We need custom roms to verify if it can be enabled by 3rd party but no custom roms yet.
Until then, if you don't want to be disappointed, consider that X10 doesn't have it.
2.1 was delayed it seems to Q4, i've read it on SE blog.
Some examples of user benefits that will be included in the UXP upgrade for Xperia™ X10 in Q4 2010 are:
- Upgrade to Android OS version 2.1
- HD video recording as per the same execution as Sony Ericsson Vivaz™
- Wireless home connectivity via DLNA
- Improvements to signature applications Timescape™ and Mediascape to make them even smarter and richer
The upgrade will be made available to consumers through the update service at www.sonyericsson.com
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Source: http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/05/05/sony-ericsson-xperia%E2%84%A2-x10-to-get-uxp-upgrade-in-q4-2010/
2.2 MIGHT come somewhere in 2011 if SE will still support the phone
For 2.2 our best hope are the XDA devs.
tuxStyle said:
MT/DT .. rumors.
We need custom roms to verify if it can be enabled by 3rd party but no custom roms yet.
Until then, if you don't want to be disappointed, consider that X10 doesn't have it.
2.1 was delayed it seems to Q4, i've read it on SE blog.
Source: http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/05/05/sony-ericsson-xperia%E2%84%A2-x10-to-get-uxp-upgrade-in-q4-2010/
2.2 MIGHT come somewhere in 2011 if SE will still support the phone
For 2.2 our best hope are the XDA devs.
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"...This entry was posted on Wednesday, May 5th, 2010..."
I also took the plunge on Andriod> I've been a long time HTC HD user using custom rom and it came to a point where i needed an upgrade. Choose x10 because of its hardware potential even though most reviews commented on laggy screen response, i need not worry because i know the excellent chefs here are more than capable of turning this phone into something special
http://www.xperiax10.net/2011/01/06/official-xperia-x10-family-will-not-receive-upgrade-to-froyo-or-beyond/
Well.. looks like SE are writing off the entire X10 line in favor of their new devices running 2.3 coming out later this year, so thats a big NO from sony ericsson about getting 2.2.. ever!
Lets hope the DEV's can cook something up..
COME ON SE RELEASE THE BOOT LOADER ALREADY!!!!!!!! (if your not gonna support us, let us support ourselves!)
Great.
But think about it. It could be worse (they would even downgrade our phones if they could)
Regards, D_d
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Great.
But think about it. It could be worse (they would even downgrade our phones if they could)
Regards, D_d
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If only they could.. oh wait.. the last update? loosing root.. I would call that a downgrade.. just wait for the next one.. it will magic our phones back to 1.6!
if people stopped playing with these make shift Roms and actually concentrated on hacking the bootloader we might actually get 2.2 or even 2.3.. seems everyone has given up tho and settled for backup style roms.. looks like SE has won
(even so.. I am looking forward to the new mini replacement with 1Ghz processor, X8 size screen and Gingerbread...mmm.. droooool.. call me a sucker for punishment)
that sucks, but i still love my x10 mini, this is my first android phone and thanks to xda, im getting brave enough to play with it...
xperia10.net is a untrustable source.
that was a good step from xperia10.net
they do the rumor, and wait for SE to official deny it or confirm it.
I would say few days to have official information on this
I do quote my own first line of this post...
On a positive note, it seems we will get ANT+ support on the X10 mini/pro and X8. Seems like the hardware is in place, they will now add the needed software support.
I for one like this more than an version bump for android. All applications I want to use run on 2.1 (this was not so when it was only at 1.6). And having ANT+ in the future is very nice. I already own a couple ANT+ devices as I sport a lot..
bitmovel said:
xperia10.net is a untrustable source.
that was a good step from xperia10.net
they do the rumor, and wait for SE to official deny it or confirm it.
I would say few days to have official information on this
I do quote my own first line of this post...
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It has been confirmed officially by Rikard Skogberg in se product launch blog.
They can still change their mind after all complaints but i've lost hope
ste71m said:
It has been confirmed officially by Rikard Skogberg in se product launch blog.
They can still change their mind after all complaints but i've lost hope
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where is the official link?
it was tweeted yesterday
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There is a catch...That we can't go back to the previous (current) OS version...
So my question to all those who have already updated to Gingerbread, how smooth is it on the X10...Arc looks smooth, but then again, there might be some hardware differences...
So...are we going to be lucky or doomed???
You are the 27 millionth person to post something about the gingerbread update. We will be able to flash back with flashtool without any problems shortly after our devs get their hands on the update.
Sent From My *Super Fly X10*
If I (or anyone for that matter!) help you, dont be afraid to press THANKS!
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You are the 27 millionth person to post something about the gingerbread update. We will be able to flash back with flashtool without any problems shortly after our devs get their hands on the update.
Sent From My *Super Fly X10*
If I (or anyone for that matter!) help you, dont be afraid to press THANKS!
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I am sorry but you misunderstood me. My question was how smooth X10 will be with the Gingerbread update, not whether we will be able to downgrade...anyways...thanx!
circleofomega said:
So my question to all those who have already updated to Gingerbread, how smooth is it on the X10...Arc looks smooth, but then again, there might be some hardware differences...
So...are we going to be lucky or doomed???
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It's not released yet. End of q2 is not there. Not possible to tell if it will be smooth ie not.
Sent from my X10i
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I am sorry but you misunderstood me. My question was how smooth X10 will be with the Gingerbread update, not whether we will be able to downgrade...anyways...thanx!
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How can anybody possibly know before actually updating the X10 to the official SE Gingerbread?
These threads make me sad.
circleofomega said:
There is a catch...That we can't go back to the previous (current) OS version...
So my question to all those who have already updated to Gingerbread, how smooth is it on the X10...Arc looks smooth, but then again, there might be some hardware differences...
So...are we going to be lucky or doomed???
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Your title says "coming" and you are asking whoever updated to post their comments!! Interesting
It's not released yet and won't be before "End of Q2 or Early Q3".
prathaban said:
Your title says "coming" and you are asking whoever updated to post their comments!! Interesting
It's not released yet and won't be before "End of Q2 or Early Q3".
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I don't know where am I going wrong in being clear, but I will try again..
For those who have ALREADY through a hack updated to 2.3, I am asking THEM how is X10 reacting to Gingerbread...
To the people who have updated it through the ROM of 2.3...AM I clear now?
Now nobody will talk...
I'm sure the 2.3 custom ROM would run differently to the update that SE are bringing out.
If your specifically trying to find out about the custom ROM - I suggest looking in the gingerbread thread in the development section.
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I don't know where am I going wrong in being clear, but I will try again..
For those who have ALREADY through a hack updated to 2.3, I am asking THEM how is X10 reacting to Gingerbread...
To the people who have updated it through the ROM of 2.3...AM I clear now?
Now nobody will talk...
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Is 2.3 custom rom already released? Link please.
rajv81 said:
Is 2.3 custom rom already released? Link please.
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look in the Android Development section of the forum. There are some released, they aren't stable and some features don't work yet, either.
My_Immortal said:
How can anybody possibly know before actually updating the X10 to the official SE Gingerbread?
These threads make me sad.
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They make me feel as if my brain is melting out my ear
geez
you guys could have just answered his question.... but your too proud apparently.. anyways gingerbread runs faster and smoother than and 2.1 or 2.2 rom on X10, the stability just isn't there yet for the custom roms. I anticipate that sony's ginderbread release will be just as smooth or smoother(not accounting for any slow sony bloatware, that will likely be removed immediately by most XDA followers.)
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you guys could have just answered his question.... but your too proud apparently.. anyways gingerbread runs faster and smoother than and 2.1 or 2.2 rom on X10, the stability just isn't there yet for the custom roms. I anticipate that sony's ginderbread release will be just as smooth or smoother(not accounting for any slow sony bloatware, that will likely be removed immediately by most XDA followers.)
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It's not that... It's that it is impossible to know how a true firmware will run, comparing it to a custom rom is rubbish....
Also the sony gingerbread will be way different from the gingerbread versions we have as custom now.
So how can we answer something that is impossible?
Not to mention the million threads about this already.
Feel free to go blow each other in a corner though
Reading all the SE PR the 2.3 will be AOSP Gingerbread. If the kernel is updated (presumably it will) will customs ROMS be written to take advantage of it or will custom kernel be the way????
Anyway, when SE say Q2/Q3 I wouldn't hold your breath unless you have good lung capacity!!!!
Jerpelea's cm7 is gingerbread, it is very faster and snappy, the internet us very fast. it is still a bit buggy, but is rapidly improving, plus, with the future custom kernel, it will be way faster then whatever SE puts out, but once THAT software is rooted and tweaked, it will be your best choice, until the next ROM and the next after that, until our hardware can't handle it
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Jkell69 said:
you guys could have just answered his question.... but your too proud apparently.. anyways gingerbread runs faster and smoother than and 2.1 or 2.2 rom on X10, the stability just isn't there yet for the custom roms. I anticipate that sony's ginderbread release will be just as smooth or smoother(not accounting for any slow sony bloatware, that will likely be removed immediately by most XDA followers.)
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I quite agree with you on both occasions. There is a lot of temper/ ego / attitude flying around here with people. And yea, they did answer my question...so did you...thanx!
fiscidtox said:
It's not that... It's that it is impossible to know how a true firmware will run, comparing it to a custom rom is rubbish....
Also the sony gingerbread will be way different from the gingerbread versions we have as custom now.
So how can we answer something that is impossible?
Not to mention the million threads about this already.
Feel free to go blow each other in a corner though
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You made logical sense and I want to thank you for that. however the last comment was uncalled for. You can go **** yourself too in that case...
If you can abuse, so can we...And those million threads dont ask THIS question...
Why don't simply wait for the official update and stop adding useless threads?!
Mate, the Gingerbird you see here is Custom ROM made from Sources. The Official Gingerbird has to be good. Until we see something we can't really say.
For your question: It's very fast compared to 2.1/2.2 . That I can tell you.
Yeah, the official SE gingerbread will be a lot different from these here.
The ones you find here are not yet all that stable, but SE will make sure of it, or elso the X10 owners will kill them, or at least make their life miserable xD
Hi there,
as i was reading about the release of the Android 4.0 source code i´m asking myself how long will it take until we have a custom ROM based on android 4.0!
Are some crews already working on it?
Please give me a feedback when you can!
we will get the roms when we get the roms. CM9 should be out soon now that they have the code, which they said they needed to start production, so possibly when we have that, our devs can start punching out some roms. also, in the ICS thinktank on the development page and for example the nexus s forum, they are working on the touchscreen drivers so that they can test more components of the rom.
just be patient
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
Olli80 said:
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
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touch screen is not working only physical buttons are working.
Olli80 said:
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
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Official CM support has stopped for the X8 and X10mini/mini pro, since 2.3.7 is the best thing that those phones can handle...and the aftermarket support for X10 would end soon I believe, maybe right after the stable mod comes out.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
darkylight said:
all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
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What you need to do is:
1. Find an easy way to contact SE. E-mail perhaps.
2. Come back after finding out information and post up a thread that suggests a specific date for all X10 users to e-mail at once.
3.Within the timeframe between the day the thread went up and the dealine, Spam the shiit out of this movement. Get some people to help you. (I will help you if you get it started)
All you have to do is trigger this bro and we can set this ***** on fire. Believe that brah! Peace.
darkylight said:
all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
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Can you please stop acting like a six-year-old who is begging his parents to but him a toy?
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darkylight said:
all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz
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Someone is spamming this
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Olli80 said:
seems to be a lot of time until we have some roms. also Z isnt around anymore.
dunno how to deal with touchscreen drivers for the nexus s! why are they important for a X10 rom? touchscreen is already working isnt it?
as Sony Ericsson is an official member of CyanogenMod now, im woundering that there is NO build for the X10i...........
Curios isnt it?
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If the touchscreen isn't working, how would we use the phone? And we are working cyanogenmod, ever heard of the FXP CM7 ROM that's the official one.
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aR_ChRiS said:
Official CM support has stopped for the X8 and X10mini/mini pro, since 2.3.7 is the best thing that those phones can handle...and the aftermarket support for X10 would end soon I believe, maybe right after the stable mod comes out.
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And i think many phones will be dropped out from the official support list too, such as HTC Wildfire[this thing dont even have a gpu!], Hero, Legend, Aria...
I hope ics will soon release source code for x10, I heard today on the release source code ics, is it true
EffectX said:
If the touchscreen isn't working, how would we use the phone? And we are working cyanogenmod, ever heard of the FXP CM7 ROM that's the official one.
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The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
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The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
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When all the bugs are gone, it will be released as stable.
Go join the bug hunt if you want it faster...
It's highly unlikely that we will ever get a fully stable Android 4.0 rom, for the reasons listed elsewhere in these fora. We may get ports, but they will take time, and lots of it.
Be patient and don't ask for ETAs.
Olli80 said:
The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
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It's not based on anything, they are literally making a rom with sources that they are writing. That's why it took ages compared to other ported roms.
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Olli80 said:
The FXP is the official one? Seriously?
The FXP Rom is far away from being stable enough for daily use. Weekly updates and not even finish sources for all parts.......
They are working for a long time on this ROM already and ey..... dont get it wrong.... i´m dontating ALWAYS when using a custom Rom as my daily one.....
....but in last time i lost my faith........
Z gone away! He was the mega-brain behind many progresses........
Dunno what we have to expect in the future!
Will the FXP team finish there work sometime?
As far as i know the FXP CM7 is NOT based on Android 4.0. Its base on? 2.3.4? I dont know........
I was getting an eye on the Galaxy Nexus but it is soooooooo expensive .......
going to stay on my X10
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Actually the rom is very stable for daily use with very minor bugs that they are working on. if you have lost faith in a device that is 2 years old with no support now from SE heres some advice, get a new phone! but for the rest of us who enjoy having such a great array of developers that very capable of bringing us support when we need it. Yes Z has done alot for the X10, but dont forget other devs and dont just focus on one.
First rule of CM7: Dont ask for an ETA! you must be patient like with anything. If google and samsung released ICS earlier, imagine what we would be missing.
Well clearly CM7 isnt based on 4.0, cos the source code has only been released to us. you cant expect every dev to be up day and night sitting at there pc waiting for the code, they are real people with real lifes.
Well if your going to stay with the X10, please for the love of god, stop complaining about how we havent got ICS roms yet when no other devices has a nearly stable one yet.
kthnxbai
Mr.Quipster said:
What you need to do is:
1. Find an easy way to contact SE. E-mail perhaps.
2. Come back after finding out information and post up a thread that suggests a specific date for all X10 users to e-mail at once.
3.Within the timeframe between the day the thread went up and the dealine, Spam the shiit out of this movement. Get some people to help you. (I will help you if you get it started)
All you have to do is trigger this bro and we can set this ***** on fire. Believe that brah! Peace.
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i'll find a way to contact se and post a thread later.
thanks for helping
at first: I did not ask for a release date of a ROM!
this thread is meant to discuss about what we have and can expect in the future for our X10. Its not made to complain about ppl or the devs. It´s meant to get the facts cleary for everyone.
STOP RAGING IN THIS THREAD!
So about the android 4.0 storry: Sony will spend an Android 4.0 update for the X10 ARC! The normal X10 isnt that far away ........... but still such a big prob to port it?
There will be alot devices which get a stock update to ICS and they will be stable.
The point i dont understand is why devs are working that hard on a mod which is already outdated..........
Ofc they try to re-create android with there own source codes but ey.......... you seriously thinking about writing your own operating system for a mobile phone?
Android have been founded by high skilled (and highly paid) informatics guys hired by google! I guess 50% of our devs are <18 years and not even skilled in programming. Don´t get this wrong now..... i dont want to blame you guys! But why do you think we can write a new firmware..............?
Maybe you running behind the wrong goals ............
For me the crew should focus on Android 4.0. Thats the only ROM ppl want to have now. And ey yeah it would be awesome to have ICS on my 2 years old X10!
Olli80 said:
at first: I did not ask for a release date of a ROM!
this thread is meant to discuss about what we have and can expect in the future for our X10. Its not made to complain about ppl or the devs. It´s meant to get the facts cleary for everyone.
STOP RAGING IN THIS THREAD!
So about the android 4.0 storry: Sony will spend an Android 4.0 update for the X10 ARC! The normal X10 isnt that far away ........... but still such a big prob to port it?
There will be alot devices which get a stock update to ICS and they will be stable.
The point i dont understand is why devs are working that hard on a mod which is already outdated..........
Ofc they try to re-create android with there own source codes but ey.......... you seriously thinking about writing your own operating system for a mobile phone?
Android have been founded by high skilled (and highly paid) informatics guys hired by google! I guess 50% of our devs are <18 years and not even skilled in programming. Don´t get this wrong now..... i dont want to blame you guys! But why do you think we can write a new firmware..............?
Maybe you running behind the wrong goals ............
For me the crew should focus on Android 4.0. Thats the only ROM ppl want to have now. And ey yeah it would be awesome to have ICS on my 2 years old X10!
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First, it's quite hard to port 4.0 onto our X10 since we have a really old kernel (.29), not to mention whether our hardware can handle that or not...
Second, the FXP team's goal is to get the X10 up to CM specs so that we can have as much official CM support as we want until the newest android versions become too much for the X10 to handle.
And don't even try to say that most of the devs here are below eighteen, because most of them aren't and have a proper job. If you are looking for child labour to develop your device you're at the wrong forum.
Olli80 said:
at first: I did not ask for a release date of a ROM!
this thread is meant to discuss about what we have and can expect in the future for our X10. Its not made to complain about ppl or the devs. It´s meant to get the facts cleary for everyone.
STOP RAGING IN THIS THREAD!
So about the android 4.0 storry: Sony will spend an Android 4.0 update for the X10 ARC! The normal X10 isnt that far away ........... but still such a big prob to port it?
There will be alot devices which get a stock update to ICS and they will be stable.
The point i dont understand is why devs are working that hard on a mod which is already outdated..........
Ofc they try to re-create android with there own source codes but ey.......... you seriously thinking about writing your own operating system for a mobile phone?
Android have been founded by high skilled (and highly paid) informatics guys hired by google! I guess 50% of our devs are <18 years and not even skilled in programming. Don´t get this wrong now..... i dont want to blame you guys! But why do you think we can write a new firmware..............?
Maybe you running behind the wrong goals ............
For me the crew should focus on Android 4.0. Thats the only ROM ppl want to have now. And ey yeah it would be awesome to have ICS on my 2 years old X10!
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What we have: an almost stable CM7 ROM.
What we can expect for the future: a fully stable CM7 ROM.
What we -might- get: an ICS ROM that probably won't ever be stable.
By the way, what is an X10 ARC? Never heard of that device before.
Assuming that you mean the Arc, there are huge differences between the X10 and the Arc. It will probably not even be practical to try and port ICS from it.
The devs are working on "outdated" CM7 because it is most likely to become fully stable after some work. If they start working on ICS now, they won't have a fully stable CM7 ROM to help them. CM9, based on ICS, isn't even released yet, so do elaborate on what you meant when you said the mod they were working on was outdated. There isn't even any phones with ICS yet...
By describing the devs as under 18s with little coding experience you are actually being extremely naive and disrespectful. Go have a chat with aZuZu or DooMLord about kernels, you'll see what I mean. I don't know if that's what you were intending, but you sound quite rude.
Building a working, let alone stable, ICS ROM, or any ROM for that matter, is not easy. It takes time to build, test, find bugs and iron them out.
Also, for your information, a handful of devs are already working on an ICS port alongside their current projects. Have a quick look in the dev section.
I hope you see my point now.
Dear,
First of all, a word of thanks for the countless posts that have helped me before in my search for solving a problem. I have a rooted HTC Desire HD, so these forums always come in handy.
After having bought the X10 Mini Pro for my girlfriend, and she having spent months with it, I have to conclude that the stock rom is simply too heavy for her machine, and constantly resets, etc. Last night I decided to root her phone, and after having successfully done so (thanks for the threads again), I installed GingerDX Pro v17 on her phone. And even though I can see that it runs smoother, it's still nowhere near acceptable.
Of course I made my queries, and searched for a decent answer. And yes, there are countless forums in which this question has been asked before, but they always get multiple answers and none contains the golden ticket answer: which rom runs the smoothest on this phone?
I myself am running Cyanogenmod-7.1.0 on my Desire HD, and it couldn't run any smoother. I know I cannot expect the same from a old X10 Mini Pro, but I'd like her phone to at least run a bit smooth so that she doesn't have to wait countless seconds for apps to open.
Summary:
* Phone: X10 Mini Pro (not the new one)
* Rooted
Question:
* Smoothest rom to run on the phone?
I don't really care about the battery. As long as she is able to get through the day, then that's perfectly fine. The original stock didn't even manage to get through the day.
Thanks in advance, and your invested time is much appreciated.
try minicm7 pro by paull. its just stable and super fast!
Gintonic.se.. Not at al buggy..no lags..suuper fast..esply with zp kernel..
Gintonic.SE + zombie-pack kernel by slade ..
siddardha21 said:
try minicm7 pro by paull. its just stable and super fast!
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Indeed. Minicm7 runs a LOT smoother than the previous ROM. Seems like the gal is content, since she's not complaining .
[QUOTE="faiyyaz]Gintonic.se.. Not at al buggy..no lags..suuper fast..esply with zp kernel..
Gintonic.SE + zombie-pack kernel by slade .. [/QUOTE]
Does this run smoother than Minicm7? What are the advantages? And could you explain what you just said: so the GinTonic SE ROM and the zombie pack? Is that pack an addition or something?
Thanks in advance!
Over My Head said:
Indeed. Minicm7 runs a LOT smoother than the previous ROM. Seems like the gal is content, since she's not complaining .
Does this run smoother than Minicm7? What are the advantages? And could you explain what you just said: so the GinTonic SE ROM and the zombie pack? Is that pack an addition or something?
Thanks in advance!
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There is no much difference amongst the 2 ROM..u may refer the thread fo that.. N zombie panik is a custom kernel made by slade87.. We need to unlock boootloader n then add the custom kernel.. But if u not familiar with it do read spiderx thread for instruction or else u may brick ur phone.. U may use gintonic.SE without the custom kernel as wel.. U just need to flash the modules additionally for it.. Read gintonic.se thread ul get an clear idea..
Note: create a backup before flashin.. incase u go wrong.. Coz its u gf's phone.. U wont like it to get it bricked..
Please don't get angry with this, it's not meant to be offensive, but I don't understand why some guys obsession with modding means they take their girlfriend's phone. Many of these guys break them too. I think it's a technology obsession gone too far if modding your own stuff isn't enough - you have to take other people's things too.
What does you girlfriend think? Does she really care? Or does she think it's slow only on your advice?
If you have to, MiniCM and GingerDX are the best around (still supported by devs) in my opinion.
take a look at the clean roms. As the name says, they are very clean, many thing is removed, very smoooth, there are two versions: the clean rom from phonk: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206625
and the tweaked version from flex96:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217594
phoneyericsson said:
Please don't get angry with this, it's not meant to be offensive, but I don't understand why some guys obsession with modding means they take their girlfriend's phone. Many of these guys break them too. I think it's a technology obsession gone too far if modding your own stuff isn't enough - you have to take other people's things too.
What does you girlfriend think? Does she really care? Or does she think it's slow only on your advice?
If you have to, MiniCM and GingerDX are the best around (still supported by devs) in my opinion.
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Ur just jealous cause YOUR girlfriend probably has an Iphone
Jokes aside, that's the magic of android bro!! the urge you get to share whatever awesome stuff u find!
rosshalz said:
Ur just jealous cause YOUR girlfriend probably has an Iphone
Jokes aside, that's the magic of android bro!! the urge you get to share whatever awesome stuff u find!
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If my other half had an iPhone it would be over...yuck!
I think the best roms still supported are MiniCM and GingerDX.
the best rom i have found is cyanocream sandwich
I'm using the clean 2.1.1 rom and i'm totally satisfied with it. It's very stable and lightning fast.
Sent from my U20i using XDA App
snowboarder54321 said:
the best rom i have found is cyanocream sandwich
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+1
I think CyanoCream Sandwich V2.0 is very smooth and crisp and it is stable.
But, sometimes little bit hard to install only at first time and FMradio is not functioning.
So important is a girlfriend's hobby nature and his skill of care for girlfriend
Good luck !!
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PHONE: X10 Mini Pro U20i
ROM: CyanoCream Sandwich V2.0 by Mr.Plancton.fr
KERNEL: ZonbiePanic V1.63 by Mr.slade87
Does your girl friend need Android 2.1, 2.2 or 2.3?
If:
2.1: Stock SE or BlackS
2.2: CyanogenMod Froyo by Slade87
2.3: Official CyanogenMod or MiniCM7 Pro
phoneyericsson said:
If my other half had an iPhone it would be over...yuck!
I think the best roms still supported are MiniCM and GingerDX.
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that would've been hilarious.. some guy breakin up with his girl just cause she had an iphone that he wasnt aware of!! LOL
The best ROM for me is still GinTonic.. but MiniCMpro also has some advantages... really u gotta try out some of em and see which suits u best...