Yes, I know there is already a post where people promise to reward devs for porting Froyo on X10. Unfortunately, the person who created it doesn't track how much money people pledged anymore (he stopped at $1000 and now we're close to $4000 in donations).
This post is an idea and statement on the situation and feelings of many (I would dare to say most) Xperia X10 users have.
In short: SE f...ed us and we, users can't do anything about it. The company is in the deep mess and can't decide if update for a few days before release. They just probably won't update X10 and that's it. We bought expensive hardware, we signed long contracts. For those living in countries where operators embrace Android it's only question of money to cancel your contracts and buy a new phone. For people living in some places there is really no hope because carriers don't carry/support anything else (Android is not really embraced by carriers outside of the US).
So, what's with $10.000?
Well, look at every single forum and all comments from people. The rage is enormous, people are really desperate.
At this point it's really obvious that anybody who ports stock Froyo on Xperia X10 can ask for any reward and people will donate the money. There is enough of us just on this forum to gather probably a round $10.000 or more. If you could port Froyo before SE releases 2.1 and show us prove of everything running fine I would guess it wouldn't take the community more than few days to hit $10.000 in donations.
We appreciate all effort by the devs who are working on it without thinking of the reward. Yet, devs are people too and should get paid for accomplishing what SE can't or is not willing to do.
Lastly, as we all lost all respect for the SE you will gain a respect and recognition among all of us that would live forever in hearts and minds of us, poor Xperia users.
Help by spreading it!
LOL @ $10.000?
i think its $10000
Depends what country you are in, most european countries use decimals instead of commas and vice versa.
eg 1,500.55 vs 1.500,55
Back on topic, £20 from me
So far its:
2066$
30 +20 £
50 €
We are far from 4000.It would be great but not yet.
it would be best to keep donating in the original thread.
I think that the only way money will help, is if we are able to get an open bootloader, and a way to flash it easily, without extra hardware - probably from a current/previous SE programmer, or someone similar.
Devs probably won't buy the phone (X10, x10 mini or pro) unless they like it.
Also an SE programmer is likely to be able to access all of the x10 bootloaders if they can get to at least one.
the approach is wrong dude ... for $10.000 we should be able to bribe some se coder in giving us the infos/software we need ... just a thought ...
KingCifer said:
the approach is wrong dude ... for $10.000 we should be able to bribe some se coder in giving us the infos/software we need ... just a thought ...
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This would be the easy way but who knows a SE insider?
berbecverde said:
This would be the easy way but who knows a SE insider?
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I am one now give me the damn money!
Seriously though, saying $10,000 is a long shot
I think you can only make promises you can keep
Gawd SE are EVIL
I thought Nokia was bad
KingCifer said:
the approach is wrong dude ... for $10.000 we should be able to bribe some se coder in giving us the infos/software we need ... just a thought ...
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Now this Idea I like !!!!
Hi guys,
I'm a newbee. I saw you're thread. Does someone try to seach on linkedin for instance to find any SE developpers?
Best regards,
Ced
shall i start the negotiations ?
I've tried contacting a couple, waiting for replies but don't get your hopes up lol
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shall i start the negotiations ?
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Negotiations?What do you have in mind?
I'll definitely give away $50 bucks for the developer(s) that accomplish this! 2.2 on my xperia would be so wonderful!
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shall i start the negotiations ?
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Won't work, not in a way we could use dontions anyway. The bootloader is locked becuse of DRM and other legal reasons and I seriously doubt anyone with the stuff we need would risk breaking the NDA they had to sign to work on it. The lawsuit they'd be slapped with would be massive and even a hundred times what we're able to pledge wouldn't be able to sort that out.
Money is tracable, especially online donations. Something like a wikileaks submission could work, anonymously providing the docs but then who would get the cash?
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hei friends i have for you the unlock code for the spv-m3100
if you bought from ebay or even not from ebay from anywhere you got it and you just wish to unlock it for SIM free worlwide
send me the IMEI and the serial number to private message ill check it and come back to you.
if i can do the job you will be asked to paypal me 19.95 gbp for the job.
your money will be fully refunded in case i cant get the code for some reson
and that a promise
in any case try me and see i am real.
Go Screw a goat.
sorry if this offends any one else
i'm just p-ed off with people like this guy
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Go Screw a goat.
sorry if this offends any one else
i'm just p-ed off with people like this guy
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I'm also pi*sed!
I think the first reply in http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=355932&highlight=#355932 sums it up.
kevino said:
I think the first reply in http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=355932&highlight=#355932 sums it up.
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thanks mate for the help
pitty people in the forum talk ugly and say bad things like this
but this is the world and then people will not understand why the world became so violent !~!!!
thanks
moti
Totally agree with you over sphings's comments. But I don't see how the post I pointed to is offensive.
I know you did really help people out (for a fee!) for one device, when I don't believe there was any other way to unlock it.
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i never said your post was offensive !!!!
sphings said:
krassen said:
Go Screw a goat.
sorry if this offends any one else
i'm just p-ed off with people like this guy
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He's a jew ...
Jew's know how to make money ...
Share the way with us or pi*s off ...
I'm also pi*sed!
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In Bulgaria they still screwing goats?
And for the other one you are a Kraut and Krauts makes always war as we can see, this is the same redicilus statement as you both make above!
Motin keep on going you can serve a lot of people, my opnion if you not intersted in this service don't react specially not with insolds.
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thanks for the support i was only planing to help and not in any way heart or abuse any one but pepole here get a stage to talk and this is very bad.
i hope the site managers cut them out they do not match the guys that are ussaly supporting this site.
in any case i say again my soltion cost me so how can i give it free.
if you can get your self a code or even hack it some how you are most then welcome to use that free way .
have a great weekend to all of you .
Signal-NOISE balance is always important.
If you have too much noise you can't hear the signal
!!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxx!!!!!!! means LOT of HYPE and your proposal is just advertising in an expert forum (noise).
Also you want money to do something not legal in all europe (at least).
We are developers, interested in code developing, in reverse engineering, publish your software for free, and it will be interesting, otherwise you are only a xxxxxxx (anything you can imagine) trying to make some illegal money.
Forum could be closed for this so please go xxxxxx someware else, son (of........ topic)
full of crap
you are full of crap go look for other places to publish your ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Can remove simlock from HTC Raphael and from any other HTC devices.
This service is not free.
Please send me a Private Message for details.
P.S. you do not need to reflash, disassebly, hard reset your device!
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Can remove simlock from HTC Raphael and from any other HTC devices.
This service is not free.
Please send me a Private Message for details.
P.S. you do not need to reflash, disassebly, hard reset your device!
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You can call your service provider and have them unlock it
they have to unlock it if you request
Nice try though
First of all not all providers give you the unlock code. Even if they do they have contract terms and conditions which have to be satisfied before they give you the unlock code like you must have completed 6 months of the contract..
Secondly the unlock code wont be available to you instantly, you must wait for 15 days to 1 month before you get the code.
Third :- You must be the owner of the phone + contract for them to give you the code ( This is where most people miss out)
its a shame to put advertisement like this in a forum that consists of people trying to get this same feature for free ...
you should share the info or just go to e-bay !
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da_jojo said:
its a shame to put advertisement like this in a forum that consists of people trying to get this same feature for free ...
you should share the info or just go to e-bay !
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Whilst I may agree with you, this same argument is raised every time a new HTC phone is released and Tupisdin offers a paid for unlock for it.
You have the choice to not take him up on his offer and wait for a free version to be created; he simply offers a service for those who need it now.
you and many others...
funny he got the phone whilst it not even being released..
i'd probably better off ignoring this
you are so right
guys plz don't take this one like the diamond one.
the money charged by tupisdin is going to the forum and not into his pocket, so that's generous.
well if thats the case i'll pay directly to the forum show him the confirmation note and he can give it to me freely then?
People this is legit, the moderators and admin know about this and the only currency changing hands goes directly to the forum as a donation.
END of story.
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Can remove simlock from HTC Raphael and from any other HTC devices.
This service is not free.
Please send me a Private Message for details.
P.S. you do not need to reflash, disassebly, hard reset your device!
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shame on you man, put this for free and donation paypal link
mrvanx said:
People this is legit, the moderators and admin know about this and the only currency changing hands goes directly to the forum as a donation.
END of story.
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well if thats the case then there is no issue with me giving the money directly to the site and getting the unlock. why complicate things?
I dont actually need an unlock but this guys has been just about as shady as the European Unions financial records, we should have access to all details of the transfers of this money....if he is to be believed that is.
enduromen said:
shame on you man, put this for free and donation paypal link
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theres no free lunch today , not even, you have seen many free solutions, but not this one, if you are in a hurry and dont want to pay, ha ha ha you have to forget about unlocking raphael, its too new and, very expencive to unlock at this time. thats the life just get over it. and dont forget about all the free stuff xda-dev has given you.
and i know tupisdin is a real gentleman and already helped loads of xda-dev members. and you can trust him 100% to get your raphael unlocked
you know, a few years ago that was exactly why this forum existed to HELP people do this stuff, funny thing is people still donated money because it was a great place to be, that was back in the day when folk were trying to get thinks like WM05 running on WM2003se, or 2003 running on 2002, buz lightyear did some fantastic work and never asked for a penny, people donated to him and im sure folk have given him old devices as well.
That has changed, sadely, perhaps we need an XDA developers pro or something because this is not the place it originally designed as
buzz
buzz............ capitol, grand expert and man.
What I have been asking, how is Tupisdin getting the unlock codes? Is he working for htc, or does he have a calculator or something...
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What I have been asking, how is Tupisdin getting the unlock codes? Is he working for htc, or does he have a calculator or something...
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And i very much doubt you will get an answer.
I have no doubt he either works for HTC, or knows someone who does, like many others here who currently do or have in the past.
But the bottom line is, that he is able to sim unlock them, he charges for it which he then donates to xda-devs. if you do not want to pay, then don't. Wait until someone else creates a free version.
As for things having changed, maybe not so much. the number of people who donate or try and help is still tiny compared to the number of people who come here and leech, and flame, and ***** when they kill their device cos they didn't read the instructions properly. and sadly the number of people like this has increased dramatically over the last few years as these devices get more popular.
And besides, for most of the guys here who develop stuff (like Olipro, Cmonex, schaps and many others), they work damn hard so why the hell shouldn't they get a little something for it? Would you go to work and expect not to get paid??
OK everyone has said thier piece, nothing has been on topic since I requested it to be so sorry folks, thread over........tupisdin you can create another one if you so wish but it seems the majority of people want a free ride!? shame really.
Thread Closed.
Even tho I don't have the device and there is not a recovery yet, I am already working hard on a rom for all of you Fascinate people :] Just check back on this post every so often for the release. I will probably release it when Koush releases his recovery for the Fascinate. Pretty much what this is going to do is de-bloat your phone, fully deodex it and other little things here and there. If you want more roms like this for the Fascinate please donate and buy me one here.
Check back here for updates :]
Very cool! Were your other roms froyo?
I have no problem donating to you. I'm just waiting for a recovery to come along first.
Sent while on the go using Tapatalk.
So this rom wont have froyo?
steeeler said:
Very cool! Were your other roms froyo?
I have no problem donating to you. I'm just waiting for a recovery to come along first.
Sent while on the go using Tapatalk.
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Yeah my other roms were froyo. This wont be froyo yet, I am just going to play around with the system folder for the first 2 releases. Then comes the fun :]
Pretty much a second post of your other "please give me money"... Great that you want to develop a ROM but I am sure I'm not the only one to think you are really just fishing for some money (unlike a lot of other ROM developers who do GREAT work without even asking for a dime)
Isn't the whole "pay me now for work later" something we all learned at a young age never worked out well?
Matt, if you want to do something useful, besides shuffle some icons around and rename system files, come help work out the kernel / source compilation issue(s). Once that's done we'll still have to develop the recovery.
There's no point even discussing custom roms without a custom recovery.
Until then, this is like paying full price for a pre-order for a device that hasn't even been announced.
IMO, this thread should be locked at this point.
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Pretty much a second post of your other "please give me money"... Great that you want to develop a ROM but I am sure I'm not the only one to think you are really just fishing for some money (unlike a lot of other ROM developers who do GREAT work without even asking for a dime)
Isn't the whole "pay me now for work later" something we all learned at a young age never worked out well?
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God damn, I'm not fishing for money. What the hell. Wow....I am trying to work on a rom for when the damn recovery comes out and people are giving me ****? I am trying to help what the hell. Wow.
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Matt, if you want to do something useful, besides shuffle some icons around and rename system files, come help work out the kernel / source compilation issue(s). Once that's done we'll still have to develop the recovery.
There's no point even discussing custom roms without a custom recovery.
Until then, this is like paying full price for a pre-order for a device that hasn't even been announced.
IMO, this thread should be locked at this point.
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Actually I do a lot more than that so dont be a ass. I am actually going to work on the kernel **** -_- Damn.
wstcoaster07 said:
Pretty much a second post of your other "please give me money"... Great that you want to develop a ROM but I am sure I'm not the only one to think you are really just fishing for some money (unlike a lot of other ROM developers who do GREAT work without even asking for a dime)
Isn't the whole "pay me now for work later" something we all learned at a young age never worked out well?
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Have you even seen his past work? Obviously you haven't, because if you had, you would know Matt is sure to do some great work. It's pretty hard to develop a ROM for a phone he doesn't have though, hence, he's asking for donations.
If you don't have the means to donate that's not a problem - no one is expecting you to of course, but don't give a developer **** because he wants to make this phone better.
Matt4542 said:
Actually I do a lot more than that so dont be a ass. I am actually going to work on the kernel **** -_- Damn.
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I agree cut the man some slack im sure he does great work and he said he would release it AFTER a custom recovery is out. Keep doing what you're doing dont let what some people are saying bother you.
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Have you even seen his past work? Obviously you haven't, because if you had, you would know Matt is sure to do some great work. It's pretty hard to develop a ROM for a phone he doesn't have though, hence, he's asking for donations.
If you don't have the means to donate that's not a problem - no one is expecting you to of course, but don't give a developer **** because he wants to make this phone better.
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I did not mean for this and the other thread to turn into a flame war. I just know that in the android community, a lot of users have been burned by donating to "devs" (chefs) and then the "dev" bails.
The work he has done on the Droid 2 does seem to be good for that phone, and thats what that phone needs. The fascinate though, is a different beast. More power to him if he wants to help. But begging for people to help him buy a phone before we even have a means to install his roms leaves a cheap taste in my mouth.
I want to thank any dev that has interest in developing / cooking up roms for the phone, as people will enjoy their phone more. I just ask that said devs wait for people to finish developing a simple and safe way to install the rom. I released a rom for the fascinate last week that had most of the bloatware removed, but the only way to flash it is by odin, not a preferred / safe way to flash the rom.
Just hold your horses. we will have a recovery soon, and like i said in the other thread, then you can do what you want with your money. But i assure you, we will have a lot in store for the users once that hurdle is passed.
Umm... get donations from the d1 and d2 work that you've already done, buy a Fascinate, create ROMs for that, and THEN (if it's a halfway decent job) people will donate without you even needing to ask them. Why ask people to pay for something that you haven't even done yet but then reassure them it'll happen because of your other work? If what you did with the d1/2 is good then shouldn't you be able to get donations from that? I'm not accusing you of trying to scam people I'm just telling you what seems to make the most sense.
I agree with everyone else why not use the donations from your other devices to get the Fascinate then when you make a rom that is as amazing as you say people will donate and you will come out on top. Yes I have seen your work as I have had several droids and my wife has a droid2. Have you seen Cyanogen's work? Or how about the other cooks? Why should we buy you a phone and not them? I have donated to lots of cooks but never before a product was available and not even a promise of first beta tests or anything, no deadline? Come on, man! Like the other member said would you pay mercedes (we have all seen there work ) money to build a factory on the promise that when it is done being built they will give you a car that may or may not be to your liking. I have to say your other roms werent my taste but they were very good. Having said that I am looking forward to donating once roms are available, nothing personal I have nothing against your screen name which is really all I see it just has to do with my own preference.
On another note I remember when this actually resembled an open source community (i.e. the linux community) I googled your name and every single forum there is something with you asking for donations, I understand you have to call them donations because of the license but lets face it you are selling products. Thats not really what opensource is about.
Sorry for the rant everyone, no hard feelings
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I agree with everyone else why not use the donations from your other devices to get the Fascinate then when you make a rom that is as amazing as you say people will donate and you will come out on top. Yes I have seen your work as I have had several droids and my wife has a droid2. Have you seen Cyanogen's work? Or how about the other cooks? Why should we buy you a phone and not them? I have donated to lots of cooks but never before a product was available and not even a promise of first beta tests or anything, no deadline? Come on, man! Like the other member said would you pay mercedes (we have all seen there work ) money to build a factory on the promise that when it is done being built they will give you a car that may or may not be to your liking. I have to say your other roms werent my taste but they were very good. Having said that I am looking forward to donating once roms are available, nothing personal I have nothing against your screen name which is really all I see it just has to do with my own preference.
On another note I remember when this actually resembled an open source community (i.e. the linux community) I googled your name and every single forum there is something with you asking for donations, I understand you have to call them donations because of the license but lets face it you are selling products. Thats not really what opensource is about.
Sorry for the rant everyone, no hard feelings
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Are you serious? I only started asking for donations like a week or two ago and I have been developing roms for a few months.
I'm just excited we're close to seeing some dev work. I wholeheartedly believe in donation as a support system for development. I do not however donate to theory.
I will be throwing some paypal love once I see some good dev work on here.
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Are you serious? I only started asking for donations like a week or two ago and I have been developing roms for a few months.
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Matt, Don't take this the wrong way. I do think you're a good and honest developer based on comments i've read on the ROM you've done on Droid. I've been around this forum for a long time and have given my hard earned cash to many worthy developers and others. Donations typically are to support a website, finance a developer for his time, and/or buy hardware needed, etc... This forum has changed a bit in the last decade and some here may not understand how this all works. We do this as either an investment or a reward. Reputation is everything though. And that is why some here are hammering you.
Since you're new to us, if you don't mind, introduce yourself, tell us your skillsets, tell us what you bring to the table? Alot of us are tech heads and would appreciate that.
This website changed once Android became popular. The WinMo community was smaller and calmer. Android has blown everything up.
orateam said:
Matt, Don't take this the wrong way. I do think you're a good and honest developer based on comments i've read on the ROM you've done on Droid. I've been around this forum for a long time and have given my hard earned cash to many worthy developers and others. Donations typically are to support a website, finance a developer for his time, and/or buy hardware needed, etc... This forum has changed a bit in the last decade and some here may not understand how this all works. We do this as either an investment or a reward. Reputation is everything though. And that is why some here are hammering you.
Since you're new to us, if you don't mind, introduce yourself, tell us your skillsets, tell us what you bring to the table? Alot of us are tech heads and would appreciate that.
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This website changed once Android became popular. The WinMo community was smaller and calmer. Android has blown everything up.
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eh, i remember a lot of drama going on in the CDMA forums all the time. We had chefs that would rip off of other chefs and claim it as their own just to get more donations / money for their "work"
I have never asked for donations, as the work i do is to better my own phone so why not help everyone else? I just started posting a link to make a donation to world vision in my new posts, because if people are willing to donate, why not have them donate to a great cause?
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I have never asked for donations, as the work i do is to better my own phone so why not help everyone else? I just started posting a link to make a donation to world vision in my new posts, because if people are willing to donate, why not have them donate to a great cause?
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The good ol pocket PC days. Trying to make WinMo 5 act like a reasonable touchscreen interface. I remember using the kitchens to experiment and make my own custom ROM's. We all made windows CE registry tweaks to do all kinds of things. Windows was easier to program for. I had many custom programs that i openly shared directly with users (M$ didn't like us sharing). I hope Android users get that this is simply a labor of love for us hobbyists. If i wanted a phone i wouldn't customize much but had a lot of features, i'd stay with the iPhone. I've been playing with APPDeveloper to get my feet wet, and soon will have some custom programs myself once i get off it and transfer to eclipse coding.
development fascinate
Matt..
How much will it take for you to get a phone to use for development? now that we have a recovery available......
For thoughs who doubt it it brings me fourth to say good luck but I can see so many wonderfulll Roms and Mods lmao roll my eyes LOL. To all you little boys with your gaming phones who wanted to talk down I can say what have you done. To thoughs who did donate Or asked to test in pm you will recieve the first edition tonight in your email all we are doing now is locking it so you must be vailidated with the email you provided. I will send you a password. Thanks for the support and sorry to all thoughs who were affected by the dumb a.... Below also we did not ask for just donations as we were explaining we needed tester. Ps3 rom launches tonight. For certain few that were luky to catch my other webpage. We no longer will be rediculed on this website so we will be moving and I will send a email with the other webpage.
Team RUD
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=2UFB8AQHY98E4
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We are accepting donations for team rud. Team Rud is a newer development team made of 4great devs. We currently are working on all sorts of things for the xperia. We have almost been able to complete a rom with overclocking. If you are intrested in helping us with donations or also testing please send a pm. Donation link below.. We are very close to a release everyone will be sure to love. It's hard to develop for a phone we do not have. Also we will be trying to develop a Ps network tool app that will allow your phone to interact with friends online this is a big challenge but not impossible. The ps3 software can be mocked. Thanks For The Help.
Team RUD
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=2UFB8AQHY98E4
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Nice Try we have overclock already blah blah blah and doesnt the psn app allow all that
Double post ........
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Double post ........
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If you would like to test pm me don't doubt we will just quit working on this phone. We are trying to bring ps3 to the play so I would appreciate if your eyes would roll somewhere else.
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We are trying to bring ps3 to the play
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PS3? As in Playstation 3? Nope.avi
I do doubt you. If that urks you, prove me wrong. Post some screens, videos, etc. For now, I'm calling you a fake and you can "stop" "work" if you want. We have enough good and dedicated developers. If you are truly a developer and not a faker, we don't need anyone who asks for money before showing any work. If we like your work, we will donate, not the other way around.
So, first we hand out the cash, and then we see the "goods"? That's not how it works, sorry. Show us what you can do, like yifanlu has done with his PSXperia project, and then you can ask for donations.
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So, first we hand out the cash, and then we see the "goods"? That's not how it works, sorry. Show us what you can do, like yifanlu has done with his PSXperia project, and then you can ask for donations.
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First time today we have agreed
We may have glitches, but we're all civil people at the end of the day
yifanlu said:
I do doubt you. If that urks you, prove me wrong. Post some screens, videos, etc. For now, I'm calling you a fake and you can "stop" "work" if you want. We have enough good and dedicated developers. If you are truly a developer and not a faker, we don't need anyone who asks for money before showing any work. If we like your work, we will donate, not the other way around.
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I agree with Yifanlu. Dont try scamming us with your current 16 post count. what 4 great devs are you referring to? explain better and maybe you wont get shot down.
You should have seen what they did to the so called Sony Ericsson Rep we had in here.
They tore him to pieces.
ashergray said:
I agree with Yifanlu. Dont try scamming us with your current 16 post count. what 4 great devs are you referring to? explain better and maybe you wont get shot down.
You should have seen what they did to the so called Sony Ericsson Rep we had in here.
They tore him to pieces.
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You make us sound like we're a violent cult
By the way yifan stole that work and also ported so good luck with your great devs LOL
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Do you intend to prove anything of what you're saying (which now amounts to a supposed... dunno what, and that Yifanlu lies), or is it just cold where you live and you want to take some heat?
RomUrDrOID said:
By the way yifan stole that work and also ported so good luck with your great devs LOL
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Proof or GTFO
LOL
Not even SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT could bring PS3 to Xperia Play.
You should stop puffing so hard on the crack pipe.
Obviously Yifanlu stole PSXPERIA from you master coders who managed to emulate the cell processor within the Xperia Play..... COOL STORY BRO.
@all
DO NOT DISCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT/NEW DEVELOPERS!
RomUrDrOID said:
For thoughs who doubt it it brings me fourth to say good luck but I can see so many wonderfulll Roms and Mods lmao roll my eyes LOL. To all you little boys with your gaming phones who wanted to talk down I can say what have you done. To thoughs who did donate Or asked to test in pm you will recieve the first edition tonight in your email all we are doing now is locking it so you must be vailidated with the email you provided. I will send you a password. Thanks for the support and sorry to all thoughs who were affected by the dumb a.... Below also we did not ask for just donations as we were explaining we needed tester. Ps3 rom launches tonight. For certain few that were luky to catch my other webpage. We no longer will be rediculed on this website so we will be moving and I will send a email with the other webpage.
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hi there... i dont know wht has been going on but i would suggest that may be u can publicly release the test version... the more ppl test the merrier
easier to know/find bugs/etc..
and if they like wht they see then obviously they will donate
P.S.: even i dont have a Play but i try my best to develop for this device
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@all
DO NOT DISCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT/NEW DEVELOPERS!
hi there... i dont know wht has been going on but i would suggest that may be u can publicly release the test version... the more ppl test the merrier
easier to know/find bugs/etc..
and if they like wht they see then obviously they will donate
P.S.: even i dont have a Play but i try my best to develop for this device
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I also encourage you to release a version and screen shots.
I welcome new development and would very much like to see the progress you have made
DooMLoRD said:
@all
DO NOT DISCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT/NEW DEVELOPERS!
hi there... i dont know wht has been going on but i would suggest that may be u can publicly release the test version... the more ppl test the merrier
easier to know/find bugs/etc..
and if they like wht they see then obviously they will donate
P.S.: even i dont have a Play but i try my best to develop for this device
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Like I said, if the guy gives ANY proof, I will gladly admit that I was wrong and apologize (after all, we are all civil here). However, for example, some random guy you never seen before knocks at your door and asks for money in exchange for something amazing in the future, you'd think he's crazy. I'm judging a book by it's cover here, but that's not always wrong. Again, I still don't believe in this guy, but if he proves me wrong, I will gladly and publicly apologize.
And some advice to op. If you want to insult me, please try (try) to use proper english. That way we can have an argument or debate like a couple of adults and not scream at each other like children. Don't say it's not your first language or you don't know it well (I understand those people), because I know. I don't care how you write otherwise, but keep that in mind when you want to argue with me.
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I also encourage you to release a version and screen shots.
I welcome new development and would very much like to see the progress you have made
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u can ask the ppl who use my kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176502
for screenshots..
i dont have device so i cant make screenshots
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DO NOT DISCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT
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in order to discourage development, development has to exist in the first place. What we have seen from this guy is not development, it's bad spelling, baseless accusations and mockery to other users. I'm all for discouraging those things.
I am sure most of you here know about DoomLord!
He is an experienced developer and has done great works for many previous Xperia Models! Do check his signature in the link below.
We (SXS owners) are all waiting for DoomLord to get an SXS in his hands! But unfortunately its not yet launched in his country. He couldn't wait any more for it and he just bought an 'HTC One X' today!
Link Here!
SXS is a great mobile. And with developers like DoomLord we can expect great things in the mobile. Now we just have to donate some money to him so that he can get an SXS and start development in it. What say buddies?
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Thanks to the following who donated DoomLord to get him an SXS.
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bognik 10
cngn 100
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black97one 40
huss66 15
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Gyrael 10
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jimi83 10
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poo-tang (Xperia Gamer) 40
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DoomLord is a very very talented developer, I really hope we could donate the money he need to buy his own SXS!
I also think we all should write to Sony and tell them to donate a phone for him! Just as they have done with other phones to other devs!
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Yeah. I read somewhere that Sony had donated some mobiles to CyanogenMod team for development purpose. But I wonder how we can contact Sony!
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Kingcool88 said:
DoomLord is a very very talented developer, I really hope we could donate the money he need to buy his own SXS!
I also think we all should write to Sony and tell them to donate a phone for him! Just as they have done with other phones to other devs!
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i already contacted Sony a few weeks back... they said that their device loaning program is not available in India
P.S. regarding donating a device... there is no pressure guys... if the community wants they can, else no big deal...
Yes, I will make a donation...Uh oh, i just did it!
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Yes, I will make a donation...Uh oh, i just did it!
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Thanks mate but please hold on till most of the community decides about this... I don't want your donations to go to waste incase the donations fall short...
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I wouldn't mind donating if Doom actually will continually develop for the S. As he is more interested in the One X (Yea, I read the India thread, because I read all the threads for the S to see whats going on) I am afraid that he would develop more for the One X and leave S more or less in the dark.
So if Doom commits to developing his kernal and such for the S as well, I will be willing. But at this point in time, I am not interested in contributing in buying a phone for someone who may/may not be doing steady (read: things every once in awhile, and making full working, not rushed products) development for the phone.
I'm not saying that I don't trust you Doom, I just don't know you as a person and I'm not one for giving money into a potential hole and not get a result . So I will also wait and see where this thread goes .
Nothing personal, I know you are one of the best developers for sony/SE devices, I'm just a careful person
im sure majority of people here would be happy to donate, if everyone donated like a few dollars im sure it'd be enough
This is very well worth it. We have seen first hand he does not favorite 1 particular device. He spreads his work over all his device's. Someone needs to set up a donation system. As we need doom here with xperia S. There's only so much he can do without the device. He's time spend with kernels for past xperia's is the sort of experience we need. No doubt we will see lots of Rom makers but all roms need kernels so it makes perfect sense.
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Is there a way to set up a donation system where the money is pledged but only actually taken when a goal is reached. That way we could all 'donate' but if the goal is never reached, we wouldn't actually be paying.
3Shirts said:
Is there a way to set up a donation system where the money is pledged but only actually taken when a goal is reached. That way we could all 'donate' but if the goal is never reached, we wouldn't actually be paying.
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yes u are right... so we can have something like "pledges", where in users who are willing to donate put up pledges of the amount they are willing to donate... if the final pledges come to target amount only then everyone can start donating...
in my opinion this is a very transparent way where in everyone knows clearly what is going on...
we did this for the Xperia Play and it worked out well... u can ask the whole Xperia Play community for the development support i give...
i am very much interested in Xperia S but stupid Sony has delayed its launch here in India... i had already begun work for custom kernels, everything was nicely setup (kernel sources, patches, git repos) but this weird bootloader issue is annoying, else u guys would have had a working custom kernel 2 weeks back
BUT again i want to remind everyone that this is totally upto the community... i am not forcing anyone to donate, nor am i begging for a device i already develop for the Xperia Arc, Play and just bought the HTC One X so i am already very happy with the devices i have ...
I remember for the X10 there was a sort of pledge thread created when they were trying to crack the bootloader (or was it GB? I cant remember anymore :/)...
I don't remember how it worked out, but I remember there was quite a list compiled, it just takes some monitoring from the starter, but I think even a paypal account was created and monitored, and the transaction codes were monitored and such.
It was a pretty advanced system, because I remember the payments had to even get sent back at some point, but that turned out okay...
I suppose something like that could work, its just gotta get looked into all there needs to be is a target, and someone willing to monitor a thread and/or the paypal account in case the target isnt met. If the target isn't met, it's simply a matter of reversing all the funds.
The paypal account could also be repurposed into other goals (ie: Further developments, etc etc..)
3Shirts said:
Is there a way to set up a donation system where the money is pledged but only actually taken when a goal is reached. That way we could all 'donate' but if the goal is never reached, we wouldn't actually be paying.
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Have seen this done before. But we have to hope that all xperia S owners are truthful and we Have no bad pledges that don't get paid up. What would be nice is a sticky thread name and shame list. Come on people lets show are support.
Our site xperiagamer.com will be putting out some tweets today to help get people's attention. Lets make this happen
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poo-tang said:
Have seen this done before. But we have to hope that all xperia S owners are truthful and we Have no bad pledges that don't get paid up. What would be nice is a sticky thread name and shame list. Come on people lets show are support.
Our site xperiagamer.com will be putting out some tweets today to help get people's attention. Lets make this happen
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heheh "shame list"
thanks mate for ur continuing support!
shmoejoe said:
I remember for the X10 there was a sort of pledge thread created when they were trying to crack the bootloader (or was it GB? I cant remember anymore :/)...
I don't remember how it worked out, but I remember there was quite a list compiled, it just takes some monitoring from the starter, but I think even a paypal account was created and monitored, and the transaction codes were monitored and such.
It was a pretty advanced system, because I remember the payments had to even get sent back at some point, but that turned out okay...
I suppose something like that could work, its just gotta get looked into all there needs to be is a target, and someone willing to monitor a thread and/or the paypal account in case the target isnt met. If the target isn't met, it's simply a matter of reversing all the funds.
The paypal account could also be repurposed into other goals (ie: Further developments, etc etc..)
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thats a great idea...
the thing is here, in India, the Reserve bank has some strange laws because of which ppl cant send money using paypal outside of India... so in case the whole community shows interest i can talk to a few of my friends who stay in UK/USA to see how we can work this out so that incase the funds have to be reversed there wont be an issue...
I know DoomLord from 2 years ago and he is the best Kernels maker and i am ready to donate.
PS don't worry guys he can work on multiple devices at the same time trust me
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the thing is here, in India, the Reserve bank has some strange laws because of which ppl cant send money using paypal outside of India... so in case the whole community shows interest i can talk to a few of my friends who stay in UK/USA to see how we can work this out so that incase the funds have to be reversed there wont be an issue...
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Bizarre to have such a rule, PayPal isn't fully cooperative and Sony won't lend you a device, thats just....annoying :/
Well let's see where the thread goes this week, and if the support is there, than it won't hurt to give it a try. No doubt we will find a use for the PayPal account after you get the phone, and even for later devices, a general -Xperia Development- account would come in handy.
Let just put down the amount we wish to donate and when it reaches the target, we proceed to donate the $ to him.
I've seen and used the kernel he developed for my previous arc and it's great!
Let get the ball rolling!
us$5 from me.
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20 US $ from me.
$15 from me
Let keep it coming .....
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