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After last weeks DX farce with 2Ghz and 3Ghz Im cautious however these guys seem to have the benchies to back it up. We've long heard the potential for the hummingbird was 1.6. Only sad part is they say no Fascinate development till they get one. Removing the 56fps cap is nice too
I've never heard of these guys before? Legit? Renowned? Anyone know.
I would say all is BS until proven other wise. In my opinion the hardware would burn up at those speeds.
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I would say all is BS until proven other wise. In my opinion the hardware would burn up at those speeds.
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While not safe, I seriously doubt it would burn up.
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While not safe, I seriously doubt it would burn up.
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Agreed. 1.6 has long been discussed as an achieveable speed. Dirrk was tinkering with it weeks ago. Its voltage requirement obviously is high and near the threshold point given the non-active cooling for the cpu. But I would not be surprised this could be achieved. I mean shoot we have 1.25Ghz on less than stock voltage already.
Benchmarks in one hand, stability in the other. When I see a posted kernel with good reviews for a week or so, I'll do more than raise an eyebrow. lol.
It's on the OCLF kernel, which if I remember, is well known for posting high quadrant scores without giving any real performance benefit.
Also, benchmark overclock's in the desktop world are always just for demonstration, not an application. Ever seen that 7GHz overclock benchmark they did on a Pentium 4?
This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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This doesn't suprise me. I could push my Droid to 1.32ghz. That's well over a 100% overclock. Achieving a 60% overclock shouldn't be too hard, especially on newer and much better hardware.
I find it tough to believe that most phones will be stable at a 60% overclock. Granted, Im only speaking from my experience with desktop CPUs... What type of software do people run to test stability?
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This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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Thats encouraging
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I find it tough to believe that most phones will be stable at a 60% overclock. Granted, Im only speaking from my experience with desktop CPUs... What type of software do people run to test stability?
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What has been your experience with desktop cpu's. I cannot remember the last desktop cpu I have which at least 50% so I dont find 60% outrageously unreasonable. Active cooling obviously makes a difference.
With the battery life Im seeing on Dirrks UV kernels and even what I got on stock voltages pre-OC I would feel confident I could still get a full day off a 1.4-1.5Ghz hummingbird even if the voltage had to be raised to 1400mv.
I'm having trouble with stability with the 1.2 OC kernals...
So I checked out the thread in the vibrant section. This is def for real! Looks awesome! I had trouble with dirrks lv 1200. But every other kernel has ran fine. I'm sure that eventually we'll have everything we can dream on this phone. Good thing its already so great that I don't mind waiting. I hope I don't have to find an excuse to exchange my phone in search of one that can handle more.
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After last weeks DX farce with 2Ghz and 3Ghz Im cautious however these guys seem to have the benchies to back it up. We've long heard the potential for the hummingbird was 1.6. Only sad part is they say no Fascinate development till they get one. Removing the 56fps cap is nice too
I've never heard of these guys before? Legit? Renowned? Anyone know.
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@teamwhiskey is a god send. they have pulled the download though,due to flaws in their kernal. they are in the process of re-vamping it and re-testing. it seems while the kernal did improve performance it is unknown how much because it was also manipulating the internal clock speed.
def legit.
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@teamwhiskey is a god send. they have pulled the download though,due to flaws in their kernal. they are in the process of re-vamping it and re-testing. it seems while the kernal did improve performance it is unknown how much because it was also manipulating the internal clock speed.
def legit.
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That sounds like what Dirrk ran into at 1.6 as well
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That sounds like what Dirrk ran into at 1.6 as well
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Yea its going to be a pain to get that kink worked out. But from what ive heard theyre making headway. Now if only I could get a.perm root for the g2 lol.
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Yes this is for real. I personally run it. Heres quadrant I ran last night. This kernel should be ported to all SGS phones. As long as they get a good dev with this phone to help port.
CPU didnt see near the gain I had hoped it would.
ya the CPU is getting destroyed by the N1. And what is with the ridiculous I/O. Did someone port a PCI express array of SSD's on the Vibrant? Maybe they just developed the GOD file system.
I make jokes, but I want the screen of my Fascinate to say 3439 also haha
I am on a mesmerize niw coming from a vibrant. I used this kernel. There was a timing issue. The io scores come from oclf which cheats quadrant. Those guys have released a pretty stable 1.4 oc that is real. I got 68 fps in neocore. Truth be told guys there is no need for oc in my opinion. With froyo the phone plays flash easily. Only application of oc to me is emulation and bragging rights. A good voodoo kernel works wonders honestly.
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I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
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This is agreed up to a point. Sooner or later they will be creating apps and OS' that will truly utilize the full dual cores potential within the phone. I personally believe that up until that point the OP is 100% right on. But once this does happen, these apps will become more and more processor heavy. And once that happens, I believe we'll be back in the same boat as before and 1.2 vs. 1.7 will actually make a bit of a difference to the typical end user (and not just by benchmark enthusiasts).
The only reason I believe this to be true is look at how PCs and laptops evolved. We got dual core processors and apps weren't quite using the full potential, then as time went on and programmers started utilizing the full processing capabilities of dual/quad cores (& as these processors became more and more common) the differences began to matter again. That's just my 2 cents & I could be completely wrong, but just wanted to share my thoughts. Good topic though
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I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
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lol i did this once gotta love having multiple tabs and think you clicked on the right one ya? least thats what happend to me when i did it
I agree with you. Even in the games i play there is almost no difference, except that the battery gets drained faster because of the higher voltage.
P.s. wrong section, rable, rable, rable
I kinda agree with you in the matter of it not making a HUGE difference. But when I'm overclocked to 1.7, I do notice that it seems to scroll smoother. But that's the only difference I can see.
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I'm comin from a heroc running 768 so 1.2g MORE than enough for me. Besides any faster an yer batterys gonna last w couple hours.
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I'm comin from a heroc running 768 so 1.2g MORE than enough for me. Besides any faster an yer batterys gonna last w couple hours.
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This would be my philosophy. A 1.2 GHz Dual Core is absolutely insane compared to what us Hero users used to have to deal with. My phone couldn't even handle 768, it was stable at 691.
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This would be my philosophy. A 1.2 GHz Dual Core is absolutely insane compared to what us Hero users used to have to deal with. My phone couldn't even handle 768, it was stable at 691.
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Yeah... My poor heros still mad at me.
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I have my 3D oc'ed to 1.5 and ever so slightly undervolt to 1175000 (too many zeroes?)
Totally stable for me. Battery doesn't seem effected much.
Of course I haven't done heavy gaming yet. So. I dunno. I'm still in the honeymoon phase of just being Able to overclock, ya know. Lol.
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I have my 3D oc'ed to 1.5 and ever so slightly undervolt to 1175000 (too many zeroes?)
Totally stable for me. Battery doesn't seem effected much.
Of course I haven't done heavy gaming yet. So. I dunno. I'm still in the honeymoon phase of just being Able to overclock, ya know. Lol.
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I dont know what the stock voltage is, but wouldnt this essentially balance out the extra battery draw from running a slightly higher clock?
Faster, Stronger .. make it so.
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I've overclocked mine a few days, now I'm at stock 1.2 almost no difference. Running the script for overclock is nice though because it allows the use of apps like setcpu. That way profiles can be set for temperature and battery charge level.
As for overclocking because its awesome fast... No need, sweet the way it is.
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I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
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I agree. It doesn't feel much if any faster and is probably needlessly using excess battey.
On the otherhand, I find there to be a pretty big difference between driving 120, 150, or even 170 mph.
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I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
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I overclock because it makes my friends with lame iPhones jealous.
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I agree with you. Even in the games i play there is almost no difference, except that the battery gets drained faster because of the higher voltage.
P.s. wrong section, rable, rable, rable
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You goto KU?
Nice internet speeds, dorm/campus internet sucked when I was there
Once there's permanent root and htc releases the kernel source, will our phones be able to be over clocked higher then 1.7?
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I overclock because it makes my friends with lame iPhones jealous.
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Okay, so I just ran the CPU Benchmark test and got 1100mhz and 1000mhz with 430ms and 497ms.
What's everyone else getting? Just curious to compare numbers.
I stop benchmarking back when i had the heroc lol. Scores don't really mean anything. ****ty phones out score dual core phones at times, so my advice would be 2 just delete any benchmark apps on your phone asap or scores will drive you crazy...take it from someone thats owned at least 15 android devices since launch its for the best.
FYI overclocking is out and undervolting is in. These days these phones are already fast enough id undervolt to save battery
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I stop benchmarking back when i had the heroc lol. Scores don't really mean anything. ****ty phones out score dual core phones at times, so my advice would be 2 just delete any benchmark apps on your phone asap or scores will drive you crazy...take it from someone thats owned at least 15 android devices since launch its for the best.
FYI overclocking is out and undervolting is in. These days these phones are already fast enough id undervolt to save battery
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That is your opinion, and to me your opinion is bleh. I love benchmarks and they do mean quite a bit regardless of what you might think. Undervolting isn't in for me at all, I want max overclock with max over volt. I care less about battery saving, these phones do not save battery and minusing a little voltage from the CPU will not only make it severely unstable it is sometimes worse than overvolting. I have been overclocking since the 333mhz CPU. And I can tell you that benchmarks do mean a lot, they tell you quite a bit about your setup and what you could improve on. Not just one single benchmark, you would need a few. That is my main reason for flashing. I want a fast phone, not just fast, faster than yours! That is just how I am.
I would not suggest deleting your benchmarks, keep them, and compare, always, then you will know your phone, and I mean really know your phone. That is my opinion, and it ROCKS!
lol
No offense Kenny, just a little drunk, having some fun!
-DJ
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That is your opinion, and to me your opinion is bleh. I love benchmarks and they do mean quite a bit regardless of what you might think. Undervolting isn't in for me at all, I want max overclock with max over volt. I care less about battery saving, these phones do not save battery and minusing a little voltage from the CPU will not only make it severely unstable it is sometimes worse than overvolting. I have been overclocking since the 333mhz CPU. And I can tell you that benchmarks do mean a lot, they tell you quite a bit about your setup and what you could improve on. Not just one single benchmark, you would need a few. That is my main reason for flashing. I want a fast phone, not just fast, faster than yours! That is just how I am.
I would not suggest deleting your benchmarks, keep them, and compare, always, then you will know your phone, and I mean really know your phone. That is my opinion, and it ROCKS!
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No offense Kenny, just a little drunk, having some fun!
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That's cool i respect your opinion dude but you'll learn someday that with Android benchmarks don't mean ****. Why care who's phone scores the highest i could care less abt adding inches to my e-penis. Also, Undervolting has been around for a while and isn't unstable where have you been? You might be one of the few people who still believes overclocking is the ****.....
I know how fast my phone is based on performance and benchmark apps arent an indicator of speed/performance. Most bench apps only run one core to test they don't support dual so?
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I stop benchmarking back when i had the heroc lol. Scores don't really mean anything. ****ty phones out score dual core phones at times, so my advice would be 2 just delete any benchmark apps on your phone asap or scores will drive you crazy...take it from someone thats owned at least 15 android devices since launch its for the best.
FYI overclocking is out and undervolting is in. These days these phones are already fast enough id undervolt to save battery
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+1 about scores, they can easily be manipulated for e-penis reasons, CM on the evo3d is stupid fast, but I read benchmarks are horrible. Evo3d is a faster phone but the proton scores significantly higher is a good example, I frequently get lag on my MoPho.
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+1 about scores, they can easily be manipulated for e-penis reasons, CM on the evo3d is stupid fast, but I read benchmarks are horrible. Evo3d is a faster phone but the proton scores significantly higher is a good example, I frequently get lag on my MoPho.
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Very true, my photon scored higher than my evo 3D across the board but i know the 1.2 dual snapdragon can out perform the tegra 2 anyday. Owning a 3D for a month was awful though lol. So glad i got my photon.
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That's cool i respect your opinion dude but you'll learn someday that with Android benchmarks don't mean ****. Why care who's phone scores the highest i could care less abt adding inches to my e-penis. Also, Undervolting has been around for a while and isn't unstable where have you been? You might be one of the few people who still believes overclocking is the ****.....
I know how fast my phone is based on performance and benchmark apps arent an indicator of speed/performance. Most bench apps only run one core to test they don't support dual so?
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I do think overclocking is the ****. I do it as a passion, but undervolting isn't the best way to go. Yes it can be stable with undervolting, but I think you can go way to far also. And there are apps out there that test both cores, and there will be more out there that test both cores. Dual-core phones are still pretty new. But its really a moot point, I like it, you don't, we can leave it at that. I am going to try to start working on kernels myself and learning about them. Maybe I will come up with something you like that gets the best of both worlds. I would love for there to be a kernel out that you could just switch modes. High performance, and low battery use. etc. I don't just mean governor switching, switching the kernel, I'm sure that would require just reflashing different kernels, but maybe someday it wont.
-DJ
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Very true, my photon scored higher than my evo 3D across the board but i know the 1.2 dual snapdragon can out perform the tegra 2 anyday. Owning a 3D for a month was awful though lol. So glad i got my photon.
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I believe you are completely wrong here, the 3d sucked. The Photon can crush that snapdragon chip. I too had the 3d, but I know the Photon outperforms that thing by a long shot. The 3d was an asynchronous processor, the tegra is not.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/03/24/nvidia-tegra-2-outperforms-qualcomm-dualcore-1015/
I found this to be quite neat:
As an upstart in the mobile industry, NVIDIA is moving at a lightning-fast pace. The company is already working on a quad-core processor called Kal-El and this should be in a retail product as early as August.
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Ppl say snapdragon is faster because of what the chip can do theoretically but in real world it can only playback 1080p videos smoother.
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I have both the evo3d and the photon, I know for a fact that the evo3d is faster, the E3d overall just feels snappier and never had a problem with lag. The proton on the other hand would frequently lag when im running tune in and using another app like the browser or while texting. The EVO or the evo3d never did that. Ill go out and say that I feel the proton is all around better phone as far as build and quality goes, but it does not beat the Evo3d as far as processing power, multitasking and efficiency, and that's in real world use.
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I have both the evo3d and the photon, I know for a fact that the evo3d is faster, the E3d overall just feels snappier and never had a problem with lag. The proton on the other hand would frequently lag when im running tune in and using another app like the browser or while texting. The EVO or the evo3d never did that. Ill go out and say that I feel the proton is all around better phone as far as build and quality goes, but it does not beat the Evo3d as far as processing power, multitasking and efficiency, and that's in real world use.
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^^^^^ +1 on this. Tegra is more about gpu/gfx while dual snap dragon is all about raw processing power. Though this is my first tegra device and i must say its amazing but the dual snap has more power. Im a huge nvidia fan by the way and these processors are just amazing. Cant wait to see tablets shipping with quad core nvidia processors!
Yea I never really played any games, my evo3d had too many touch screen issues lol.
I won't own another HTC phone. I don't care what processor it has. Unless it can either A) Dive for me or B) Build my cars I have no interest what so ever in it. So I'm happy with the chipset we have. :]
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^^^^^ +1 on this. Tegra is more about gpu/gfx while dual snap dragon is all about raw processing power. Though this is my first tegra device and i must say its amazing but the dual snap has more power. Im a huge nvidia fan by the way and these processors are just amazing. Cant wait to see tablets shipping with quad core nvidia processors!
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I don't think you even read my link, it is proven that the tegra has 10-15% more power thn the snap. regardless of what you think you can 'feel' real numbers do tell quite a bit. More than you can tell by 'feeling'.
Not saying that your specific phone isn't faster than your specific other phone, but in real time and real life, the tegra is 10-15% faster than the snap. Sorry.
-DJ
I have the Photon, Evo 3d, and Now the Epic, and still have my OG Evo, here are my personal stats
Photon: amazing and the smoothest for gaming
Evo 3d: pretty much amazing with everything
Epic: fast and smooth and best for battery life
OG Evo: best for customization, ROM flashing, kernal flashing, and for lasting the longest out of every sprint smartphone
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I don't think you even read my link, it is proven that the tegra has 10-15% more power thn the snap. regardless of what you think you can 'feel' real numbers do tell quite a bit. More than you can tell by 'feeling'.
Not saying that your specific phone isn't faster than your specific other phone, but in real time and real life, the tegra is 10-15% faster than the snap. Sorry.
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Lol you're funny bro. I did read your link and it doesn't prove anything. You give me a link from a site dated 3/24/11 when the 3D wasn't even around neither were dual core snap dragons and you expect me to just all of a sudden believe a tegra 2 can out perform a dual snap? Lololol you're getting your information from some site thats barely credible and they start their article with "NVIDIA SAID". No **** nvidia will SAY their product is better bro! Just because that site said 10-15% in march doesnt mean its proven. Cmon dude you can do better than that, thanks for the morning laugh though! Now let me tell you again, dual core snap dragon packs more POWER than the tegra 2 and out performs it no matter what old outdated article you're believing in! SORRY....
Dual core snap dragon runs circles around the tegra 2. Talking out of your ass is never a good idea
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8484/20110912125517.jpg
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Go compare the devices yourself @ http://www.glbenchmark.com/
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I downloaded a couple of games off the nvidia game zone, I am very impressed with the quality of games and how well they run. Im gonna probably sink a lot of money into it lol. As far as nvidia vs snapdragon, its all and always been about personal preference. Both perform well for what they're designed to do.
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Lol you're funny bro. I did read your link and it doesn't prove anything. You give me a link from a site dated 3/24/11 when the 3D wasn't even around neither were dual core snap dragons and you expect me to just all of a sudden believe a tegra 2 can out perform a dual snap? Lololol you're getting your information from some site thats barely credible and they start their article with "NVIDIA SAID". No **** nvidia will SAY their product is better bro! Just because that site said 10-15% in march doesnt mean its proven. Cmon dude you can do better than that, thanks for the morning laugh though! Now let me tell you again, dual core snap dragon packs more POWER than the tegra 2 and out performs it no matter what old outdated article you're believing in! SORRY....
Dual core snap dragon runs circles around the tegra 2. Talking out of your ass is never a good idea
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8484/20110912125517.jpg
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Woah bud, I never meant it like that. But an asynchronous cpu will not out perform our tegra2 chips, sorry but you are wrong. I am not sure as to why the hostility, was just making you aware of yes, what nvidia said, but it is true. That is simple physics. Thats why when the evo 3d got overclocked the performance increase wasn't ****. I had one too, I know all about it. One of the reasons I got the photon. But no matter, believe whatever you want. No sweat off my back. Those benchmarks mean nothing to me by the way, sorry.
Hard to have a simple debate on these forums. Sucks
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Woah bud, I never meant it like that. But an asynchronous cpu will not out perform our tegra2 chips, sorry but you are wrong. I am not sure as to why the hostility, was just making you aware of yes, what nvidia said, but it is true. That is simple physics. Thats why when the evo 3d got overclocked the performance increase wasn't ****. I had one too, I know all about it. One of the reasons I got the photon. But no matter, believe whatever you want. No sweat off my back. Those benchmarks mean nothing to me by the way, sorry.
Hard to have a simple debate on these forums. Sucks
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Those benchmarks mean nothing but some random site that simply said its 10% better does lol? What are you going to base you statement off then? Can make a claim without facts right? I gave you facts that REAL WORLD test prove dual snapdragon is more powerful, faster, and etc. You're just saying "sorry you're wrong" id say you're the one that doesn't know how to debate. I mean you're asking for a debate but you got nothing but your word and some sketchy old website....lol
ive tried every rom/kernal combination and with each i get lock ups when doing intensive cpu work such as a game or benchmark overclocked to 1.6 any ideas? Thanks
Just means your processor was built a little weak. Its only built to run at 1.2ghz so anything above that is pushing it hard... some phones can be oc'd that much, some can't. Just take it down to 1.4. I can't even get mine to 1.4 so he thankful
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What voltage do you have it at? Try raising it 25mV at a time stressing you cpu at each step until you're stable. That is if you are determined to run 1.6 and i would not push more than +100mV personally.
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ive tried every rom/kernal combination and with each i get lock ups when doing intensive cpu work such as a game or benchmark overclocked to 1.6 any ideas? Thanks
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Have you considered there is a reason that your phone was only sold as capable of 1.2 GHz?
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Have you considered there is a reason that your phone was only sold as capable of 1.2 GHz?
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Wow... You got real issues man..The OP is just looking for some tips from others that have succeeded in getting their phones to 1.6.. You need some help buddy...
If youve nothing nice to say..
But then I guess youd never speak would you?
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If youve nothing nice to say..
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Hope you heed your own advice.
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Wow... You got real issues man..The OP is just looking for some tips from others that have succeeded in getting their phones to 1.6.. You need some help buddy...
If youve nothing nice to say..
But then I guess youd never speak would you?
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I do not think entropy is the one who has issues...
This has been discussed in 10 different threads already and in great detail. If the OP did as much as search he would of have found the answer himself. That is why they call it research
the only question left is...... You mad bro?
Keep all voltages stock, then use voltage congrol and click on 1400 and increment the slider+ 25, then do the same for 1600. This is what i had to do to get my phone stable at 1.6 Some phones may need EXTRA voltage and others need less. It takes some testing to get your particular phone stable at anything over 1.2Ghz. I only did it to see if I saw any gains. Actually for me and my phone I found as far as MY SETUP and testing many different benchmark style apps at 1.4Ghz i got better benchmarks than i did at 1.6Ghz. Now everyones phones will act sligbtly different so your mileage may vary.
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At 1.6 ghz... your phone will be discharging your battery ON your charger... I personally wouldn't recommend doing it as it gets the phone really hot, and causes the chip lots of stress due to high heat. Personally if you need more performance (this phones pretty damn fast anyways) go to 1.4ghz.
Most of our phones can be overclocked to 1.4 and some can go to 1.6 but not all. If you change the voltages and it still craps out, then take it down a notch to 1.4 and see how that works for you.
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Now now. Since when do we encourage keeping things stock.
My point is - if it were guaranteed to hit 1.6, it would be sold as 1.6.
Being able to hit 1.6 is luck of the draw, pure and simple.
There's a reason:
1) OC is not default on my kernel
2) I held off on providing OC support for a while here, and NEVER released it on Infuse (users weren't mature enough to handle it over there)
3) I have a warning in GIANT RED LETTERS not to complain about OC stability issues on my kernel thread.
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My point is - if it were guaranteed to hit 1.6, it would be sold as 1.6.
Being able to hit 1.6 is luck of the draw, pure and simple.
There's a reason:
1) OC is not default on my kernel
2) I held off on providing OC support for a while here, and NEVER released it on Infuse (users weren't mature enough to handle it over there)
3) I have a warning in GIANT RED LETTERS not to complain about OC stability issues on my kernel thread.
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This is all true... but the OP was simply asking a question now lets all play nice.
We should have an OC that allows n00bs to melt their cpu.... 2.5ghz ftw
No no no.... We have too many "I tried to load the ICS in the I9100 forums, and I bricked my phone, please help!" threads. we don't need "I OC'ed my phone to 8ghz and melted my cpu" threads too
Tegrak allows you to go past 1.6. I thought these CPU were locked @ 1.6 but i had to up my voltage at 1.7 and i got a small bump in my benches though i probably did run my test enough to confirm the bump. At so.e point, when i get some time ill beat on my CPU some more
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At 1.6 ghz... your phone will be discharging your battery ON your charger... I personally wouldn't recommend doing it as it gets the phone really hot, and causes the chip lots of stress due to high heat. Personally if you need more performance (this phones pretty damn fast anyways) go to 1.4ghz.
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I ran my phone at 1.6 for days just to see performance. No UV at all.. battery certainly drained faster, but not while charging. It charged just fine.. and stayed cool even when stressing. Like many have stated, all CPU's are slightly different .. just cause yours melts at 1.6 and wont charge doesn't mean this will happen for anyone trying to run 1.6GHz.
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Try bumpin' up the voltage 1-2 notches.
Just to add to the stats...
I've been able to run @ 1.4 with the same voltage as 1.2, but my phone will freeze once in a while when running apps like camera or navigation. Had to bump the voltage up slightly to get it stable, though I will likely just run 1.2.
I cannot run at 1.6.
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Just to add to the stats...
I've been able to run @ 1.4 with the same voltage as 1.2, but my phone will freeze once in a while when running apps like camera or navigation. Had to bump the voltage up slightly to get it stable, though I will likely just run 1.2.
I cannot run at 1.6.
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Try changing or updating your kernel. Im the OP and had the same problems. with the new siyah kernel at 1.6 even if i try i cant make it lock up or freeze.
Your processor was made from a different silicon wafer than other people's phones and was rated for 1.2ghz.
Since each wafer is different, some processors take voltage better than others as well as speed. It happens.
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So i have cm7 installed on my NT and the performance is just fine. But i heard that overclocking can increase performance and battery life. I dont really care all that much about performance but battery life is really essesntial to me and i wanna max it out. So as an OC'ing newb i would like to hear from you guys what the easiest way to OC is and what a safe OCing speed is once i know how. Id like a speed thats very stable yet still yields up the benefits. Thanks for all the help you guys
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Well first of all, we would need the proper kernels in the system folders for it work in the first place (which isn't). From what I have read in the Android Dev thread, they are working on it and the would post instructions and details when the time comes.
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Well first of all, we would need the proper kernels in the system folders for it work in the first place (which isn't). From what I have read in the Android Dev thread, they are working on it and the would post instructions and details when the time comes.
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Thanks, I'll look forward to that
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So i have cm7 installed on my NT and the performance is just fine. But i heard that overclocking can increase performance and battery life. I dont really care all that much about performance but battery life is really essesntial to me and i wanna max it out. So as an OC'ing newb i would like to hear from you guys what the easiest way to OC is and what a safe OCing speed is once i know how. Id like a speed thats very stable yet still yields up the benefits. Thanks for all the help you guys
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OCing will not increase battery life. In fact, it'll do the opposite, decrease your battery life. I haven't read this anywhere, but that just has to be the case. It's like saying the driving 100 miles uses less gas then driving 30 miles.
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OCing will not increase battery life. In fact, it'll do the opposite, decrease your battery life. I haven't read this anywhere, but that just has to be the case. It's like saying the driving 100 miles uses less gas then driving 30 miles.
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I think that the OP is refering more to Underclocking to get more out of his battery life. I cannot comment when the dev team will release this yet.
yea overclocking with an on demand profile should yield better battery life although the kernels probably already has built in settings for screen off and such?
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yea overclocking with an on demand profile should yield better battery life although the kernels probably already has built in settings for screen off and such?
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Yah but you can never have long enough battery life!
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I too am looking forward to when we can play with OCing this wonderful hardware. I sure the devs will get to it eventually. First we must get a 3.x kernel developed and then ICS/CM9. Once this happens I'm sure there will be plenty of tweaks/scripts to play with not to derail but is it possible(and safe) to play around with build.prop and init.d? I am currently running CM7 Alpha12.
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I too am looking forward to when we can play with OCing this wonderful hardware. I sure the devs will get to it eventually. First we must get a 3.x kernel developed and then ICS/CM9. Once this happens I'm sure there will be plenty of tweaks/scripts to play with not to derail but is it possible(and safe) to play around with build.prop and init.d? I am currently running CM7 Alpha12.
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Yes, It´s time to start OC in NT, for Kindle Fire there are a lot of OC kernels, Not the same for the NT.
Team-B does indeed have an OC in progress. It is in testing now. So far it seems to run very stable at 1188 Mhz (that is the version I am currently testing, altho Goncezilla has ran his to 1250 Mhz stable I believe)
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Team-B does indeed have an OC in progress. It is in testing now. So far it seems to run very stable at 1188 Mhz (that is the version I am currently testing, altho Goncezilla has ran his to 1250 Mhz stable I believe)
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As OP states i am indeed a noob. If i overclock a device will i save battery or burn it faster?
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As OP states i am indeed a noob. If i overclock a device will i save battery or burn it faster?
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Overclocking by itself will typically decrease battery life. Undervolting, on the other hand, has great potential to increase battery life, even when combined with overclocking.
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Overclocking by itself will typically decrease battery life. Undervolting, on the other hand, has great potential to increase battery life, even when combined with overclocking.
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Ok. Whats undervolting?
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Running the processor on a lower voltage than stock. Many chips may be able to run just fine using less power.
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Can any one post some bencharks of roms? for example Stock Samsung ICS Rom and CM9? Really want to know if roms compared to stock Samsung and CM9 make diference in speed? Please
1) Benchmarks are meaningless. The only people who think benchmarks are useful are normally the people who fap off over their benchmark scores. They're simply not any indication of real world performance of the phone.
2) Why not flash each rom & run benchmarks yourself ? Easy to do.
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1) Benchmarks are meaningless. The only people who think benchmarks are useful are normally the people who fap off over their benchmark scores. They're simply not any indication of real world performance of the phone.
2) Why not flash each rom & run benchmarks yourself ? Easy to do.
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This ^
I can easily manipulate the same ROM and Kernel to get whatever Benchmark scores I want without too much difficulty, it would also likely be impossible for anyone to tell I did it other than the fact that my scores would be unbelievably high/low.
Also, some ROMs run better than others on a ROM/kernel combo depending on their ability to handle OC/UV and GPU tweaks, not every handset can handle these things in the same way (I have 2 GT-I9100Ms, one can handle heavy UV while the other doesn't seem to be able to handle any, based on the serial numbers they were manufactured at roughly the same time, possibly the same batch) so what benchmarks well for one person may show awful results for another.
Thank you for your replies. the thing is i dont have S2 any more and waiting for S3. but curious about ROM well samsung rom should have better optimisation of drivers and so on because it's their rom well thats what i think but thats why i posted this to find out. ok so in real life what do you think witch is faster on browsing gaming and so on?
You mean between S2 and S3? Its obvious..
Bout benchmarks, always get higher quadrant on stock, and low on cm9/ aosp. But aosp runs as fast or faster in real life.
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You mean between S2 and S3? Its obvious..
Bout benchmarks, always get higher quadrant on stock, and low on cm9/ aosp. But aosp runs as fast or faster in real life.
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I agree here, Touchwiz based ROMs seem to benchmark higher, while AOSP seems smoother in real world situations, I'm sure there are people out there who have the opposite results, so you aren't likely to get a consensus on whether one is better/faster/smoother than the other.
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1) Benchmarks are meaningless. The only people who think benchmarks are useful are normally the people who fap off over their benchmark scores. They're simply not any indication of real world performance of the phone.
2) Why not flash each rom & run benchmarks yourself ? Easy to do.
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That's actually not true. Period.
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That's actually not true. Period.
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Did you write that one-handed? Question mark. (why are we writing punctuation?)
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Did you write that one-handed? Question mark. (why are we writing punctuation?)
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You do know it's to emphasise my point and it's a pretty common way to do it right?
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Yeah it is true. You bumped a two month old thread simply to say "That's actually not true. Period.", so let's hear it champ. Tell us why that's the case. Or are you just another benchmark fapper who's FOS ?
I gave up porn a long time ago to masturbate furiously over benchmarks. This has actually had numerous positive effects on both my social life and my sex life.
First, using benchmarks instead of porn allows me to tailor exactly the intensity of fapping I want at that time in a easy, quick and efficient way. No longer do I have to wade through numerous porn videos trying to find that one attractive girl or that one interesting concept to fap to - now I can simply tweak my ROM and Kernel a little bit and get a score which reflects my horniness. Say I'd been camping with my trio of male friends for a week and having to share a tent the entire time, naturally fapping in such a situation would be frowned upon. When I finally get home I would be ready for a really special fap, so maybe I'd tune the scores upto a good 9000 and really crank one out. For everyday use, I use a steady 6000 score. This allows me to really optimize the amount of time I spend fapping per day.
Secondly, exchanging porn for benchmarks has had an extremely positive effect on my Sex life. No more am I staring at Pornstar's penises amazed at their size and wishing I had a similar prowess in bed. No longer am I insecure about sex or constantly wondering whether women actually like getting slapped. Now, when I have sex, I'm thinking one thing and one thing only - a score of 12000 in Quadrant. I am 12000, I am that score, I embody that score, that score is me and it drives me to hump like a God. Indeed, I can attest to the fact that fapping over benchmarks is far better than porn. So I say go OP go, I understand your plight, don't let these meth head unemployed porn addicts ever talk you out of your love of benchmarks, stay strong OP, stay fapping.
Hahahahahaha ;-) That could be the greatest post on XDA. Ever.
I used stock indian rom which was way more scoring than galaxy nexus f1 rom.
Mostly the difference was in i/o score.
Still will show you the stock score with speedmod kernel. :thumbup:
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