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Is the USB to Micro USB cable used by the SGP 4 or 5 a proprietary cable to this specific device? I have read several posts here and on other forums that some cables don't work or some chargers with micro USB connections don't charge the SGP. Is there something special in the wiring of the cable that comes with the SGP. I would like a spare cable and a car charger, but want to be sure I am getting one that will work.
Thanks.
Been wondering this myself, I read a write up on another forum with a lot of different specs amongst different micro usb samsung chargers it made my head spin.....I read that they(Phone manufactures) will be making a micro-usb standard next year amongst phone manufactures that should eliminate this issue....I have a LG micro usb charger that does nothing for my galaxy player.
I've been using a short USB to microUSB cable from Sandisk intended for their Clip Zip players. No problems charging or transferring data to the SGP 5.0.
TonyBigs said:
I've been using a short USB to microUSB cable from Sandisk intended for their Clip Zip players. No problems charging or transferring data to the SGP 5.0.
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could you post a picture of this? like plug in the clip zip through the usb to the sgp 5
The AC and car chargers for my Verizon LG Revere phone will both charge the SGP 4. The connector is a commonly-used mini USB standard, shaped like the letter 'D' when viewed from the end.
Has anyone actually gone out and bought a cable or charger for the SGP5 that works? It is nice that this or that phone or device's cable and charger work -but if you don't own that phone or device to get the cable or charger from, it does not help. And Samsung does not seem to offer OEM cables or chargers on their site.
SGP needs micro-usb with data shorted to gnd to charge
Just like my Toshiba TG01, the SGP needs a micro-usb connection with the data pin shorted to ground in order to charge correctly. In the Samsung charger that comes with the US version, the charging cable is a straight micro-usb data connector, which means the charger must have the data pin shorted. This way, the cable itself can be plugged into the PC for data transfer. Personally, I have hacked up an adapter (female USB to male USB) which has the two pins shorted, so I can plug the adapter in-line with the data cable into any USB port that supplies a regulated 5V, and the SGP will charge. Otherwise, you need to make sure the charger has the proper implementation of the shorted data pins.
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Just like my Toshiba TG01, the SGP needs a micro-usb connection with the data pin shorted to ground in order to charge correctly. In the Samsung charger that comes with the US version, the charging cable is a straight micro-usb data connector, which means the charger must have the data pin shorted. This way, the cable itself can be plugged into the PC for data transfer. Personally, I have hacked up an adapter (female USB to male USB) which has the two pins shorted, so I can plug the adapter in-line with the data cable into any USB port that supplies a regulated 5V, and the SGP will charge. Otherwise, you need to make sure the charger has the proper implementation of the shorted data pins.
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I understand what you are saying but not sure how to implement it to make an adapter such as you have. Do you short the D+ and D- wires in the adapter cable to the ground wire - touch (connect) all three together?
I have been using the charging cable for my LG cosmos 2 and it works fine. I have, however, only used it for charging, not data.
Aurally said:
Just like my Toshiba TG01, the SGP needs a micro-usb connection with the data pin shorted to ground in order to charge correctly. In the Samsung charger that comes with the US version, the charging cable is a straight micro-usb data connector, which means the charger must have the data pin shorted. This way, the cable itself can be plugged into the PC for data transfer. Personally, I have hacked up an adapter (female USB to male USB) which has the two pins shorted, so I can plug the adapter in-line with the data cable into any USB port that supplies a regulated 5V, and the SGP will charge. Otherwise, you need to make sure the charger has the proper implementation of the shorted data pins.
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Wouldn't all USB port chargers - by that I mean a car charger with a usb port in it or a wall charger with a usb port in it, have the data pins disconnected or shorted out as they are made for charging only and of course, no data transfer?
My Optimus-V cable does not work for charging or USB.
My car charger for my Optimus does not charge my SGP5.
My Logitech Mouse cable does charge my SGP5, but USB to PC does not work.
I have a car charger ordered not received yet, 50-50 shot at working.
A "standard" would be nice!
That's odd... Nearly all Samsung devices (except for Tabs) follow the USB charging standard, which is that D+ and D- need to be shorted together by the charger to indicate a dumb charger.
iPad/iPhone chargers don't do this - iDevices do NOT follow the standard.
Can anyone else tell me if they have any issues charging the sony xperia using an adapter other than the one supplied?
I have one that I use for everything, iphone, kindle, garmin watch, sansa mp3 player. Yet when I hook up the sony usb charger cable to it the battery light blinks and viewing in the battery section of settings shows it alternating between 'charging' and 'discharging' at the same frequency as the flashing light. This frequency is roughly 1 second. I managed to stabalise the charging on this OEM adapter once. It always charges perfectly on the supplied adapter.
Also I have a portable 5V charger that again I use for all my gadgets as listed above. They all work fine. Not the sony tablet. 'Charging is not supported with this accessory' I'm told this time.
This tablet is looking worse and worse to me. The fact that this tablet was supposed to be bog standard 5V and came with the usb setup (making it simple to use with my portable charger) was one of the major reasons I bought it. Yet I can only use the supplied adapter and am stuck to the A/C supply.
Anyone else seeing similar problems?
Problem? Sony tableyt s dont use the usb port for battery charging
Sent from my Sony Tablet S using xda app-developers app
Hernan1978 said:
Problem? Sony tableyt s dont use the usb port for battery charging
Sent from my Sony Tablet S using xda app-developers app
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Anyone that owns the tablet will understand what I am saying. The charger cable comes in a 2 piece. A usb to proprietary connector lead and an A/C adapter. You connect the proprietary end of the cable to the tablet. You connect the full USB connector end of the the cable to the adapter. You plug the adapter into the mains and it charges your tablet.
What I am saying is that if I use an alternate A/C adapter (i.e. one that accepts a USB connection and is rated for 1.5 amps and 5V) it does not charge the tablet correctly. I can't see why this would be as these adapters are all supposed to be built to a standard. Sony has something different in theirs I think. I believe it is non-standard.
(There is no USB port on the tablet so clearly this is not what I meant!!)
3rd Party Charger
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Anyone that owns the tablet will understand what I am saying. The charger cable comes in a 2 piece. A usb to proprietary connector lead and an A/C adapter. You connect the proprietary end of the cable to the tablet. You connect the full USB connector end of the the cable to the adapter. You plug the adapter into the mains and it charges your tablet.
What I am saying is that if I use an alternate A/C adapter (i.e. one that accepts a USB connection and is rated for 1.5 amps and 5V) it does not charge the tablet correctly. I can't see why this would be as these adapters are all supposed to be built to a standard. Sony has something different in theirs I think. I believe it is non-standard.
(There is no USB port on the tablet so clearly this is not what I meant!!)
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From what I understand we should be able to use a 3rd party charger if it can supply at least 1.5 amps of current at 5VDC. The only limitations that I have seen is some of the 3rd party iPad chargers (USB plugs) won't work with some android devices so the USB standard must not be as standard as one would tend to think. If your charger is blinking and intermittently charging there is a good chance that it can't sustain the current that the tablet is trying to draw.
Hey guys,
At the moment I don't have my USB cable and charger, so I tried it with a few other cables and chargers, but it doesn't charge :/ All have different amperes, 2,4A or 2A or 1,2A or 0,5A (TV and PC). Is there a solution for that?
mine charges with various cables and chargers fine, I normally switch from my samsung cable & charger, choetech cable & charger, xiaomi cable & charger - the cable it comes with is nothing different from a normal micro usb cable, except it has solid copper wires for the power / grounds, but any high quality micro usb cable should work, except it might charge a bit slower.
I have cables from Sony, Motorola, Samsung and zte, none of them works. On my old phones every cable and charger works, but as you said with a different charging speed. Thanks anyways
Hello all,
My Umi z charger cable has broken. Tried charging with One plus 3T charger but it doesn't work.
Anybody can recommend what charger cable shall work and where it shall be available?
I have no problem charging with any mix if cable and charger ..even standard USB chargers with adaptor to c fitting
Any decent USB A to USB C cable should work.
Use Nexus's usb cable
I have a Nexus 6P and I use the tiny cable they gave with the phone to charge Z pro with my laptop.
It charges pretty quickly with that cable on my laptop. But yea any decent cable would do. You can also order chargers on Umi's website.
I use this cable...
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01MY27YKY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
In principle, however, every cable should be suitable.
Make sure it is suitable for data transfer and loading.
Some cables have too much resistance, and then the charging time increases.
So I have the stock charger, a rather generic charge cable, a generic hdmi cable, and an Insignia NS-PU378CHM Usb-c to three port HDMI /USB 3.0 /USB-C power
The problem: when I hook up hdmi and am running DeX on my TV, the battery drains. Even with external power connected.
So I measure the current the charger is delivering, and when using the hdmi adaptor, I'm getting about 1/2 an amp. When I plug power in directly to the tablet, I get a full amp. Battery drains faster than it charges when using the adapter.
I don't know if I need a better charger, to suuply more current under load, a better hdmi adapter / power adapter, a better power cable (but the fact the cable supplies twice the current when plugged in directly suggests it isn't the cable).
Does anyone have a combo they use that keeps power from draining when running dex on hdmi?
Or should I figure it is impossible to supply enough current to keep the battery charged at 100% when running hdmi / dex?
Thanks,
Joe
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So I have the stock charger, a rather generic charge cable, a generic hdmi cable, and an Insignia NS-PU378CHM Usb-c to three port HDMI /USB 3.0 /USB-C power
The problem: when I hook up hdmi and am running DeX on my TV, the battery drains. Even with external power connected.
So I measure the current the charger is delivering, and when using the hdmi adaptor, I'm getting about 1/2 an amp. When I plug power in directly to the tablet, I get a full amp. Battery drains faster than it charges when using the adapter.
I don't know if I need a better charger, to suuply more current under load, a better hdmi adapter / power adapter, a better power cable (but the fact the cable supplies twice the current when plugged in directly suggests it isn't the cable).
Does anyone have a combo they use that keeps power from draining when running dex on hdmi?
Or should I figure it is impossible to supply enough current to keep the battery charged at 100% when running hdmi / dex?
Thanks,
Joe
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Check out this link https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-usb-c-hub-t3917848/post79289417#post79289417 This should supply enough power while using Dex via HDMI!
I'm recopying this from the Galaxy 9 thread referenced above in the hope someone here has tried this adaptor...
This thread is pretty old, but I'm finally looking at upgrading and have some questions about the Ugreen UCB C / USB 3.1 + HDMI Adaptor.
I'm looking at the USB C - 5 Port Adaptor here:
https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Adapte.../dp/B077FZQS95
In the notes it says that
USB C PD fast charging is only for laptops but not for phones. Phones only support normal charging.
Do NOT recommend you charge phone through USB 3.0 port as USB port only can only offer max 1.5A current and will charge your phone slowly
So I'm trying to figure out, is this like a powered USB hub that needs a PD brick to power the hub and then the hub powers the tabled (with 1.5A max), and separately powers the HDMI adaptor, UCB 3.1 devices etc., or is this a power-pass through that powers the tablet (slow) and then the tablet powers the USB devices?
In other words, is there an advantage to buying a $20-30 PD wall brick to power this hub, which the tablet doesn't support, or am I as good as I'm going to get with the original Samsung Lightning charger that came with the tablet?
Thanks,
Joe
I bought one of the U-Green hubs rated for 100W PD:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RW343WG/
This one has two USB 3.0 ports, a USB C charger-in port, HDMI, and two card readers, one full size SD, one micro-sd.
Because all of the documentation specifies it uses power delivery type chargers, I was worried it would have problems with a Samsung lightning charger. No problems. With the original lightning charger, the tablet recharges to and holds at 100% even when loaded by hdmi, an external hard drive, a USB thumb drive, and a micro sd card. The simpler / cheaper hub I bought when I got the tablet discharges when hdmi + the same charger is plugged in.
The reviews complained it gets hot enough to burn your finger when touched, but I haven't noticed this at all. This could be a function of the total power delivered to the hub I believe the lightning charger is only 15W. The hub is rated at 100W with PD cgarger. So only a fraction of the power is transmitted through the hub when charging with Samsung lightning charger. It seems most of the 100W is used to charge a PD laptop or Apple device, not the peripherals.
The one change I'd make to it, is that I'd like to have a spring loaded recessed slot for the micro sd card reader. In this hub, it is pushed in / pulled out of the slot leaving ~ 1/4 inch sticking out from the body of the reader when the micro sd card is loaded. If you leave the card in all the time (to use as an external hard drive) there will be a danger of the card snapping. A minor quibble.
I'm happy that it allows the tablet to maintain 100% charge while running hdmi.
Joe
I have been trying a couple of multiport adapters (USB-C, USB-A, HDMI) but while USB-A and HDMI seem to work fine, the charging port seems to do nothing. The tablet does not indicate it is being charged, and when connected to a PC there is no data connection.
There is a suspicious remark in the documentation:
Operation
• Connect the plug to a USB-CTM port on your computer.
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At the time this manual was written, Android smartphones were not supported.
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So is it possible that this adapter is not supported by our Tab S4? I would be surprised since I read here that other adapters do work.
For completeness, it is a Renkforce USB C naar HDMI + USB 3.0 Multiport-adapter.
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I have been trying a couple of multiport adapters (USB-C, USB-A, HDMI) but while USB-A and HDMI seem to work fine, the charging port seems to do nothing. The tablet does not indicate it is being charged, and when connected to a PC there is no data connection.
There is a suspicious remark in the documentation:
So is it possible that this adapter is not supported by our Tab S4? I would be surprised since I read here that other adapters do work.
For completeness, it is a Renkforce USB C naar HDMI + USB 3.0 Multiport-adapter.
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Your description is confusing to me, and I had to translate the product description of your adaptor from Dutch to English, but...
Plug the USB C male connector from the adaptor into your tablet. Your adaptor has three ports:
1) USB 3.0 female - connect to a USB device such as a mouse, keyboard, thumb drive, etc. I'm not sure if you can connect this port to a PC or not.
2) HDMI female - hook to a display
3) USB C female - power input port only. Does not carry data. Does not connect to a PC. Plug your power supply into this port using the same cable that you charge your tablet with.. The charging icon should activate. Your tablet should stay charged while using the other ports, or at least discharge more slowly.
It sounds like you are trying to plug the charging port into a PC. Doesn't work as far as I know.
Thanks for the reply. This is what I do:
1. Plug the USB-C cable from the adapter into the tablet C port.
2. Plug HDMI cable (connected to a monitor) into the adapter HDMI port. This is detected, Samsung Dex starts, and the monitor displays the Dex desktop.
3. Plug keyboard/mouse into the USB-A port of the adapter. This is picked up by the tablet and I can use the keyboard/mouse.
Alternatively, when I plug a USB stick into the USB-A port of the adapter, the tablet shows a new USB storage device.
So far, so good.
4. I connect the Samsung power supply to the USB-C port of the adapter. Nothing happens. The tablet does not start charging (or discharging less). I tried different power supplies and cables, makes no difference.
When I connect the power supply with the same cable to the tablet it charges normally. When I connect the tablet using this cable to a PC hub the tablet also start charging, albeit slowy.
So as far as I can see I did nothing wrong. What suprises me most is that almost everything works fine, except charging.
I've ordered a new adapter (different brand) to see if this makes a difference.
I think it should work... I have a couple adaptors similar to yours and they all work. Particularly Insignia NS-PU378CHM I referenced above.
I do think that adaptors that say they support power delivery (PD) work better than cheaper generic adaptors. Even though the Tab S4 doesn't support
PD itself. I strongly recommend the Ugreen adaptor above.
Good luck,
Joe
I would have bought the Ugreen immedeately if they were easily available in this part of the world. Buying from Amazon is expensive and delivery is slow.
I got myself another multiport hub, brand A-Konic, and this time all three ports seem to work correctly. USB-C charging. USB-A OTG and HDMI. However, Samsung Dex on the monitor is only 1280x720 (on the S4 it is 2560x1600; the monitor is 1920x1080). Not sure if this is related to the hub.
I'm glad you found something that works. I don't know about screen resolutions. There are other threads that discuss HDMI resolution. I think the HDMI cable can make a big difference.
Take care,
Joe
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I think the HDMI cable can make a big difference.
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Initially I got a distorted image on the screen but replacing the high quality cable by an even higher quality cable fixed that.
I'll check out the resolution info.
Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 working 100w adaptor ?
Hello I have the following question to all owners of samsung galaxy tab s4. I have a desire to buy the following docking stantion for my tablet. I have a question if it will work correctly.
USB C Hub, USB C Docking Station, QGeeM 12 in 1 Triple Display Type C Hub to Dual 4K HDMI & DP,USB C to USB Adapter,100W PD, Gigabit Ethernet, USB C Card Reader,USB Docking Station
Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 does it support thunderbolt ?
Will work seamlessly with a 100w adapter?
It will work but it won't use all its capacity. The tablet only can charge at 18w.
I am having good luck with the AUKEY 5-in-1 USB-C Hub, here is the AMZN link:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089M7WSHM/
It will give screen mirroring to TV. I have used it on both a 720p and a UHD (2160x3840) TV.
It can charge through the hub and use HDMI out and ethernet on the S4. I just wish it wouldn't try to make me setup DEX everytime I plug it in.