[Q] X10 2.1 vs others - XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Okay since a lot of you have played with other handsets running Android 2.1, now that the X10 is running on 2.1 how does it compare to other devices on 2.1 according to you?
I mean going by the benchmarks, even though its amongst the oldest phones amongst the flagships of different brands it holds pretty well against newer competition by scoring higher than Desire/Nexus 1 on 2.1 and almost near as much as the Galaxy S.
Whats your take?

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it holds pretty well against newer competition by scoring higher than Desire/Nexus 1 on 2.1 and almost near as much as the Galaxy S.
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What? Galaxy S with 2.1 scores over 800 in Quadrant and X10 with 2.1 is more like 550. I dont know what Nexus One got, but it has 2.2 now (and scores over 1000) so who cares, lol.
I bought my X10 with hopes that the negative points would be fixed by 2.1, but they havent. We pay for the sexy screen with battery life and performance is still a let down, speed improvement from 1.6 is minimal but 2.1 is more compatible with new apps.
Im currently using my X10 on a holiday and making good use of the camera, but after that i will get a nexus one - or wait until the 2GHz CPU/1GB RAM models start coming out. If android continues to become more efficient, and if new models have HDMI out, it would make a desktop replacement for me
oh - and i should state, i only bought a X10 for the camera, and although its probably the best on any phone, its not compariable to even a cheap digicam with there real lens'. Video recording is quite poor because of the motion blur, i hoped these things would improve with 2.1 but not significantly.

Siddy1200 said:
What? Galaxy S with 2.1 scores over 800 in Quadrant and X10 with 2.1 is more like 550. I dont know what Nexus One got, but it has 2.2 now (and scores over 1000) so who cares, lol.
I bought my X10 with hopes that the negative points would be fixed by 2.1, but they havent. We pay for the sexy screen with battery life and performance is still a let down, speed improvement from 1.6 is minimal but 2.1 is more compatible with new apps.
Im currently using my X10 on a holiday and making good use of the camera, but after that i will get a nexus one - or wait until the 2GHz CPU/1GB RAM models start coming out. If android continues to become more efficient, and if new models have HDMI out, it would make a desktop replacement for me
oh - and i should state, i only bought a X10 for the camera, and although its probably the best on any phone, its not compariable to even a cheap digicam with there real lens'. Video recording is quite poor because of the motion blur, i hoped these things would improve with 2.1 but not significantly.
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In the end, a cell phone cam is a cell phone cam regardless of the megapixels..
I never bought this phone for the 8mp, but I do wish they would stop marketting cell phone cams like this. people get too caught up in it.

I didnt buy it because i has 8.1MP branded on it, i bought it because i wanted an all-rounder, Phone, GPS, Camera, WI-FI, movie viewer, it was the positive reviews about the camera that influenced my final decision (was tossing up between Nexus One and X10) - and after using others i agree, it is the best screen and camera.
BUT - after i use it for its camera function, ill swap to something faster with longer battery life.

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HTC Hero vs Samsung I5700 Galaxy Spica

Hi everyone. I was sure I want to buy Hero, but then accidently found this Samsung. It's specs are quite impressive compared to HTC model (AMOLED, 8 GB, 800 Mhz proc).
I'm just curious why is it so cheap? I mean its specs are *almost* equal to HTC Legend, but the price is so low.
Any tips, opinions when choosing between these devices? Thanks in advace?
I have the i5700. It's not actually AMOLED, it's TFT. The i7500 was AMOLED but the screen is still brilliant. Using BenchmarkPi i got 8803 millisecconds, which is about 4000 less than the Hero. Snapdragons can do it in about 3500 though...
I prefer the design, it doesn't have Sense but it's not really a great loss. What is it really, a black status bar and a wheel at the bottom? Sure the clock/weather widget is cool but it's not a deal breaker. With 2.1 confirmed and rolled out in some countries it looks like a good choice, but depends on your usage, price and preferences.
It's cheap, because it's Samsung. No soft and no quality. Simple. From where you think the cheapness comes then? And instead of Hero better concider Legend or Desire. Hero is a bit old. Good phone nevertheless.
The phone has good specs but its a Samsung they make good TV's but when it comes to phones there build quality is poor next to HTC. I would say get the HTC Legend if you want a phone that will last. I own a HTC Hero and its the best phone I have ever had I say if you want Android go HTC you will not be disappointed .
There's nothing wrong with the build quality... certainly on par with the Hero. To be honest all the Hero offers over it is Sense as standard. The i5700 has a better camera, CPU, battery and lack of chin.
My sister has had Samsung phones in the past they have sucked ass they feel cheap I don't like the build quality of Samsung phones but if you can look past that it maybe a cheaper build then it would worth going for because of the specs. I also like the fact that it comes as a standard build of android but what version is it running?? if its 1.5 I wouldn't bother with it unless you can root it and change the firmware (ROM).
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My sister has had Samsung phones in the past they have sucked ass they feel cheap I don't like the build quality of Samsung phones but if you can look past that it maybe a cheaper build then it would worth going for because of the specs. I also like the fact that it comes as a standard build of android but what version is it running?? if its 1.5 I wouldn't bother with it unless you can root it and change the firmware (ROM).
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Samsung make cheap phones is not the same as Samsung phones are cheap. I'll say it again, the build quality of this is at least on par with the Hero. It's 1.5 at the moment, with an upgrade to 2.1 confirmed as imminemt and even out in some countries. I think it haa some light customization though.
i5700
Samsung doesn't make phones they make garbage, I have i5700 and it sucks in every aspect I do not have HTC hero but I have an iPhone and quality difference is more than 2000 SAR difference in price.
1. Audio playback quality SUCKS.
2. Touch screen is claimed to be capacitive but its seriously doesn't feel like, if I set it on a desktop and try to touch something it hardly works.
3. Software that comes with it doesn't even sync, had lots of trouble before it worked.
4. Buttons are hard to press and clunky.
5. Implementation of OS 1.5.1 was sucky so upgraded it to 2.1 and now its even worse.
6. I don't even believe it 800MHz because my iPhone 3GS is 600MHz and lighting fast this thing takes ages to do anything, I know OS different but I don't think it should be so much different.
7. Trying to use it as my primary phone over iPhone till the version 4.0 iPhone OS is out but trust me its hard, crashes, hangs (even before I updated to 2.1), email client always crashes for some reason.
8. Badly written sync software
9. Badly written drivers
10. Non existent manual.
I did compare it to hero while buying but hero was 600 SAR more expensive and slower with 1.6 Android with no chance of upgrade.
Go for something else in my opinion
8, 9, 10 - please, check you'r devices located @ /dev/hands and /dev/head
1. it's not objective rating
6- I thougth that after P4, athlon and c2d people would learn to not rate CPUs only by their clock speed... The Iphone 3GS has an ARM Cortex A8, that is close to 2 times faster clock for clock over an ARM 11. Memory bandwidth, GPU, etc could also have an impact in the perceived speed when using the phone.

[Q] X10a or Captivate?

Hey guys, Since ATT just got the X10 I was wondering which is better. My contract expires in a few days so I have some time to see which I like better. Right now I'm using an iPhone and hating it. I want something with android.
I love SE, I bought an original X1 right out of the gates, so I'm leaning a bit towards the X10 but I'm seeing that it might not have any additional benefit over the Captivate other than the awesome camera.
Help please? I travel a lot and will be going to college soon so I need a phone that will keep up with me, all day.
why not the EVO 4g? much better than both, but if you don't like that one go for the captivate
ATT is the best around here. We literally get full bars everywhere lol! Ok, so that's one for the Samsung...
If you're going to be using your phone outdoors a lot, get the X10. Samsung has the better screen, but it's OLED so when you're outside, it maybe really hard to see. But X10 screen is good as well. If you're concerned about aesthetics, I think X10 is the best looking phone there is, otherwise go for the Samsung.
The x10 is a great phone but if the captivate is anything like the galaxy s then i would go for the captivate.
i am also looking at the two phone and also iphone 4 when my contract is expiring.
Things I like about the sony is the physical call and off button. Also, I think the phone has higher res camera and also 2 camera.
I think captivative overall has a better hardware: 802.11n, larger storage space, better music playback software, bluetooth 3.0. android 2.1
I know sony will upgrade to android 2.1 or maybe 2.2 and samsung is coming out 2.2. So I think the software is not a major issue now.
hard to make a choice between the 3 phones.
2 cameras on your x10?
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2 cameras on your x10?
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Physical call and off button?
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Once they reduce that capital letters SAMSUNG logo in front, I'll recommend it. But for now, I'll say go for White X10, cool design...
No its Super AMOLED and its very visible outside in bright sunlight.
To the OP, just determine what you need in a device and use them both in the store. For the record, the Captivates GPS is broken and there is no camera flash. The Captivate has features that the X10 doesn't have. However the X10 will receive some of those features in a future update such as 720P video recording and Android 2.1. The Captivate has these features out of the box. My advice is to do some research online and dont rely purely on our recommendation.
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the only thing going for the Captivate is the screen...and only when viewing media or playing games etc. As for reading text, the X10's screen is much sharper. The build quality is much higher on the X10 too, the Galaxies get scratched real easy, just read some reviews. For me, the Galaxy Captivate/Vibrant looks like it's trying to be an iPhone which is blasphemous in my opinion lol. Not to mention the fact that everyone in the world will own some form of the Galaxy in the coming months. So if you want to have a unique and very stylish device with amazing hardware, definitely X10 because after the 2.1 update (hopefully Froyo eventually too) the software side of things won't be any different...otherwise you'll be left with a scratched up iPhone wannabe.
Thanks for the advice guys. I played with the X10 and I was very impressed, I guess ATT only offers it in black (sorry man), but I agree it looks damn fine. The camera was awesome and the media features were great. But the thing that sold me was that everything is solid and doesn't feel cheap. Just like my X1i, everything felt good, not gimmicky like my iPhone or the Captivate. I asked the guy in the store and he said go captivate but I real liked the x10. The screen in the cap was almost obnoxiously bright and the icons were cartoonish and silly.
Now, my only concern is android 1.6. Rumor is it'll be updated, but for the next month or 2 can I survive with it? I used to be a WM junkie, but lately I have been spoiled by my iPhone so I don't know how android works :/
BTW, the north American version doesn't have 2 cams, only 1 and there isn't a physical call button. But atleast there is a camera button, I loved that.
well i do not know of any X10 with 2 cameras
I don t get this GPS problem, I dont have it on my Galaxy S, why don t you bring the phone back for repair? (or have you tried that already)
i guess I was wrong about the camera.
Based on what I read, 2.1 is coming soon and Sony may even jump to 2.2 but you never konw. Loosk like manufacturers are a bit slow bringing 2.2 to the market. it's quite surprising to see Sony has not yet release 2.1 or 2.2 at all because Xperia was out like last year as oppose to Captivative that was out reently.
it seems to me that a lot of these phone, the softwrae is wehre it sets one from another. Samsung did a decent job with captivate so is Sony. But sony really neeed to get 2.1 or 2.2 out so it can really take the power of teh hardare.
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I don t get this GPS problem, I dont have it on my Galaxy S, why don t you bring the phone back for repair? (or have you tried that already)
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Lot of people are complaining about the GPS problem or low build quality of Galaxy S
Lot of people are complaining about low sound volume in call of X10.
You don't have problems with GPS.
I don't have problems with my X10.
This means this problems are not there?
Well, I bought the Captivate on day 1. I had to replace it on day 3. I just returned it on day 29 and picked up the X10.
My observations on the Captivate:
Great screen
Thin design
Junky buttons (don't like soft buttons so much)
Junky PC software
Serious Lag and general OS issues
The GPS is currently broken (does not work 100% as it should)
My observations on the X10 (2-days in):
Great screen (once you disable auto brightness setting)
Great looking (IMO)
Great buttons
Great media player (on phone)
Great companion software on the PC
I haven't really noticed any lag (either on the stock or unbranded ROM)
The GPS works amazingly quickly and accurately
The bottom line for me, and the reason I returned the Captivate, is Samsung has no real history of resolving issues with devices once they are released. I am fairly confident they will resolve the GPS issue but not so confident they will resolve all the other issues plaguing the device. Random resets, inability to wake the phone from a sleep and mysterious shut downs all happened to me. I also had problems with the battery and I just wasn't feeling too warm and fuzzy about Samsung. It's a shame really, it could be a great device. They also used some abnormal file system that is apparently the biggest cause of all the lag on the device.
The Sony device, on the other hand, seems much better thought out and seems like it will last longer as well. The screen is close enough between the two (for me anyway) that it's not really an issue. It's nice having the light on the camera because I can use it with a flashlight app. The additional fact that the PC companion software is so much better than anything I've seen for Android is also reassuring. It seems to me that Sony did a much more thorough job in the R&D stage and Samsung just designed a product that looks good on paper. I am very glad that I returned the Samsung device for the Sony.
BTW, I am not a Sony fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. I just honestly feel like it's the better device overall. It was a very difficult decision to return the Captivate as it does offer some very impressive specs, but in the end I need a device that is reliable and works.
a quick question for anyone who has used both phone, how are the mp3 players on either phone? Can you import your itune playlist without any issue? Also, can you see the lyrics like what you can do with iphone/ipod?
I am considering consolidate my mp3 player (ipod touch) and phone so I am hoping for one that will do everythign I can with my ipod. I konw iphoen does it but I am looking for options.
I really like XPERIA, Captivate looks cheap to me and I don't recommend.. yeah Android 2.2 will be nice on xperia .. hope Sony updates soon
tuxStyle said:
Lot of people are complaining about the GPS problem or low build quality of Galaxy S
Lot of people are complaining about low sound volume in call of X10.
You don't have problems with GPS.
I don't have problems with my X10.
This means this problems are not there?
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I didnt have the problem with the low income volume of the X10 after the update .23 either...

[Q] Advice on SE X10 Purchase

I am considering purchasing a SE X10 (unlocked market) since I read the Gingerbread announcement.
Seems to be the cheapest GHz Android phone on the market. How does this stack up vs the HTC Desire? I would wait for the new wave of Xperia phones but I cannot see them anywhere close the the price of the X10. I read a rumour that the Neo was going to be below in the 300 - 400 range.
What are the pros and cons of the X10? I want a decent camera, good screen, and relatively fast cpu. I came from a Wildfire so this will be a big step up. Lack of radio and no wifi N does not matter to me.
nicksti said:
I am considering purchasing a SE X10 (unlocked market) since I read the Gingerbread announcement.
Seems to be the cheapest GHz Android phone on the market. How does this stack up vs the HTC Desire? I would wait for the new wave of Xperia phones but I cannot see them anywhere close the the price of the X10. I read a rumour that the Neo was going to be below in the 300 - 400 range.
What are the pros and cons of the X10? I want a decent camera, good screen, and relatively fast cpu. I came from a Wildfire so this will be a big step up. Lack of radio and no wifi N does not matter to me.
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Well, depends where you're from, here in UK, the Neo is about £370 from SE-Store.
However, the X10i is not bad at all, from my experience with the Desire I can say it's much better ( though the Desire was running 2.2 ) but it's all about personal preferences.
Stock X10i with 2.1 vs Stock Desire 2.2, the Desire would win due to the JIT and 2.2 enhancements. But if you are thinking of adding mods and ROMs, I think X10i can stand up against the Desire.
Camera is better in X10i, but keep in mind when 2.3 is released for the X10 it will have an android stock camera instead of Sony Ericsson's, but it'll do fine...
Now if you can afford the Neo, I would advice you to go with it.
imo the desire is a much better phone....
I have used both, and I think the desire is wayyyy better.
The only thing the x10 has that is better is the camera. The desire gets better scores, you can mod it wayyyy more, it has true multitouch, the screen has 16 mill colours so it looks much better, etc....
Go with the desire my friend
The Only Draw back of X10i for me is low volume Speakers (both, earphone and speaker phone)
if you don't care about it, X10i is the master piece !
desire have some good points but it have terrible battery life!
I thought the X10 has multi touch?
Things that are important to me:
1. Price
2. Battery life
3. Good performance
4. Good camera
5. Updated Android (or moddable if not)
The Desire is nice, but it is more expensive.
nicksti said:
I thought the X10 has multi touch?
Things that are important to me:
1. Price
2. Battery life
3. Good performance
4. Good camera
5. Updated Android (or moddable if not)
The Desire is nice, but it is more expensive.
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weird here they are around the same price....
The battery life is probably about exactly the same
There is no multitouch on the x10. There is dual touch, but it functions pretty poorly on games, etc... (if you cross axis it goes all haywire)
The performance is on par with one another. However because desire has unlocked bootloader, you can tweak it much more and get much better performance.
The x10 has a much better camera, no doubt about it.
As far as the update, because of the bootloader it would be easier to get updates on the desire. The x10 has 2.3 coming, but not until quarter3 or 4 of this year. The roms around here for the x20 (gingerbread wise) aren't fully functional and still have a lot of issues.
X10 gets 2.3.3 Q2/Q3...
X10 2.3 vs Desire 2.3 will be a nice battle.
One of my mates has a Desire, can't wait to battle him ^^
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best of luck with buying xperia phones...
just google for "red light of death" for xperia phones....
unless you are okay with sending your phone to customer service every now and then...
i bought one and i'm regretting to the core....
no solutions given either by sonyericsson or can't find any on XDA...

[Q] Soo...today's the last day...

...that the Xperia X10 is officialy the flagship smartphone of sony ericsson.
How many of you are planning to keep it, at least until the end of this year?
Also, is it just me, or do I like the looks of the X10 better. Although it's a bit 'fat', I like the layout of the buttons and how it's less curved than the Arc. I also do like them a bit chubby
Anyway, long live the X10! Hopefully there will be some devs who stick with this phone and keep it getting better, but it's now the end of quite a crazy era for probably the most controversial android smartphone ever made.
going to stick with it for a while but doubt to have it till the end of the year
I will have to keep it till the end of the year Im 15 and bought a stupid phone... I readed many reviews that said this phone is great and WOULD GET MULTi tOUcH. It's Dual Touch, and that sucks. Afterall we didn't get any upgrades. But since the x10 gets gingerbread i'm going to bay end this year/begin next year another S.E.
S.E. her phones are just fully functional. All apps work, great functions, calling is really good. They make phones + services that make a phone something you can call a ''phone''.
Im gonna stay with it till next year, thx to the devs of xda that made that phone a good android phone that will be able to keep up with other androids such as desire, galaxys and nexus, hope sony will really keep their promise for gingerbread on x10, i doubt it but hey long live the x10
staying with it till it drops dead! can't find a reason why i shouldn't...does what it has to do till know..
I'm sure that I'll stick with X10 at least until 2013 lol.
The design is just beautiful and I don't splash cash every one or two year to "update" my phone
Same with many posts above.
I will use this phone for a long long time. I may even keep it as an antique 20 years from now as this phone had a meaning for me.
I had doubts with this phone before, but the devs made this phone great.
Like they made it less sluggish and just much more brilliant than when I first got it on 1.6. I got this phone the first day it came out and sticked with it until now because I was a big sony fan. (i'm not sure if i still am, as it was a wild ride from the first day)
Honestly, I don't see the point of owning the latest phone out anymore. I mean they purposely make these phone less than perfect so you will buy another phone every year or so. It's called planned obsolescence.
The X10 looks great, the camera is good and it has decent capabilities. I don't have an incentive to buy another new phone for another couple years.
Ive got my arc today! ;-)
i think we will really have everything we need in a phone with the X10 after the ginger upgrade
i don't see a need to "upgrade" and pay for a newer phone just because it's newer
reasons:
the camera is not that much better, if better at all
bigger screen (and bigger phone) than 4" is a CON for me...
i think the X10 has a very good screen even with 65K colors (and that may change with GB update)
full multitouch - hm...i don't even use the dual touch and when i do, i use it on games and that works just fine
512mb of ram over 384mb - doesn't really make a difference, at least not on gingerbread
WiFi hotspot - barnacle works just fine and i think with GB it'll be native
front camera - not usable where i live so thanks...
Faster cpu/gpu - OK, MAYBE this will be one noticeable difference but still, i think when our devs polish SE's GB it'll be within 5% speed difference in real usability, maybe not in benchmarks, but i don't play benchmarks
i don't really use HDMI (nor do i have a TV for that matter)
i don't care about built in radio
we will also have flash on x10 with GB update
i don't know if i missed anything but that about sums it up that FOR ME, the new features are not needed so for now i'll stay on x10
I voted for option #2, but I'm getting the Galaxy s2 after summer, depending on how good the 2.3 upgrade is really
I was thinking of going to the Incredible S or Optimus 3d but with the X10 getting gingerbread and SE offering a version with an unlocked bootloader, I'll be getting neither the S or 3D and sticking with SE.
With that said, the Arc and Neo don't offer enough for me to replace the X10 (only considered the S because of its 768 mb ram, front cam, and rear cam that comes close to the X10 but not enough of an upgrade either).
I'll wait for SE to bring out a dual core scorpion or a single core Krait (with adreno 3xx series).
What makes this even more difficult for me is the whole AT&T and TMO-USA status. Are they going to share 3g towers (tmo users able to use ATT's 3g bands?). It would be hard to justify 5-600$ for a phone just for it to be useless on 3g the following year. The only pentaband devices I know so far are Nokia's S^3.
I will keep my x10 until my region gets covered with LTE, then i will change phone.
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No reason to upgrade, the phone does what I need it to do, except be able to make calls in loud places!
I really don't see any reason to upgrade.
Granted, if I had money to spare, I'd certainly be tempted.
But if you combine my current unemployment with the upcoming GB update...
my X10 still has a long life ahead!
Getting the latest Google version officially from SE is plain AWESOME.
I do appreciate the effort put in custom ROMs and I have tried a handful of them,
but I believe that my device is at its full potential only on official firmwares
(at least until the bootloader gets cracked/bypassed).
i choose option 3!!
i'm actually looking to pass the x10 on to my wife, and get myself a Desire HD. there is just something about that 4.3" screen that is tempting me
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How many of you are planning to keep it, at least until the end of this year?
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I definitely won't have X10 till end of year as too many great toys will explode before then.
Somehow, I seem to have preference for SE designs but only Arc looks good of the 4 new SE phones that are announced. Arc has very little to offer in terms of hardware improvements over X10. That to me is a big let down by SE. Maybe, they are not targeting these new phones for current X10 user base. These new models might be more to attract new customers towards SE by keeping the phone price low.
I wish Arc had the specs of Galaxy S2. I might still end up falling for Arc when I get to see it in person but that is only because of larger screen and sleek design. Or I might go low and buy Galaxy S2.
Did anyone try Samsung Focus? I thought the 5MP camera on it actually takes much better pictures than our X10. I am hoping Galaxy S2 might also be having a camera as good as Arc if not better.
Guys, the BOOTLOADER HAS BEEN CRACKED
This means that the X10 CAN AND WILL be as smooth and as functional as the Xperia Arc! This is AMAZING!
I WILL be sticking with my X10 until 2013-2014, or until there's a major update that will revolutionize phones. The X10 is as good as any 2011 single core phone, and is cheaper, and still has a great fanbase.
Long live the X10!
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Guys, the BOOTLOADER HAS BEEN CRACKED
This means that the X10 CAN AND WILL be as smooth and as functional as the Xperia Arc! This is AMAZING!
I WILL be sticking with my X10 until 2013-2014, or until there's a major update that will revolutionize phones. The X10 is as good as any 2011 single core phone, and is cheaper, and still has a great fanbase.
Long live the X10!
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the bootloader hasn't been cracked, it's been bypassed...
kantk20111 said:
Guys, the BOOTLOADER HAS BEEN CRACKED
This means that the X10 CAN AND WILL be as smooth and as functional as the Xperia Arc! This is AMAZING!
I WILL be sticking with my X10 until 2013-2014, or until there's a major update that will revolutionize phones. The X10 is as good as any 2011 single core phone, and is cheaper, and still has a great fanbase.
Long live the X10!
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yesterday my provider gave me a great deal on Iphone 4 - 32 gb, extent my contract for another 2 years and get Iphone for free + usb moderm + 5gb data for just 49$. I decided sell it to my wife's friend for 850$ and stick with X10 cuz it has all what I need and want for my work and study. there're only thing I miss that wifi tethering and hopefuly it'll be fixed on upcoming GB.
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the bootloader hasn't been cracked, it's been bypassed...
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What is the difference, in terms of what can be implemented ? (I really don't know, I'm hoping you do)

[Q] Is it still adviseable to buy this phone now, 7 april 2012?

Hello folks, i'm a n00b.
I'm looking for a decent dual-cored smartphone,
and my eyes fell on the atrix 4g. (Do mind that in Europe you cannot buy the atrix2.)
Is this phone advisable to buy, or does it still have the issues of overheating / rebooting all the time?
And, should this phone be compared to the LG L7 P700 (which seems the only other option for the price), is it still a good buy?
In Europe these phones are priced roughly the same. (€300), [392.04 A. dollar]
Thanks in advance.
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Hello folks, i'm a n00b.
I'm looking for a decent dual-cored smartphone,
and my eyes fell on the atrix 4g. (Do mind that in Europe you cannot buy the atrix2.)
Is this phone advisable to buy, or does it still have the issues of overheating / rebooting all the time?
And, should this phone be compared to the LG L7 P700 (which seems the only other option for the price), is it still a good buy?
In Europe these phones are priced roughly the same. (€300), [392.04 A. dollar]
Thanks in advance.
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Only if you want a terrific and fast phone that can handle just about anything you throw at it!
FYI, I use mine all day long, in the car dock for navigation and MP3 playing while driving, as an actual phone in my hand/pocket, and in the laptop dock when I need it and I have never run out of juice or had it overheat. I think those reports are VERY anecdotal or are from people abusing their phones.
Go ahead and get one, you will not be sorry.
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Only if you want a terrific and fast phone that can handle just about anything you throw at it!
FYI, I use mine all day long, in the car dock for navigation and MP3 playing while driving, as an actual phone in my hand/pocket, and in the laptop dock when I need it and I have never run out of juice or had it overheat. I think those reports are VERY anecdotal or are from people abusing their phones.
Go ahead and get one, you will not be sorry.
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I must agree, it is a great piece of hardware, and software is up to you to choose. Great experience, great power. However one minor note here - you'd need to play with it, configure it and spend time with it - it is no iphone in my opinion, you'll need to MAKE it yours as you go. But it will pay off greatly. Honestly price-quality - on of the best on the market.
satkan said:
Hello folks, i'm a n00b.
I'm looking for a decent dual-cored smartphone,
and my eyes fell on the atrix 4g. (Do mind that in Europe you cannot buy the atrix2.)
Is this phone advisable to buy, or does it still have the issues of overheating / rebooting all the time?
And, should this phone be compared to the LG L7 P700 (which seems the only other option for the price), is it still a good buy?
In Europe these phones are priced roughly the same. (€300), [392.04 A. dollar]
Thanks in advance.
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Looking at the specs of the phone the LG doesn't match up to the Atrix with ram (512 compared to 1gb) and also internal memory is only 4GB on the LG compared to 16 GB .
The atrix has a bigger capaity battery but not by much.
The screen is larger on the LG (4.3) but I am not sure how the pixels ect compare (480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density) compared to 540 x 960 pixels, 4.0 inches (~275 ppi pixel density) for atrix)
The LG will have ICS whereas Atrix has froyo (european is 2.3.4) but the atrix can be easily modded on here.
I've never owned an LG phone so I can't comment on build/durability but I have had my atrix for 8 months now and I've never had any of the issues you have mentioned and I can't recomend it enough.
I would think it's a choice between the 'new' LG or the older Atrix (not to confuse matters but you could always look at one of the 'new' motorola phones). Decisions Decisions!
barry_ said:
Looking at the specs of the phone the LG doesn't match up to the Atrix with ram (512 compared to 1gb) and also internal memory is only 4GB on the LG compared to 16 GB .
The atrix has a bigger capaity battery but not by much.
The screen is larger on the LG (4.3) but I am not sure how the pixels ect compare (480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density) compared to 540 x 960 pixels, 4.0 inches (~275 ppi pixel density) for atrix)
The LG will have ICS whereas Atrix has froyo (european is 2.3.4) but the atrix can be easily modded on here.
I've never owned an LG phone so I can't comment on build/durability but I have had my atrix for 8 months now and I've never had any of the issues you have mentioned and I can't recomend it enough.
I would think it's a choice between the 'new' LG or the older Atrix (not to confuse matters but you could always look at one of the 'new' motorola phones). Decisions Decisions!
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+1 on everything except that atrix will be receiving ICS official as well
It's a great phone but if you have large hands/fingers, this will feel like holding a toy. I'd get the SGS2 if I were you and you will be good to go for a long time.
I would have to agree with everyone in that this phone is still a very reasonable option without spending tons of money. The best option for purchasing would be through an online retailer as a few of the carriers have stopped selling it. Most respectable web stores (ie Amazon, wirefly, etc should still have a decent number in stock)
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I recommend it also got mine for £160 as a Grade B used device from CeX was cheaper with store credit only had scuffs on battery cover.
Worth every penny very powerful and decent battery life.
Atrix is well wourth money hasnt had overheating problem since about 3rd or 4th update its extreamily stable and is as awsome as everyone above is saying this phone will even handle a 1.6 oc and only reaches 50 ºC on the heavyest of games and note the LG androids have a nasty habbit that depending on model they start rebooting at random after 6months-a year most optimus are 6 months
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You'd be hard pressed to find something with an unlocked boot loader and the performance specs for the price of an Atrix 4G right now...
i have the same question, currently using desire z, very annoyed with the lag of ram which make it impossible to run many latest game, and how is this front camera perform?
im in the market for phone with at least 768 ram and ok front camera
and how easy to root this phone?
I use a Samsung G S II Skyrocket now as my main phone.
I use the Atrix for my lapdock, mainly.
Atrix is still a great phone but it is harder to deal with (unlock), the touchscreen isn't as responsive as the Skyrocket and it is slower than the Sky.
Also, Motoblur is a pain...
There are some cool tools for the Sky; Darkside Superwipe, for example. And the screen on the Sky is really gorgeous. Originally, I was unhappy with the battery life but a quick root, debloat and a Faux kernel fixed all of that. And the Sky folks are playing around with a leaked ICS...
i would be planning to flash rom straight away so motorblur won't be an issue if it is easy enough to root
whitepandaaa said:
i have the same question, currently using desire z, very annoyed with the lag of ram which make it impossible to run many latest game, and how is this front camera perform?
im in the market for phone with at least 768 ram and ok front camera
and how easy to root this phone?
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its very simple to root this phone..just plug in, install drivers and run a program and it does everything for you..the front camera is good.. not great..but good for posing with the girlfriend or video chats..the back camera however takes great quality photos(if you want I can send you pics from either camera)
also, I've never experienced any lag while playing games on this phone(having played games like dead space and galaxy on fire 2, and fruit ninja HD)
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I've had the atrix for almost a year now, (rooted with a new launcher) and I liked it during that whole time. However I recently took the plunge and flashed ICS/CM9 (Jokersax)... now I love the phone. It's fast, smooth, well organized, a pleasure to use all around - with CM9, I feel like Android has finally reached the point where it is both more customizable AND more elegant than the easy-to-use iPhone.
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its very simple to root this phone..just plug in, install drivers and run a program and it does everything for you..the front camera is good.. not great..but good for posing with the girlfriend or video chats..the back camera however takes great quality photos(if you want I can send you pics from either camera)
also, I've never experienced any lag while playing games on this phone(having played games like dead space and galaxy on fire 2, and fruit ninja HD)
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it will be great if you can send pic from both camera so I can compare it, have not got avga camera to compare since it was no in the days of good old Sony Ericsson K700 does the front camera work with Skype?
I'm struggling to think that while this phone is may be worth it but quad core will be out soon
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whitepandaaa said:
it will be great if you can send pic from both camera so I can compare it, have not got avga camera to compare since it was no in the days of good old Sony Ericsson K700 does the front camera work with Skype?
I'm struggling to think that while this phone is may be worth it but quad core will be out soon
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okay, here you go, the first picture is the front facing camera, you can see its not wonderful quality but good for quick snapshots of yourself or you and whoever, and as good a quality for video calls as I've seen..the last two are from the back facing camera, and while it's not amazing, it's also no slouch either..
yeah I used skype once on it and it did work, but I mostly use gtalk and it works well..
of course if you have the time to wait for the quad phones to come out and the money to buy them, you might as well..this is a year old phone, which means it might be a little outdated, however its really excellent for the cheap price
edit: this is done without the MIUI camera, which takes better quality pictures, but doesn't allow you to take pictures through the front facing
The atriz has been out for about a year now so its gonna lose support after it gets ice. I'm having a boatload of problems. Wifi/Bluetooth is taken out and half of my screen isn't working. other then that its a pretty solid phone. When I close everything and have juice defender on extreme and screen off it dross about 2 percent per hour. It seems the Africa has its flaws like Bluetooth and the digitizer. I'm pretty sure that's why they released the affix 2 I think you should look into the newer phones. Then research what Rome they have and how strong the developing community is. The Africa for me is 7/10 just cause of the hardware problems. If it didn't it'd be 10. It can run with a tiny lag at 456 on neutrino Tom 2.6 which is incredible. But yeah. That's my take on the phone! Make sure the one you get has gorrila glass. The attic is a beast. I dropped it about 10 metres down the down the stairs on accident then fell another 5. Nothingbhappened to it haha. I heard the nexus has amazing battery life.
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Lol, Africa.
Wow, you must have typed that all on your phone. Rome? Tom? Affix? Attic?
Atrix hands down!!
I have bought an Atrix for 15 days now and the only thing that I can say about it is that I absolutely adore it.
Its not my first dual core Smartphone since I came from a broken Optimus 3D, which, for the record, was the worst buy ever.
The Atrix is ridiculously faster than the O3D, the 1gb of RAM on the atrix does a huge difference and is really necessary nowadays (O3D had 512mb and was always out of free RAM)
The battery in the Atrix is unbelievable. Till today Never ran out of it, and would run out of battery every single day with the O3D.
The Atrix is way more reliable than any LG phone, and I'm telling you, I worked there, I know what I'm saying.
Go with the Atrix, you will NOT be disappointed, trust me.

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