Question about Stock ROM and Android? - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I have just Flashed HARDSPL, RADIO and a custom ROM.
I'm about to install Android now.
My question is, is it necessary to have a custom ROM to have Android?
Or can I have stock ROM and Android?

smerf1 said:
My question is, is it necessary to have a custom ROM to have Android?
Or can I have stock ROM and Android?
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Yes.... and no.
Actually, "it depends" is the best answer. I use stock ROM (had to flash my Radio to higher than 2.08 obviously). I have no problems with android. A quick search around the android forums will show you that many people have problems with android unless they flash a custom ROM.
So, it depends... If you are lucky it will work fine on stock ROM. If not, you'll need to flash one of the recommended custom ones.

Faelok said:
Yes.... and no.
Actually, "it depends" is the best answer. I use stock ROM (had to flash my Radio to higher than 2.08 obviously). I have no problems with android. A quick search around the android forums will show you that many people have problems with android unless they flash a custom ROM.
So, it depends... If you are lucky it will work fine on stock ROM. If not, you'll need to flash one of the recommended custom ones.
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Thank you for the quick reply.
I guess I'll stick with the custom ROM for now then, although I do miss my stock one already lol.
Just for future references, Do I have to uninstall my custom ROM and flash Stock ROM the same way I have done Custom ROM?

I believe the process is slightly different and may involve a flash through the SD card. Although I've never really looked into it myself.
Check out THIS thread. It has some more info on how to flash back to stock. Or THIS one if you are tmous.

Thank you ever so much, I figure I will try it with stock ROM first, see if that works.
I'm guessing it doesn't matter which stock ROM I download from the none TMOUS thread link?

Actually, I remember reading somewhere that it very much matters what stock ROM you use. (I think) someone said they bricked their phone using the wrong one. However, I do read a lot of posts and I may be remembering incorrectly....
Either way, you should ask around or scan through that thread to be sure.

Right ok, Trying to find a tutorial now on how to determine which one I will need.
Thank you for your help.

I remember my stock ROM being 1.66 something.
So should I download that one?

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Install stock 2.1 without losing recovery partition

Hey all,
Been running ROMs on my Hero for a while now but I'd like to give the stock 2.1 a try and possibly stick with it until CM6 is stable. I know I can install the RUU but I don't really want to lose my recovery partition, I had to use the gold card method which was a pain in the ass.
I don't need root, I'd actually prefer to get a non-rooted completely default factory ROM if possible. How would I go about doing that or do I need to install the RUU and re-root it later if I want to? I've seen some "stock" ROMs floating around on the dev forum but all have been rooted and most seem to be running custom kernels too.
Any info or a link would be appreciated if I can keep my recovery part. Cheers
Villain Team has posted the GSM roms. There's pure stock and rooted stock.
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=1973
Alexander13 said:
Villain Team has posted the GSM roms.
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Ahh brilliant, thanks for that!

Root help

Hey everyone,
I've already rooted my Droid Incredible, and it was an pretty simple process to do. I've browsing around these fascinate forums for a little bit as my wife wants me to root hers to get rid of a lot of the bloat, and possibly check out other Roms. I just want to make sure I'm looking at the correct guides as one says that it is basically old info, and another just seems to be old to me.
So I was just hoping someone could point me in the right direction for a guide is all as if I break her phone, I'm sure she'll Lorena Bobbit me.
Much appreciated!
u dont need to root ur phone if u want install custom rom cos most of custom rom already rooted all have to do is choose what rom u wanna flash and choose the right recovery (use Odin) for that rom and u all good
try this link if u r new to fasciante
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
sam.assad said:
u dont need to root ur phone if u want install custom rom cos most of custom rom already rooted all have to do is choose what rom u wanna flash and choose the right recovery (use Odin) for that rom and u all good
try this link if u r new to fasciante
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
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I'll need root to remove the bloatware like Skype and whatever else, right?
badogg said:
I'll need root to remove the bloatware like Skype and whatever else, right?
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most rom did that for u ..
what he is saying is once you use ODIN to install clockwork recovery, all you do is flash a ROM after wiping and resetting your phone, and you have a custom rom installed. I am assuming your wife's Fassy is running the latest OTA, whichever it is....download ODIN to a PC, there are a couple guides out there that include ODIN, and the ED05 rom/PIT combo. directions are pretty straight forward as most roms have them in the first post. read up on the ROMs and decide which you would like to run, being a Cyanogen man since the OG Droid, I would recommend it...fast, good battery life...but MIUI is a really slick rom as well, a little iphone-ish as you have to have all your apps on your homescreens, but Folders help you there...and you can still have widgets...the ability to have Android widgets are one of the many reasons why iPhones will never be in my hand...
anyway, check out the instructions to unbrick and also to return to anyother rom from a CM7/MIUI build as they completely change the filesystem, so if you want to go back to Touchwiz based roms, you will need to go through ODIN again with the ED05/PIT package before installing TW roms...
enjoy and ask away, plenty of helpful people here, but always search search search, you may find your answer faster than waiting for responses on the forum!
I agree with the above, but if you only want to root the stock rom then follow this guide in link.
http://www.galaxyforums.net/forum/f...ow-root-froyo-gingerbread-your-fascinate.html

Updating modified phone

I have a custom rom (Omega v6.0) and franco's kernel.. The phone wants to upgrade now (I froze the update thingie with titanium backup before it started downloading) so I was wondering will it screw anything up if I do? Unroot it? Do something with the rom or kernel? Or can I go right ahead? Thanks
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There are many threads about it.
Yes it will unroot your phone.
Yes you will loose all and any modifications Omega brought or you patched yourself.
Yes you will loose all System apps Omega brought.
If you have a custom recovery the update should fail to install.
Sorry if this have been brought up before, I tried to find something but I guess my search skills are lacking. Thanks for the answers.
Another question; How important are these updates? When I install a new version of Omega it wipes everything anyway right? And the OTA or the significant updates may be included in that new custom rom, correct?
Sorry, first smartphone here
ChaosPath said:
Sorry if this have been brought up before, I tried to find something but I guess my search skills are lacking. Thanks for the answers.
Another question; How important are these updates? When I install a new version of Omega it wipes everything anyway right? And the OTA or the significant updates may be included in that new custom rom, correct?
Sorry, first smartphone here
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No need to be sorry, search kind of sucks anyways.
Yes your custom ROM will likely be patched to include any beneficial changes
Superb. Thanks

[Q]So I have a rooted YP-GI1. What's next?

I recently picked up a GP 4.2. I immediately got it rooted so now I'm running a 2.3.6 stock rom with root. What's the next step in terms of getting a recovery installed and maybe moving up to an ICS or JB rom? I've kind of poked around a bit but it's some what confusing with all the other types of GPs in the same area. Does anybody have a recovery and rom they'd recommend? Is using rom manager to push CWM feasible?
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
MetaMav said:
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
NapalmDawn said:
Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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you should flash CWM via odin first and then flash the ROM via CWM
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
MetaMav said:
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
NapalmDawn said:
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
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Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
Xenphor said:
Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
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From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
MetaMav said:
Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
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Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
Xenphor said:
Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
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In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
NapalmDawn said:
In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
Xenphor said:
Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
Sent from my YP-GI1 using Tapatalk 2
SerkTheTurk said:
Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
Sent from my YP-GI1 using Tapatalk 2
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Where could I find a stock kernel?
Xenphor said:
Where could I find a stock kernel?
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US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
Sent from my YP-GI1 using Tapatalk 2
SerkTheTurk said:
US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
Sent from my YP-GI1 using Tapatalk 2
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Ok thank you. However, will this work with YP-GS1?
But about kernels, on the webpage where I downloaded the stock rooted rom http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166 it says specifically that the Wifi module in system and kernel must MATCH. This is what I'm talking about in regards to kernel compatibility with roms. How do I know if a kernel I'm downloading will have changes applied to it that will work with another rom like with this stock rom/kernel?
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
NapalmDawn said:
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Well I had to flash this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198234 to get CWM on mine. I haven't actually flashed anything with CWM because there doesn't seem to be any good roms for the 3.6 unless CM7 comes out sometime. I used Odin to flash a stock rom from here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166
NapalmDawn said:
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
NapalmDawn said:
Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
MetaMav said:
I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
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ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
Xenphor said:
ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
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Xen-it seems GPlayer development is still fairly newish. the work you see from devs now are all ground work. For the 4.2 and 3.6, they seem a little less dev populated than the 4 and 5. People will build upon the work of early devs and eventually get kernels that can OC and maybe ICS and JB roms. At this stage, we likely won't see anything like ZOMG earth shattering until people spend time with the devices. Seems Serk is on his way to doing the best he can for 4.2 but I am not sure who is tackling 3.6
It's weird how roms for devices go. I learned this when I had a tbolt and shockingly saw a FUNCTIONAL JB rom for my old Eris while the tbolt was still hanging back in ginger land with not even a really good ICS rom let alone JB. I asked the Tbolt community-why? How is it the dinosaur Eris has JB and not us? It all depends on what the devs can do with the sources provided. Sometimes certain hardware points are sticky. you can have beautiful JB rom for a device that can't talk to the camera if the hardware source isn't made available (reference the HP TP for many years)
For now, flash what you're comfortable with and and learn what you do and don't like. Also learn if you want to play things safe and not experiment or take on potentially beta builds. For the tbolt, tackling an ICS rom was too dicey so I never did. On my new Rezound, I eat up JB roms as they are in much better shape

Ability to flash custom rom on g900tuvu1gpe1?

Hi all, I've tried using the search function and looked through the similar threads. However, I am unable to find a thing about it. I was wondering, for my own device's safety, if I am able to flash a custom rom on baseband g900tuvu1gpe1 (if baseband matters). It's been a while since I've actually flashed any custom rom and have never flashed a custom rom on my tmo s5. Oh and I am using TWRP for recovery. Thank you!
ksigh said:
Hi all, I've tried using the search function and looked through the similar threads. However, I am unable to find a thing about it. I was wondering, for my own device's safety, if I am able to flash a custom rom on baseband g900tuvu1gpe1 (if baseband matters). It's been a while since I've actually flashed any custom rom and have never flashed a custom rom on my tmo s5. Oh and I am using TWRP for recovery. Thank you!
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I think you need to work on your search skills. There is a whole sub-forum for ROMs for the SM-900T:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/development
And, you can flash international ROMs for the phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5
There is a link in my sig for a Stock Rooted Deodex ROM, that I'm using.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
I think you need to work on your search skills. There is a whole sub-forum for ROMs for the SM-900T:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/development
And, you can flash international ROMs for the phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5
There is a link in my sig for a Stock Rooted Deodex ROM, that I'm using.
Rob
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Thank you for the response. However, that doesn't answer the question I had asked on the title of the post.

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