Hey Gang.
Last night I noticed that my phone didn't have full signal (4 bars) in my house. This is the first time since I've had the phone.
After playing with it for a while I noticed that if change from 3G to Edge then my signal strength goes from 1-2 bars (-110db) back up to 4 bars (-73 db).
I'm not sure if that's normal behavior. I've also noticed the the phone gets hotter than normal when transferring data via 3G and the battery drains like crazy (lost 50% charge over 2 hours of testing this morning).
I called my provider (Rogers - I'm just north of Toronto) this morning and they say that the one tower in my area seems to be working fine.
I did a factory reset using SEUS but still have the same problem.
Any ideas? I thought I'd try to reseat the antenna but I can't find the damn thing.
AdamUpNorth said:
Hey Gang.
Last night I noticed that my phone didn't have full signal (4 bars) in my house. This is the first time since I've had the phone.
After playing with it for a while I noticed that if change from 3G to Edge then my signal strength goes from 1-2 bars (-110db) back up to 4 bars (-73 db).
I'm not sure if that's normal behavior. I've also noticed the the phone gets hotter than normal when transferring data via 3G and the battery drains like crazy (lost 50% charge over 2 hours of testing this morning).
I called my provider (Rogers - I'm just north of Toronto) this morning and they say that the one tower in my area seems to be working fine.
I did a factory reset using SEUS but still have the same problem.
Any ideas? I thought I'd try to reseat the antenna but I can't find the damn thing.
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I am north of toronto Newmarket 4 bars -81db and 4 bars -87db ( 3g )
pm me and I can give ya a few tips hopefully to sort it out.
Rockjock007 said:
pm me and I can give ya a few tips hopefully to sort it out.
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Post any tips here please as it may help others.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Post any tips here please as it may help others.
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Of course after all we are all here to help yeah?
So after driving around and visiting the local Rogers shop, it appears to be a tower issue. Looks like the phone was working fine in the store and in town. I called tech support and they're sending someone out to the tower near my house. (<1 km or 1.6mi from my house). There was a power outage yesterday so that my have caused a problem. I'll post an update in a few days after Rogers checks the tower out. I'm hoping it's that. I'm thinking the extra heat may have been from the phone cracking up the antenna to try to connect. I remember someone say that in low signal areas their batteries drain fast.
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So I got a Vibrant not too long ago used off someone here. It's been fine and all but one thing I noticed is that signal is not as strong as my other phones have been. I only get 3 bars (about -95 dBm) in my house and it gets lower not to long after holding it. At first I thought this was just the network I'm on (WIND) but my friend also has a Vibrant and he gets somewhere up in the 70's in terms of dBm and 4 bars when putting them right next to each other. Is this a hardware defect? I tried pulling the little copper tabs up to see if it would have any effect like the GPS fix does, but it seemed to do nothing. I've tried some modems too, nothing.
...Help?
Check this thread out. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959088
Christ1119 said:
So I got a Vibrant not too long ago used off someone here. It's been fine and all but one thing I noticed is that signal is not as strong as my other phones have been. I only get 3 bars (about -95 dBm) in my house and it gets lower not to long after holding it. At first I thought this was just the network I'm on (WIND) but my friend also has a Vibrant and he gets somewhere up in the 70's in terms of dBm and 4 bars when putting them right next to each other. Is this a hardware defect? I tried pulling the little copper tabs up to see if it would have any effect like the GPS fix does, but it seemed to do nothing. I've tried some modems too, nothing.
...Help?
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You could be right about a hardware issue check this out Let me know if this helps you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948156
I've tried the KA5 (seems to be best modem), and nothing. I've tried most modems and it doesn't seem to have any effect on giving me better signal strength, I remember fiddling with that tab (that's apparently for Wi-Fi) but didn't bother really pulling it up. Guess I'll give that a shot and see what happens with the KA5 modem
No luck with that. Still the same
I want to know if anyone else is having this strangeness before I call VZW;
Without moving an inch my signal goes from 2 bars of 4G to 2 bars of 3G and then back again. I set the phone down and wait a couple minutes and it jumps to 4G again. Very sporadic.
When I run Speedtest sitting at my desk showing 4G I get 6.5MB down and 25+ Up. Then, 3 seconds later when it jumps to 3G I am getting less than 1mb down and 500k up.
I have powered down, pulled the battery and held power button, the powered back on. (Several Times) Same results.
So far it's only inside my building so it could very well be environment related. I just want to toss it out there and see if I am the only one.
Thanks!
compnird said:
I want to know if anyone else is having this strangeness before I call VZW;
Without moving an inch my signal goes from 2 bars of 4G to 2 bars of 3G and then back again. I set the phone down and wait a couple minutes and it jumps to 4G again. Very sporadic.
When I run Speedtest sitting at my desk showing 4G I get 6.5MB down and 25+ Up. Then, 3 seconds later when it jumps to 3G I am getting less than 1mb down and 500k up.
I have powered down, pulled the battery and held power button, the powered back on. (Several Times) Same results.
So far it's only inside my building so it could very well be environment related. I just want to toss it out there and see if I am the only one.
Thanks!
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LoL, I feel your pain. It's the building you're in. I was thinking the same thing. As soon as I step outside, it's 4G central. You're not going crazy or anything.
When I'm on the edge of 4G coverage, mine does the same thing.
So far, when I'm at work is when I have that problem. It's quite annoying actually. Every other building seems to be fine outside of where I work.
WINGZERO619 said:
So far, when I'm at work is when I have that problem. It's quite annoying actually. Every other building seems to be fine outside of where I work.
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Better get a new job then.
jords12 said:
Better get a new job then.
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You ain't lying! I was like WTH! I honestly thought I broke the thing until I started walking out of the building. Kinda sad that it doesn't really work indoors at work. Like you said, time to get a new job... not yet, I like what I do lol!
When I'm in an edge of 4G area I notice it doing the same thing, it has having a hard time deciding what to do. Rebooting or putting in airplane/taking airplane off seems to fix it
Thanks folks! Glad to know it isn't just me. I did notice it happened when I was at the gym too. But in the car, truck or outside... Epic Awesomeness!
Always good to know I am not crazy, or at very lest not alone in my insanity.
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compnird said:
I want to know if anyone else is having this strangeness before I call VZW;
Without moving an inch my signal goes from 2 bars of 4G to 2 bars of 3G and then back again. I set the phone down and wait a couple minutes and it jumps to 4G again. Very sporadic.
When I run Speedtest sitting at my desk showing 4G I get 6.5MB down and 25+ Up. Then, 3 seconds later when it jumps to 3G I am getting less than 1mb down and 500k up.
I have powered down, pulled the battery and held power button, the powered back on. (Several Times) Same results.
So far it's only inside my building so it could very well be environment related. I just want to toss it out there and see if I am the only one.
Thanks!
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Same thing happened to me yesterday, although slightly more weird.
I was happily tethering away at the office on a nice strong, fast 4G signal for a few hours, then all of a sudden data dropped out completely. Restart the phone and it only shows 1TTX, but eventually flickers up to 3G, but won't go back to 4G despite numerous reboots. Eventually it settled back down to 4G and all was well.
I guess it was some kind of tower problem, as my location doesn't appear to be anywhere near a non-4G area (see map below). The area my office is in (near the 405 fwy and Van Nuys Airport) has excellent maximum speed coverages by AT&T and even T-Mobile; it would be shocking to me to learn that VZW in the same area isn't full 4G (it's not as map shows).
Hopefully this was just a fluke, but it has me nervous and I'll be keeping an eye on the performance during my 30 day test period.
distortedloop said:
Same thing happened to me yesterday, although slightly more weird.
I was happily tethering away at the office on a nice strong, fast 4G signal for a few hours, then all of a sudden data dropped out completely. Restart the phone and it only shows 1TTX, but eventually flickers up to 3G, but won't go back to 4G despite numerous reboots. Eventually it settled back down to 4G and all was well.
I guess it was some kind of tower problem, as my location doesn't appear to be anywhere near a non-4G area (see map below). The area my office is in (near the 405 fwy and Van Nuys Airport) has excellent maximum speed coverages by AT&T and even T-Mobile; it would be shocking to me to learn that VZW in the same area isn't full 4G (it's not as map shows).
Hopefully this was just a fluke, but it has me nervous and I'll be keeping an eye on the performance during my 30 day test period.
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This is very similiar to what happened to me last night at a restaurant around 8:30pm in Tustin CA. Had one or two bars of signal, was streaming YouTube fine, data connectivity cut out even though signal was same, cycled through airplane mode, after a short period it came back at 1x then eventually back to LTE. I thought the LTE equipment bounced at that tower but it now sounds like it happened on a wider scale.
I guess it helps to post the following info to help correlate:
Occurrence: 1
Date and time: Fri 3/19/2011 ~8:30pm pacific time
ROM: 1.12.605.9 non-rooted
Same here. I'm still trying to figure out the battery life hand over from 3G to 4G and back. It does NOT appear to be graceful.
I too have had to revert to airplane mode to get 4G back up. What end up happening too is that 4G will be listed, but push notification stalls badly even though it seems like a solid signal.
Last night I turned off 4G the entire night and push was working fine in the morning, nearly instantaneous.
This morning I turned off 3G and forced 4G and after 4 hours everything seems fine with no push notification latency. So perhaps the hand off on the phone is real bad between 3G and 4G.
I used phone info from the market to toggle 3G and 4G, [email protected]
mi7chy said:
I guess it helps to post the following info to help correlate:
Occurrence: 1
Date and time: Fri 3/19/2011 ~8:30pm pacific time
ROM: 1.12.605.9 non-rooted
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I've had a couple of instances I suspect over the last three days, but only the one that mentioned above where I can be sure. For me it was:
Fri 3/19 ~2:00 PM Pacific
stock rom unrooted at the time.
I would expect that to go away as they expand coverage, remember that this network is still being rapidly expanded.
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Hopefully this was just a fluke, but it has me nervous and I'll be keeping an eye on the performance during my 30 day test period.
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Its 30 days for a defective exchange but 14 days to exchange or return the phone completely FYI
Here is a thing I have noticed and a friend got me thinking
If you pick up a call on 4G and travel into a non 4G area... your call will drop. Its weird because no one said this phone could support LTE voice.
But if you pick up a call on 3G and travel into a 4G area everything is fine, just be stuck on 3G until you end the call. Same goes for data, I tested this out with pandora and stays stuck on 3G until i stop.
The manager at the corporate store told me they were not having any problems with signal hand off's but I think he was lying or didn't know. I work as an agent at the edge of a 4G boarder and get tons of returns or questions about the service on the 4G air cards for people who live in the area or near the boarder.
Signal just drops before it decides what its going to try next, super annoying
Mine was switching all over the place and then would completely shut off with no data connection. I kept getting a retry. Finally I took the cover off and just put it back on and now it seems to be working fine. I guess the antenna was not connecting properly.?
you guys should try an evo on Sprint 4g and laugh at the wimax coverage.
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Hello guys..i bought a RAZR XT910 before about 3 weeks and i didnt notice any problems with it at all..its battery life the way i organised it with smart actions is very very good, better than my iphone 4...i have as well those black marks on the screen on low lighting and black pictures but i dont mind this either..as u can almost never see it...my problem is my weak wifi signal..i never noticed it those last 20 days as i have been working on my phone mostly on my computer desk so the phone was next to the router..the only place my phone gets 4/4 in wifi signal its when its next to the router..at 1 meter distance the signal gets 3/4 strength..at 5 meters 2/4 strength and at 10 meters the signal its lost..and this is only when im at the same room that has the router..if i go to another room the signal gets lost..especially when i close the door...i never had any wifi problem with my previous smartphones and i even had wifi outside of my house...please help me here..im quite desperate..what shall i do? return it and demand a replacement? ask for my money back? is there any way to fix this?
I don't have that problem but I'm wondering if you get it with other networks? Also have you tried resetting your router?
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yea i get it with all wifi networks...for example my university, work, home..etc
Hmmm. I just ran the Speedtest app and got 12Mbps download over my wifi. It would be interesting to try that a few places and show it to VZ. Maybe they can test it on their network.
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Heartl3ss said:
Hello guys..i bought a RAZR XT910 before about 3 weeks and i didnt notice any problems with it at all..its battery life the way i organised it with smart actions is very very good, better than my iphone 4...i have as well those black marks on the screen on low lighting and black pictures but i dont mind this either..as u can almost never see it...my problem is my weak wifi signal..i never noticed it those last 20 days as i have been working on my phone mostly on my computer desk so the phone was next to the router..the only place my phone gets 4/4 in wifi signal its when its next to the router..at 1 meter distance the signal gets 3/4 strength..at 5 meters 2/4 strength and at 10 meters the signal its lost..and this is only when im at the same room that has the router..if i go to another room the signal gets lost..especially when i close the door...i never had any wifi problem with my previous smartphones and i even had wifi outside of my house...please help me here..im quite desperate..what shall i do? return it and demand a replacement? ask for my money back? is there any way to fix this?
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Get wifi analyzer and see if you have good signal. I notice that the Wi-Fi graphic is conservative.
my RAZR was having trouble operating on WPA2-Personal secured wifi network.. so i changed the wifi settings to WPA-Personal with TKIP and the problems are gone so you might wanna try this before you RMA.
Mine had problems with dropped and weak signal which turns out to be because I had Bluetooth on as well. If I turn bluetooth off wifi works perfectly
My WiFi reception is appalling. It only see's my home network where as my three year old HTC Hero is seeing seven!
With my package I have the ability to connect to BT Openzone hotspots around the UK.
Not much use if you can't go more than 15ft from a router without the connection dropping!
Bluetooth is off and I have tried several WiFi analysers from the market, all show a very weak signal.
Hi
On mine, yes the wifi signal (bars) are showing less then with htc desire, but I can connect without problems even the router is on the second floor and I am siting on the first, so reachable from the whole house.
I do experience, that it takes a little bit longer to find the wifi as with the desire, but once connected, works just fine.
I do not experience problems with hidden networks. Mine is not broadcasting the id, still connection is stable.
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The bars on mine seem less than what the signal actually is. I connect to my home wifi just fine, from all over the house. I also connect to work's wifi from what seems like the same distance as my previous phone (Dinc)
i'm using d-link dws-125 (usb router)
when i connect and start using internet, the network disconnects in a few seconds. then it connect again and the same... etc.
please, help!!!
same problem here, hope a solution can be found as the phone is unusable in its present state
The "single ball" is enough to achieve 10mbit at my place, however, I upgraded my firmware to OpenWRT and now I get two full lines and the "ball" in the bedroom.
Stock netgear firmware is.. Incomplete. :S
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Hi everybody,
I have the same problem mine is a razr from france even if i use it in italy, i found that when haveing the phone in the hand the signal gets very worst, if i hold the phone from the edges not in the hand the signal is much better i gain two signal bars, the same happens if i left the phone on the desk, the signal gest very good, as soon as i take it in the hand the signal gets bad, a kind of antenna gete from iphone....
hope this helps somebody
used to have this issue with weak wifi signals, but after installing the 85P radio update, it's gotten a bit better.
My i9205 have generally poor signal compared to my note1. It doesn't seem to make any difference to turn of LTD. I have not experienced any call dropping, only referring to the displayed signal. My note shows full signal while i9205 shows minimum signal. And in battery usage the "Cell Standby" is quite high and normally with 10-20% "Time without signal" even if I have not noticed any time without signal.
Anyone have similar issue ?
I have the Mega GT-I9200 and experience spotty signal as I drive around. I am on T-mobile in New York. Within a 15 mile radius in New York City my signal will fluctuate between HSPA+, Edge, G (1st generstion GPRS), and sometimes complete loss of both data and cellphone signal. I think the issue is I might need a modem to be ported from a t-mobile device to give me a consistent signal. Not sure if anyone could do that or if there's even a t-mobile device whose modem would be compatible at this point.
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Yep! I'm definitely getting this too. The phone very rarely shows the full 4 bars of reception, and in low signal areas (1 bar or less) the phone starts flipping between GSM/WCDMA (UMTS) constantly, giving very poor reception. Also, signal strength in general isn't as good as my nexus 4 was. I sometimes am unable to reliably maintain a signal at all in areas that I know my N4 could reliably hold 1 bar of strength, with the phone disconnecting from the network completely and then reconnecting all the time.
As I'm in the UK and without LTE anyway, I've switched the phone to WCDMA mode only, which has helped though the phone now just flips between HSPA and HSPA+ when in poor signal. Its certainly much more usable this way at least.
On the upside, yesterday night with 3 bars reception I was consistently able to get over 15Mbps download, with my best result of nearly 19Mbps! So it doesn't look to be a hardware issue.
I'm speculating wildly here but to me this looks like a SW issue in one of two areas: signal strength isn't being reported correctly (too low), causing the phone to take action to try and obtain a better signal (by flipping to a lower bandwidth protocol or disconnecting and trying to detect a better macro, for instance) when it isn't really necessary OR maybe the phone is just too aggressive in switching from HSPA+ down to GSM to save battery.
Is there some way to take control of the mechanism, and try to force the phone to stay in hspa+, or to spoof a higher signal strength?
EDIT: This phone is packaged with very thin plastic wrapping over the metal band that runs around the circumference of the device. I accidentally left a lot of this wrapping on for the first few days. It may be complete crap, but I think my signal might have improved since I removed it all! I certainly seem to be able to maintain a connection in places that I wasn't able to last week, and maintain a constant (4-5Mbps) HSPA+ link in areas that I couldn't before...
Time will tell...
I have the same encounter, I have two sim cards belong to the same number one for phone and one for tablet. The one in Mega 6.3 give me three bar signal but the one in Galaxy tab plus 7" give me four bar signal :crying:
I am also having reception issues with my mega 6.3 I get worst reception than any of my other phones sitting in the exact same spot. I am on ATT in the US. I removed all the plastic around the phone. I am wondering if it is my APN settings. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this or there is something eles going on.
The Mega has an issue with the radio. I bought two of these an i9200 and i9250. Both Mega's would lose signal completely. I don't have the greatest signal here at my home, but it has never been an issue with any other phone such as Note 1 and Note 2 and many others. If you are in a weak signal area more than not, you may wamt to hold off until the radio issue is resolved with software or whatever. They were unusable for me and I re-sold them.
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I have an i9205 and it's fine with the signal. I'm in the UK though
The big problem about this is that the phone uses much more battery when signal is low and using 3G. I can get 6-7 hours screen on time on one charge while wifi is on. But when using 3G with low signal I get 3-4 hours.
I hope this is a radio firmware thing, and not a hardware thing, so that it could be improved with updates.
so any updates?
Same problem here with my new Mega 6.3! My phone have only 1 or 2 bars signals while my brother's Samsung Grand has full antenna easily. It's very annoying. What should we do?!
Same ****ty reception going on with mine. I returned it.
I changed it too. New one is working fine.
hi. ah really? changnig phone u noticed a consistent improvement in reception?
but... i can say that i and my girlfriend, using a DIFFERENT SELLER...... we have the same problem of cell standby
I found that all phone models are inconsistent in radio reception, not sure why...
Sometimes the updates can do a little better, but I believe the hardware is the most limiting factor.
Maybe Mega isn't for you where you live, just return it then get another phone
i have poor signal Too
Any news or solution ?
I've tested my phone for 2 weeks before I decided I would post this thread..from what I've found in my house I will have full signal bars all around..I use my wifi because it is a lot quicker ..now when I am on wifi my mobile signal strength goes down..When my phone sleeps and I power screen back up my mobile signal will be zero bars and it will be stuck there..so I turn off wifi around nd restart my phone..of course all 5 bars are back and I have perfect service..until I turn back on wife then it happens again..I've Updated prl and profile a few times..I'm past my 14 days Idk what to do
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I've tested my phone for 2 weeks before I decided I would post this thread..from what I've found in my house I will have full signal bars all around..I use my wifi because it is a lot quicker ..now when I am on wifi my mobile signal strength goes down..When my phone sleeps and I power screen back up my mobile signal will be zero bars and it will be stuck there..so I turn off wifi around nd restart my phone..of course all 5 bars are back and I have perfect service..until I turn back on wife then it happens again..I've Updated prl and profile a few times..I'm past my 14 days Idk what to do
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If you live in a stucco house then your inside a giant Faraday cage. 4G is suppose to penetrate better but I wouldn't know. Sprint does have Femtocell's but you have to go to the store twice for them to give you one. If it keeps up or you live in a stucco house then a Femtocell is the solution. It's the towers not your device. If your on stock rom then what you see as signal probably isn't realistic anyway. It will show 3G when it's not.