[Q] Disappearing device storage memory - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have just installed a cab to my device and realised when it gave me the option of Device or Storage Card that the available space on my device has mysteriously dropped by around 13Mb and I haven't installed or moved anything since I last checked the available space! I have had a look through the device folders to see if anything has been creating large caches but can't see anything obvious. I have used Clear Temp to delete anything temporary but that only freed up 536k so nothing there. Does anyone have any suggestions what might be causing this or where I might look?

album cache.
opera cache.
Google Maps cache.
etc etc etc

lude219 said:
album cache.
opera cache.
Google Maps cache.
etc etc etc
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All cleared with Clear Temp (anyway, I haven't used any of these during the time in question)

With my HD2 I found I would continually run out of space. The culprit turned out to be the Opera Downloads directory (/windows/opera/profiles/download).
If the main space on the device is filling up and you're mainly mainly using your browser and you've already done stuff like moved your Album photos to the storage card then this could be the culprit.
I mention that because although Opera showed no files in the Downloads directory via Opera settings, when I actually inspected the directory there was about 80mb of files in there (I should also note that ClearTemp which I installed to fix the problem didn't identify this either).
Deleted the files and moved both the Opera cache and the Opera downloads to the storage card via the opera:config settings and I no longer have a problem with the main storage space filling up.
The other thing that did make a difference was specifying in the mail app that attachments should be stored on the storage card as well.

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[Q]Moving the HTC Album cache to storage card?

After finding out my internal storage available space was getting low much faster than it should, I deleted the cache from google maps, opera (and moved its location to the storage card), but I can't find a way to move the cache from the HTC Album.
It takes around 30Mb on my device, and if I delete it, it'll just get back to that size in a few days.
I know I can just delete it every time it's too big, but I'm guessing it makes the albums loading faster, so if it's possible, I'd prefer not to delete it, but to move it to the storage card instead.
Is it possible to change the default location of the cache?
Thanks
This would be good, I too ended up wondering where all my space had gone only to find the HTC ALBUM cache folder taking up 20MB
Ditto^^
I find it strange because this would ultimately lead to a completely occupied memory over time (given you take enough pictures). You'd think they thought about that...
I can't seem to find anything about this, and after looking at the registry, I didn't find any key that seems to control this either.
Is there so few people bothered by this?
i am as bothered as you (and running with very few storage left), and wait for a solution. Putting the cache not on the storage card was quite dumb from HTC given the very limited storage. Unfortunately, I am a solution leecher, not a seeder.
Mithrandir007 said:
After finding out my internal storage available space was getting low much faster than it should, I deleted the cache from google maps, opera (and moved its location to the storage card), but I can't find a way to move the cache from the HTC Album.
It takes around 30Mb on my device, and if I delete it, it'll just get back to that size in a few days.
I know I can just delete it every time it's too big, but I'm guessing it makes the albums loading faster, so if it's possible, I'd prefer not to delete it, but to move it to the storage card instead.
Is it possible to change the default location of the cache?
Thanks
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Sorry, probably a noob question but how did you do it for Opera ?
Thanks in advance
It's in the camera settings. Start the camera; select the strange box on the bottom left with an arrow on the side; hit the "settings" wheel - looks like a cart wheel; then you should have a big box in the middle of the screen with settings options; now select the lower left hand box labelled "storage". When you have the "storage" option with the picture of a SD card then that's where the photos will go.
Cheesy Dave said:
It's in the camera settings. Start the camera; select the strange box on the bottom left with an arrow on the side; hit the "settings" wheel - looks like a cart wheel; then you should have a big box in the middle of the screen with settings options; now select the lower left hand box labelled "storage". When you have the "storage" option with the picture of a SD card then that's where the photos will go.
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That's not the album cache - that's the camera storage location
alexd83 said:
Sorry, probably a noob question but how did you do it for Opera ?
Thanks in advance
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For Opera, it's not too hard.
Open Opera, and type "opera:config" in the address bar.
You'll then be in the config page, find the section "User Prefs".
In there, you should find something called "Cache Directory4". Just change that path to any directory in your storage card (for example : "\Storage Card\OperaCache").
Cheesy Dave : Thanks for the answer, but as johncmolyneux said, it's the cache I'd like to move to the storage card (which contains the thumbnails of your images along with other information).
The pictures are already going to the storage card.
Thanks for the reply !
Hi, whoops - sorry I misunderstood the question. Now where is the cache kept ?
I did think the question was simple; but, I thought it might help to explain the settings in the camera.
Confession: I've no idea where the cache is kept. Must explore ...
It's kept in \Application Data\HTC\HTC Album\Cache\ in the internal storage.
Mithrandir007 said:
It's kept in \Application Data\HTC\HTC Album\Cache\ in the internal storage.
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And how to change it so it goes to another direction?
Filipek88 said:
And how to change it so it goes to another direction?
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OMG.................................... wasn't that the question of this thread???
mouki_9 said:
OMG.................................... wasn't that the question of this thread???
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LoL
A bit off topic; but the same cache problem applies to the google maps and youtube applications. Offcourse we could always empty the cachefolders manually now and then, but I would still like some kind of tweak to solve this problem.
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I wish I knew
Concerning Youtube I don't know how to do it, but for Google Maps, if you get a new version of Google Maps and chose to install it on the storage card, it will put the cache on the storage card as well.
this came to my attention last night when my phone totally ran out of storage when i wasn't actually storing anything on it. i had about 50 mp3's and 10 pictures but all on the storage card. as i didn't know what to do i reverted to clearing the storage which essentially reset it.
i cant believe this problem isn't topping the forum its a massive issue for me. i monitored the storage during a web browsing session this morning. i lost about 10meg of storage in 20 mins and this wasn't cleared when i ended the session. what i dont understand is opera is set to have a 4 meg cache limit. even if someone works out how to transfer all the cache files to the sd card it wont really help as it will eventually fill that up. is i did very little with my phone in the 1st week of owning it other than surf im fairly sure it must have nearly all been browser cache. 130mb of it1! so in fairly sure it will just keep munching and munching storage.
i now have a very tough decision to make i love this phone but i have 24 hours to send it back to o2 and swap it for something else. whats everyones opinions is this likely to get fixed and how long will it take? or should i give up and get an isheep?
Surely htc could just add an option in settings to empty all cache, or auto empty
@jimsteach
A few posts back up this thread there are instructions for moving the Opera cache to the SD Card - it's pretty much an essential in my book given the storage situation on the device.
I too have trawled the registry trying to find where the Album cache is set, but it looks like HTC have modified the architecture and/or use of the registry in building Sense. I'd also love to be able to move mail to the SD Card, but the normal tweak doesn't work for that either.
The location of album cache seems to be hardcoded in HTCAlbum.exe. The Unicode string "\Application Data\HTC\HTC ALBUM\Cache" occurs 7 times when searching in the file with a hex editor. This weekend I will try to modify HTCAlbum.exe and insert a location to storage card.
What puzzles me most is the size album cache can grow to, it seems almost unlimited. I mean, I have never seen any complaints with other devices. The only reg key I found is "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCAlbum:cache_serial". Does anyone know what this does?
And another key: "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory\FATFS:EnableCache"
Anyone?

Phone storage full

Hello!
Well the day came, my phone storage is full. Now I'm asking for some tips on how to free some memory. I tried to install all I could to SD but for example Fpesece didn't work until installed to device. It seems that Windows folder takes most of the memory so is there something not needed by the systems. I have deleted all the wallpapers and music and old opera version exe and everything remotely useless. I now have 22MB free out of 175MB. How much free space is needed for system to run smoothly, Youtube stopped working when I had less then 10MB free.
And I haven't installed all that much programs to device, some minor tweaks and Fpesece so it makes this even harder to understand where the free space has gone. And the obvious, all my mails, txt and so on goes to SD and I have been using the phone for 5 months already.
Appreciate all help!
Download "sktools" or "pocket mechanic", something like that anyway and run the cleanup option, that should give you some breathing room.
I usually only have around 50mb free after the weekly cleanup.....
Lurittelija said:
Hello!
Well the day came, my phone storage is full. Now I'm asking for some tips on how to free some memory. I tried to install all I could to SD but for example Fpesece didn't work until installed to device. It seems that Windows folder takes most of the memory so is there something not needed by the systems. I have deleted all the wallpapers and music and old opera version exe and everything remotely useless. I now have 22MB free out of 175MB. How much free space is needed for system to run smoothly, Youtube stopped working when I had less then 10MB free.
And I haven't installed all that much programs to device, some minor tweaks and Fpesece so it makes this even harder to understand where the free space has gone. And the obvious, all my mails, txt and so on goes to SD and I have been using the phone for 5 months already.
Appreciate all help!
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With my HD2 I found I would continually run out of space. The culprit turned out to be the Opera Downloads directory (/windows/opera/profiles/download).
I mention that because although Opera showed no files in the Downloads directory via Opera settings, when I actually inspected the directory there was about 80mb of files in there.
Deleted the files and moved both the Opera cache and the Opera downloads to the storage card via the opera:config settings and I no longer have a problem with the main storage space filling up.
The other thing that did make a difference was specifying in the mail app that attachments should be stored on the storage card as well.
also googlemaps cache.thats the biggest culprit....install gmaps on sd card and remove the files on device memory

Memory full issues

My niece is having issues with her Amaze 4G. The application memory is full (the 2Gb partition) is full, but after reviewing the list of apps in Manage Applications, there isn't 2 Gb's worth. All apps have the Move to SD button grayed out. I am unsure how to move items over to the other internal partition (10Gb). Please advise, and thank you.
any ideas??
some games have a big package that downloads with them and i dont think it shows in the apps size.
doesnt sound like you have a external sd so you should probly get one
maybe some more details would help
There is a 32gb sd card in the phone, and the 10 gb internal memory partition is empty. I've also put Apps2SD on the phone but it only recommended to move 4 apps, each of which were less than 1mb. In the Manage Apps list the largest app was Facebook at 50mb, with a series of others dropping in size quickly after that. It seems to me that the phone has been saving all app data to the 2gb parition but I can't see it in ES File Explorer to manage.
Also what common apps can typically be moved to the SD card?
Thanks!
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jcicora said:
There is a 32gb sd card in the phone, and the 10 gb internal memory partition is empty. I've also put Apps2SD on the phone but it only recommended to move 4 apps, each of which were less than 1mb. In the Manage Apps list the largest app was Facebook at 50mb, with a series of others dropping in size quickly after that. It seems to me that the phone has been saving all app data to the 2gb parition but I can't see it in ES File Explorer to manage.
Also what common apps can typically be moved to the SD card?
Thanks!
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using XDA
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50 mb for facebook is huge. try getting a cache cleaner and movetosd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm1vYmkuaW5mb2xpZmUuY2FjaGUiXQ..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5jdXJ2ZWZpc2guYXBwcy5tb3ZldG9zZCJd
mrmako777 said:
50 mb for facebook is huge. try getting a cache cleaner and movetosd
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Sorry forgot to mention that I installed ES Task Manager and cleared the cache for all the apps. The 50mb is all app & data. Is Move2SD different than Apps2SD?
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My fb is only 25
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Download superbox in Google play and from there can move files over easily to the SD. It will auto generate which files you can move.
Has a nice battery widget as well.
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I'm having the same issue with my Amaze, I don't have an SD Card yet, I can't up date my applications!
davidktk said:
I'm having the same issue with my Amaze, I don't have an SD Card yet, I can't up date my applications!
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I believe the problem you guy are having might be related to a full cache...use a file explorer to check /cache and see if there any files in there. If you see a bunch of apk's in there, that's your issue. You can delete them all no worries, but dont delete any folders
How do you use a file explorer? Thanks.
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How do you use a file explorer? Thanks.
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download es file explorer or astro
Downloaded that application and no apk files there it's getting annoying because I have a load of applications to update.
What I would do is move all the apps back to the phone and save any files that are needed/wanted to the pc. Then go and clear phones internal sd card. Then move everything back.
Chuck Norris CAN touch MC Hammer!
Double0EK said:
What I would do is move all the apps back to the phone and save any files that are needed/wanted to the pc. Then go and clear phones internal sd card. Then move everything back.
Chuck Norris CAN touch MC Hammer!
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I don't have an sd card!
The phone comes with an INTERNAL sdcard. That's where moving applications to sdcard goes to.
Go to Settings> Applications > Manage Applications then go to each app and move it back to the phone if it gives that option. When you're done connect the phone to the pc and transfer any wanted files to the pc....this is called backing up your sdcard. When you're done with that then go to Settings > Storage and pick Erase Phone Storage. It will erase everything on the phones INTERNAL sdcard. That's why we backed everything up.
Now first thing you should do is move your apps back to the INTERNAL sdcard. So go to Settings > Storage >Make More Space and you can mass move any of the apps that you wish to move back to the phones INTERNAL sdcard. When that's done you can opt to move the files you saved on the pc back to the phones Internal sdcard.
You should also have your niece or her parents invest in an sdcard to put into the sdcard slot. So any pictures or music should be saved on that instead of using the phones internal sdcard. I would suggest a SanDisk 8gb or bigger with at least a Class 4 rating.
Chuck Norris can but Walker Texas Ranger can't.
I'm having the same issue. When I go to update apps from Google Play, I get an "Insufficient Storage Available" error.
Astro doens't show anything in /cache, but I have a feeling that's due to it not having global read access. The 2.5GB partition only has ~200MB free. I started with tons of apps installed, and I've had to start moving them off to SD or uninstalling to free up enough space to update the apps I really care about. The thing is, the size total for apps shown in the settings menu is constantly droping, but the total free space always ends up back around ~200MB. It's almost as if some app on the phone is filling up a cache or log file and isn't cleaning up after itself.
What folders in root comprise the 2.5GB partition? I'd like to see if I can determine where all the space is going. I've had an open ticket with HTC on this issue, and their solution is to factory reset. They're supposed to call me tomorrow night to work through this (I know how to factory reset, just want to hear what they say). I don't want to factory reset until I figure out why I'm running out of space as I figure I'll just end up in this same situation again.
It's very strange that many people are having this problem with the stock rom. Have you guys checked the available storage space by going in to the setting/storage? You should see 'Internal Storage' on the top. Do you have more than 50mb free? Theoretically, 50mb should be enough to update most apps through the Market (Play Store). Did you clear cache using the 'Make more space' option? What happened when you did it?
If you have enough space, yet cannot update apps, you probably have junk files sitting in some other partitions that are not included in 'available storage' calculations. If that's the case, then moving apps to sd card won't fix the problem. If your phone is rooted, it would be a lot easier to diagnose the issue and correct it. Without root, I can only think of one option; factory reset will probably fix the problem.
By the way, if you have to factory reset and loose the existing data anyway, you might want to use the opportunity to unlock the bootloder and root it at the same time.
I got two times the memory full message with Android 4.0 even there was enough space. After reboot it disappeared.
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oryan_dunn said:
I'm having the same issue. When I go to update apps from Google Play, I get an "Insufficient Storage Available" error.
Astro doens't show anything in /cache, but I have a feeling that's due to it not having global read access. The 2.5GB partition only has ~200MB free. I started with tons of apps installed, and I've had to start moving them off to SD or uninstalling to free up enough space to update the apps I really care about. The thing is, the size total for apps shown in the settings menu is constantly droping, but the total free space always ends up back around ~200MB. It's almost as if some app on the phone is filling up a cache or log file and isn't cleaning up after itself.
What folders in root comprise the 2.5GB partition? I'd like to see if I can determine where all the space is going. I've had an open ticket with HTC on this issue, and their solution is to factory reset. They're supposed to call me tomorrow night to work through this (I know how to factory reset, just want to hear what they say). I don't want to factory reset until I figure out why I'm running out of space as I figure I'll just end up in this same situation again.
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Without root, you won't be able to see much using Astro (or any file manager) because of the read restrictions on many directories. I believe you are correct about the system not cleaning up junk files. And unfortunately, they won't be accessible without root unless HTC included such an utility program to clean it in the stock rom. I doubt it, though, because their 'make space' process only gives you the option to clear cache and delete/move apps.
I know factory reset is not pleasant if you have lots of app data you want to keep. Time to root, maybe?
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Fazettit said:
I got two times the memory full message with Android 4.0 even there was enough space. After reboot it disappeared.
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One S? Are you in the wrong forum?
Anyway, what were you doing when you got the error message? Downloading something? ICS may have a better cleanup routine than GB built in so that rebooting would solve the problem... Or you haven't used your device long enough to accumulate junks.

Memory Issues

If you're having issues with memory, and you know you have more memory than displayed; check one of these places.
DCIM: picture storage, but it will sometimes cache EVERY .jpg file on your device. A couple of reboots will usually do away with this.
com.cooliris.media: this is also a cache for pics and data of some sort. Take a look at this and erase the cache. It stores your photo or video meta info, unencrypted. It had 333 MB of my memory and info stored. *chunk_0* is where your data is stored unencrypted.
LOST.DIR: I just had 2.4 GB wind up in here. Spent an hour looking for the culprit and finally found it by using Storage Analyser from the Play Store.
This isn't normal cache, this is huge chunks of data being placed in these areas.
If I find any more unusual spots that suck up memory, and the cause, I'll try and add it here.
**ALWAYS double check before randomly erasing stuff**
Yeah, this is why I use a cache cleaner (All-In-One Toolbox).
Cache cleaners won't clear out LOST.DIR or chunk_0.
Sorry, I meant an SD card cleaner.

How do you overcome the 16GB storage limit?

After using the phone for a while, even if you don't install lots of apps, the 16GB internal storage area will eventually get full. Facebook, chrome, twitter etc develop large caches on the device. The thumbnail file balloons to several GBs. Even if you have a microSD, Google these days limit portability to the microSD. There are some workarounds. I use an app called Link2SD. I have created a 2nd partition on my microSD card, and use this app to move app data and cache files to this storage area.
How do you cope with the 16GB storage limit? How do you move apps and/or app data to the microSD card?
szaim said:
After using the phone for a while, even if you don't install lots of apps, the 16GB internal storage area will eventually get full. Facebook, chrome, twitter etc develop large caches on the device. The thumbnail file balloons to several GBs. Even if you have a microSD, Google these days limit portability to the microSD. There are some workarounds. I use an app called Link2SD. I have created a 2nd partition on my microSD card, and use this app to move app data and cache files to this storage area.
How do you cope with the 16GB storage limit? How do you move apps and/or app data to the microSD card?
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Root
And use folder mount. But the ultra does seem to collect a lot of a cache I've noticed over the years. I just clear it. Not to mention es file explorer has a recycling bin which is a nightmare.
I don't use the phone storage expect for Google everything else I run on my SD card.
Link2SD sucks its all complicated folder mount gets right to the point. Plus I use CyanogenMod so out of the box my phone only uses like 700mb
i remember on my desire hd on og the devs made a way to make the phone think that sd card was iternal memory so in other words i had 32gb internal also did this on my samsung tablet too
I have never filled up the internal storage completely. I have a 64GB SD which I use to store some of my music on, and all wallpapers and photos are moved to the SD. The only things I have on the internal storage are apps, and non of them manages to balloon the cache up to several gigs. Chrome has a cache limit of 200 MB, Reddit Sync has an option to clear the cache every day/every time I close it etc, so the things that takes up the most space are games. Those aren't causing any issues either since I only have 2 or 3 games installed at all times. When I'm done with them, I uninstall them. The stock ROM also has "App to SD" (which I don't use, but it's there). So all in all, I don't have to overcome any limits.
I can see how it's an issue if you insist in having 600 apps installed at all times, but then it's not the hardware's fault, but the user that's incredibly messy and stupid.
I use Obb on SD (Xposed) for games such as the GTA series and have a task for cleaning the Album cache with Tasker every day (that app tend to build huge cache files, I have experienced 1 GB....) and I am also careful to move downloaded stuff to the microSD card.
I also clean the cache regularly under storage and is usually with 2 GB free on the internal disk.
It is handy to set up Tasker to do regular cleaning of cache folders for those apps who tend to create big caches as well. When decent Marshmallow ROMs are out, my plan is to format my microSD card as "internal storage" (ext4 per the new feature introduced) which will make everything more seamless.

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