So which rom do you guys recommend? It looks like bionix is nice because it keepes touchwiz, but eugine i hear is really good. Do any of these have 2.2? And what is the hybrid for eugines about?
That's up to you to figure out. Everybody has different tastes. Try em out and keep the one your cool with
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That's up to you to figure out. Everybody has different tastes. Try em out and keep the one your cool with
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Yea i guess il do that, im just afraid of bricking my phone.... I read alot of stories here about this... Any suggestions?
Ya dont brick it. Read the instructions completely before you start.
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Ya dont brick it. Read the instructions completely before you start.
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Yea ofcourse, right now im thinking of just rooting.
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Yea i guess il do that, im just afraid of bricking my phone.... I read alot of stories here about this... Any suggestions?
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1) Download ROM Manager (ClockWork Recovery) from the market.
2) Flash Clock Work Recovery
2b) Make a backup
3) Pick a ROM from the BIBLE in the dev section listed under the Clock Work section
4) Download it and move it to the root of the SD card
5) Boot into recovery and Install a ROM from SD
Pretty straight forward if you read thoroughly
I actually just rooted my phone! My first step on track hahaha. Ill look into the other stuff next, perhaps wait till 2.2 roms are made. Im installing mobile ap right now, or at least figuring it out.
from experience i can only comment on eugenes roms. I havent tried bionix.
Eugene if you want something lightly themed with tweaks and TW Launcher go with Eugene's Vibrant9 found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743769
If you want something more close to the "vanilla" android which means you wont have samsungs TW stuff go with his hybrid rom here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773018
He did also release a franken-twiz rom here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784142
for me the franken-twiz rom is too unstable, and some things didn't work for me, like widgets, but it also has some AWESOME features, and is also based on the latest "leaked" firmware JI2.
I use his Vibrant9 with JAC's OCv4 Kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744655) and i LOVE it. very snappy and stable. There is also the "rom bible" here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111 with tons of information, you want to stick with the roms that are "flash-able .zips" IMO
As far as bricking your phone, the vibrant is very hard to fully brick, not saying it is impossible, but its hard, just read through the directions a few times and make sure you are understanding. And like ALex530 said it is up to you to find what you like, that is the beauty of Android.
I personally like Vibrant7 because well I do.
And if you want more battery life, and the touchwiz is not all that great to you, Hybrid R3 makes my battery last on average double than it did with stock or any of Eugene's other ROMs(which i have tried them all, and they all have good points with the exception of the frankin twiz, which he tweeted that he was not going to fix and just base it off a newer leak because of the issues), it basically removes allot of bloat ware(stuff that isn't needed to run the phone) and in return it makes allot less stuff running in the the background, which makes the battery last much longer. You can add stuff back into it, what I use is the TW Hybrid v3, and then I add the Sims and avatar movie back into it. But I liked both of those.
Most importantly if you are not comfortable with android I would stick to flash-able ROMs, the ones that require Odin can cause you problems if you dont know what you are doing. As long as you make a backup of your current ROM, if the flash goes wrong you can just use a Nandroid to restore and try again. I personally have flashed my Vibrant probably 60 times, but I am always trying the new thing, but lately I just use it for a day or so and then I end up going back to the Hybrid build because of the battery Life.
Well i got the whole thing down, i tried all the roms, but honestly there was nothing i really liked or found to my interest. Alot of the skins werent to my liking although i did like Frankin-Twiz, but i found Bionix to be a tad bit ugly in terms of design. Dunno i might wait till 2.2 and see what roms come out then. For now ill just probably stay rooted. I may try the roms out again and look into them more in detail.
I like the TWiz design alot, kinda grew attatched to it, and bionix made me hate it haha. Frankin wasnt bad though. Gotta just try em again.
Edit: Also Hybrid wasn't that bad either, but the TW launcher was still there? Is this to be deleted or should i just be recommended to make the other one my default?
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Well i got the whole thing down, i tried all the roms, but honestly there was nothing i really liked or found to my interest. Alot of the skins werent to my liking although i did like Frankin-Twiz, but i found Bionix to be a tad bit ugly in terms of design. Dunno i might wait till 2.2 and see what roms come out then. For now ill just probably stay rooted. I may try the roms out again and look into them more in detail.
I like the TWiz design alot, kinda grew attatched to it, and bionix made me hate it haha. Frankin wasnt bad though. Gotta just try em again.
Edit: Also Hybrid wasn't that bad either, but the TW launcher was still there? Is this to be deleted or should i just be recommended to make the other one my default?
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Well I use ADW just for the fact it lets you have two quick launch buttons on the bottom of each screen on each side of the dock button and place which ever short cuts you want there, I put my phone and camera, Kinda like the TW but has 4 , and ADW has the launch dock button and 2 to equal 3 that one gives you allot of options also for themes that are free from the market. Also you can get a program called "Home Switcher" that allows you to change your default really easy and you can try them all. There is pro launcher, which is good too i just like having the quick launch options.
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Well i got the whole thing down, i tried all the roms, but honestly there was nothing i really liked or found to my interest. Alot of the skins werent to my liking although i did like Frankin-Twiz, but i found Bionix to be a tad bit ugly in terms of design. Dunno i might wait till 2.2 and see what roms come out then. For now ill just probably stay rooted. I may try the roms out again and look into them more in detail.
I like the TWiz design alot, kinda grew attatched to it, and bionix made me hate it haha. Frankin wasnt bad though. Gotta just try em again.
Edit: Also Hybrid wasn't that bad either, but the TW launcher was still there? Is this to be deleted or should i just be recommended to make the other one my default?
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Try LauncherPro, I run that on my wifes MT3G it is quick and FULLY customizable, kinda has the TW feel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQkVPipeO8k
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Hello All,
I just rooted my Vibrant last night, and installed ROM Manager/Clockwork recovery mod. The last thing I did was do a backup of my device in case I either don't like the ROM or need to switch back. Anyhow, needless to say I'm a newbie to all of this. I've been trying to do some research, but I see an endless amounts of ROMS. I've seen some videos on Euegene's roms and some of the team whiskey ROMs. I was hoping you guys might be able to give me some tips or recommendations on what ROMs to start or stick with. Lastly, if I installed a ROM what happens to my purchased apps from the market? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Well here is ALL personal choice. You will notice that somethings will work for you and somethings will not work for others.
I would start with Nero V3. It is a Froyo (2.2) ROM based on Gingerbread (2.3). Again it is not Gingerbread.
Why start with this one and not Nero V4.1??
Well because Nero V4.1 has voodoo lagfix installed by default and TRUST ME you don't want to start messing around with voodoo if you are a newbie. Everyday there is someone whining about their phone not working because of voodoo.
But mainly inform yourself about every ROM and try them out, people flash ROMs all the time just to try them out so I recommend doing the same. And don't try to break your head trying to know everything it will get to you later on (like Over Clocking, Kernels, Under Voltage, etc.)
And you can download all your purchased apps again from the Market (data does not save this way). I highly HIGHLY recommend Titanium Backup, it will restore your apps just the way the used to be before (with data), just make sure not to restore system apps just third party apps.
When I first started flashing roms I tried axura just because the theme over it was like nothing I have ever seen before. At the time appearance was more important to me vs performance. Ever since that I have stuck with axura because its got looks and performance especially now.
Its all personal choice. I recommend that u read the first post of the roms and see the features list. Then look at the screenshots to see if u like the look of it. Finally just read some of the recently posts in the thread of current problems and see if u live this those bugs. Enjoy your rom hunt. To me its the most fun part!
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I believe stock JL5 froyo is the way to go.
Do you want touchwiz?
Do you want a themed rom?
What is important to you.. what are you hoping for?
If you want performance and stability I think Nero V4.1 (yes, with voodoo) is the way to go. There is nothing tricky about voodoo... just know that it will convert your file system (nothing is lost) to EXT4 which is MUCH faster. This is what the Galaxy S comes with stock. It is also what popular roms like CyanogenMod do.
The one caveat is you MUST disable it before you flash something else over it to be safe. You simply go to CWR and disable on next reboot.... that's it. Takes about 5-10 minutes to convert and there is a voice telling you what's happening while it boots.
Nero V4.1 is going to be very popular so themes, etc will be abundant soon.
I also REALLy like Axura roms (i am one of the few on here who seem to be willing to give both developers a lot of respect). I was one of the very few who noticed data drops on the latest axura .9 rom though. With it I also used voodoo and both it and nero 4.1 were almost identical quadrant scores 1520+.
That said, quad scores mean nothing... what is important is BOTH fly. I do like the animation/theme of axura a lot more. It comes with a lot more launchers to choose from. Some consider this bloat, some like the options.
I am using Nero 4.1 with voodoo and ADW EX and I do not think anyone on this board could be as happy with their setup. I'll leave it at that.
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Do you want touchwiz?
Do you want a themed rom?
What is important to you.. what are you hoping for?
If you want performance and stability I think Nero V4.1 (yes, with voodoo) is the way to go. There is nothing tricky about voodoo... just know that it will convert your file system (nothing is lost) to EXT4 which is MUCH faster. This is what the Galaxy S comes with stock. It is also what popular roms like CyanogenMod do.
The one caveat is you MUST disable it before you flash something else over it to be safe. You simply go to CWR and disable on next reboot.... that's it. Takes about 5-10 minutes to convert and there is a voice telling you what's happening while it boots.
Nero V4.1 is going to be very popular so themes, etc will be abundant soon.
I also REALLy like Axura roms (i am one of the few on here who seem to be willing to give both developers a lot of respect). I was one of the very few who noticed data drops on the latest axura .9 rom though. With it I also used voodoo and both it and nero 4.1 were almost identical quadrant scores 1520+.
That said, quad scores mean nothing... what is important is BOTH fly. I do like the animation/theme of axura a lot more. It comes with a lot more launchers to choose from. Some consider this bloat, some like the options.
I am using Nero 4.1 with voodoo and ADW EX and I do not think anyone on this board could be as happy with their setup. I'll leave it at that.
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What is touchwiz? (sorry for the stupid questions guys) Can someone explain that to me please? Thanks for all your responses guys! I think I'm going to be installing my first ROM tonight! I just have to pick one lol.
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What is touchwiz? Can someone explain that to me please? Thanks for all your responses guys! I think I'm going to be installing my first ROM tonight! I just have to pick one lol.
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Touchwiz is what your phone is running now which includes the launcher, icons, samsung apps and such. Its basically Samsung's overlay to Android just like Htc uses Sense and Motorola uses Moto Blur. I personally use Nero 4.1 with Touchwiz just because I like some of Touchwize's elements even though I use Launcher pro to customize to my delight. I can tell you once you start flashing it becomes and addiction. Also don't forget that if you back up your stock rom and load a froyo rom, you cant just go back to eclair without flashing an eclair kernal first. Read up on that. Good luck!!!
I strongly recommend Version V4. 1
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Touchwiz is what your phone is running now which includes the launcher, icons, samsung apps and such. Its basically Samsung's overlay to Android just like Htc uses Sense and Motorola uses Moto Blur. I personally use Nero 4.1 with Touchwiz just because I like some of Touchwize's elements even though I use Launcher pro to customize to my delight. I can tell you once you start flashing it becomes and addiction. Also don't forget that if you back up your stock rom and load a froyo rom, you cant just go back to eclair without flashing an eclair kernal first. Read up on that. Good luck!!!
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Thank you for the info!
I'm happy to report I'm now running Nero4.1. Thank you guys!!! . I can see how this can be addicting (flashing different roms) haha.
Awesome man, be sure and enable voodoo for a much snappier phone. Just remember to disable it (via CWR, or the app Voodoo toggle) before you flash anything.
Worst case you forget, you can just use ODIN (recommend the alt method in my noob guide because it keeps root).
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Awesome man, be sure and enable voodoo for a much snappier phone. Just remember to disable it (via CWR, or the app Voodoo toggle) before you flash anything.
Worst case you forget, you can just use ODIN (recommend the alt method in my noob guide because it keeps root).
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Thanks again for the help, and tip! I just downloaded voodoo toggle. This ROM is awesome! By the way, if i wanted to switch to another ROM let's say Axura's ROM would I need to flash my phone back to stock or can I just load that ROM up? I just didn't want to miss any steps lol. Anyhow, thank you all again!
I'm currently on EB01, voodoo undervolt kernel from imnuts07, and I'm quite liking it... but I'm slightly bothered by the severe drop-off in theme creation lately, because the Fascinate is, well, old. I hopped on the Fascinate train reeeeeal late and will have it for a while still... I've heard good things about CM 6.2.0 and CM7 (the ones JT put out, because he loves us all), especially involving themes, should I switch? I never use camcorder or BT calling, and only rarely use MMS; but is it worth the whole backup-wipe-restore pain in the ass?
Sorry for the wall of text. I worry quite a bit about my phone, but have a huge interest in moving it forward. Hell, I don't really have any problems with Touchwiz, but Cyanogenmod just seems kinda, I dunno... badass, or something.
Suggestions please?
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I'm currently on EB01, voodoo undervolt kernel from imnuts07, and I'm quite liking it... but I'm slightly bothered by the severe drop-off in theme creation lately, because the Fascinate is, well, old. I hopped on the Fascinate train reeeeeal late and will have it for a while still... I've heard good things about CM 6.2.0 and CM7 (the ones JT put out, because he loves us all), especially involving themes, should I switch? I never use camcorder or BT calling, and only rarely use MMS; but is it worth the whole backup-wipe-restore pain in the ass?
Sorry for the wall of text. I worry quite a bit about my phone, but have a huge interest in moving it forward. Hell, I don't really have any problems with Touchwiz, but Cyanogenmod just seems kinda, I dunno... badass, or something.
Suggestions please?
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Well, if you really want themes. Hop on CM7 and basically you can flash any CM7theme on http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=527
or wait couple weeks or months(depends on source drop) for better CM7.
Huh. That's actually really cool. Other than the few broken things and the amass of themes, is it that much different from what I have now?
there are dozens of themes available for froyo....you could flash 1 a day and it would take weeks to get through all of them
i dont see how this phone can be accused of having a lack of themes at all
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there are dozens of themes available for froyo....you could flash 1 a day and it would take weeks to get through all of them
i dont see how this phone can be accused of having a lack of themes at all
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Theme devving SLOWED, dude. Plus, I'm picky....
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Theme devving SLOWED, dude. Plus, I'm picky....
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Nitjus/nitro they all try their best to satisfy us. So if you cant find one, port or make one of urself rather than complaining.
You've just been Fascinated
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Nitjus/nitro they all try their best to satisfy us. So if you cant find one, port or make one of urself rather than complaining.
You've just been Fascinated
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I'm... not complaining? I love the theme I'm on, I just love switching constantly, so should I go to CM? Yeah, screw it, gonna try CM6.2.0.
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I'm... not complaining? I love the theme I'm on, I just love switching constantly, so should I go to CM? Yeah, screw it, gonna try CM6.2.0.
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CM6.2.0 has less problems than CM7, but "if" you want themes go for CM7. But I preferably say CM6.2.0 is better for now.
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CM6.2.0 has less problems than CM7, but "if" you want themes go for CM7. But I preferably say CM6.2.0 is better for now.
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I want themes, but I use the majority of the broken things in CM7...
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Theme devving SLOWED, dude. Plus, I'm picky....
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well it slowed relative to how it was after froyo dropped as we had to report themes daily so for a month or two tons of stuff came out
but relative to the thunderbolt which is new...we still have just as many themes coming out....to each his own in preference
but one doesnt need 3 new themes a day
personally i used to port a lot of themes but as a grew as a themer i started getting into doing a better job and putting in more detail so things take longer...also i dont use others original work anymore....so im not putting out 2-3 a week anymore
Alright, not hopping after all, as after looking, the majority of those themes are for CM7, and Fascinate's CM7 is so broken....
I'm loving cm6...best performance to date by far...haven't even thought about jumping to cm7
**Rockin jt's CM6**
But how many themes are for CM6.2.0?
With all the personalization options...I don't need a theme. You can change items in the notification bar and colors of all texts and background colors. All built in
**Rockin jt's CM6**
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With all the personalization options...I don't need a theme. You can change items in the notification bar and colors of all texts and background colors. All built in
**Rockin jt's CM6**
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Holy ****, mind showing some pics?
Cm7 is good imo but I don't use the broken stuff much so yea lol xD
sent from fascinate using cm7
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Cm7 is good imo but I don't use the broken stuff much so yea lol xD
sent from fascinate using cm7
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If YouTube worked, I'll be all over CM7.
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Yes, I've found out the hard way that even trying bt on cm7 forced a battery pull, so it's definitely not for everyone at this point. But it is _awesome_ to be running a usable gingerbread rom that I can build myself! (i love you jt)
cm6.2 is definitely more stable but exchange push issues led me to give cm7 a try. So far no exchange issues with cm7 but I won't know for sure until monday...
btw I noticed that cm6 had perfect audio on a2dp vs stock eb01 that was glitching on me at least every 15 min w/pandora.
noobidity update:
neglected wiping dalvik cache on first flashing which caused several issues that I wrongly attributed to cm7. A2DP _does_ work on cm7.
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If YouTube worked, I'll be all over CM7.
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Also USB mass storage. Grr. And I seem to use MMS a lot...
I've Tried both CM's and While the Themes of CM7 out Pace CM6.2 in style,
knowing that I couldn't use as a daily driver, is what made me go back to CM6.2(even though it has somethings that still don't work as well),
My 2Cents
I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
* please note voodoo is not enabled, if you have voodoo, disable it before flashing if you don't odin back to jfd first.
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
Question remains, is voodoo necessary?
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I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Good question! I was actually wondering this the other day. I tried a few different ROMs without lagfix.
I was wondering the same thing about it. "Is lagfix just a workaround to cheat higher quadrant scores?"
After a day or so on any ROM I tried without lagfix you would notice a slow down mainly in shutting down programs. Sometimes they would take up to 5 seconds to close! Opening programs slowed some but not nearly as noticeable. The dialer would take some time to open as well.
So in my experience lagfix seems to speed the phone in read/write capabilities. Which I imagine is what it was desinged for. You notice in Quadrant, that is where the most improvement is (In I/O).
So if you arent a real big phone geek (like most of us probably are) then the lagfix shouldnt make a huge difference to you. But, for me, I like my phone to fly doing anything. So lagfix enabled here!
It's not all about the speed. Its good to have a standard. This phone should've been on ext4 from the start. Supercurio has done a great job getting everyone switched over. I don't believe rfs is supported in cwm3+ either.
Just my opinion. I always use it. If I flash something else its an easy fix. Just flash an ext4 compatible kernel!
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I just reread your post, and I've never had a problem restoring backups. In fact, I flashed to an i9k Gingerbread ROM this morning, played around with it for a while (read: smashed my face against the gps), flashed a Froyo kernel and restored my nandroid without ever using ODIN or RFS
rfs = sux ballz (wen i first got my phone and started rooting one of the first things out of my mouth was wtf is rfs!)
ext4 = ahh, thats btr
I agree that stock felt oddly similar with voodoo enabled and disabled when i tried it for a day yesterday.
I disagree that you cant restore nandroids with CwMRecovery. For me it seems like its hit and miss which i'm gonna continue to test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13284392#post13284392
Don't get me wrong....
Like I said, I love Voodoo.. I've only considered EXT4 and it is my preference... thought I made that clear.
BUT, I have not noticed any difference with it vs. using jellette's ROM, and that is really surprising to me. I know it can tend to "slow down" over time (which I do not understand why).. but changing from app to app I am noticing no difference.
Regarding restoring backups....
I said that because the man himself made THIS COMMENT just yesterday. I have had issues in the past (5 x maybe) where a restore failed, never knowing why. I've also had them restore fine, not sure why the difference.
s15274n said:
I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Thanks for the info on Jelletts ROM. I am definitely going to try it out. I don't know about voodoo will test your theory for myself but kudos to Supercurio and the wonders he has made for us in the mean time.
I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I understood you perfectly.. just didn't want others to think I was trying to say something I was not. Thanks man.
Talked to Ben Buchacher, you know the creator of SuperD.
I asked him what ROM and if he had lagfix.
He said he was using stock 2.2 and no lagfix, the lag went away in 2.2
PS he said TW ROMs weren't great.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Yea! A long time ago.
He is waiting for cm7 to get stable to start working
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
You keep saying your using his rom, but which one are you referring to in hist thread? there is a 2.2.1 and a 2.2
I tried the 2.2 and it was laggy like the stock 2.2 and I have taken my phone all the way back to closed box and brought it up to 2.2(KB5) and there is always lag there. I don't mind Touchwiz but when a couple weeks go by and my phone starts crawling across the ground like a drunken sailor it gets a little aggravating.
Basically in my experience any rom, and I mean any, with or without voodoo runs great for a few weeks, but then the slowness comes back and you start to notice apps taking longer to open and close, MMS really starts to lag as well as the keyboard when typing. the gallery really takes a hit and showing pictures off on my 500 dollar 1Ghz phone becomes embarrassing. So with or without voodoo stock 2.2 on the Vibrant seems to run great but runs out of gas in a few weeks, some may last a month. 2.2.1(sucks with no Wifi calling) seems to keep going much better, and the browser is faster. So if your running 2.2.1 of his then yea you might see a better faster rom, but if you run his 2.2 I bet after a few weeks of regular use you will start seeing lag and get frustrated. And I bet even the 2.2.1 will start to crawl at some point.
Now I'm not dissing his rom or anyone else's. They are all based off of the crap the Samsung shoved out the door and yea a few tweaks here and there help, but every rom always seems to start crawling at some point and nothing seems to bring it back to day one other then reflashing.
Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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which rom are you running the 2.2.1 or 2.2
The only thing really keeping me on 2.2 roms is wifi calling.
I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I have gotten that on quite a few roms including two versions of trigger and three stock builds. I get out of it by pressing the power button 3-5 times giving about 1-2 seconds between presses and it eventually came back.
I might try the 2.2 build out eventually.
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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I'm not a fan of putting anyones work down.. especially when it's free/
I once knew a dog by the name of Raphael Francisco Sanchez. He pooped in the same place everyday, and then walked through it like the dumb mutt he was. Over time the poop built up till eventually the dog could no longer run and play with all the other little doggies, and when the lawnmower came around that spring, Raphael Francisco Sanchez barked his last bark.
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HTC thunderbolt
I thought I would stick with sense roms for a while, but I've had it a month, and I'm already using launchers to change the look and feel.
Anyways, I wanna try an aosp rom like cm7 or thunderbread.
Right now I'm running gingeritis 3d (sense), and I used the kernel that was recommended.
My question is, and I know this is a lot about preference but, what is the best aosp rom out there right now that's stable and fast? And what kernel should I use? battery life isn't a huge deal for me since I'm near a plug most of the day, but I'd like at least 6-7 hrs from it.
if anyone has any info and suggestions, I'd appreciate it
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HTC thunderbolt
I thought I would stick with sense roms for a while, but I've had it a month, and I'm already using launchers to change the look and feel.
Anyways, I wanna try an aosp rom like cm7 or thunderbread.
Right now I'm running gingeritis 3d (sense), and I used the kernel that was recommended.
My question is, and I know this is a lot about preference but, what is the best aosp rom out there right now that's stable and fast? And what kernel should I use? battery life isn't a huge deal for me since I'm near a plug most of the day, but I'd like at least 6-7 hrs from it.
if anyone has any info and suggestions, I'd appreciate it
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There is no best. there is all personal preference. The asop/asop type roms I can think of off the top of my head is OMFGB, MIUI, and CM7. All being at a stable point in development. So look at them and figure out which one you would like best
I'll just make this simple.
I'm looking for a
Kernel that works with cm 7.
It needs to be fast stable, and everything working.
What have you used?
Which ones did you have a good experience with?
I'm wanting to flash today and could use a prod in the right direction for my first aosp experience.
Thanks
(and if you have links, that'd be awesome)
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I'll just make this simple.
I'm looking for a
Kernel that works with cm 7.
It needs to be fast stable, and everything working.
What have you used?
Which ones did you have a good experience with?
I'm wanting to flash today and could use a prod in the right direction for my first aosp experience.
Thanks
(and if you have links, that'd be awesome)
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I'm on taptalk right now so searching is a real pain. Look up imoseyn kernels. He has sense and asop roms. Go to the development section. Plenty of info there for you. Whatever you do do not rush into flashing something just because you want to. Read, research, read some more, then make sure you understand what your doing before you do, so if you have an issue you can possibly save yourself lots of headache.
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I'm on taptalk right now so searching is a real pain. Look up imoseyn kernels. He has sense and asop roms. Go to the development section. Plenty of info there for you. Whatever you do do not rush into flashing something just because you want to. Read, research, read some more, then make sure you understand what your doing before you do, so if you have an issue you can possibly save yourself lots of headache.
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I've done a ton of reading, researching and everything. I'm not a tech noob at all. I actually own a pc repair business. and I've successfully flashed phones before.
Like I said, I did the first flash a day or so after getting it (to Gingeritis 3D) and everything went fine. (after getting the correct radio that is)
Anyways, I choose CM7 and downloaded Zoom kernel, which is Here
The CM7 file i downloaded is: update-cm-7.1.1-Thunderbolt-signed.zip
Which I thought was the correct one.
I also downloaded a MR2.5 radio. Although I'm not 100% its the BEST one, but I know it works with CM7. and I did get a signal with it.
but even after wiping everything, and doing it over and over, I can't get past the white htc splash screen.
Do you have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Solution Found!!
I had been doing everything right, but it seems Clockwork Mod Recovery was corrupt or something.
What I did:
I restored back to my last backup.
Opened Rom Manager
Click "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" (the top one, even if it says your up to date)
after it flashes CWM successfully, either download and flash a rom from Rom Manager, or do it manually as I did.
And after the flash, I rebooted, and it went right to the CM7 boot animation, and loaded perfectly.
If you were like me and searched google, and found lots of posts with the same issue, but no solutions. So I hope this helps others.
Thanks for all the help guys!
(goes to show sometimes you just gotta try anything and everything)
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I had been doing everything right, but it seems Clockwork Mod Recovery was corrupt or something.
What I did:
I restored back to my last backup.
Opened Rom Manager
Click "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" (the top one, even if it says your up to date)
after it flashes CWM successfully, either download and flash a rom from Rom Manager, or do it manually as I did.
And after the flash, I rebooted, and it went right to the CM7 boot animation, and loaded perfectly.
If you were like me and searched google, and found lots of posts with the same issue, but no solutions. So I hope this helps others.
Thanks for all the help guys!
(goes to show sometimes you just gotta try anything and everything)
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I hope you didn't take what I wrote as negative to your skills. I didn't mean to make it sound like you didn't know what you were doing lol just threw ideas out there hoped one might spark a thought.
Glad you got it up and ruining. Already nice when someone posts how they fixed something, in case any of us end up with the same issue gives us more troubleshooting ideas.
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i've used many sense & aosp roms myself and will say that aside from sticking with an actual cyanogen rom directly, the latest "SHIFTAO5P" that's been re-worked by dhacker, 2.8 is really nice & stable(and the location/gps actually works).
I agree with you on the sense though, I could never stand the actual sense launcher and always just used Launcher Pro.
Also if you use aosp you will run into issues with the flash player. I know when I was on CM7 it happened. I tried out MUIU and I had problems with flash and I had to do that flash player trick (look it up) to get it to work. I never tried OMFGB but I have tried CM7 and MIUI and they're both sweet. My favorite one is Liquid Smooth. but its up to you. They're all great
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I have tried it out but I am not thrilled by it. I still need my Go Launcher and still like MIUI a little more. I have been using a Galaxy Nexus not the ROMs here (although I have tried them). Am I safe in assuming the on screen buttons (home,back,and whatever the other one is) wont be on the GS2 since we have actually buttons? I love the ICS theme but maybe since we have had the theme for so long already it just seems old already. How do you guys feel?
Does it have anything to do with the AT&T SGS2?
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I have tried it out but I am not thrilled by it. I still need my Go Launcher and still like MIUI a little more. I have been using a Galaxy Nexus not the ROMs here (although I have tried them). Am I safe in assuming the on screen buttons (home,back,and whatever the other one is) wont be on the GS2 since we have actually buttons? I love the ICS theme but maybe since we have had the theme for so long already it just seems old already. How do you guys feel?
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Onscreen buttons won't be necessary when we get kernel source - they're a temporary workaround for our touchkeys not working right on I9100 leaked kernels.
So far, I haven't been impressed with the ICS leaks for the I9100. A little bit of kernel tuning might fix that, not sure yet.
CM9 is quite slick on the Tab 10.1 - so a properly working non-Touchwizz ICS port should be good. The problem is that Samsung's anti-developer attitude makes me doubt if CM9 will ever be properly polished on the GS2. There's just too much of a minefield of undocumented Samsungisms throughout the device.
I was not in a rush at all to get ICS. I saw Entropy's thread with working firmware and the in call audio fix so I though I would check it out. Turns out I love it. I think its a huge improvement. G+ is a nicer experience and Gmail has a new look. Having Chrome as the default browser is pretty nice with the option to view as desktop ..and since flashing CM9 I've noticed incorrectly spelled words get a red line under them for easy spell check/fix.. I am absolutely loving it. I can't seem to pull myself away from ICS now
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I don't even want it.....at all. AOSP used to be clean......nothing......minimal. Now its a iPhone. A whole designated launcher with integrated everything ......its Touchwiz.....its Motoblur.....its....Sense. The official version we will see will be a themed settings menu and a new version number.....I guess its cool the wifi icon and battery will be blue.....there are a couple of things that make it alright in its function. One thing is for sure is that it makes the device it was designed around lag like a son of a *****....shutters like a frozen homeless hooker.
Maybe a cooked version comes out sweet.....Entropy will make a nice sweet kernel I am sure.....but official **** and straight AOSP .....I will be fine without it.
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Skyler2Dope, Entropy512, tylerdurdin
You guys do realize you can use any launcher you want right? I've used ADW and Nova on my i9100. Both work great...
ICS Fixed the Settings menu layout. In GB there was way too many things. ICS cleaned them up. I would say it's more MIUI then iPhone.
And EVERY iteration of Android AOSP has come with a new theme. Google keeps it fresh every time. This time was dark with lots of bright blue. Next will be Light with lots of... who knows, orange, maybe...
You can theme it how you like, you can still run what ever launcher you want. Or you can go back to GingerBread... All I can say is that for me it has fixed all my little complaints, if I had them.
I have ICS running on my captivate right now. I do like the new UI, but I have to agree that with all the ICS themes out there, I am not excited by the look. It does seem old already. At this point I'm on the fence. There have been some awesome roms come out recently in the development section so I can wait. Truth be told I am rocking the black and chrome theme on checkrom right now and loving it. More my style
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MIUI V4 is dope...all the ICS features and I can theme it any way I want!
like it. blue is my fav color. I just hope there is USB connection not mtp.
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Skyler2Dope, Entropy512, tylerdurdin
You guys do realize you can use any launcher you want right? I've used ADW and Nova on my i9100. Both work great...
ICS Fixed the Settings menu layout. In GB there was way too many things. ICS cleaned them up. I would say it's more MIUI then iPhone.
And EVERY iteration of Android AOSP has come with a new theme. Google keeps it fresh every time. This time was dark with lots of bright blue. Next will be Light with lots of... who knows, orange, maybe...
You can theme it how you like, you can still run what ever launcher you want. Or you can go back to GingerBread... All I can say is that for me it has fixed all my little complaints, if I had them.
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Ok I know assuming is bad sometimes, but..........considering Entropy has nearly 6,700 posts I'm gonna ASSUME he knows you can "use any launcher you want"
Touchwizz is more than just the launcher.
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I don't even want it.....at all. AOSP used to be clean......nothing......minimal. Now its a iPhone.
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Whoa.. AOSP is like an iPhone what?! .. man you crazy. My phone is NOTHING like an iPhone.. doesn't look like it, doesn't feel like it and the UI is completely different. Have you fallen off your rocker?
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I guess i'd be happy with 2.3.x with the email clients from ICS
I like it....but my iScrewed works way to good for my purposes. No issues. When all is worked out i will use cm9 though. I keep my eyes on the thread over there.
Waiting for Kernel source before I make my decision, but probably going to jump when that happens.
Entropy512 said:
Onscreen buttons won't be necessary when we get kernel source - they're a temporary workaround for our touchkeys not working right on I9100 leaked kernels.
CM9 is quite slick on the Tab 10.1 - so a properly working non-Touchwizz ICS port should be good.
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FWIW, I am running [ROM] [CDMA] AOSP ICS / CM9 - BUILD7 [03/04] from http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11697-rom-cdma-aosp-ics-cm9-build7-0304/ on my 7" Sprint Galaxy Tab, and I really like it, even these "extra" onscreen buttons have added value in the tab world.
But I can say for sure that I don't want ICS on my phone yet (regardless of the business with the touchkeys)...
ICS is cool and all. But I don't really care for work arounds. I want my soft key buttons to work.
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Touchwizz is more than just the launcher.
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Exactly. Its got its hooks in about 80-90% of the firmware (just like Sense does).
As for liking ICS, remember the Froyo days? We had a lot of well working smooth roms and made Froyo enjoyable, then Gingerbread came out which seemed more like a theme than anything. But it was under the hood that made a lot of differences. The same is true for ICS, except the "theme" is a lot better, cleaner and intuitive. The under the hood stuff seems like a bigger leap then Froyo to GB was.
So am I excited, yeah. Theming can be done on any phone/rom so Im not worried about that, but where they placed things from older versions is much welcomed. Its the underneath part that Im mostly excited about.
Well said Red!
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Red5 said:
Exactly. Its got its hooks in about 80-90% of the firmware (just like Sense does).
As for liking ICS, remember the Froyo days? We had a lot of well working smooth roms and made Froyo enjoyable, then Gingerbread came out which seemed more like a theme than anything. But it was under the hood that made a lot of differences. The same is true for ICS, except the "theme" is a lot better, cleaner and intuitive. The under the hood stuff seems like a bigger leap then Froyo to GB was.
So am I excited, yeah. Theming can be done on any phone/rom so Im not worried about that, but where they placed things from older versions is much welcomed. Its the underneath part that Im mostly excited about.
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Red.....I agree with everything you said. I do understand the depths of Touchwiz also.....I won't whine though as I am running a nicely themed version right now.
I also am right there with you with the old 2.1 roms ....those are what made me love android and spend the first year I was a member here reading until 4 in the morning. I am OK with the direction the ICS OS is going.....its just the look and what is now considered AOSP that is hard for me to digest. I realize that it is just a canvas but I am old school...every ROM I download, I pull apart change what I want, theme it....some times build my own custom theme....so I am not worried about the look over the long haul.
What I can say is that I was running ICS on my HD2 before the nexus was even released....it was fun at first....but the new-ness rubs off real quick....somethings I loved, some I hated......None of those things are something that I feel I am missing out on. Hey to each their own....my brother in-law is rubbing his nexus in my face every chance he gets.....and refuses to believe, that I don't believe, his phone is the greatest ever. But I don't......I just don't think its the same android....its cool and sooner or later we are all getting it whether we want it or not.
The one thing I am going to miss, is taking my brand new bloated phone, and flashing a sweet. ....squeaky clean AOSP ROM and after it booted seeing that sweet minimal dock and nothing else......now after a flash the first thing I have to do is get that hideous launcher with their oversized gimmicky icons off?????.....AOSP just aint what it used to be. I think I am just jaded that they took away a little piece of my Zen man...
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