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I think I'm ready to take the plunge into using a voodoo rom/kernel. Currently I'm running sc2.8 (nonvoodoo). From what I gather, the procedure is as simple as flashing a voodoo rom/kernel combo in CWM (red) and then you have it? Or is there something I'm missing?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979744
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I followed this, and I have been able to go to voodoo, back to non voodoo and back to voodoo, without any problems.
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I think I'm ready to take the plunge into using a voodoo rom/kernel. Currently I'm running sc2.8 (nonvoodoo). From what I gather, the procedure is as simple as flashing a voodoo rom/kernel combo in CWM (red) and then you have it? Or is there something I'm missing?
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The link above this is very informative, and I definitely recommend you read it. However, since you already have SC2.8 flashed, there's really no reason to temporarily lose everything you have (apps, texts, etc).
You should be able to just go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983395 and download the eb01_voodoo.zip file located here eb01_voodoo.zip (the eb16 kernel there doesn't actually show as 16 in the OS, and a proper EB16 kernel Adry provided somewhere in the old thread breaks bluetooth). You should be able to just flash the zip via CWM and reboot. Listen to RoboLady, then you're done!
luigi1111 said:
The link above this is very informative, and I definitely recommend you read it. However, since you already have SC2.8 flashed, there's really no reason to temporarily lose everything you have (apps, texts, etc).
You should be able to just go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983395 and download the eb01_voodoo.zip file located here eb01_voodoo.zip (the eb16 kernel there doesn't actually show as 16 in the OS, and a proper EB16 kernel Adry provided somewhere in the old thread breaks bluetooth). You should be able to just flash the zip via CWM and reboot. Listen to RoboLady, then you're done!
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I did this, and while I now get 1500+ scores in quadrant, gapps keeps force closing
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I did this, and while I now get 1500+ scores in quadrant, gapps keeps force closing
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Sorry, I completely forgot to include: Go into Recovery, Advanced menu, and clear Dalvik cache. If that doesn't fix the FCs you could try wiping the regular cache and/or factory reset, though I don't think just upgrading the kernel should require that.
Hey guys looking for some input Im getting a new vibrant and it should have 2.1 stock eclair, I want to flash the bionix v rom, my question is will i need 2.2 froyo before i flash bionix or can i flash from 2.1. or if I need 2.2 how should I go about this step by step please Thanks.
No buddy you will not need to upgrade to 2.2 first. You made a great decision on picking a rom though, best/smoothest one there is IMO. Here is what you should do:
Go to vibrant development forum
Download the AIO vibrant toolbox, it's one of the first stickies.
Install it. Within that toolbox app, install the drivers (i think you also need to have .net 4 installed also which is standard on win7)
Download bionix or whatever rom it is that you want
Make sure your phone is hooked up to the usb and debugging is ON and usb storage is OFF
Click "flash custom rom"
Point the program to your bionix file (which you should have on the computer, NOT the phone!)
Your phone will restart, click reinstall package, it will restart again, and click reinstall packages again. This will bring up your new clockwork mod recovery. Click install update.zip!
Your done!
There is quite a few different ways of doing what you requested, but i would say this is the easiest/most noob friendly way to get started. Hope i helped! You can also send me a pm if you need more one on one help That toolbox is a MUST HAVE regardless of if you follow my directions or not. It will save you if you mess your phone up.
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No buddy you will not need to upgrade to 2.2 first. You made a great decision on picking a rom though, best/smoothest one there is IMO. Here is what you should do:
Go to vibrant development forum
Download the AIO vibrant toolbox, it's one of the first stickies.
Install it. Within that toolbox app, install the drivers (i think you also need to have .net 4 installed also which is standard on win7)
Download bionix or whatever rom it is that you want
Make sure your phone is hooked up to the usb and debugging is ON and usb storage is OFF
Click "flash custom rom"
Point the program to your bionix file (which you should have on the computer, NOT the phone!)
Your phone will restart, click reinstall package, it will restart again, and click reinstall packages again. This will bring up your new clockwork mod recovery. Click install update.zip!
Your done!
There is quite a few different ways of doing what you requested, but i would say this is the easiest/most noob friendly way to get started. Hope i helped! You can also send me a pm if you need more one on one help That toolbox is a MUST HAVE regardless of if you follow my directions or not. It will save you if you mess your phone up.
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Thanks for replying like a boss!
I am also getting the itch to flash a rom and was going to go with Bionix as well. My only question I have is do i haver to install a different modem as well? I live in Chicago. Will i lose all my apps and data when flashing? Can i still get avatar and sims back on bionix?
I cannot confirm Avatar, I THINK there is a fix for it but right out of the flash I am leaning towards no. Sims should be ok.
I am kinda confused on the question of the apps though. Are you talking about stock apps or ones you dl'ed to the phone?
Stock apps you can reinstall via the bloater app. Extra apps I suggest using Titanium Back up to back them up.
I am not familiar with the AIO toolbox as I have been doing it comfortably the old school way of root, clockwork, flash. If that tool roots for you then dl TB and back up ONLY user apps, not system data. After you flash Bionix you can load them back up.
All the posted Roms come with the modem upgrade, if you do not like the one installed then the Bionix thread also has a link to different modems. Majority of people are experiencing best results with KB1 and KA6.
bionix v
So I have new vibrant with 2.2 froyo and wanted to know can I flash bionix v rom onto phone with no problems???
johnmo26 said:
So I have new vibrant with 2.2 froyo and wanted to know can I flash bionix v rom onto phone with no problems???
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Should be fine, just root and go. If you can get root and Clockwork then you can flash.
hi
im new to Samsung and android, i want to test out some
ROMS. my phone was bought secondhand and it came pre
loaded with the details in my signature.
i have read through most of the newbie guide lines here on
this site on how to flash but nowhere (as for what i saw)
does not mention on how to test if your phone has a lagfix or by
which method.
as i have read you got to turn off the lag fix before flashing ROM's
so how do i turn mine off.
thanks
HtcDia
*** my current phone details are in my signature ***
Thank you for posting in the correct section and reading some material before posting!
As to your question, if you are completely stock (rooted or not), your Vibrant does NOT have a lag fix enabled. Most of the newer Roms allows for flashing over a lag-fixed (Voodoo) enabled kernel, but only if it comes equipped with a Voodoo injected kernel.
Basically
No lagfix enabled -> Can flash any rom (voodoo kernel or non voodoo kernel)
Lag fix enabled (Voodoo) -> Can flash roms with Voodoo kernel without turning off Voodoo | Must disable Voodoo to flash non-Voodoo kernels
edit: I'm not sure if that is the answer you're looking for but if you go to the red CWM recovery, you can go to Voodoo -> Disable Voodoo. If you do not have a red recovery, then most likely you do not have a Voodoo enabled kernel, thus do not have a lagfix in place. (I assume you also did not use One-Click Lagfix)
thanks anthonys2r
i have not seen either voodoo or anything pertaining to it on my phone nor
have i done the one click fix.
so i can safely assume that i do not have one in place.
thanks for the answer it is perfect
HtcDia
^ You may want to start "fresh" and use ODIN to go back to stock... very easy process (check my signature).
You likely DO have a lagfix (ext4 "voodoo"). But, if your next rom has voodoo enabled, it will not matter if you disable it or not.
There is an app, Voodoo toggle in the market you can use... or you can reboot into CWR and go to the voodoo section. It will also tell you.
Here is the Simply Honey ROM THREAD
Not sure if you were planning on updating or trying a new rom... if the latter, really recommend going back to stock again. I would also encourage Trigger 3.2... its 2.2 but it's stable/themed well!
opening a terminal emulator and typing the command: mount should tell you what file system you're running. Unless everything lists RFS you have a lagfix enabled. If not just 3-button to recovery and scroll down to voodoo... It will tell you inside if it's activated or not.
s15274n
It's funny you should suggest that i should checked your signature
because most of the stuff that i have gathered initially till present
came from your links LOL.
thanks for providing them as they are great material for android scardy
noobs like me.
yes i do have voodoo. i actually found it lol.
if im right what i want to do is now upgrade my version.1 Simply Honey ROM
to another stable version just to get a feel of flashing and stuff
thanks
HD
Good stuff man.... glad that it helped.
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Good stuff man.... glad that it helped.
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On a related question, i can't initiate voodoo for some reason. I read the log and it said "model not detected". Anyway to correct this?
I cant seem to enable voodoo on my phone I have trigger 3.2 and I flashed overstock 1.5.2UV, I'm coming back from CM7 and I don't have the red clockwork recovery either? What can I flash to get this going I have Voodoo toggle that doesn't work neither does voodoo control ...
Did you odin back to stock and then flash Trigger and Overstock?
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On a related question, i can't initiate voodoo for some reason. I read the log and it said "model not detected". Anyway to correct this?
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Mine says the same thing anyway to correct this...I've already odin, wiped, re partition with odin and still nothing
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Did you odin back to stock and then flash Trigger and Overstock?
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Yes I did, I'm going to do a few more things to see if I can get it to work
Hm. When booting Trigger for the first time did you hear the voice enabling voodoo?
No Im sure it has to do with CM7 file systems or something...
If you odin'd back and checked repartition that should have wiped the CM7 filesystem and reverted it back to stock RFS.
And you are on Trigger and don't have the red Clockwork?
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If you odin'd back and checked repartition that should have wiped the CM7 filesystem and reverted it back to stock RFS.
And you are on Trigger and don't have the red Clockwork?
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I did check repartition it didn't work log file in voodoo folder still says model not detected, Im about to see what happen when I flash trigger 3.2 again I formated system in CWM and odin with repartition checked....
still nothing dam...
Just read another possible solution in a different thread that I didn't think of...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096439
Try to use Eugene's odin rom, and then go back to stock JFD and see if that fixes it.
I got it you have to odin Eugene's froyo that doesn't brick, then I used Eugene's 2.2 Downgrade odin flashed that annnnnndddddd now I'm flashing Trigger and I can hear Lindas voice now
Happy flashing.
I've been at this for like 3-4 hours and have gotten NOWHERE.
Okay, so I wasn't always rooted, I waited and waited and waited for Froyo, thinking it was going to be awesome - then it OTA'ed to me, and I've had NOTHING but problems. Battery life went down like 1/2 as much (if not more) on a good day, problems with the vibrations, ring volumes, some parts are laggier, the largest problem is that the new radio image SUCKS and the newest thing, there's some texts and calls that it never gets. I've never seen such a failed update in my entire life. /rant
Anyway, I've been searching and searching and searching so pleeeeeeeeeeeease don't tell me to search anymore.
I'm interested in putting the Ultimate KangBang 2.1 on my phone (end result). So that requires 2.0 as it's a patch - fine.
So first, yes, my phone is rooted, I can run su and get a root shell on my phone (if that's proof I guess?).
The clockwork mod is KILLING me, though.
The problem is I have version 3e of the recovery mode thing which is stopping unsigned files. I've been trying to get clockwork mod 3.X installed for easily the last 2 hours and had nothing but dead links or nothing happened.
I thought I found the answer a little while ago, using this write-up on installing the clockwork mod, I downloaded cwm-recovery-ALL.tar, and pushed it to the phone with Odin, unplugged it upon successful flash, restarted it, held vol down and power, nothing. Eventually holding up (I think it was up) and power got me to standard samsung recovery mode (ie. it did jack ****). Never-the-less, I went in and used the ROM manager to install clockwork mod 3.X, it said it worked..but it didn't.
I can't install things via update of root because I have 3E of the recovery, and I can't get clockwork mod to work for the life of me. I've been googling the **** out of everything I can think of to get the clockwork mod to work, but have come up with outdated forums, or broken ass links.
NOTHING WORKS!
The only think that worked (once) was when I used "reboot into recovery mode" from ROM manager, it rebooted into clockwork recovery..but upon reboot again it booted into the standard recovery mode.
How the HELL do I get the clockwork mod on my phone because believe me when I tell you I've searched and I have a plethora of useless ass tabs cluttering my browser all being completely useless.
Please help
Yes, I'm sure this has been covered "many times" before, but I can't find a single one that works.
TIA :'(
Do you have gtalk ?
All you have to do is download (google) odin http://download1422.mediafire.com/ii...din3+v1.83.exe (its a program made by samsung) and a odinable recovery.tar from this site http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36791/CWM3_Voodoo.tar.md5
Then in odin you place the recovery.tar in the pda section dont click any other things NEVER EVER CLICK PHONE then hit start once it says pass on odin you unplug your phone from the usb and exit odin then put the battery back in and boot directly into recovery ( press/hold the buttons volume up+down and power at the same time) then wipe data/factory reset in recovery then flash either a kernel or rom to make the recovery stick.
Make sure you already have a rom or kernel on your sdcard.
I'm not the best at explaining things but i know exactly what you need to do.
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Do you have gtalk ?
All you have to do is download (google) odin (its a program made by samsung) and a odinable recovery.tar from this site.
Then in odin you place the recovery.tar in the pda section dont click any other things NEVER EVER CLICK PHONE then hit start once it says pass on odin you unplug your phone from the usb and exit odin then put the battery back in and boot directly into recovery ( press/hold the buttons volume up/down and power at the same time) then flash either a kernel or rom to make the recovery stick.
I'm not the best at explaining things but i know exactly what you need to do.
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I'm not trying to be a douche, I know you're trying to help, but can you re-read (or initially read) the 8th paragraph in my post? I know the post is a bit long, but I tried slimming the post down a bit :-\.
EDIT:
gtalk as in the voice program? No, it's not installed on my desktop nor my phone - I use Skype for voice/vid and AIM/gmail for chat.
You're liable to get help more quickly (and with less flaming) if you post questions in the correction section -- please see this stickied thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038478
As far as your issue goes, your first problem is that you don't actually want to use ROM Manager. Koush's recoveries no longer work with this phone. The working CWMs for the Fascinate are all modded and have to be downloaded and flashed via ODIN (or another modded CWM).
jt's recovery is closer, but that's still an old version. The most functional pre-packaged one right now is at the top of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
Just follow the instructions in that post, and you should be good.
Oh, one other thing -- it doesn't sound like you were using the correct key combination for CWM, so that's probably why jt's wouldn't boot. It's all three keys: power+vol up+vol down, not just power+up or down.
Completely forgot to include the phone specs, my mistake:
Recovery Version: 3e
HW Version: I500.05
Model #: SCH-I500
Firmware Version: 2.2.1
Baseband Version: S:i500.05 V.ED04
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9
Build Number: SCH-I500.ED04
Just a note on that build number, one of the clockwork mod posts had a whole list of CWM's which were like JYX, JYZ, stuff like that, and they were like "pick whichever cwm matches your phone's build #, blah blah" My phone's build # has no J's in it, and I didn't want to brick it.
Did you boot directly into recovery after putting your battery back in ? You can't boot into the OS before going straight to recovery from odin or else it overwrites the custom recovery with the samsung one.
Falcyn said:
You're liable to get help more quickly (and with less flaming) if you post questions in the correction section -- please see this stickied thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038478
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My mistake, I read that when I initially joined, but forgot about it when I posted .
Falcyn said:
As far as your issue goes, your first problem is that you don't actually want to use ROM Manager. Koush's recoveries no longer work with this phone. The working CWMs for the Fascinate are all modded and have to be downloaded and flashed via ODIN (or another modded CWM).
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So ROM Manager is completely useless now?
Falcyn said:
jt's recovery is closer, but that's still an old version. The most functional pre-packaged one right now is at the top of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
Just follow the instructions in that post, and you should be good.
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I'll take a look at that now.
Falcyn said:
Oh, one other thing -- it doesn't sound like you were using the correct key combination for CWM, so that's probably why jt's wouldn't boot. It's all three keys: power+vol up+vol down, not just power+up or down.
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Confirmed 3x, holding down power + vol-up + vol-down starts the OEM Android recovery mode (ie. Android system recovery <3e>). From what I understand about the CWM, once it's installed and working, I should never see this screen again, it should always be the CWM boot screen, no?
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Did you boot directly into recovery after putting your battery back in ? You can't boot into the OS before going straight to recovery from odin or else it overwrites the custom recovery with the samsung one.
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I don't recall, actually, I'll try that now before I check out JT's recovery.
Same as above. But also hold all three buttons and wait for samsung logo to turn on off and back on then let go.
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Most likely you booted into the OS then powered down then did the 3 button method which would make the samsung recovery overwrite the one you odin'd.
Do this odin the recovery.tar I linked then when you put the battery back in hold volume up+volume down then press power as well make sure you're holding all three at the same time no just two of them. If you go to the custom recovery good job if it boots into the OS try again there is no way it should boot into the 3e recovery if the recovery is being flashed via odin and says pass.
Yes ROM Manager is 100% useless for us fascinate users.
Okay, I did that after flashing it with Odin (without letting it boot the OS) and "CwM Lagfix 2.5.X" came up. I then tried rebooting the phone and didn't hold it down and then it went into the OS. I then shut it down, pulled the battery, and held all three buttons again, but it brought up the standard Android recovery system .
From what I understood the clockwork mod was permanent, but everything I've seen on my phone makes it only temporary. Am I doing something wrong?
2.5? That's an even older version. What link did you use? The one I gave you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905 is a 3.x.
And yes, ROM Manager is essentially useless for our phone.
EDIT: You could always just ODIN the whole UKB 2.0 package, too, which will get you jump-started with CWM, a new kernel, and obviously the ROM itself:
http://www.mediafire.com/?a63v435opsaq3g3
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2.5? That's an even older version. What link did you use? The one I gave you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905 is a 3.x.
And yes, ROM Manager is essentially useless for our phone.
EDIT: You could always just ODIN the whole UKB 2.0 package, too, which will get you jump-started with CWM, a new kernel, and obviously the ROM itself:
http://www.mediafire.com/?a63v435opsaq3g3
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Yeah, I first tried it with the package I was working with from the thread I linked to in the OP from here.
Doesn't matter, though, same thing happened. I used the package in the link you gave me, flashed it to the phone, rebooted into recovery, worked fine with 3.X, then rebooted it and let the OS load, then powered it off, then tried to reboot into recovery and I got the standard Android system recovery.
Unless I'm missing something this "Android recovery system <3e>" should never be seen again, but it seems like the CWM flashes I'm doing are volatile on OS loads.
I'll check out that link now.
FINALLY!
I installed UKB 2.0 and CWB worked at first...so then I hit "Reboot" and loaded the OS. The OS loaded (UKB) and then I held the power button, and hit "recovery mode." This restarted it, but it loaded into "Android recovery system" - I was about to kill somebody, but then I noticed it was 2e, not 3e. So I took the CWM 3.0 and flashed it back, and now, whether I hold all three buttons or hit "recovery mode" from the hold power menu in the OS, it boots into CWM 3.0.
I'd like to say I think I've seen the last of the Android recovery system - but I know I haven't .
The only thing I can't figure out is why it has ARS 2e AND CWM on it. Seems like they're direct replacements for one another...I would say the UKB 2.0 ROM shipped with just ARS 2e and that was that - but it showed the CWM 3.0 before I loaded the UKB OS.
Is the ARS sitting "under" the clock work mod? Or are they direct replacements for one another?
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Also, which 2.0 ROM was that? I've been using this page as reference. That seems like the official page for that ROM. None of the 2.0 ROMs there are the link you gave me, though. I'm just curious if I should update the kernel or not, as the ROM either A) Didn't update it, or B) Included the same version. While I'm asking a question a second here, what is the PBJ setting and the OTB? I'm assuming OTB means out of the box, but I could be wrong, and I believe PBJ has something to do with power or under/overclocking, but I'm not quite sure..and even with the word android, google turns up lots of results for sandwiches under the query..
I do know that for a time we had to boot into the stock recovery, hit "update.zip," and then we'd reboot into CWM so at least at one time they did run side-by-side... but I honestly don't know if stock recovery is completely replaced now or if it just gets ignored.
Anyways, that was the official UKB/CR 2.0 ROM, but the ODIN file wasn't put together by TSM as it contains all the other components too. landshark68 packaged that up and his packages are all reliable.
As far as the kernel goes, the one included in what you flashed is a non-Voodoo PeanutButta Jelly Time kernel with a -50mv voltage reduction to help with battery life. That's a regular speed (1ghz) kernel.
Only The Brave (at first I thought it stood for Out of The Box too, go figure) is a more customizable kernel that can be both overclocked and voltage-reduced but starts out with neither.
I would recommend sticking with the PBJ kernels, personally, as they're actually good out of the box without having to play around with voltage controls manually.
The only reason you'd really want to switch kernels now is if you want to go to Voodoo... the PBJ kernel that ODIN file set you up with isn't.
The key to making cwm permanent is replacing the stock kernel. You can odin anything you want but if you leave the stock kernel it will overwrite your recovery every time it boots. Any of these custom kernels that are packaged in ukb roms should have the proper cwm included, but it may not hurt to update the recovery as new ones become available.
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While I'm asking a question a second here, what is the PBJ setting and the OTB? I'm assuming OTB means out of the box, but I could be wrong, and I believe PBJ has something to do with power or under/overclocking, but I'm not quite sure..and even with the word android, google turns up lots of results for sandwiches under the query..
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^^That's hysterical! Haha, I LOL'D when I saw that. I promise I'm not being an ass. PBJ stands for imnut's peanut butter jelly time kernel, and OTB stands for nemesis2all's Only The Brave kernel. If the package you flashed did not come with either one of those 2 custom kernels, you need to flash one. Either OTB 1.6 for Touchwiz based roms, or one of imnuts' PBJ kernels. Since I usually always use OTB, I'm more familiar with it and I know that it will permanently install CWM 3 for you upon installation and then you should no longer have any problems with stock recovery replacing your custom recovery. I'm pretty sure that PBJ does the same thing, but I dont know for sure as I havent used it. If you want full overclocking/undervolting abilities, you should probably flash OTB.. PBJ is not overclockable, I dont think, but again I could be wrong.. OTB gives you full control of voltage used for each frequency step available using the app "voltage control."
Oh, and voodoo, too. OTB kernels are all voodoo-enabled. Now you can run OTB kernels with voodoo disabled manually in recovery under the voodoo options, but with hiw good and reliable voodoo has become, and considering how much it speeds up your phone, im not really sure why anyone would use a galaxy s phone without voodoo or ext4 formatted partitions at least. But thats just me, as I realize some people prefer standard non-voodoo kernels.
To sum it up, I know for fact that using OTB kernels will replace stock recovery with CWM3 voodoo-enabled recovery, and you wont have it reflashing stock recovery like stock kernels do (which is the reason for the problems you were having).. PBJ might do the same thing, but im not sure because they're not voodoo kernels so I don't know if the PBJ kernels actually replace/update your recovery partition like OTB does. Either way, PBJ will not reflash stock recovery once you have a custom CWM kernel flashed, so as long as you do that you should be good to go.
Anyway, I hope you got it working right by now. I just thought that was utterly hysterical when I read that part about whenever you google for PBJ kernel that it comes up with a lot of results about sandwiches. Hahaha, that's classic.
Tbh this guy if he can't handle this stuff he will eventually brick his phone and cry bloody murder. Their is an all in one which I don't know why you didn't flash that.......
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abrixxxx said:
Did you boot directly into recovery after putting your battery back in ? You can't boot into the OS before going straight to recovery from odin or else it overwrites the custom recovery with the samsung one.
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I bet this is the source of much of your frustration.
You need to go straight to recovery and flash a kernel - the stocker is putting the samsung recovery in place before you get to cwm...
Swyped...
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I do know that for a time we had to boot into the stock recovery, hit "update.zip," and then we'd reboot into CWM so at least at one time they did run side-by-side... but I honestly don't know if stock recovery is completely replaced now or if it just gets ignored.
Anyways, that was the official UKB/CR 2.0 ROM, but the ODIN file wasn't put together by TSM as it contains all the other components too. landshark68 packaged that up and his packages are all reliable.
As far as the kernel goes, the one included in what you flashed is a non-Voodoo PeanutButta Jelly Time kernel with a -50mv voltage reduction to help with battery life. That's a regular speed (1ghz) kernel.
Only The Brave (at first I thought it stood for Out of The Box too, go figure) is a more customizable kernel that can be both overclocked and voltage-reduced but starts out with neither.
I would recommend sticking with the PBJ kernels, personally, as they're actually good out of the box without having to play around with voltage controls manually.
The only reason you'd really want to switch kernels now is if you want to go to Voodoo... the PBJ kernel that ODIN file set you up with isn't.
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Gotcha, now a Voodoo kernel just has the lagfix and other Voodoo project items bundled into the kernel?
garywojdan81 said:
The key to making cwm permanent is replacing the stock kernel. You can odin anything you want but if you leave the stock kernel it will overwrite your recovery every time it boots. Any of these custom kernels that are packaged in ukb roms should have the proper cwm included, but it may not hurt to update the recovery as new ones become available.
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Gotcha, so now it's permanent (yay)
wilshyre said:
^^That's hysterical! Haha, I LOL'D when I saw that. I promise I'm not being an ass. PBJ stands for imnut's peanut butter jelly time kernel, and OTB stands for nemesis2all's Only The Brave kernel. If the package you flashed did not come with either one of those 2 custom kernels, you need to flash one. Either OTB 1.6 for Touchwiz based roms, or one of imnuts' PBJ kernels. Since I usually always use OTB, I'm more familiar with it and I know that it will permanently install CWM 3 for you upon installation and then you should no longer have any problems with stock recovery replacing your custom recovery. I'm pretty sure that PBJ does the same thing, but I dont know for sure as I havent used it. If you want full overclocking/undervolting abilities, you should probably flash OTB.. PBJ is not overclockable, I dont think, but again I could be wrong.. OTB gives you full control of voltage used for each frequency step available using the app "voltage control."
Oh, and voodoo, too. OTB kernels are all voodoo-enabled. Now you can run OTB kernels with voodoo disabled manually in recovery under the voodoo options, but with hiw good and reliable voodoo has become, and considering how much it speeds up your phone, im not really sure why anyone would use a galaxy s phone without voodoo or ext4 formatted partitions at least. But thats just me, as I realize some people prefer standard non-voodoo kernels.
To sum it up, I know for fact that using OTB kernels will replace stock recovery with CWM3 voodoo-enabled recovery, and you wont have it reflashing stock recovery like stock kernels do (which is the reason for the problems you were having).. PBJ might do the same thing, but im not sure because they're not voodoo kernels so I don't know if the PBJ kernels actually replace/update your recovery partition like OTB does. Either way, PBJ will not reflash stock recovery once you have a custom CWM kernel flashed, so as long as you do that you should be good to go.
Anyway, I hope you got it working right by now. I just thought that was utterly hysterical when I read that part about whenever you google for PBJ kernel that it comes up with a lot of results about sandwiches. Hahaha, that's classic.
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Yeah, I think in PBJ it's set in stone, because there's different PBJ UKB ROM's with +/- voltages, so I'm guessing it's a packaged thing that's compiled into the ROM.
I believe I saw Voodoo in CWM on this Kernel. Guess it's just the OEM version with whatever PBJ fixes, and Voodoo packed into it.
Maybe at some point I'll try OTB, it definitely seems like a nice touch to be able to adjust your clock on the fly. Though I wonder if there was a particular reason why UKB only offered PBJ kernels and no OTB ones :-\.
tonu42 said:
Tbh this guy if he can't handle this stuff he will eventually brick his phone and cry bloody murder. Their is an all in one which I don't know why you didn't flash that.......
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Bite me.
I was "into the rooting game" for like 4 hours before making that post.
It's hard to just "pick up" random tid-bits of information from forum threads - because everybody uses TLA's and if you're new to it, you don't know what all those TLA's mean.
So while it's possible that I brick my phone at some point, that's a risk I'm taking, so in other words I should PM your ass in like a year when my contract is up and I get a new phone and tell it to stick it up your ass sideways.
AND, if you read (which you didn't), you'll see I already flashed the all in one and am running 2.1 perfectly stable now. Why did I not flash the all in one? I didn't know about the all in one. If I had, I probably would have done that a long time ago.
If you're not the one doing the hacking on the ROMs then 80% of the battle of "rooting/hacking android phones" is simply the act of knowing what's out there, different patches, compilations, images made by different people, issues, successes, etc. between different packages. So if you're like me, and busy, and can't always afford to read the latest and greatest, it puts you as a disadvantage.
So in short, shove it.
M00NEY said:
I bet this is the source of much of your frustration.
You need to go straight to recovery and flash a kernel - the stocker is putting the samsung recovery in place before you get to cwm...
Swyped...
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Yeah, go figure . Didn't think the OS booting re-wrote the recovery partition/sector on boot, from an OS perspective, that's just weird.
So I just rooted my wife's phone and froze as many apps as I could without glitching the system out with TB. The phone was super laggy from the box but now it seems better but she said today that it froze on her a couple times. I come from a Droid X with GB 2.3 rooted and it's pretty fast for me. Even when it was stock it was quick. I'm not sure what else to do. Since it's my wife's I would rather leave it as close to stock as possible. Any suggestions.
Also is there a list of apps that can be froze in TB without causing other issues. It may be possible I froze one to many.
Thanks for your time.
Terry
Divey1130 said:
So I just rooted my wife's phone and froze as many apps as I could without glitching the system out with TB. The phone was super laggy from the box but now it seems better but she said today that it froze on her a couple times. I come from a Droid X with GB 2.3 rooted and it's pretty fast for me. Even when it was stock it was quick. I'm not sure what else to do. Since it's my wife's I would rather leave it as close to stock as possible. Any suggestions.
Also is there a list of apps that can be froze in TB without causing other issues. It may be possible I froze one to many.
Thanks for your time.
Terry
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I would suggest you follow this link here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380
Download and flash one of the "DEBLOATED/DEODEXED"
These types of ROM's are completely stock just with all of the crap removed (bing and the VZW bloatware)
Shark has the thread updated to the 12th of June so they should be up-to-date.
Cheers
gkirby11 said:
I would suggest you follow this link here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380
Download and flash one of the "DEBLOATED/DEODEXED"
These types of ROM's are completely stock just with all of the crap removed (bing and the VZW bloatware)
Shark has the thread updated to the 12th of June so they should be up-to-date.
Cheers
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I read over it all and my wife's phone is ED04 which is not in his list. I think this is exactly what I am looking for. I understand most of it except the modem stuff. There are so many numbers and versions to use. This is so different than my droid x. If I would have started with her phone first, I probably would have never attempted to mod it. Anyways what should I do now? Would it be better to flash a rom that's not stco but stable and fast. Just for giggles I did a quadrant test on hers and mine. She barely broke 900 while mine is over 1900. Seems like a huge difference being both are 1g processors.
Thanks for the help.
Terry
Barely breaking 900 is normal if you are not using a voodoo enabled kernel. The rfs partition is what is the biggest bottleneck. If you truly want a snappy rom, jump to comrom or evil fascinate. I use both equally and both will give you the speed you are wishing to match from your dx. As for modems, your wife's modem is compatible with either rom I mentioned.
For now I would suggest keeping her phone froyo based as gb is still being worked on by our awesome devs, but isn't for the faint at heart just yet IMHO
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Barely breaking 900 is normal if you are not using a voodoo enabled kernel. The rfs partition is what is the biggest bottleneck. If you truly want a snappy rom, jump to comrom or evil fascinate. I use both equally and both will give you the speed you are wishing to match from your dx. As for modems, your wife's modem is compatible with either rom I mentioned.
For now I would suggest keeping her phone froyo based as gb is still being worked on by our awesome devs, but isn't for the faint at heart just yet IMHO
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Perfect, exactly what's needed. So do I follow these steps even tho is says from ED01.
Install Instructions:
If you are coming from a stock ED01 non rooted build follow these instructions:
Download Evil Fascination and place it on your SD card
Download Odin: http://www.mediafire.com/?msnc375idu7xhqt
Download Recovery: http://www.mediafire.com/?pfuhk4ibn9uore3
Install Samsung Drivers for your pc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238
Remove battery from the phone
Connect the phone up through USB and hold volume down during the connection
Your phone will be in download mode
Open up Odin and click on the pda button and select the recovery file
Click Start on Odin - phone will reset when flashed
Hold volume up and down and insert battery back into the phone and boot it up. Hold volume up and down while it boots up and it will boot into CWM recovery. If it has boot up to the startup animation you will need to start over and reflash recovery through odin
When you are in CWM recovery continue with the instructions below.
If so I'm ready to flash it.
Thanks
Terry
Yeah that looks good. Just use Odin (pda button) to flash your recovery. (Ensure you are using the PDA button. Cannot emphasize that enough)
Then follow the steps outlines. You're good to go.
Dalamar1320 said:
Yeah that looks good. Just use Odin (pda button) to flash your recovery. (Ensure you are using the PDA button. Cannot emphasize that enough)
Then follow the steps outlines. You're good to go.
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Thanks a million. Will update after flash.
Terry
Just to make sure since there are a million different downloads is this the right one to download. (highlighted in red is the one)
CR 2.0
These versions will wipe your data, so make sure you back it up
This version contains the EC01 modem/radio and imnut's 05/31 PBJ -50mv nonvoodoo kernel
This version contains no modem/radio and imnuts' 05/31 PBJ -50mv nonvoodoo kernel
So this one would be without the kernel which is the modem/radio.
Then I do this patch for 2.1
Com Rom (froyo) 2.1 (patch, must flash on top of 2.0, no need to wipe):
md5: 725f94fa1cad7e562a767cd61ecd590b
And then this theme.
[THEME] Crysis Revolution v4.0 *Community ROM 2.1!* *6.20.11*
Is this all correct and in the right order. I want to 100% sure before I do this. Man is it so much different than flashing my DX.
Thanks
Terry
Divey1130 said:
Just to make sure since there are a million different downloads is this the right one to download. (highlighted in red is the one)
CR 2.0
These versions will wipe your data, so make sure you back it up
This version contains the EC01 modem/radio and imnut's 05/31 PBJ -50mv nonvoodoo kernel
This version contains no modem/radio and imnuts' 05/31 PBJ -50mv nonvoodoo kernel
So this one would be without the kernel which is the modem/radio.
Then I do this patch for 2.1
Com Rom (froyo) 2.1 (patch, must flash on top of 2.0, no need to wipe):
md5: 725f94fa1cad7e562a767cd61ecd590b
And then this theme.
[THEME] Crysis Revolution v4.0 *Community ROM 2.1!* *6.20.11*
Is this all correct and in the right order. I want to 100% sure before I do this. Man is it so much different than flashing my DX.
Thanks
Terry
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this looks fine, no need to worry about the radio I believe it will use the one from whatever baseband you're at before you flash (ED04 I believe you said) or you can flash the one with ED01 radio... yes ComRom with imnuts' PBJ kernel is good, I would suggest the voodoo kernel one but its up to you, patch on top of that then theme after and you should be set
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As anoninja said. You should be good to go. Thing to keep in mind is that it is very difficult to brick your fascinate. Not impassible. But difficult. As long as you stay with fascinate files, never try captivate, vibrant, i9000, etc, stuff, then worse case scenario, you may have to odin back to stock and try again, but even that's unlikely. Good luck. Keep us posted with your progress
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Hey thanks guys, feels better knowing it's not so easy to screw my phone up. I read a little about voodoo before work and yes, I do want to have it. So the majic question is, which one.
Thanks
Terry
Well if you choose evil fascination with the kernel, I think out will automatically convert you to voodoo so no extra steps other then to wait for the conversion after it boots.
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After doing some more research I have decided to go with Com Rom 2.0 then patched to 2.1.
I am going to go with this one:
*Fixed* UKB 2.0 with -50 PBJ Voodoo Kernel ***6.4.11 (script fixed)
md5: 1092A4F02F668521D633670A80BA127C
My wife doesn't like the all black theme on the evil rom. Now I am still a little confused on the kernel thing. I have been reading for awhile now and will continue to do so. I'm not understanding if I have to flash the kernel first or rom first. I have been through the fascinate development thread over and over and while most put "how to's" in them, I still don't understand in which order things should go. There is so much to do just to flash a rom on this phone. But I know I will get it done even if I have to start over from fresh. So many roms, kernels, updates, 2.2.3.4.6._______, etc, etc...... What exactly is a kernel? I come from the droid x back ground where we root, cwr, then flash. That's it. Also to me Odin seems to be a 3rd party app that's needed to flash CWR. Other than that is there any other use for it. Sorry for all the ?'s but I like to do my homework before I do something like this. I am a pretty good self learner but the way things are worded for the phone is a little confusing at times. Maybe a step by step list if starting fresh.
EX- 1-root
2-odin
3-cwr
4-kernel or rom or both
Something like that would be easier to understand. Anyways I always appreciate any help I get.
Thanks
Terry
Divey1130 said:
After doing some more research I have decided to go with Com Rom 2.0 then patched to 2.1.
I am going to go with this one:
*Fixed* UKB 2.0 with -50 PBJ Voodoo Kernel ***6.4.11 (script fixed)
md5: 1092A4F02F668521D633670A80BA127C
My wife doesn't like the all black theme on the evil rom. Now I am still a little confused on the kernel thing. I have been reading for awhile now and will continue to do so. I'm not understanding if I have to flash the kernel first or rom first. I have been through the fascinate development thread over and over and while most put "how to's" in them, I still don't understand in which order things should go. There is so much to do just to flash a rom on this phone. But I know I will get it done even if I have to start over from fresh. So many roms, kernels, updates, 2.2.3.4.6._______, etc, etc...... What exactly is a kernel? I come from the droid x back ground where we root, cwr, then flash. That's it. Also to me Odin seems to be a 3rd party app that's needed to flash CWR. Other than that is there any other use for it. Sorry for all the ?'s but I like to do my homework before I do something like this. I am a pretty good self learner but the way things are worded for the phone is a little confusing at times. Maybe a step by step list if starting fresh.
EX- 1-root
2-odin
3-cwr
4-kernel or rom or both
Something like that would be easier to understand. Anyways I always appreciate any help I get.
Thanks
Terry
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yes odin is a 3rd party program used to push installs, and most roms nowadays will root you and install kernel (most come with it built in unless otherwise specified) when you flash them so no worries about rooting or kernels... a little about voodoo here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043673&highlight=voodoo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039897&highlight=voodoo
and you can read about what all these 'roms', 'radios' and 'kernels' are here (i wouldn't get any downloads from here as this is old):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...XcM268FoIzk/edit?hl=en&authkey=CKqWypcP&pli=1
I'll try and make it simple, this is how I did it and had no problems:
1. obvious step, have all the driver, programs and packages you need ready to go: samsung drivers and odin on your pc, both ComRom 2.0 and 2.1 patch on sd card
2. assuming you're already on EB01 froyo baseband or higher, you wanna use odin to install CWR
3. from CWR make any backups you want then wipe data/cache/dalvik
4. flash .zip of rom you want (ComRom 2.0), select reboot phone once to ensure it took. Since you're flashing a voodoo kernel on first boot you should hear a robot lady saying she's formatting partitions, this may take a while but its normal
5. once it started up power phone off and boot again into CWR (or use power button menu to boot straight there with 'recovery' option)
6. flash .zip of ComRom patch, no wiping needed and select reboot phone
7. congrats you're rooted, voodoo'd and running ComRom 2.1
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anoninja118 said:
yes odin is a 3rd party program used to push installs, and most roms nowadays will root you and install kernel (most come with it built in unless otherwise specified) when you flash them so no worries about rooting or kernels... a little about voodoo here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043673&highlight=voodoo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039897&highlight=voodoo
and you can read about what all these 'roms', 'radios' and 'kernels' are here (i wouldn't get any downloads from here as this is old):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...XcM268FoIzk/edit?hl=en&authkey=CKqWypcP&pli=1
I'll try and make it simple, this is how I did it and had no problems:
1. obvious step, have all the driver, programs and packages you need ready to go: samsung drivers and odin on your pc, both ComRom 2.0 and 2.1 patch on sd card
2. assuming you're already on EB01 froyo baseband or higher, you wanna use odin to install CWR
3. from CWR make any backups you want then wipe data/cache/dalvik
4. flash .zip of rom you want (ComRom 2.0), select reboot phone once to ensure it took. Since you're flashing a voodoo kernel on first boot you should hear a robot lady saying she's formatting partitions, this may take a while but its normal
5. once it started up power phone off and boot again into CWR (or use power button menu to boot straight there with 'recovery' option)
6. flash .zip of ComRom patch, no wiping needed and select reboot phone
7. congrats you're rooted, voodoo'd and running ComRom 2.1
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You are the shiz nik. Perfectly worded and the timing couldn't have been better. Phone has both files ready to go. I found some more literature on kernels and now understand what it does. Pretty much controls performance of the phone. And I see roms with and without kernels. For my first time with this phone I will go with a kernel/rom. The radio is stock ED04 which I will leave stock. Will update after I finish all of this. My wife will be stoked now that her phone will run smoothly. Thanks for the detailed explanation for me.
Terry
Divey1130 said:
You are the shiz nik. Perfectly worded and the timing couldn't have been better. Phone has both files ready to go. I found some more literature on kernels and now understand what it does. Pretty much controls performance of the phone. And I see roms with and without kernels. For my first time with this phone I will go with a kernel/rom. The radio is stock ED04 which I will leave stock. Will update after I finish all of this. My wife will be stoked now that her phone will run smoothly. Thanks for the detailed explanation for me.
Terry
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no problem, good luck
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I just wanted to thank all of you that helped me here. Running Com Rom 2.0 w/2.1 patch. It's nite and day compared to how the phone was. So much smoother and no lags as of yet. My wife couldn't be happier now with the phone working like it should be. I did encounter one issue tho. I could not create a backup. It would read an error message. (forgot what it said) Anyways thanks a million for the help. The crt animation is awesome and I love the functions when powering off. Rebooting instead of powering off then on and especially booting into recovery without pushing the volume rocker. Well I am going to add a theme for her so richen it up and go from there.
Just got it to backup as I was typing this. After reading thread after thread it seemed like you either had to flash a kernel other than stock or flash a rom before it would back up. I even tried red, blue, and purple with no luck. Oh well at least now it's backed up.
Terry
Divey1130 said:
I just wanted to thank all of you that helped me here. Running Com Rom 2.0 w/2.1 patch. It's nite and day compared to how the phone was. So much smoother and no lags as of yet. My wife couldn't be happier now with the phone working like it should be. I did encounter one issue tho. I could not create a backup. It would read an error message. (forgot what it said) Anyways thanks a million for the help. The crt animation is awesome and I love the functions when powering off. Rebooting instead of powering off then on and especially booting into recovery without pushing the volume rocker. Well I am going to add a theme for her so richen it up and go from there.
Just got it to backup as I was typing this. After reading thread after thread it seemed like you either had to flash a kernel other than stock or flash a rom before it would back up. I even tried red, blue, and purple with no luck. Oh well at least now it's backed up.
Terry
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sucks about the backup, the voodoo lagfix CWR versions are known to have problems with this and unfortunately I forgot to mention this, I tend to not do nandroid backups since I don't keep much on my phone in terms of data and apps, being the flashaholic that I am lol anyway good that you got it up and running, its good stuff and a million times better than stock
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