Just a quick question about backups.
If you want to do an update to a new ROM and do a NAND backup, if you want to revert to the older one does it revert fully to the way it was?
I am on Villainrom 12 and have a few apps, etc. If I try a new ROM will I be able to go back to my Villainrom with everything the way it was, or does it go back to the ROM minus all the apps.
do i need to back them up separately?
A nandroid backup *should* suffice,.. but I have had times when sometimes all apps don't get restored, or the backup simply refuses to restore anything at all.
... I use titanium as a fail safe to be sure.
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ok cheers, It is something I have always wondered
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Hi, my gs2 is rooted with CF-Root, this is the FIRST time i have done all this as im new to Android. Last night i did a nandroid backup and a titanium backup, factory/cache wipe etc before i then flashed villainrom 2.4.2 for the first time with success and now my phone is obviously like it was out of the box but on villainrom, so all my apps, contacts etc have gone.
I have a few questions:
Whats the best way to restore everything and get my contacts and apps etc back? do i have to recover with nandroid or titanium?
whats the difference between these 2 backups i made, nan/titan?
also does recovering any of these backups affect the custom rom i just flashed? ideally i would like to know for when im flashing custom roms in the future, which is the best way to back things up then recover them after i have flashed a custom rom?
One last thing is can i still use samsung kies to backup/sync things like contacts/photos with a rooted gs2 running villainrom?
Sorry for these noob questions, any help is really appreciated! THX!
Sorry to post again but can anybody adivise me on the above?
Thanks.
A nand backup = backup your current setup, like an image (including ROM)
Titanum = backup apps +/ data
Now that you flashed a new rom, you should restore with Titanium your apps.
So - If you want to go back to your earlier ROM + everything, use your nand back up. If you want to stay on this ROM and have the apps back, use Titanium.
And once you flashed a custom rom, you can't use Kies anymore to update/back up etc.
Cheers
Right i wasnt fully sure so thx for the help, time to restore some apps!
Thanks again
ok so i just S-OFF'd with the Juopunutbear tool and i have a few questions.
Before you give me the "search it up" talk i cant find it.
1. i know i can switch back and forth between GB and ICS Nandroid backups but when i restore, say the ics backup, is it the equivalent of flashing the ics ruu and the rom and kernel i was on?
2. do i have to re-do a backup to make it backup the boot image or is it already backed up but couldnt be restored?
3.whats the best way to back up my desktop in terms of setup? like the layout, wallpaper and accounts. because if i backed up all system apps from 4.0.3. using titanium backup it wouldnt work on GB right?
number 3 is the most important question because i would like to get back on GB and use incredikernel but i lost my old nandroid backup for GB and so much has changed anyway.
So if you could answer these questions that would be great.
NOOB question - restoring after flashing a new ROM
I get how to do a Nandroid back up...
I get how to do a Titanium Backup...
I would think you do a nandroid backup in case you want to undo everything and go back to a stable ROM and applications...
I would think that when you try out a new custom ROM you'd back up with Titanium and then simply restore your system data and applications with data after you flash the new ROM... BUT most of the new ROM's come with the instructions not to restore from Titanium as it may make things unstable....
So what do you frequent flashers do?
Do you ignore the Dev's telling you not to restore with TI or do you reinstall everything from scratch?
Is there a better way?
Sorry if this is a dumb question...I have hit the thanks button to many of you!
Thanks to all - great forum...
Personally, I restore user apps and selectively some system stuff. Like if I have a newer version of maps, then I'll restore. If it's dialer storage with mms apn etc then no. Every time I try to restore text that way it just screws up my messaging. I do restore bookmark data, launchers, widgets, email, keyboards. Best bet is to set backup limit to 2, backup prior to flash, backup before restoring. restore what you'd like if something is broken, restore data to proper system app. I strongly recommend not restoring dialer storage, just download SMS backup and restore
Over time and experience you'll get what you can and can't restore through titanium backup, from there you can create a custom label for system items that you will restore, and just back those up vs everything
Also, you can restore with titanium backup from nandroid backups now, just in case
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fast question
if u have read my other threads let me recall because i though i had fix my problem, but like an idiot i went into recovery without flashing cwm so i lost everything again.
So,
i have flash back stock honeycomb 3.2
when i try to restore a backup (that was made on 3.1), it goes down to 3.1 and crash when i try to update to 3.2 to then update to 4.0.4
so i decided to flash 4.0.4 (stock ICS from sammobile) and reinstall all my apps one by one
But,
i still have my backup, my ICS is now rooted and flashed with cwm
i want to know, if after installing all my apps, i go into recovery and try to do an advance restore of data only, will it work ?
am sorry to be a pain in the ass with all my questions, i couldnt find the anwser
I think the answers were there in your original thread but you are looking for an easier way to go. I am not sure there is one. Since the hard way requires restoring fully your honeycomb install you may as well try data restore from nandroid first, hopefully it works out well.
I'm not experienced in using nandroid backups for partial data restores, titanium is better suited for that. To me, nandroid is for full system restore.
So again, if all else fails the best option is to restore the honeycomb nandroid, make sure that the device is rooted, install titanium, run full backup, backup all files off of sd to your computer via usb (your nandroid, your photos, your titanium backups , etc) and then update back to the system you want. Once back to ICS you can install your apps, root, install titanium and restore data for the apps you need. Be careful with this, obviously there are compatibility issues between the two systems.
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muzzy996 said:
I think the answers were there in your original thread but you are looking for an easier way to go. I am not sure there is one. Since the hard way requires restoring fully your honeycomb install you may as well try data restore from nandroid first, hopefully it works out well.
I'm not experienced in using nandroid backups for partial data restores, titanium is better suited for that. To me, nandroid is for full system restore.
So again, if all else fails the best option is to restore the honeycomb nandroid, make sure that the device is rooted, install titanium, run full backup, backup all files off of sd to your computer via usb (your nandroid, your photos, your titanium backups , etc) and then update back to the system you want. Once back to ICS you can install your apps, root, install titanium and restore data for the apps you need. Be careful with this, obviously there are compatibility issues between the two systems.
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The thing is that i spent like 2 days doing all that and now am on ics with my apps installed, its mostly my saved games that i dont have and was looking for a way to restore them.
Nainconpetant said:
The thing is that i spent like 2 days doing all that and now am on ics with my apps installed, its mostly my saved games that i dont have and was looking for a way to restore them.
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The only way to restore only your apps is like the post above, you had to install titanium backup like i said in the PM i sended you, and then backup all your apps with titanium backup, save everything to your PC via USB cable and then install another ROM... so... i know it's very annoying and very hard.... but my opinion is to restore your nandroid backup (full system restore) download Titanium backup from google play, backup your data, and in case you deleted your nandroid, make a new one!!
But there could be compatibility problems when you backup your data what causes errors...
It's a pain in the ass to do it, but it's the only way i guess...
Bah, i dont feel like flashing again, ill start over my nfs hot pursuit, reckless getaway and jewel maze. i wasnt playing much with the other games installed
I remember that i did a nandroid backup cause i found it was more user friendly to create a full backup at the time i did it than with titanium.
Thanks for your help
Yah lessons learned. We've all learned them too . . nandroid is great for jumping between systems or for reverting to a clean one but it's not so great for restoring apps/data to or from differing systems; for that it's usually best to install apps clean and restore data via titanium.
I make it a habit now of doing both and saving both to an external device (either a usb flash drive or to my PC) prior to moving systems.
Hi,
4.2 of Jelly Bean update could be imminent for my Nexus 7, and I'm wondering about what and how to backup before the update. The question I think is a general android one though... which is why I'm posting it here.
This was going to be a question about factory reset... but reading other posts I think I now understand that factory reset just deletes data/cache, so I think any time you do that it's just gonna return the device to a clean ROM state without changing the ROM. (whatever flavour/version ROM is)
When a ROM update is applied (either official or manually flashed), I guess it wipes everything, is it like a disk format or something like that? I have installed CWM recovery and rooted my device, I think the update will unroot it, but will the CWM recovery still be loaded?
And then, what backup should I take before the update... I think a Titanium Backup is a must, I understand how that works. But a Nandroid backup too? Or is that more like taking a disk image, would that be useless to restore after the ROM has been updated? And if so, does that mean any old Nandroid backups should be discarded?
Once the new update to 4.2 is installed, is it advisable to take a Nandroid backup immediately, or better to download the stock 4.2 image and keeping it as a starting point? (does this amount to the same thing?) I guess this is where a factory reset would return it to stock (providing I haven't moved anything to the system apps)?
Or is it possible/better to use a Nandroid backup as a point in time image of everything that's been installed on the device after adding back all the apps etc? I guess that leads me to wonder if the Nandroid backup is needed at all if I'm going with the Titanium Backups...
Thanks a lot and sorry for the lengthy question, I've seen many posts touching on this
stillchimp said:
Hi,
4.2 of Jelly Bean update could be imminent for my Nexus 7, and I'm wondering about what and how to backup before the update. The question I think is a general android one though... which is why I'm posting it here.
This was going to be a question about factory reset... but reading other posts I think I now understand that factory reset just deletes data/cache, so I think any time you do that it's just gonna return the device to a clean ROM state without changing the ROM. (whatever flavour/version ROM is)
When a ROM update is applied (either official or manually flashed), I guess it wipes everything, is it like a disk format or something like that? I have installed CWM recovery and rooted my device, I think the update will unroot it, but will the CWM recovery still be loaded?
And then, what backup should I take before the update... I think a Titanium Backup is a must, I understand how that works. But a Nandroid backup too? Or is that more like taking a disk image, would that be useless to restore after the ROM has been updated? And if so, does that mean any old Nandroid backups should be discarded?
Once the new update to 4.2 is installed, is it advisable to take a Nandroid backup immediately, or better to download the stock 4.2 image and keeping it as a starting point? (does this amount to the same thing?) I guess this is where a factory reset would return it to stock (providing I haven't moved anything to the system apps)?
Or is it possible/better to use a Nandroid backup as a point in time image of everything that's been installed on the device after adding back all the apps etc? I guess that leads me to wonder if the Nandroid backup is needed at all if I'm going with the Titanium Backups...
Thanks a lot and sorry for the lengthy question, I've seen many posts touching on this
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1. OTA updates should let you retain your apps.
2. Clockworkmod will still be installed following the update.
3. Nandroid backups are like a system image it makes a backup of everything on your phone (Minus sd card external) at the exact point in time when you make the backup. If you restore the backup it will restore your phone to the exact state it was in when you made the backup. You only need to keep a couple of your recent nandroid backups on your phone.
4. After the 4.2 update you can either make a backup or use a factory restore image it will make no difference. Factory reset would return it to stock.
5. You can use nandroid to make a backup after you install your apps in fact I would recommend this that way you have a convient restore point. You can also backup your apps with titanium backup.
Hope this answers some of your questions .
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shimp208 said:
1. OTA updates should let you retain your apps.
2. Clockworkmod will still be installed following the update.
3. Nandroid backups are like a system image it makes a backup of everything on your phone (Minus sd card external) at the exact point in time when you make the backup. If you restore the backup it will restore your phone to the exact state it was in when you made the backup. You only need to keep a couple of your recent nandroid backups on your phone.
4. After the 4.2 update you can either make a backup or use a factory restore image it will make no difference. Factory reset would return it to stock.
5. You can use nandroid to make a backup after you install your apps in fact I would recommend this that way you have a convient restore point. You can also backup your apps with titanium backup.
Hope this answers some of your questions .
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Excellent, thanks for the fast reply, you did answer my questions!
I was misunderstanding then about the 4.2 update, thinking it was equivalent to flashing a new ROM... you clarified it for me, seems it's less severe than that.
I think I'll go with your point 5 to use a Nandroid image for a convenient restore point after the OTA happens