First post, long time lurker.
Right off the bat I would like to thank all of you out there in the community who have and are contributing their time and energies, again thank you!
I'm not worried about coming off as a noob (because I am) but I've been experiencing a laundry list of issues since I purchased the phone (T-mobile in the states) and the consensus was that most likely updates would resolve them overtime.
I finally got the latest OTA from t-mobile 2 days ago and my GPS is still messed up! It worked better with the GPS fix I had found on here, has anyone else noticed this? 0 satellite fixes! and also I've been getting this annoying clicking & stuttering sounds during any audio (streaming, playing mp3s). I had read that it was a program running in the background that was most likely culprit. Has anyone tracked this one down as of yet? Last but not least, battery life! After getting the OTA I decided to see if it would make a difference and it seems just the same if not worse! I let it power it self down and then charged it 100% and over the course of no phone calls and 3 txt msgs (No GPS/Wifi, no 3g, just edge) in less than 24 hours it had died. At first I thought the battery life was due to me constantly playing with it but I have since given up using the phone if I know I'm going to be away from my charger for more than 3 hours,this is starting to get to me!
So to boil it down, should I wait for froyo or should I try and get a replacement?
Any solutions or advice will be greatly appreciated, thank you!
justjaydawg said:
First post, long time lurker.
Right off the bat I would like to thank all of you out there in the community who have and are contributing their time and energies, again thank you!
I'm not worried about coming off as a noob (because I am) but I've been experiencing a laundry list of issues since I purchased the phone (T-mobile in the states) and the consensus was that most likely updates would resolve them overtime.
I finally got the latest OTA from t-mobile 2 days ago and my GPS is still messed up! It worked better with the GPS fix I had found on here, has anyone else noticed this? 0 satellite fixes! and also I've been getting this annoying clicking & stuttering sounds during any audio (streaming, playing mp3s). I had read that it was a program running in the background that was most likely culprit. Has anyone tracked this one down as of yet? Last but not least, battery life! After getting the OTA I decided to see if it would make a difference and it seems just the same if not worse! I let it power it self down and then charged it 100% and over the course of no phone calls and 3 txt msgs (No GPS/Wifi, no 3g, just edge) in less than 24 hours it had died. At first I thought the battery life was due to me constantly playing with it but I have since given up using the phone if I know I'm going to be away from my charger for more than 3 hours,this is starting to get to me!
So to boil it down, should I wait for froyo or should I try and get a replacement?
Any solutions or advice will be greatly appreciated, thank you!
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Before we suggest anything, why dont you check your system status to see what is using your phones battery life. might be that is a good start.
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Before we suggest anything, why dont you check your system status to see what is using your phones battery life. might be that is a good start.
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Doh, good suggestion! I will do this today and find out. Thank you!
I too have noticed that the gps is still not working. My location locks and after after minutes of navigating, the gps signal drops and I have to constantly exit and renter navigation every time it says "SEARCHING FOR GPS"
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I too have noticed that the gps is still not working. My location locks and after after minutes of navigating, the gps signal drops and I have to constantly exit and renter navigation every time it says "SEARCHING FOR GPS"
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First thing I did after OTA was try the GPS, it put me in the middle of a auxiliary football field by my house
justjaydawg said:
First thing I did after OTA was try the GPS, it put me in the middle of a auxiliary football field by my house
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Wow I know exactly what you mean but If you find a solution to this gps thing let me know
Somewhat of a solution, do the GPS fix along with the J16 update. IE use the 'supl.google' server and 'msbased'
With these two "fixes", I get a lock inside the house and even not being near a window, it can place me either in my bedroom or the living room
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Somewhat of a solution, do the GPS fix along with the J16 update. IE use the 'supl.google' server and 'msbased'
With these two "fixes", I get a lock inside the house and even not being near a window, it can place me either in my bedroom or the living room
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I tried *#*#1472365#*#* to get into the sat menu but it doesn't work now after I've updated.
Get SGS Tools from the Market - it keeps the codes current.
-bZj
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Get SGS Tools from the Market - it keeps the codes current.
-bZj
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Alright thank you very much, that did the trick. GPS issue is now once again resolved. But the main one for me right now is these clicking/stuttering sounds when I play/stream music, any ideas on that one?
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So I went out and used my GPS for the first road test. After turing on iGuidance i got a fix very quickly and it saw me...but then it was horrible in updating. I would start driving and sometimes it wouldnt even move for 30 seconds. the accuracy was not there either. With my ext GPS it would tell me I was a few feet from an intersection, now im lucky if im near it. I was getting 6-10/10 sats also, so very good. maybe the software? So what are everyone else's driving experiences and with what software? I dont have data so i cant use gmaps/live.
i just had google maps up and drove to the store this morning and it followed me very well....
then it followed me around the golf course almost exactly on the edge of the greens maybe 1-2 feet off at worst
My GPS sucks too. I have used googlemaps and geoscout(which I think actually works better than googlemaps) I am off by about 25 feet in a random direction with googlemaps using satellite maps. I too have 6-10 satellites.
Anyone have a cab for TrackyPro v3.0? I hear that that is really good especially for off roading.
google maps seems very accurate to me. also last night i was out of town and used the sprint navigator to find parking very easily. we were moving slowly, but i would estimate it had us within 10 foot.
It's been working great for me. I tried it out last night while on a quick drive and it tracked me the whole way which about 5 satellites much of the way. It was only a few feet off the entire time.
my google maps is accurate to within about 5-10 feet, i was in line at the mcdonalds drive through last night and for kicks i brough tup the satellite picture and watched my dot get closer to the window, lol
My gps is working better now. This is how I fixed it. First I relocked my phone. Then I upgraded to the original leaked version of 2.16.651.0 and let it do it's thing. DO NOT USE A MODIFIED 2.4/2.5 BOOTLOADER!!! For some reason the gps is of by about 20 feet when using the modified/hacked bootloader and is almost exact when using the original. The original is also much faster not only with gps but in genreal.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
My gps is working better now. This is how I fixed it. First I relocked my phone. Then I upgraded to the original leaked version of 2.16.651.0 and let it do it's thing. DO NOT USE A MODIFIED 2.4/2.5 BOOTLOADER!!! For some reason the gps is of by about 20 feet when using the modified/hacked bootloader and is almost exact when using the original. The original is also much faster not only with gps but in genreal.
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no offense, but this is completely false. the bootloader has no effect whatsoever on gps performance.
That may be true but for some reason that is what I have noticed. I have not changed any other settings either. Oh and dcd since you are here are you planning on releasing a kitchen for the new gps rom?
Used TomTom on the way home from a Sprint store and the thing followed me the whole way. Told me to turn the split second I got in front of the driveway. I am liking the added feature very much. Only complaint is why do I have to turn on google maps to get the GPS to work?
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Only complaint is why do I have to turn on google maps to get the GPS to work?
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the GPS has to be initialized before it can be used, and some apps (like tomtom) dont do that
theres a thread on ppcgeeks about it, the OP recommends using maction (?) GPSViewer to initialize since i guess its faster than googlemaps
Google maps and Live Search work very well for me. Pretty much spot on.
I drove around today and tested it out. Followed me perfectly on the roads. No hicup of path....just chugged along right where I was....both in Google Maps and Live Search....Altho L.S. is cool because it shows the arrow...
My connections somtimes won't connect....like I've noticed it seemed slightly buggy...maybe just me....but if it does something weird...a soft reset DEF fixes it.
DCD.....YOU ROCK MY FACE! THANX!
PS...
This was my first ROM flash ever....I thought I was unpacking the BootLoader to my PC before I wanted to actually start...I hadn't read anything, and it installed on my phone and before I knew it I was staring at the multicolor bootloader screen.....F*%K! Long story short...I figured it all out with these forums and so THANKS!
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Used TomTom on the way home from a Sprint store and the thing followed me the whole way. Told me to turn the split second I got in front of the driveway. I am liking the added feature very much. Only complaint is why do I have to turn on google maps to get the GPS to work?
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I have had good luck with tom tom navigator as well. I too have the problem with having to have another program initialize the gps,but I understand there are people working on it.
Mine worked well all weekend. Using Google Maps it followed me all around town. Same as a previous posted for grins i pulled it up in a drive through and it tracked me slowly moving up in line. One or two hiccups but nothing earth shattering.
GPS works great
mine with googlemaps will update itself every second it looks like. tried it while driving around San Diego, it was spot on the whole time. if you turn on Field Trial when you're running a GPS app, then look at the GPS stats it will even show you your horizontal speed in meters/second. tried that while driving around too...seemed to be right on the money. have anywhere from 4 to 8 satellites most the time. at work right now in La Jolla, I've got 4 inside the building.
I'm having a similar issue with iGuidance and sent an email to my contact at iNav to see if there is a known issue.
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the GPS has to be initialized before it can be used, and some apps (like tomtom) dont do that
theres a thread on ppcgeeks about it, the OP recommends using maction (?) GPSViewer to initialize since i guess its faster than googlemaps
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Thanks. I found the app when I was looking around today and installed it. It does work well. Click it, it opens up the GPS then opens TomTom(or whatever program you want it to open).
Here is a thread on xda that links to ppcgeeks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363111
GPS
Mine works like a hot damn.
Mobo
I took my boat out today and used it... thing was SPOT ON using gmaps! I stopped at a few islands and walked around and it tracked me all the way and it was exactly where the satellite pic said I was.
Sometimes I noticed in my car that if its not close to a window it will only get like 2 sats and the position wont be all that great. I have GPS built in my car, so its not a big deal.
Hello all, I am not sure if any one has mantioned this or not. I looked thru the whole Atrix forum and could not find anything. I just got the Atrix about a week ago. I noticed that after using the data for couple of hours (Streaming music) it disconnects and I dont have access to data till I power off for a while and power on again. it is the same story every time I use data for 1 or 2 hours. replaced the phone once already including the SIM card and still the same thing. Any one having the same problem? Please reply. Thanks.
Am I in the right forum? If not, please forgive me, let me know and point me to the right direction? Thanks.
So you lose data completely? No h, e, 3g? Just bars? I had a similar issue on my captivate if I drove around listening to Pandora sometimes it would randomly stop playing till I went to the next song.
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Well, I see the H+, but the little arrows (TX/RX) right underneath it disappear and I have no data connection and all this is happening while I'm in the same spot (In my room or at work at my desk). Also a window pops out saying Network Error. Also, I never see E or 3g. It is always H+ even when there is only 1 bar. Is that normal? Here is a picture of it. It just did it to me. Now i have no data connection unless I power down for a while. Here is another Pic. If you notice, there are no Arrows under H+.
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Well, I see the H+, but the little arrows (TX/RX) right underneath it disappear and I have no data connection and all this is happening while I'm in the same spot (In my room or at work at my desk). Also a window pops out saying Network Error. Also, I never see E or 3g. It is always H+ even when there is only 1 bar. Is that normal? Here is a picture of it. It just did it to me. Now i have no data connection unless I power down for a while. Here is another Pic. If you notice, there are no Arrows under H+.
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yeah this happened to me yesterday and i had to reboot......its the only time its happened though, and actually it was right after i updated about 7 apps at once from market. probably not related but there it is. only time its happened to me so far.
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yeah this happened to me yesterday and i had to reboot......its the only time its happened though, and actually it was right after i updated about 7 apps at once from market. probably not related but there it is. only time its happened to me so far.
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It Happens to me when ever I try to use the data for couple of hours.
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It Happens to me when ever I try to use the data for couple of hours.
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for me it happened when i was on wifi for a couple hours and turned it off, trying to go back to 3g.......and like you the arrows wouldnt show up untiil reboot
It happens to me on data only without wifi on or off. I was just wondering if this was happening to anyone else. I guess no one used the data long enough to see this problem. It looks like this is a Motorola problem and I will have to return the device. Don't want to but don't want to keep a defective device.
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Check your Battery Manager -> Battery mode setting. I think by default it's set to Nighttime sleep, which (in theory) shouldn't affect any music streaming or sync apps until night time, but it's possible that the profile is wonky. Try using the performance option or the custom (even though custom warns you of this very same issue).
This issue finally happened to me today.
I think it had to do with Extended Controls widget not correctly enabling/disabling the data apn.
In settings everything was right but I could not get the network even though it was showing the H+.
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Check your Battery Manager -> Battery mode setting. I think by default it's set to Nighttime sleep, which (in theory) shouldn't affect any music streaming or sync apps until night time, but it's possible that the profile is wonky. Try using the performance option or the custom (even though custom warns you of this very same issue).
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Hello.
Thanks for replying. I tried the battery manager, I changed to performance and that didn't help. Within 5 minutes I was disconnected.
snlu178 said:
This issue finally happened to me today.
I think it had to do with Extended Controls widget not correctly enabling/disabling the data apn.
In settings everything was right but I could not get the network even though it was showing the H+.
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Hi. If you keep using the data nonstop, you will see that it will happen to you more often. I read some where in a forum that Motorola is having some kind of a power management problem on these devices (Atrix4G & Bionic) where it over heats and effects the RF radio and Motorola is denying it. I am not sure how much of it is true. I can not find that article.
Here. I fond it. Every one, read this.
http://androidcommunity.com/motorol...-suffering-unfixable-power-problems-20110126/
Hey all, Guess what I just found out. After talking to few AT&T tech support about the problem I am having with the device, they transferred me to Motorola tech support. Guess what they told me. The Motorola Atrix 4G is not a 3G device. It is only strictly 4G device. WOW. That sucks. I thought this was E, H & H+ device. That is not what I was told in the AT&T corp. store when I went to purchase it. I was told that it is a 3g/4G device and if there is no 4G network it will drop down to 3G. But I don't think that is the problem. The device is defective. Just now I power off and power back on and it is working fine so far and I don't think we have 4G network in my area.
Update: 03/11/2011 02:13PM PST PDT
Hello all. I am just doing an update. I went and replaced the device one more time (3rd device, 4th SIM card) and it is still the same. It keeps disconnecting from Data every 1 hour or so. I finally called Motorola tech support. The first level tech support could not help me, so he transferred me to second level tech support. The second level tech support told me that they are going to try it on their own devices that they have and call me back the next day. So they did. She called me back the next day and told me that they could not duplicate the problem (of course). So she said she is not going to let it go, she is going to sent it to the engineers to see if they can find out what the problem is and she is going to call me back on Monday 03/14/2011. If they still have no solution for this, I’m going to return the device and reverse my upgrade. It is just a shame that Motorola (being the first in communications) has to get beaten by other Competitors.
any update on the issue? im starting to have the same problem with my atrix.
Unfortunately, this seems to be happening to quite a few people. There's a longer thread on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967125
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any update on the issue? im starting to have the same problem with my atrix.
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Nope. Even Motorola Level 2 & 3 Tech support could not resolve the problem. They wanted me to sent the device to them for more trouble shooting. I finally returned the device and reverse my upgrade. I suggest you do the same if haven't past the 30 days.
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Unfortunately, this seems to be happening to quite a few people. There's a longer thread on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967125
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Hi dlazer. Thanks for pointing me to the correct thread. This never came up in my search.
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for me it happened when i was on wifi for a couple hours and turned it off, trying to go back to 3g.......and like you the arrows wouldnt show up untiil reboot
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interesting
i've had experience this problem
i thought i was seeing things ....
mods should combine this thread with the other one
and we need to direct motolora to here
Can everyone please log this on the moto forums? We need to ensure moto are aware and do something. Thank you.... not too many posts on moto forums so might get forgotten about.
This is now being resolved by moto. Check moto forums
Fix is coming.
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I don't even use the GPS much but this my second Samsung mobile with a dodgy GPS, is it a hardware problem or a firmware issue?
How quick are Samsung at replacing/repairing handsets? I don't want to send the phone off and then not see it for a month.
Sorry to bump the thread but somebody must have some experience with returning phones to Samsung, how long does the process take?
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Sorry to bump the thread but somebody must have some experience with returning phones to Samsung, how long does the process take?
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I'm getting mine replaced.
I've just tried out the Galaxy S2 side by side with my existing San francisco (ZTE Blade), outside in clear daylight and I'm getting approximately:
9.8 (feet) with the San Francisco (£80 phone)
40 (feet) with the Galaxy S2 (£400 phone)
What makes it worse is that the Galaxy S2 even has an additional satellite locked on
i dont think you should get it replced just yet, a lot of people are reporting problems with accuracy...just wait it out till a fix comes along
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i dont think you should get it replced just yet, a lot of people are reporting problems with accuracy...just wait it out till a fix comes along
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Do your saying it's a software glitch?
i would presume so, the fact that your getting gps lock and can see multiple sattellites means its working...my accuracy is never that great but works for navigation so its fine
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i would presume so, the fact that your getting gps lock and can see multiple sattellites means its working...my accuracy is never that great but works for navigation so its fine
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O2 are doing a clean swap on Friday, so I'll hold out till then.
I was also experiencing some issues with the compass, but when I tried just now it seems to be much more responsive then it was the other day
Hi all
Theres alot of talk about GPS problems with this device.
Im a Navigational Officer with a marine survey company and GPS troubleshooting is in my day to day line of work.
The biggest problem i have with new units is well theyre built in Asia and then these units get shipped over to the USA and Europe. So when they first get turned on they are expecting a satalitte geometry for Asia.
These means it can take a long long time for devices to get a lock. Once it gets it though future times you use the device should be nice and quick an easy. Now the equimpment im using is completely different to the Tranformer Prime but the stuff i use is worth millions of millions of dollars. So its safe to say if it can take up to several hours for a first time lock to occure with a million dollar piece of gps equipment how long will it take for a tablet? Most of the time i have to reprogram the card and tell it its at a certain lat long this reduces first time start up to maybe 40-50 minutes before it gets a good strong signal. So bare that in mind when your saying GPS isnt working with the device have you really tested it?
Now i dont have my Transformer Prime yet ( preordered through amazon uk) and when i do there will be a extensive test done on wifi and GPS and some tweaking to improve them best i can. But here are some suggestions you might consider.
1. WIFI - yes turn your wifi . Yes i know this sounds stupid but it helps the tablet find itself that first time it tells it ohh im in this country and i need to look for this. Do this several times then turn your Wifi off and try GPS on its own.
2. Leave it alone - I know its hard to do but just turn your GPS on and then just leave it dont move it touch it play with it. Just let it find itself and the satalittes. After finding itself a few times it will become quicker.
3. Wait for Update - Im in not doubt that a good firmware update will fix this problem in the future even with masking from the aluminium shell of the transformer its still going to be able to get a GPS lock even if its just a handfull of sats and technially you only need 4. With a new firmware it will allow the device to find itself a little better. I do it in work all the time reprogram for different regions.
I hope this helps anyone. But the end of the day GPS isnt instant guys. Tom Tom and Garmin have made it look easy the end of the day but thats with the programing of the units in advanced that allows for fast geometry fixes. Just be patient.
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Hi all
Theres alot of talk about GPS problems with this device.
Im a Navigational Officer with a marine survey company and GPS troubleshooting is in my day to day line of work.
The biggest problem i have with new units is well theyre built in Asia and then these units get shipped over to the USA and Europe. So when they first get turned on they are expecting a satalitte geometry for Asia.
These means it can take a long long time for devices to get a lock. Once it gets it though future times you use the device should be nice and quick an easy. Now the equimpment im using is completely different to the Tranformer Prime but the stuff i use is worth millions of millions of dollars. So its safe to say if it can take up to several hours for a first time lock to occure with a million dollar piece of gps equipment how long will it take for a tablet? Most of the time i have to reprogram the card and tell it its at a certain lat long this reduces first time start up to maybe 40-50 minutes before it gets a good strong signal. So bare that in mind when your saying GPS isnt working with the device have you really tested it?
Now i dont have my Transformer Prime yet ( preordered through amazon uk) and when i do there will be a extensive test done on wifi and GPS and some tweaking to improve them best i can. But here are some suggestions you might consider.
1. WIFI - yes turn your wifi . Yes i know this sounds stupid but it helps the tablet find itself that first time it tells it ohh im in this country and i need to look for this. Do this several times then turn your Wifi off and try GPS on its own.
2. Leave it alone - I know its hard to do but just turn your GPS on and then just leave it dont move it touch it play with it. Just let it find itself and the satalittes. After finding itself a few times it will become quicker.
3. Wait for Update - Im in not doubt that a good firmware update will fix this problem in the future even with masking from the aluminium shell of the transformer its still going to be able to get a GPS lock even if its just a handfull of sats and technially you only need 4. With a new firmware it will allow the device to find itself a little better. I do it in work all the time reprogram for different regions.
I hope this helps anyone. But the end of the day GPS isnt instant guys. Tom Tom and Garmin have made it look easy the end of the day but thats with the programing of the units in advanced that allows for fast geometry fixes. Just be patient.
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great post. I know I haven't really really tested mines because I got impatient after a couple mins..lol plus never really took prime outside yet. thanks for the info. patience is a virtue.
tomorrow im going to cold boot from airplane mode, let it sit outside for like 30 minutes in navigation and see what happens
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Hi all
Theres alot of talk about GPS problems with this device.
Im a Navigational Officer with a marine survey company and GPS troubleshooting is in my day to day line of work.
The biggest problem i have with new units is well theyre built in Asia and then these units get shipped over to the USA and Europe. So when they first get turned on they are expecting a satalitte geometry for Asia.
These means it can take a long long time for devices to get a lock. Once it gets it though future times you use the device should be nice and quick an easy. Now the equimpment im using is completely different to the Tranformer Prime but the stuff i use is worth millions of millions of dollars. So its safe to say if it can take up to several hours for a first time lock to occure with a million dollar piece of gps equipment how long will it take for a tablet? Most of the time i have to reprogram the card and tell it its at a certain lat long this reduces first time start up to maybe 40-50 minutes before it gets a good strong signal. So bare that in mind when your saying GPS isnt working with the device have you really tested it?
Now i dont have my Transformer Prime yet ( preordered through amazon uk) and when i do there will be a extensive test done on wifi and GPS and some tweaking to improve them best i can. But here are some suggestions you might consider.
1. WIFI - yes turn your wifi . Yes i know this sounds stupid but it helps the tablet find itself that first time it tells it ohh im in this country and i need to look for this. Do this several times then turn your Wifi off and try GPS on its own.
2. Leave it alone - I know its hard to do but just turn your GPS on and then just leave it dont move it touch it play with it. Just let it find itself and the satalittes. After finding itself a few times it will become quicker.
3. Wait for Update - Im in not doubt that a good firmware update will fix this problem in the future even with masking from the aluminium shell of the transformer its still going to be able to get a GPS lock even if its just a handfull of sats and technially you only need 4. With a new firmware it will allow the device to find itself a little better. I do it in work all the time reprogram for different regions.
I hope this helps anyone. But the end of the day GPS isnt instant guys. Tom Tom and Garmin have made it look easy the end of the day but thats with the programing of the units in advanced that allows for fast geometry fixes. Just be patient.
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Nice summary. I think the amount everyone here has learned about the workings of GPS is college equivelent. But other tablets don't require any priming or special conditions to work. They just do. And that includes Asus' own TF1 and Slider.
Quite true other devices dont have the same problem you are right. But you have to remmber Asus have rushed this tablet out on the Market so to beat the competition. The firmware might not be as up to date as they may like and some nessicary tweaks may need to be in order. Im sure Asus main concern are other areas of the tablet like getting it to power up and run. GPS fixes are more secondary.
I could be wrong and there could be a defect with the tablets ( i hope there arnt any problems) but im hopeing with new updates sat tracking and lock will become much quicker.
While waiting for Prime, I upgraded my OG Droid to Samsung Galaxy Nexus. No GPS issues. And compared the TF Prime to my wife's Samsung 10.1 Tab. No GPS issues.
Couple that with Asus Rep from TF1, and I expected better. Disappointed in GPS perf.
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Quite true other devices dont have the same problem you are right. But you have to remmber Asus have rushed this tablet out on the Market so to beat the competition. The firmware might not be as up to date as they may like and some nessicary tweaks may need to be in order. Im sure Asus main concern are other areas of the tablet like getting it to power up and run. GPS fixes are more secondary.
I could be wrong and there could be a defect with the tablets ( i hope there arnt any problems) but im hopeing with new updates sat tracking and lock will become much quicker.
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People have tested it with an external Bluetooth receiver and it works well. If it was a general s/w issue I'd imagine it wouldn't. And remember, it's the OS that talks to the GPS chip not s/w that Asus had/has to develop on thier own. The chip itself is made by Broadcom and is similar to what's in the G-Tab and TF1 so there's nothing unique about the Prime compared to other HC devices (GPS wise).
as we speak my tablet was put into airplane mode i did a reboot now it is sitting in my window and running gps test looking for satellite not going to touch until 930 and see if we find anything
Fare enough put in my place hahaha. Well they are only suggestions with what ive observed with other GPS equipment. Truth be told im not familiar with Mobile and Tablet GPS, more of the high end gps surveys stuff. Thanks for the input
Good luck, It may or may not work but just thought id over some ideas for what ive observed in work
fishbowl_00 said:
Fare enough put in my place hahaha. Well they are only suggestions with what ive observed with other GPS equipment. Truth be told im not familiar with Mobile and Tablet GPS, more of the high end gps surveys stuff. Thanks for the input
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What you added was great - I didn't mean to seem negative. You're kind of coming in to the play in the fourth act. If you like GPS related stuff there's some really good info starting around page 33 on the big-ass GPS thread with the poll attached.
fishbowl_00 said:
Good luck, It may or may not work but just thought id over some ideas for what ive observed in work
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well we will see and i will post results for sure
fishbowl_00,
Great thinking, but once you get your prime you may have a different line of thought. I've been testing mine for days, using every conceivable configuration imaginable. I've been using GPS since it was released during the LORAN days and have never seen anything this weak!
Mine can usually get a fix outside with a good view of the sky. I even got it to lock on indoors a few times. The problem is it can't hold the lock. Sitting in the same position it will suddenly lose all eight or twelve satellites for no apparent reason and then slowly start searching and maybe finding them again after several minutes. The signals are always marginal. Driving around I can usually get a lock some of the time, if I hold the prime up to the window. Then for no reason it will show me driving out through the forest and then get lost! This is not a one time thing. It happens over and over again.
After several emails to Asus tech, I've been told everything to "it must have a Wi-Fi connection for GPS to work" to "meantime please try to use Google Maps app from the main menu by tapping APPS -> then MAPS icon, please check if your 'current location' is displaying correctly. If not I would suggest to have it exchanged with your place of purchase or you may proceed with a RMA service to have the issue corrected."
Now this morning, Asus has said "Please note that this product is not a professional GPS device and signal performance can be easily influenced by factors including, but not limited to: weather, buildings and your surrounding environment." Never mind that the other tablets and cheap receivers on the market aren't professional GPS devices either, but seem to operate without these problems.
The last straw was when then removed GPS from their specs online this morning on their website. Seems they think that if they pretend it isn't there no one can complain! After all *specifications are subject to change without notice.
Sorry if I sound a little bitter, but I've had it with Asus.
My test airplane mode on, reboot, open gps test, let sit for 30 minutes
Update 1: 10 minutes in we have a really cold prime from sitting in a window on a 20 degree night but we have zero satellites
Update 2: 20 minutes in the prime is now even colder and still zero satellites only 10 minutes left and we will see what happens
Update 3: tablet dropped to 61.7 degrees wow its freeezing but still no lock on gps my test is complete GPS = FAIL
thomslik said:
fishbowl_00,
Great thinking, but once you get your prime you may have a different line of thought. I've been testing mine for days, using every conceivable configuration imaginable. I've been using GPS since it was released during the LORAN days and have never seen anything this weak!
Mine can usually get a fix outside with a good view of the sky. I even got it to lock on indoors a few times. The problem is it can't hold the lock. Sitting in the same position it will suddenly lose all eight or twelve satellites for no apparent reason and then slowly start searching and maybe finding them again after several minutes. The signals are always marginal. Driving around I can usually get a lock some of the time, if I hold the prime up to the window. Then for no reason it will show me driving out through the forest and then get lost! This is not a one time thing. It happens over and over again.
After several emails to Asus tech, I've been told everything to "it must have a Wi-Fi connection for GPS to work" to "meantime please try to use Google Maps app from the main menu by tapping APPS -> then MAPS icon, please check if your 'current location' is displaying correctly. If not I would suggest to have it exchanged with your place of purchase or you may proceed with a RMA service to have the issue corrected."
Now this morning, Asus has said "Please note that this product is not a professional GPS device and signal performance can be easily influenced by factors including, but not limited to: weather, buildings and your surrounding environment." Never mind that the other tablets and cheap receivers on the market aren't professional GPS devices either, but seem to operate without these problems.
The last straw was when then removed GPS from their specs online this morning on their website. Seems they think that if they pretend it isn't there no one can complain! After all *specifications are subject to change without notice.
Sorry if I sound a little bitter, but I've had it with Asus.
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People do not turn on your Wifi to test your GPS its a decoy. When you do this of course it will work because Google maps uses Wifi location as well this would just patch it.
If you really want to test the OP theory of the Asia region that is easy, we need some one with ROOT to download a GPS neuter app from the market. When running you can uninstall the current config and download the GPS data.
I would have done this myself but I do not have root with the firmware I received.
Can someone confirm with ROOT?
tylermaciaszek said:
My test airplane mode on, reboot, open gps test, let sit for 30 minutes
Update 1: 10 minutes in we have a really cold prime from sitting in a window on a 20 degree night but we have zero satellites
Update 2: 20 minutes in the prime is now even colder and still zero satellites only 10 minutes left and we will see what happens
Update 3: tablet dropped to 61.7 degrees wow its freeezing but still no lock on gps my test is complete GPS = FAIL
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Is there somewhere outside it can get a clear view of the southerly sky? It should lock then because other's have gotten it to.
tylermaciaszek said:
My test airplane mode on, reboot, open gps test, let sit for 30 minutes
Update 1: 10 minutes in we have a really cold prime from sitting in a window on a 20 degree night but we have zero satellites
Update 2: 20 minutes in the prime is now even colder and still zero satellites only 10 minutes left and we will see what happens
Update 3: tablet dropped to 61.7 degrees wow its freeezing but still no lock on gps my test is complete GPS = FAIL
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i recommend that u use gps status with wifi turned on to find satellites for the first time. it worked for me. will take 10+ mins. once u get a lock, next time is easier. also try this outdoors in open area and not from window sil
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Maybe they installed the Eastern hemisphere GPS chip instead of the Western one.
smrsxn said:
i recommend that u use gps status with wifi turned on to find satellites for the first time. it worked for me. will take 10+ mins. once u get a lock, next time is easier. also try this outdoors in open area and not from window sil
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And as soon as your Prime changes location and/or can't access Wi-Fi it will lose lock and not be able to reacquire satellites. For people that only need GPS when they have access to Wi-Fi this really isn't that big an issue. Mapping and navigation while moving (without a wireless signal) is pretty much impossible.
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Is there somewhere outside it can get a clear view of the southerly sky? It should lock then because other's have gotten it to.
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will try tomorrow morning in the middle of my lawn for 30 minutes
Alright, i am not a stranger in this subforum anyway so i will kick this in right away.
My Eternity served me very well in GPS Navigation Before (last month, it helped me take the journey to a brand new City to take a TOEFL test and returned home safely)
But now, i just realized it yesterday, when it failed to track down where i was on the road.
I mean, the 3G Signal is fine, i can surf web, i can search location on Bing Maps, but it fails to track down where i am. Sometime it will display something like "Sorry , Bing Maps can't ..." or it will show me somewhere not even close to my house ( i suppose it is where the tower of AT&T located.)
Somehow the GPS really fail on 3g, if i hook it up with a USB cable, or WIfi, it will show me kinda exactly where i am ( with a big circle covered up amount of area show the sign that the phone is not really sure where i am really located in that area)
I am on the latest update from HTC and Microsoft, anybody facing the same problem? I would like someword from someone use AT&T over here.
Thanks.
Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHCT6BCMNB8
Strike_Eagle said:
Alright, i am not a stranger in this subforum anyway so i will kick this in right away.
My Eternity served me very well in GPS Navigation Before (last month, it helped me take the journey to a brand new City to take a TOEFL test and returned home safely)
But now, i just realized it yesterday, when it failed to track down where i was on the road.
I mean, the 3G Signal is fine, i can surf web, i can search location on Bing Maps, but it fails to track down where i am. Sometime it will display something like "Sorry , Bing Maps can't ..." or it will show me somewhere not even close to my house ( i suppose it is where the tower of AT&T located.)
Somehow the GPS really fail on 3g, if i hook it up with a USB cable, or WIfi, it will show me kinda exactly where i am ( with a big circle covered up amount of area show the sign that the phone is not really sure where i am really located in that area)
I am on the latest update from HTC and Microsoft, anybody facing the same problem? I would like someword from someone use AT&T over here.
Thanks.
Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHCT6BCMNB8
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Wow dude. You are totally having too many issues. Gotta get a new device.
I have had literally zero issues with my Titan. And heck, the GPS lock on all my Windows Phones have been just fast and spot on, especially the Titan. This is whether I'm on 3G or 4G.
Bad luck?
Could be a temporary issue. I know every so often, GPS satellites will go crazy and just not work properly for a day or two and then be just fine.
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Wow dude. You are totally having too many issues. Gotta get a new device.
I have had literally zero issues with my Titan. And heck, the GPS lock on all my Windows Phones have been just fast and spot on, especially the Titan. This is whether I'm on 3G or 4G.
Bad luck?
Could be a temporary issue. I know every so often, GPS satellites will go crazy and just not work properly for a day or two and then be just fine.
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HTC replied me with a message about letting the "Location" services on (which i always let it on) , so it is no help.
Anyway, i recognized yesterday that whenever i go outside , i will stuck on 3 bars for Signal (which i always had full bars when i went outside before)
Might it be the low-signal problem again?
I don't know if i might end up having the AT&T version which is slow on getting the update
And hey bro... how could you get the Lumia 800 that fast??? LOL
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HTC replied me with a message about letting the "Location" services on (which i always let it on) , so it is no help.
Anyway, i recognized yesterday that whenever i go outside , i will stuck on 3 bars for Signal (which i always had full bars when i went outside before)
Might it be the low-signal problem again?
I don't know if i might end up having the AT&T version which is slow on getting the update
And hey bro... how could you get the Lumia 800 that fast??? LOL
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Well the GPS radio does not require you to have a signal with your wireless carrier. GPS is separate from data/voice, but of course it does need the data connection to download maps and directions.
I don't know if the update will fix your issue as the release notes don't say they fix any GPS issues. I haven't heard many people having GPS issues to begin with, so I don't think its a massive issue. Maybe its interference from something around your house? What happens if you go elsewhere?
I got the Lumia because Microsoft/Nokia gave one to me.
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Well the GPS radio does not require you to have a signal with your wireless carrier. GPS is separate from data/voice, but of course it does need the data connection to download maps and directions.
I don't know if the update will fix your issue as the release notes don't say they fix any GPS issues. I haven't heard many people having GPS issues to begin with, so I don't think its a massive issue. Maybe its interference from something around your house? What happens if you go elsewhere?
I got the Lumia because Microsoft/Nokia gave one to me.
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Man, i walk out of the house, i get stuck in 3 bars when i normally have 5.
Then i drive around St.Pete , i get stuck in 3 bars no matter where i go./
That's sweet dude... i am currently still thinking about buying Nokia again since i have had bad experience with Nokia before.
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Man, i walk out of the house, i got stuck in 3 bars when i normally have 5.
Then i drive around St.Pete , i got stuck in 3 bars no matter where i go./
That's sweet dude... i am currently still thinking about buying Nokia again since i have had bad experience with Nokia before.
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Weird. Maybe its the back plate? I read that the backplate has some contacts in it that help to increase overall phone reception, and that may include GPS reception. If you backplate isn't on the phone properly, then that may be causing interference, in which case, you may need to get a replacement backplate.
prjkthack said:
Weird. Maybe its the back plate? I read that the backplate has some contacts in it that help to increase overall phone reception, and that may include GPS reception. If you backplate isn't on the phone properly, then that may be causing interference, in which case, you may need to get a replacement backplate.
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Ya, might be... but weird, i had had a really good experience with the phone , now it comes out like sh!t?
I should wait tomorrow and try it once more time, the HTC Supporter is gonna call me also. We'll see how it turns out.
Maybe you are right, sometime GPS got luggish for a little bit and be back normal after a few days.
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Give me some Screenshots of your Lumia
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Give me some Screenshots of your Lumia
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Probably not the most appropriate place for it but here ya go man...
Okay, screw this.
turn off 3G + Wifi = Normal GPS? dafuq
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Ya, might be... but weird, i had had a really good experience with the phone , now it comes out like sh!t?
I should wait tomorrow and try it once more time, the HTC Supporter is gonna call me also. We'll see how it turns out.
Maybe you are right, sometime GPS got luggish for a little bit and be back normal after a few days.
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Give me some Screenshots of your Lumia
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Maybe try to reboot your phone once a day or two, & all will be fine.
I had the same issue once with GPS, & after reboot, all went fine.
God luck
No bro... this thing is so hard to predict.
With 3G , i can get the position after quite awhile... with a big circle around... they normally point at somewhere else... really hard to get correct position.
With Wifi, it catch my position right away, but always with a big circle around... if i disconnect wifi and disconnect 3G too, it will be able to track me down for quite awhile...
Turn off everything before i track my position, i got nothing from the phone.
Hand down, this is kinda clear that i have Hardware failure... but strange... one month ago, it was still fine!
me too!
I am now having the same GPS problem on my euro titan as well grr! Even after flashing several roms it still does not work, and what is even worse is that it sometimes does work!