So I downloaded ryanza'sOCLF but I'm hesitant to run it.. wanted to find out a few things first which I couldn't seem to clarify using search in the forum.
Is it possible to just root using this program and not apply the lagfix? (seeing if this is easier since no PC involved)
Are there any problems reverting back to stock if rooting using this method?
Also does rooting wipe all data so should save it on a PC?
I ultimately want to root and apply the bionix fusion rom though I'm still unsure about the kernel to use etc. and I ultimately want to avoid lagfix since it seems that forgetting to disable it before flashing caused alot of bricks.
answers, tips, and recommendations are EXTREMELY appreciated.
Flaming will however also be understood though I did try the search tool for my questions.
omar26c said:
So I downloaded ryanza'sOCLF but I'm hesitant to run it.. wanted to find out a few things first which I couldn't seem to clarify using search in the forum.
Is it possible to just root using this program and not apply the lagfix? (seeing if this is easier since no PC involved)
Are there any problems reverting back to stock if rooting using this method?
Also does rooting wipe all data so should save it on a PC?
I ultimately want to root and apply the bionix fusion rom though I'm still unsure about the kernel to use etc. and I ultimately want to avoid lagfix since it seems that forgetting to disable it before flashing caused alot of bricks.
answers, tips, and recommendations are EXTREMELY appreciated.
Flaming will however also be understood though I did try the search tool for my questions.
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-Yes, it's possible to just root.
-No, there's no problems reverting back.
-No, it doesn't wipe any data. Flashing another ROM how ever does.
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omar26c said:
So I downloaded ryanza'sOCLF but I'm hesitant to run it.. wanted to find out a few things first which I couldn't seem to clarify using search in the forum.
Is it possible to just root using this program and not apply the lagfix? (seeing if this is easier since no PC involved)
Are there any problems reverting back to stock if rooting using this method?
Also does rooting wipe all data so should save it on a PC?
I ultimately want to root and apply the bionix fusion rom though I'm still unsure about the kernel to use etc. and I ultimately want to avoid lagfix since it seems that forgetting to disable it before flashing caused alot of bricks.
answers, tips, and recommendations are EXTREMELY appreciated.
Flaming will however also be understood though I did try the search tool for my questions.
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Yes. You can use it for root only.
No problems using it to unroot either.
Stick with the stock fusion to start.
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Thank You guys very much for the answers! Had a G1 before this that I rooted and flashed a few times but the vibrant seems a little trickier than that so wanted make sure. Thanks again.
Hah. After flashing a few times, using Odin, and adding custom kernels, your really gona love the vibrant. Thing is tough as nails. I like to say good luck TRYING to brick this thing. I would suggest getting familir with odin though because rooting is "a gateway drug"
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Although I've flashed non-phone devices in the past (routers, PAP2, Ipod classic, etc.) This is the first time I'm going to be flashing a SmartPhone that I've ordered which I should be getting very soon.
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S II and have been crawling the forum trying to learn all I can before I try rooting and unlocking my phone when I get it. But I'm having trouble deciding on a few things.
Hopefully my question can become a guide for other new people who are just starting off like me.
Rooting:
To begin, I'm trying to figure out what's best for rooting.
I've looked at a few different methods..
Chainfire's direct method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
lyriquidperfection's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
CLShortFuse's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
LitePro's ROM and Root method all-in-one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
All of these have their own merits. But I'm trying to figure out the best approach for myself.
Although Lightn'ing (LitePro's) looks interesting and I may try that ROM later, for now I want to avoid changing the ROM till I know I like the phone. So I'm looking at the first three choices.
The one that I think I would be able to do easiest is either lyriquidperfection's or CLShortFuse's methods as they both are one-click solutions and I just need to grab the right kernels.
I don't know if there's any reason I would want to go with Chainfire's instead of the two previously mentioned. If there is please let me know.
I asked this question on the respective threads but as of posting haven't gotten an answer of if there's any reason to flash the original kernel back after rooting and if I keep root if I flash it back.
I also don't know much about the use of Jigs to avoid the flash counter going up. Is there any reason I need to worry about the flash counter going up? Is there a limit on number of flashes on a phone?
Unlocking:
For unlocking I looked at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092451
However it seems for my specific phone (Virgin/Bell) we use this method as posted in the same thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16482293#post16482293
This seems pretty much straight-forward. I just got to root the phone then get and run the app mentioned. Phone will crash/reboot and then no SIM lock.
If there's anything that seems wrong with this let me know please.
Other stuff:
At some stage here I want to be able to back up the stuff on the phone and get other typical tools.
I keep hearing about ClockWorkMod constantly and it seems to be a tool for backing up the phone data and making it easier to flash stuff in without use of ODIN.
I haven't found clear documentation on how I would do this on the SGII specifically.
I also here Titanium backup (sp?) is also a good idea to install at some point.
Is there other apps or otherwise I should be looking into before I start this journey into the wonderful world of hacked smartphones?
-This is a place marker for me making amendments so that later this may be more or less a guide for other beginners-
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Although I've flashed non-phone devices in the past (routers, PAP2, Ipod classic, etc.) This is the first time I'm going to be flashing a SmartPhone that I've ordered which I should be getting very soon.
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S II and have been crawling the forum trying to learn all I can before I try rooting and unlocking my phone when I get it. But I'm having trouble deciding on a few things.
Hopefully my question can become a guide for other new people who are just starting off like me.
Rooting:
To begin, I'm trying to figure out what's best for rooting.
I've looked at a few different methods..
Chainfire's direct method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
lyriquidperfection's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
CLShortFuse's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
LitePro's ROM and Root method all-in-one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
All of these have their own merits. But I'm trying to figure out the best approach for myself.
Chainfires simplest method less problems for most .
Root + CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
I also don't know much about the use of Jigs to avoid the flash counter going up. Is there any reason I need to worry about the flash counter going up? Is there a limit on number of flashes on a phone?
Zero as Samsung will invalidate warranty for custom roms or rooted phones .
Other stuff:
At some stage here I want to be able to back up the stuff on the phone and get other typical tools.
I keep hearing about ClockWorkMod constantly and it seems to be a tool for backing up the phone data and making it easier to flash stuff in without use of ODIN.
I haven't found clear documentation on how I would do this on the SGII specifically.
Their is no documentation its probably written up in the FAQ or Wip but is a relativity simple tool anyway .Backup restore phones rom install custom rom wipe data factory reset reset battery stats to zero .
FAQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065995
Wip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
I also here Titanium backup (sp?) is also a good idea to install at some point.
On a rooted phone Titanium pro allows you to back up your apps and also to freeze apps .
jje
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Thorough stuff, props to you sir - you know search so you'll get your first thanks...
I would advice you to go with Chainfire's method. It's the easiest and most versatile method IMO. Definitely the best for beginners because you keep your stock ROM yet still are rooted and get Clockwork Mod.
The installed CWM (Clockwork Mod) Manager app with Chainfire's work is an easy way to see what it does - basically you can backup and restore your whole system/device, plus flash custom ROM/kernels/themes etc. Look into the flashing part later - baby steps are good here!
Titanium Backup is an excellent backup app for backing up/restoring apps and data, as opposed to the whole system. Buy the Pro version, definitely worth it.
I also like My Backup (also on Market), excellent for backing up contacts/SMS/MMS. The free version is a 30 day trial.
Can't help with unlocking, never needed to - sure others can help.
Good luck
Edit - JJ beat me too it, hadn't seen his post. Must type faster...
@JJEgan & @B3311, thanks for the useful information.
I was going to try those one-click methods because I thought those were the more newbie friendly methods. Thanks for the information to try using Chainfire's instead.
I will try using Chainfire's method instead with your advice when I get the phone. Having the tools like his CWM hopefully will make things easier.
I am a bit concerned though about his mention that Rom Loader won't work with his version of the build. I'd still like the ability to use custom roms down the road once I learn how to properly back up the phone so I can experiment with various roms till I find the one I like most.
Any advice about using rom loader or other possible difficulties using Chainfire's kernel?
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@JJEgan & @B3311, thanks for the useful information.
I was going to try those one-click methods because I thought those were the more newbie friendly methods. Thanks for the information to try using Chainfire's instead.
I will try using Chainfire's method instead with your advice when I get the phone. Having the tools like his CWM hopefully will make things easier.
I am a bit concerned though about his mention that Rom Loader won't work with his version of the build. I'd still like the ability to use custom roms down the road once I learn how to properly back up the phone so I can experiment with various roms till I find the one I like most.
Any advice about using rom loader or other possible difficulties using Chainfire's kernel?
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Most just put custom rom on sd card and flash via CWM .
Sorry no nothing about Rom Loader .
jje
I would also advice using CF-Root. I was scared of rooting my phone, but after using CF-Root, I don’t know why I was so scared. The process took a little over 30 seconds (I need practice). To me at lease I think it’s the easiest method, you just need to make sure to download the right kernel.
EDIT:
Get a UBS jig, After rooting, I had the "yellow triangle" I turned off phone, removed battery, inserted jig, put back battery, entered download mode, restarted phone and no more "yellow triangle"
Thanks to all of the devs who've been working on this phone, we now have various ways to get root access to our phone (ie. torpedo, AIO, etc.). The question I have is which method is the best or does it not matter? Are there any drawbacks to one method or another?
I've had success with using the AIO one-click method. However, I'm trying to narrow down the reason for my phone randomly rebooting. After my last wipe, my phone was stable for 2 days. Once I rooted it, my phone randomly rebooted the next day. I don't know if this was a simple coincidence or if somehow rooting caused the reboot. I know many of you have rooted and don't have random reboots. The only apps I had installed at this point where:
Deja Office
Enhanced Email
Titanium Backup
Any thoughts?
I'm rooted with the AIO one-click and I've never had a random reboot. Then again, before I rooted I never had a random reboot either. I think part of it is just luck of the draw and varies between individual phones. Some people have random reboots several times a day no matter what they do top their phones, some have none, and everything in between. Sorry I couldn't help solve your issue, but I hope I helped anyway.
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Thanks for your response and I'm glad the one-click method is working for you with no reboots. Of course, this sends me back to the drawing board.
I'm rebuilding my phone right now and will try the torpedo root method to see if my phone will be more stable. If not, I guess I'll get a 3rd Photon replacement. Like you said, maybe it is just the luck of the draw with the hardware. Some phones can handle the 1.4 oc kernels and some can't. Wish me luck...
According to this thread, rooting with the one-click method prohibits flashing the CM7 ROM but the torpedo method works. Therefore, there does seem to be a difference between the rooting methods.
I seem to remember hearing something about titanium backup being unstable on this phone, was that fixed?
Sent from one focused mopho!
Fortunately, Titanium works well on my MoPho.
sjamie said:
According to this thread, rooting with the one-click method prohibits flashing the CM7 ROM but the torpedo method works. Therefore, there does seem to be a difference between the rooting methods.
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yea... thats not true... >.>
rooting doesnt mean unlocking. there is a difference. for instance between rooting and running odin on a samung phone, or rooting and running unrevoked on htc... rsdlite is much much lower programming then root is. since im on linux and i use sbf_flash i actually have a return to goodness script that roots me installs an unlocked bootloader and flashes cwm all in one for me for after locking it back up again.
And that thread does not state it prohibits flashing cm7 using AIO. He was just having some issues unlocking so it was recommended to start fresh using another method.
And like the man above^ says two different things /rooting vs unlocking.
just saying...
sjamie said:
According to this thread, rooting with the one-click method prohibits flashing the CM7 ROM but the torpedo method works. Therefore, there does seem to be a difference between the rooting methods.
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Cool, if I misunderstood what was being stated in that thread... my bad.
Just trying to figure out what is making my phone unstable. I just rooted my phone using the torpedo method this time around which made me further appreciate the convenience of shabbypenguin's one-click method.
Let's see how long I can go without a random reboot!
no its cool, i get plenty of people that blame root for all sorts of things
I didn't realise I would lose the 'Root' after updating to 3.2. I have retried 3 times, I guess rooting the SGT after the 3.2 update is not possible yet? Does anyone know, if it is/will be possible soon? I just need it for the adhoc wireless. Any help appreciated, TIA, Neil
Certainly possible, look in the development section / sticky threads
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I'm using Overcome ROM and there's no problem. The ROM is better than stock too.
If you flash the official Firmware via CWM you'll keep ur rooot
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Just follow the same method that you used to root before 3.2. It will work.
OK, clearly it does work for some, not for me, not it the three attempts so far. Of course, I did follow the tutorial from here as that's what I used before, problem is, it just hasn't worked. I actually did the whole thing from scratch, following step by step and everything seemed to be OK, I got the 'I only have one speed' message at the end of the root, rebooted but it simply didn't have any effect, I am not rooted. This is what lead me to believe that it must be something to do with the update. I'll give it another go. It all seemed so easy last time.
Cheers, Neil.
It has worked now. Off to try and find out if there's another, newer wpa_supplicant file now as that bit, the only bit I want, isn't working. Sigh!
Why doesn't it all just work?
You say : "it has worked" so it works.
Sometimes, the system doen't find properly the root.
Try to open superuser first then your soft you want root.
You can also try to update su in options menu (maybe this option is only for elite version?)
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
Hey guys,
Bit of an Android noob here but I am quite tech savvy. I am gonna root my Prime and install Androwook on it but first I would just like to go over some things. I have had a look around at a lot of guides and that and have figured to do this I need to unlock the bootloader using ASUS' own app fro their support, then I need to install CWM on it through the unlocked bootloader and then I can backup and install new ROMS. But which point is the root, I can't seem to find a clear answer or is it a whole new step all together? And also could you please guide me if this is completely wrong because I am paranoid about my Prime and would hate to end up with it bricked. Sorry if this is sort of in the wrong area or a bit of a repeated question, just paranoid!
Thanks,
I saw your post completely randomly, but I think I have your answer. Rooting your device can be done at any point by either unlockroot.com or DoomLord's toolkit somewhere on the site. It has no effect on installing roms/unlocking bootloaders. It simply gives you more control over a device. I hope I understood your question and helped. Good luck
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Ok, thanks, that clears a lot up. I will check that out. I didn't know it was that easy. Could I also ask, which part of the process risks the device been bricked?
mdemons12 said:
Ok, thanks, that clears a lot up. I will check that out. I didn't know it was that easy. Could I also ask, which part of the process risks the device been bricked?
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Well unlocking the bootloader SHOULD be safe if yu're unlocking by offficial means. What can damage your device is flashing the wrong files. So be REALLY careful with what you flash on your device and always double-check the tutorials in the given thread
if i remember correctly, they said you need root was to install cwm onto your system
the rooting process is very easy anyways
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588
for the unlocking use the asus official one (This will void ALL warranties so if you brick your prime, well then GG)
and as above post says, most things should be very save so long as you follow to the dot.
when it says DO NOT POWER THE SYSTEM DOWN, just follow what it says and don't power things down, you should be fine
download things that are for you ONLY don't go to other threads trying to install iOS onto your prime (not that its possible.... that i know of)
just read it make sure you understand you won't brick anything~
Yes well I plan on putting the Androwook rom on which seems pretty darn stable. If ASUS comes out with a JB rom for the Prime and I was on the Androwook ROM, would it still be possible to update?
mdemons12 said:
Yes well I plan on putting the Androwook rom on which seems pretty darn stable. If ASUS comes out with a JB rom for the Prime and I was on the Androwook ROM, would it still be possible to update?
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yes the devs will be able to put jelly bean on the prime if we get the official update :fingers-crossed:
mdemons12 said:
Yes well I plan on putting the Androwook rom on which seems pretty darn stable. If ASUS comes out with a JB rom for the Prime and I was on the Androwook ROM, would it still be possible to update?
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It is worth noting that you probably don't need to go through the root process if you are installing a custom ROM. Many (most?) custom roms grant super-user permissions by default.
well it does say in the requirements of Androwook that it requires a root.
one suggestion though, use TWRP as your recovery mode. quite handy...
mdemons12 said:
well it does say in the requirements of Androwook that it requires a root.
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The reason you root your device is to gain superuser permissions. Most OEM versions of Android don't give you SU permissions because it is possible you could mess up your device by deleting systems files or changing hidden settings. However most custom ROMs give you superuser permissions by default.
After unlocking your Prime, I would recommend installing TWRP using the fastboot method, so that you don't need to install root first. Then you can backup your stock and flash AndroWook from TWRP. AndroWook is already rooted, so you won't need to worry about adding extra steps for root.
~Azrael's Kiss~
OK, thanks for the replies. I think I will wait a little and test the device for any major problems before I root and unlock because I don't want to have to send it back for an RMA.
So from what I have read around I need to:
1. Unlock bootloader using the ASUS tool
2. Install CWM or similar and backup my current ROM although I have seen trouble with installing 2.1 with CWM so I think I might use TWRP
3. Install Androwook 2.1 and from what I have read skip some things like bravia engine, sd wipe sqlite vacuum and add sio io scheduler.
There seem to be so many options with the installer which makes it a bit confusing but first up I think I will use the 1.6GHz Kernel or something and keep it mainly stock.
I recently rooted my T-mobile 4G Samsung Galaxy S with SuperOneClick, but I think I have decided that root is way too advanced for me. I have not installed any ROMs since rooting, is it still possible for me to reinstall Android back to the stock version safely, or has my device been permanently modified??
For those unaware of SuperOneClick, installing it did not require me to lose any data on the phone to root, which was pretty nice. I like being rooted, my inner geek lusted for it, but I have a feeling it's just not for me. Perhaps if I learned a little more about ROMs, I may go that route. Either way, I want to reinstall Android and start over.
Please respond.
Double44 said:
I recently rooted my T-mobile 4G Samsung Galaxy S with SuperOneClick, but I think I have decided that root is way too advanced for me. I have not installed any ROMs since rooting, is it still possible for me to reinstall Android back to the stock version safely, or has my device been permanently modified??
For those unaware of SuperOneClick, installing it did not require me to lose any data on the phone to root, which was pretty nice. I like being rooted, my inner geek lusted for it, but I have a feeling it's just not for me. Perhaps if I learned a little more about ROMs, I may go that route. Either way, I want to reinstall Android and start over.
Please respond.
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You can go back to stock rom find your stock rom and flash it with odin search in google
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Double44 said:
I recently rooted my T-mobile 4G Samsung Galaxy S with SuperOneClick, but I think I have decided that root is way too advanced for me. I have not installed any ROMs since rooting, is it still possible for me to reinstall Android back to the stock version safely, or has my device been permanently modified??
For those unaware of SuperOneClick, installing it did not require me to lose any data on the phone to root, which was pretty nice. I like being rooted, my inner geek lusted for it, but I have a feeling it's just not for me. Perhaps if I learned a little more about ROMs, I may go that route. Either way, I want to reinstall Android and start over.
Please respond.
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An easier way to do it is to install SuperSU from the market and do full unroot in settings
Thanks guys, I will definitely look into those options. If I went in the root direction, could I possibly reformat the entire phone including the SD card? I have nothing on there worth keeping and want a clean slate to start from, the phone is currently running at super slow speeds.
Double44 said:
Thanks guys, I will definitely look into those options. If I went in the root direction, could I possibly reformat the entire phone including the SD card? I have nothing on there worth keeping and want a clean slate to start from, the phone is currently running at super slow speeds.
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yes try twrp or cwm with that format system dalvik cache, cache data or anything you want
then flash your stock rom using odin
you will get a new phone as if you bought it today
Using the XDA wiki I found here, I think I've decided I am going to attempt to install a custom ROM.
I'm already rooted w/SuperOneClick, and am still on stock Gingerbread 2.3.6. This would be classified as BLM, correct?
If I am following this wiki correctly, I am at the step of installing a kernel to obtain ClockworkMod Recovery. I did some looking around between the two choices listed, Basic With A Twist and Blast-Off!. The XDA wiki suggests that All custom kernels for this device have CWM Recovery preinstalled, but I cannot seem to verify this. I'd hate to fool around with either of the two if I cannot obtain ClockworkMod Recovery.
Double44 said:
Using the XDA wiki I found here, I think I've decided I am going to attempt to install a custom ROM.
I'm already rooted w/SuperOneClick, and am still on stock Gingerbread 2.3.6. This would be classified as BLM, correct?
If I am following this wiki correctly, I am at the step of installing a kernel to obtain ClockworkMod Recovery. I did some looking around between the two choices listed, Basic With A Twist and Blast-Off!. The XDA wiki suggests that All custom kernels for this device have CWM Recovery preinstalled, but I cannot seem to verify this. I'd hate to fool around with either of the two if I cannot obtain ClockworkMod Recovery.
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check the thread of the kernel there should a list of features provided
if the kernel is integrated with cwm then t should be listed in the features so you can be sure about cwm
sangalaxy said:
check the thread of the kernel there should a list of features provided
if the kernel is integrated with cwm then t should be listed in the features so you can be sure about cwm
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I looked all over the BlastOff! and Basic With A Twist pages, but could not find any information on them regarding CWM.
Double44 said:
I looked all over the BlastOff! and Basic With A Twist pages, but could not find any information on them regarding CWM.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716 check this thread for something and I guess there is kernel with cwm