hi everybody,
i am playing with the thought of getting myself a gps mouse for my hermes device.
i looked into the tom tom and navigon software, but they seem to lack certain features i would really like to have.
maybe you guys can help me with finding what i am looking for:
possibility to tag certain gps landmarks with personal info (eg. "nice restaurant", friends place")
beeing able to import adresses from adress book, and autmatically use them for navigation
being able to take pictures, and tag them with gps info, and maybe additional info/tags
beeing able to import google kmz files and overlays
maybe there's a solution out there, to automatically scan for open wlan access points, and save them to a database/map with their gps location (and maybe even time/date), > that would make a great personal city map, with hotspots i could frequent
the possibility to get overlays, like eg subway maps
i have been looking into the various online solutions like gmaps, yahoo maps, and wikimapia (which seems to allow overlays, but it did not really perform very well in my opinion).
mere navigation is a nice thing, but i believe, it would be so much nicer, to be able to link the map data to any personal data that i would like to add, and by that having a personal scout around any city.
maybe this thread could become a nice resource to others as well, since i believe that many of you guys out there would love to have some of these features as well.
regards,
trial
Say I have five places to go and I want to map a route out and follow it. Is there anyway to make one?
Google maps? I am not sure I understand your question. I know on the desktop browser version it allows you to map A to B, then B to C, etc. Quickly looked on my phone and didn't see that option, but I might have missed it.
Don't believe the phone has the option. Be really nice if it did.
check out the MapMyRUN/RIDE/WALK/HIKE/FITNESS apps from
play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=MapMyFitness,+Inc.
(including the final dot, damn restriction on outside links) or just search for any of the names. That's one of the claimed features in all of them. Came across this stuff the other day, haven't tested yet.
Is there a offline navigation application that can take over as the default?
I tried several but when I click on( for example) the direction button on Yelp, only the default map application shows up under the 'Complete Action Using ' dialog
have you tried copilot? Works well for me but I have never tried yelp with it.
There is not really a good FREE one. The best one I've found is ALK the GoPilot Live. I've tried Sygic, and I don't like it (used the "free trial" version) and decided that CoPilot was cheaper and better.
There is another one out, NAVFREE, but wouldn't touch that one yet...They have the street I live on identified in the wrong town.
Garmin has one, but it's more like "guess we gotta make one for Android" mentality. I think there is much to be desired right now in their app. Tom-Tom also has one, but based on so many negative reviews in other forums, I never bothered to even try it....I think it's one of those "Love it or hate it" programs.
Your Online choices are (with a tethered phone for WiFi): Google Navigation, and WAZE. Even when running CoPilot, I usually run WAZE, because of it's social networking feature (it's route choices suck). Users on the road can report "active" situations - cops/accidents/heavy traffic/construction, etc. With that running, I can check periodically on the status of the road conditions, and use the CO-Pilot for routing. Remember, when tethered, your carrier data rates apply.
Hope I helped,
Bob
I absolutely love, love, love the Google satellite view in the Navigational GPS app. The whole app really is awesome. I'll probably never use my Tomtom again.
BUT! Unlike my Tomtom which can calculate a set of directions locally on the device the S4 appears to have Google do the calculation on their servers and transmit the info via Internet connection. That's a real problem when you're in an area that has poor service. Navigation becomes totally nonfunctional.
The GPS navigation will work through an area of no service if you start in an area with service so the app can download a set of directions. The problems come if you need to start your journey in an area with no service, or do like I did and exit the navigation app to do other things like make a phone call from a backwoods gas station. When I tried to restart the navigation app it kept waiting to download the directions set from google which wasn't going to happen out there. Lucky for me I remembered enough to get me back to an area with 3G where the service restored functionality to the navigation app. Lesson learned.
0reo said:
I absolutely love, love, love the Google satellite view in the Navigational GPS app. The whole app really is awesome. I'll probably never use my Tomtom again.
BUT! Unlike my Tomtom which can calculate a set of directions locally on the device the S4 appears to have Google do the calculation on their servers and transmit the info via Internet connection. That's a real problem when you're in an area that has poor service. Navigation becomes totally nonfunctional.
The GPS navigation will work through an area of no service if you start in an area with service so the app can download a set of directions. The problems come if you need to start your journey in an area with no service, or do like I did and exit the navigation app to do other things like make a phone call from a backwoods gas station. When I tried to restart the navigation app it kept waiting to download the directions set from google which wasn't going to happen out there. Lucky for me I remembered enough to get me back to an area with 3G where the service restored functionality to the navigation app. Lesson learned.
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A preplanned area where you will be navigating can be cached.
It caches the map and directions so you can navigate through an area of no service but it loses the cached data when you exit the app. There is no cached data when starting a trip from an area of no service.
If I'm missing something please do tell. I'd love to know.
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It caches the map and directions so you can navigate through an area of no service but it loses the cached data when you exit the app. There is no cached data when starting a trip from an area of no service.
If I'm missing something please do tell. I'd love to know.
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Google Maps > Menu Key > Make available offline
Google Maps app =/= Navigation app.
Although you do offer a good way to at least have a map on hand.
This is why I also have CoPilot navigation. Completely offline!
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This behavior is not unique to the Galaxy S4, nor is it new. Google Navigation has always been (and almost certainly will remain) a client-server type app that does the "heavy lifting" back at Google HQ. That's not a design flaw, it's a design choice--this approach perfectly serves the needs of some huge fraction of users some huge percentage of the time, without unduly consuming the resources of the phone.
In today's world, if you're in a car in the US, you're almost always within range of a cell tower with data service. Of course, if you're not within range of a cell tower, you're probably far from civilization and that's when it'd be most helpful to have some navigational assistance...
So there's still a place for the self-contained navigators like a TomTom or similar. That market niche is simply much smaller than it was about 5 years ago before Google Maps / Navigation was ubiquitous.
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This behavior is not unique to the Galaxy S4, nor is it new. Google Navigation has always been (and almost certainly will remain) a client-server type app that does the "heavy lifting" back at Google HQ. That's not a design flaw, it's a design choice--this approach perfectly serves the needs of some huge fraction of users some huge percentage of the time, without unduly consuming the resources of the phone.
In today's world, if you're in a car in the US, you're almost always within range of a cell tower with data service. Of course, if you're not within range of a cell tower, you're probably far from civilization and that's when it'd be most helpful to have some navigational assistance...
So there's still a place for the self-contained navigators like a TomTom or similar. That market niche is simply much smaller than it was about 5 years ago before Google Maps / Navigation was ubiquitous.
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I understand its not unique or new but I certainly hope the route calculation becomes a client side option soon. It made sense to do it server side a couple phone generations ago when device processing power was limited but not so anymore. My S4 will run circles around any tomtom or garmin both in processing power as well as gps accuracy not to mention never having to do manual gps fix updates and map updates. The standalone navigational gps is going to go the way of the point and shoot camera. Its just a matter of time.
What you're calling a design choice may have been choice two years ago. Today it is a horrible flaw. There are vast areas of well traveled road that get no service around here (eg. anywhere in the mountains.) Google needs to pull their head out and recognize (or someone else will do it [be]for[e] them.) Sooner the better for them and us.
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I understand its not unique or new but I certainly hope the route calculation becomes a client side option soon. It made sense to do it server side a couple phone generations ago when device processing power was limited but not so anymore. My S4 will run circles around any tomtom or garmin both in processing power as well as gps accuracy not to mention never having to do manual gps fix updates and map updates. The standalone navigational gps is going to go the way of the point and shoot camera. Its just a matter of time.
What you're calling a design choice may have been choice two years ago. Today it is a horrible flaw. There are vast areas of well traveled road that get no service around here (eg. anywhere in the mountains.) Google needs to pull their head out and recognize (or someone else will do it [be]for[e] them.) Sooner the better for them and us.
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Like someone said before, you can download the maps offline for whatever area you need that won't have service.
Google isn't stupid. This is why they introduced this feature. It's not that the phone doesn't have the processing power; having the entire country stored on your phone would take up tons of storage.
There are other GPS applications (in the Play Store) that do this I'm pretty sure, and that is also why standalone GPS units exist. Google doesn't have to worry about losing anything to anyone. For a huge majority of users, Google Maps works perfectly fine.
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Like someone said before, you can download the maps offline for whatever area you need that won't have service.
Google isn't stupid. This is why they introduced this feature. It's not that the phone doesn't have the processing power; having the entire country stored on your phone would take up tons of storage.
There are other GPS applications (in the Play Store) that do this I'm pretty sure, and that is also why standalone GPS units exist. Google doesn't have to worry about losing anything to anyone. For a huge majority of users, Google Maps works perfectly fine.
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On my tomtom the map of the entire US (just roads, not sat images) is about one GB. Not prohibitive by any stretch.
And unless I'm still missing something you can't save maps in Navigation app. Only in Google Maps app which is different and not nearly as good for use while driving.
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On my tomtom the map of the entire US (just roads, not sat images) is about one GB. Not prohibitive by any stretch.
And unless I'm still missing something you can't save maps in Navigation app. Only in Google Maps app which is different and not nearly as good for use while driving.
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I'm almost 100% positive that the Navigation app and Google Maps are the same application. Just like the other app whose name I can't recall that helps you find restaurants, etc. It's all run through Google Maps. The initial interface may be different, but they're the same thing.
I always just search my destination in Maps, then hit navigate. That takes you to the same exact thing the Navigation shortcut will eventually bring you to. I have never really used the offline feature nor do I use the Navigation shortcut, so I can't really instruct you on how to do it through either method. I remember reading the reviews when Google introduced the feature, though, so it definitely works.
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Next time, just leave Navigation running in the background while you make your call. When you hang up, pull down the status bar and tap the Navigation icon & continue on your way.
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Google Maps app =/= Navigation app.
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Except they are. Exact same apk file. Uninstall maps... Navigation disappears.
The navigation icon is basically a maps shortcut.
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Whatever is happening in the back end, I just don't see the functionality in the front end. I'll play with it more today and see if I'm missing a way.
Surprised no one mentioned the Sygic app in this thread yet -- I tried it a while back and it was pretty decent for a standalone navigation app that you can download maps to your SD card and have the app use those. It is relatively expensive since I last looked though.
I used to have a Garmin Navigation app on my Blackberry Storm. It looked and worked just like my actual Garmin GPS. All map and routing data was on the phone (<2GB) and it worked even with no cell or data signal at all.
I don't know why they don't offer the same thing as an Android app. The full City Navigator North America database is less than 2GB.
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I used to have a Garmin Navigation app on my Blackberry Storm. It looked and worked just like my actual Garmin GPS. All map and routing data was on the phone (<2GB) and it worked even with no cell or data signal at all.
I don't know why they don't offer the same thing as an Android app. The full City Navigator North America database is less than 2GB.
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I think they decided to not kill their company. They are trying to stay out of the race to zero. Google could kill off every other navigation company in one swoop if they wanted to by offering a free full blown offline maps for android and ios...I think they just don't want the regulatory scrutiny. And they wouldn't be able to collect data on your habits as easily, lol. NSA might get pissed.
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Does anyone know of a way to make the caching of maps cache a much bigger area than it currently does?
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i understand the op's concern. the main issue being when there is no connection to the internet you cannot get directions. even if you cache a map offline the navigation still won't provide you directions, you can only browse the map area and see where you currently are on that cached map. the reason it works this way is because when you choose directions or navigation in maps google calculates the directions from your location to the point selected. it's not something done within the application, but dynamically via google's servers.
this is almost never an issue for me, except in the rare occasion when i've been traveling and in a tunnel or some remote location where internet connection isn't available. in those cases your best bet is to calculate your directions ahead of time and email them to yourself. you can also cache a map of that area so you can at least browse it offline.
if google ever offers offline navigation/directions then every other mapping service can kiss their company goodbye.
Google built the best. I'd pay for the ability to calculate a route offline.
I'm running a stock Moto G7 Power (Android Pie) (no root)
I'm looking for an app that offers a mirrored interface for a cheap reflective HUD gadget with something like Google Maps' driving mode (it shows a map, with my location on it, and [here's where apps like HUDWAY Go and most of what I've found falter] it needs to show street names of the upcoming streets, not just the one I'm on).
I have weird use case, I know, but I'm not looking for turn-by-turn navigation. I'm making a lot of residential stops so that's mostly not even an option (I haven't seen an app that can handle 50 residential stops well [and I don't want to go into why various approaches won't work unsolicited (eg only putting some of them in, futzing around with the routing, etc., if you really feel the need, I can explain of course)]).
I'm tempted to put in a request to an open source app like OSMAnd for the feature, since adding it to a map view can be bodged with `SetRotationY(180)` pretty easily, and for a proper dev, adding a setting menu entry for it would also be pretty easy (an elegant solution would probably take a few hours) or even just forking it and doing the bodge job myself. I figured I'd ask first if anyone knew of an easier or off the shelf solution.