Sorry: Due To Strong Demand We Cannot Provide Service At This Time. Please Try Again Later., In Windows Mobile 6 and 6.5 is the message you are going to get if you are a skyfire user now. This been like this for the last 2 days now.
I don't know if we the windows mobile users have been turn off to get the big sale for the iphone, i will be removing skyfire from my phone for reason of no reply on the truth on why we have been turn off. I believe someone is not supporting beta anymore.
I have the same problem since yesterday! Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, unfortunately they have just launched their iPhone and iPad version for the app store.
To try to handle the load of new users on their server farms, they have basically said f-off to the WinMo and Symbian users.
Here's a link showing how well they are doing with iPhoney sales in the app store.
santod040 said:
Yeah, unfortunately they have just launched their iPhone and iPad version for the app store.
To try to handle the load of new users on their server farms, they have basically said f-off to the WinMo and Symbian users.
Here's a link showing how well they are doing with iPhoney sales in the app store.
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Damn.. Kudos to them haha. Anyways, use uZard.
skyfire has turned off winmo and symbian access
from one of their forum mods in their support section:
All the platforms run on one server, After the high demand for skyfire on iphone's for now Windows has been turned off on the server end. I can't give you a exact time period as to when we'll be back up again, All I can say is soon.
http://support.skyfire.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5981
oh well, I will never use it on any phone I get in the future. To turn off the servers for the people that built their reputation is pretty crappy. I hope they can't keep up with demand and get a bad reputation on the iphone.
why the **** i have to connect to a server if i only want to use the f****** browser. they should remove the online bookmark function at least give it a offline modus. they whole browser is still very suspect to me. simply let us use the browser like every ither developer and dont force us to go online before we evev load a webpage and make money with our surfbehaviors. anyways browser is great, but only if you can use it, without synchronising your bookmarks and whatever furthrt at stsrtup...
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why the **** i have to connect to a server if i only want to use the f****** browser. they should remove the online bookmark function at least give it a offline modus. they whole browser is still very suspect to me. simply let us use the browser like every ither developer and dont force us to go online before we evev load a webpage and make money with our surfbehaviors. anyways browser is great, but only if you can use it, without synchronising your bookmarks and whatever furthrt at stsrtup...
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I think that's because Skyfire is basically an Internet Proxy - it accesses the real pages, optimises them for size & speed and serves them back to the local browser as a Skyfire friendly page that renders quickly.
So no server, no browser, basically.
...and careful with the language please!
Well I for one am never gonna use skyfire again. Never thought it was that good any way apart from flash. uZardWeb is way faster in the uk. I think skyfire really dont see that there is competition out there and not just from uZardWeb. Wish I never gave them support with skyfire when they started out.
Skyfire doesn't give a damn about Windows Mobile... They dropped the platform (notice how there no version 2.0 for WM). They made no money with it (it was free), its dying platform and their code wouldn't work in WP7 (due to the stupid "no native code" support... imagine rewriting everything in C# for free and such a small niche).
Lot's of Apple idiots/fanboys in the world (it's a fing status symbol/icon). With the iPhone/iPad version I assume they are getting more traffic than they can handle right now. Anyway the only reason they are getting this much attention is Apple's anti-flash tantrum...
PS: I hate the uZard Project. uZard Media player is a slightly modified TCPMP version (worse than bimbam's by the way)... They didn't release the sources and didn't respond to my mail requesting it. I hope Core nails them for copyright infringement.
well, uzard could be good, but as i see some 'trial period over' it makes me go away.
Oh, btw, skyfire s**k big time.
Same here, so just un-installed it. Sod them,life goes on.
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Skyfire doesn't give a damn about Windows Mobile... They dropped the platform (notice how there no version 2.0 for WM). They made no money with it (it was free), its dying platform and their code wouldn't work in WP7 (due to the stupid "no native code" support... imagine rewriting everything in C# for free and such a small niche).
Lot's of Apple idiots/fanboys in the world (it's a fing status symbol/icon). With the iPhone/iPad version I assume they are getting more traffic than they can handle right now. Anyway the only reason they are getting this much attention is Apple's anti-flash tantrum...
PS: I hate the uZard Project. uZard Media player is a slightly modified TCPMP version (worse than bimbam's by the way)... They didn't release the sources and didn't respond to my mail requesting it. I hope Core nails them for copyright infringement.
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they didn't have to give winmo a 2.0 update, just a 1.6 update that fixed the video playback issues. Skyfire 1.x is based on IE6 (I think) which is no longer supported by most built video plugins. That is why video died.
And now to have been cut off completely from the servers.....
Alternative browsers?
Its been 4 days and i already miss having built in video web pages. I have come to my senses and going to delete skyfire for good. Right now im using opera mini and opera mobile for my browsing satisfication, but no built in video i could live without it, but are there any alternative browsers that can do the same thing?
This is one of many reasons why cloud computing sucks
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Its been 4 days and i already miss having built in video web pages. I have come to my senses and going to delete skyfire for good. Right now im using opera mini and opera mobile for my browsing satisfication, but no built in video i could live without it, but are there any alternative browsers that can do the same thing?
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I am trying uzard now, nice interface, videos play in a uzard player. Good for most video, probably not optimal for pron.
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I am trying uzard now, nice interface, videos play in a uzard player. Good for most video, probably not optimal for pron.
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lol
Uzard wasn't good enough .. Is there an updated version somewhere?
any.option.to.replace.Skyfire?
Thank you guys for posting this thread and information.
I allways went to Sky Fire in the morning to read the news and stuff.
I was wondering what the happened to the server.
I now know why.
So I deleted Sky Fire and installed this Uzard Browser.
It works, but video is shoppy and browser is not as fast as Opera, but the colors and graphics is much better.
Skyfire is done with WM just like other companys dishing out software. They are all waitin for WP7. The only company I've seen that has the balls & courtesy to admit it was NIMBUZZ. Their site actually doesn't even offer WM downloads anymore and says they will resume work when the WP7 platform is ready. Look around all the well known programs that are cross platform and u will notice IPHONE & ANDROID have been getting updatest but not WM. Even the news station in my area says no more updates for the near future when tryin to download their news app. If everyone was not so materialistic and only cared about the new cool device these companies would keep supportin WM but they are just doin what the consumer wants them to do. They make more money from IPHONE & ANDROID so ofcourse thats where their attention is focused & till WP7 comes they will keep sayin "**** WINDOWS MOBILE!" Its all about money.
Well, it's kind of disappointing, but it's not like I paid for it (like the iphone users are doing).
You can use TCPMP as the player for UZard. I don't remember the exact trick, but I think if you open tcpmp up first, then open a vid on uzard, it will play through tcpmp, which is better because the skin on the uzard player is crap.
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I'm quite excited about this:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/142083/mobile-firefox-to-debut-on-windows-mobile.html
Perhaps we'll get that long-awaited full browser functionality on Windows Mobile.
If this is the Firefox seen on the latest N800 Tabet update then we can expect FULL, smooth flash support and snappy load times.
If so this could be a worry for Opera Mobile, who are seemingly SH*T at integrating effective flash support into their browsers - they couldn't even manage it with the Wii.
I can only cross my fingers......
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I'm quite excited about this:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/142083/mobile-firefox-to-debut-on-windows-mobile.html
Perhaps we'll get that long-awaited full browser functionality on Windows Mobile.
If this is the Firefox seen on the latest N800 Tabet update then we can expect FULL, smooth flash support and snappy load times.
If so this could be a worry for Opera Mobile, who are seemingly SH*T at integrating effective flash support into their browsers - they couldn't even manage it with the Wii.
I can only cross my fingers......
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If you want to try a beta of it here it is !
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It's quite good but it's not perfect flash is not yet implemented in this version but RSS is !! there are also missing options like the ability to lie to websites about the type of device (portable/desktop) and it keeps putting the touch keyboard up, just tap on the screen to close it
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If you want to try a beta of it here it is !
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It's quite good but it's not perfect flash is not yet implemented in this version but RSS is !! there are also missing options like the ability to lie to websites about the type of device (portable/desktop) and it keeps putting the touch keyboard up, just tap on the screen to close it
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I believe Minimo is a separate project. The new firefox development is for wm6 and linux-based devices with a bit more RAM and ROM at their disposal as far as i know.
Nokia ousted Opera in favour of firefox for the browser in OS2008 (which is superb). If the same browser can be put on my WM6 device i'll be VERY happy.
It will be great... I use the web alot and thats one reason i use my iphone more. if we can get firefox ... goodbye iphone...
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It will be great... I use the web alot and thats one reason i use my iphone more. if we can get firefox ... goodbye iphone...
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The link from this article has a bit more information...
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/10/firefox-coming-to-your-phone/.
It seems that it CERTAINLY isn't Minimo - more a fully-fledged browser and will released around the first quarter of next year.
Trying to source some more info
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If you want to try a beta of it here it is !
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
it keeps putting the touch keyboard up, just tap on the screen to close it
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or disable software keyboard in options, but it seams that slow and freezzes my device up for 30 seconds at a time as its a beta hope it will be improved masively as opera is far more user friendly
firefox beta2
No stable not working
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or disable software keyboard in options, but it seams that slow and freezzes my device up for 30 seconds at a time as its a beta hope it will be improved masively as opera is far more user friendly
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it worked fine for me are you sure you got the 0.2 version not the 0.1 !!!
leoni1980 said:
The link from this article has a bit more information...
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/10/firefox-coming-to-your-phone/.
It seems that it CERTAINLY isn't Minimo - more a fully-fledged browser and will released around the first quarter of next year.
Trying to source some more info
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I see what you are saying, but I also think it is foolish to think they are going to completely ignore the mobile browser they already have in their stable and come up with a new firefox mobile !!!
We will wait and see, I think you will find the the up and coming firefox will have more in common with minimo than you give credit for. When using minimo I noticed it was quick opening up tabs (quicker than opera) and the loading symbol for a loading tab was the same as used on firefox on my desktop! the point is there are already similarities I expect firefox to be based on some if not a lot of the minimo code.
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it worked fine for me are you sure you got the 0.2 version not the 0.1 !!!
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my cab is 'minimoCE_0.2' it does work but is not that great im using opera again.... until something better comes along
your right it isn`t that great but it`s only a beta, give it time !
I don't know if it's a setting I have missed or something but the Opera browser doesn't seem to accept touch screen input.
Is this right?
I have removed it in favour of IE atm
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I don't know if it's a setting I have missed or something but the Opera browser doesn't seem to accept touch screen input.
Is this right?
I have removed it in favour of IE atm
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in the options uncheck the grab option.
Whilst we're talking about Opera, there's a little thing I've been pondering.
Why do developers of Mobile browsers find it so difficult to integrate flash support?
Surely even if there isn't a dedicated flash player for this platform there's some way that the browser could detect if a flash format needs processing and converting. As far as I know the Firefox browser built into the EEE pc's xandros OS does this.
At no point do any drivers need installing. Even Stage6 files are converted and streamed without needing to install the web player.
anyone know of any full featured web browsers for hd2? I've searched google and can't find any that feel right.
post here the browsers that you use/have and their features. thanks
try UC Browser. I have used it for a while now and it totally replaced my opera app.
quitti said:
try UC Browser. I have used it for a while now and it totally replaced my opera app.
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There are also Netfront, Dorothy and Uzard.
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There are also Netfront, Dorothy and Uzard.
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I've tried dorothy and Uzard..
Generally Netfront isn't bad. The problem is it suffers from some strange out of memory error on certain pages. It's strange because in earlier versions (back in 2007/2008) this wasn't the case. But I think its worth a try nonetheless.
anyone know of any more? this can't be it
Hm I think that's it. I mean if you count them you will realise that you have the choice out of 6 different browsers. That's not really bad for a platform like Windows Mobile which isn't supported anymore.
Oh wait, we forgot opera mini. That would mean 7.
i wonder how Long until google chrome for winmo comes out?
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i wonder how Long until google chrome for winmo comes out?
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For Windows Mobile probably never. Development has more or less stopped since it's a dead os. Maybe for Windows Phone 7.
i wish they would put out an update for wm 6.5 -> 7
And I wish they would dispose of WP7 and restart to develop Windows Mobile.
amen to that one
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And I wish they would dispose of WP7 and restart to develop Windows Mobile.
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Microsoft won't ever go back
Windows mobile was very open as far as what you could run on it, making it difficult to lock it down like android, wp7 or ios.
These companies are interested in making people have to buy all software to run on the device from their store
That's why I wont get WP7. I mean I hate google but in the end android is the only os for smartphones that is at least open to some extent.
Q: New Problem with Opera 9.7 Accessing m.facebook.com
Opera 9.7 was included in the ROM that I'm currently using and has worked fine with everything, except for the mobile Facebook site (m.facebook.com) within the last 2 weeks (FB must be changing things again ).
It will not allow me to access anything except to update my own status. Clicking on any link to view comments, photos, etc. (whether they're friends or my own) results in an error message saying that the page is not accessible at the moment or I do not have the proper permissions. Is there another version of Opera that will work?
Internet Explorer works OK, but the font in the already small comments box is so freakin' tiny, it makes having to use it a total PITA. I've been using FIM v2.8 for mostly everything, but viewing photos on it is difficult (since the photo size is un-scalable) and I can't copy/paste with FIM.
Any help with a browser replacement (Opera upgrade?), that will make the mobile FB site usable for me again, will be greatly appreciated! [I despise the official FB application and avoid it like the plague. There's no chance they will ever improve it for Windows Mobile, anyway.]
EDIT: Downloaded Opera Mini 5 and Opera 10; decided to try Mini 1st... What an improvement! The FB mobile site now works as it should.
Haven't tried 10 yet, but didn't I read something somewhere that people found that the zoom bar no longer works in that version? I may give it a go at some point, but for right now, I'm happy with Mini 5!
Thanks everyone!
Debbie
Why don't you try the final release of Opera 10? Opera 9.7 is really outdated. OK, 10 is old too but it's as recent as it gets on WM.
opera mini
opera mini, the fastest & best websurfing software.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/hp-touchpad-will-receive-ota-udpate-for-added-functionality/
HP may have abandoned the TouchPad, but that apparently won't stop the company from issuing a post-mortem OTA update for its webOS tablet. Yesterday, an HP spokesperson confirmed to CNET that "HP TouchPad owners can look forward to an over-the-air update that will enhance the platform and add functionality and a growing applications catalog." The rep didn't offer any specifics, but reaffirmed that HP remains "fully committed to the ongoing support and service of customers who purchased webOS devices." The news comes on the heels of a Quickoffice HD update that dropped yesterday, and at a time when TouchPads are selling like hotcakes -- which probably explains HP's decision to issue a tweak. Indeed, the company went on to say that it's seen "huge spikes in activations and between 3-5X downloads of apps," since the TouchPad fire sale first launched.
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[Q] New Touchpad OTA update safe?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20099049-64/hp-update-to-boost-touchpad-functionality/
Doesn't say exactly when this update will be available. Is it safe to assume that we shouldn't accept the update, if given the option, if we're planning on eventually flashing Android port?
Good question.
I was also wondering if the folks who actually wanted to stay with web os, will the homebrew patches and kernel have to be re-written to work on the updated firmware?
Given that it just says "a future update" with not even a vague indication of *when* that might be, I don't think it's something that we should fret over for now
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Good question.
I was also wondering if the folks who actually wanted to stay with web os, will the homebrew patches and kernel have to be re-written to work on the updated firmware?
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it depends how drastic the changes are.. i have a feeling the update won't be anything major...
This isn't iOS. The updates don't ever do anything in theory to close down the OS, other than required security hole fixes. Anything you could do prior to the update, you can do after. The webOS doctor is what is probably going to become hijacked for allowing Android installations, and this in theory, will never stop working. Remember, we have always been able to recover a "bricked" device through the webOS Doctor; unlike the many other platforms available. Also, it has been close to 2 years since we had to remove all patches prior to updating. I'd suggest waiting 24 hours, if you can, to verify. Patches and homebrew should not be broken in the update.
One thing they should fix is the browser. Upgrade their libraries up to the level Honeycomb 3.2 or iOS 5 (all of which is open source) to improve the performance (especially JavaScript) and support more HTML5 standards (like SVG). They should also allow users to modify their user agent string to the iPad UA via a hack, so all tablet-oriented websites display as they are meant to.
Although the Touchpad browser is not horrible, it could do a lot better compared to the Android and iOS browsers which are based on WebKit as well. Having an awesome browser could give this tablet much more life while just running webOS with web apps!
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One thing they should fix is the browser. Upgrade their libraries up to the level Honeycomb 3.2 or iOS 5 (all of which is open source) to improve the performance (especially JavaScript) and support more HTML5 standards (like SVG). They should also allow users to modify their user agent string to the iPad UA via a hack, so all tablet-oriented websites display as they are meant to.
Although the Touchpad browser is not horrible, it could do a lot better compared to the Android and iOS browsers which are based on WebKit as well. Having an awesome browser could give this tablet much more life while just running webOS with web apps!
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I feel this brower is just as good if not better than the android browser. I had issues with some links and pages on my android tablet but they work perfect on my touchpad
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i imagine the update will bring things like a native ebook reader or an updated marketplace, nothing radical like a fully skinned version of honeycomb
I too hope for some improvements to the browser, there are a few issues with it, nothing tragic but irritating enough at times.
OTA Update = Android Honeycomb?
Maybe????
It could happen.
(I'm such a troll today)
maybe we will get more than a ota, maybe actual support for webos.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/30/hp-may-resurrect-touchpad-head-of-pc-business-says/
Basic first.
Sound loss and Wifi problems.
Now if we want to go Fancy.
Rotation while playing phone apps is always portrait.
Youtube full screen is up side down (if using a case)
speed up calendar.
speed up photo "fine" loading.
browser minor issues.
Cursor issues.
Do not accept. If they are designing the Android for 3.0.2 then leave it. It's only a matter of a Week before an Alpha is available from Cyanogen.
Android, that way they can collect the $1600. Hell, they have to make back the stock money they lost somehow
I'm thinking the OTA will just be Homebrew/Preware kind of stuff and maybe some new apps.
However, a tabbed browser and a VNC client that works would make me really happy.
Don't Know why people knock the browser. I feel that the WebOS browser is honestly the best mobile browser I have EVER used functionality wise... Never before on a tablet or tablet-like device have I not had to fiddle with user-agent settings and such to get where I need to go... So far only one site has failed on the Touchpad... Hulu, And we all know why that doesn't work...
Other Note: I would laugh if the OTA was just to pre-install preware and homebrew ability... (although it would be a BIG smack in the face of apple, Who leaves their old products to rot instead of supporting them like HP has so far.)
Then again, I find WebOS in general to be the best Mobile OS ever made, And also the best Mobile OS killed before its time...
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Don't Know why people knock the browser. I feel that the WebOS browser is honestly the best mobile browser I have EVER used functionality wise... Never before on a tablet or tablet-like device have I not had to fiddle with user-agent settings and such to get where I need to go... So far only one site has failed on the Touchpad... Hulu, And we all know why that doesn't work...
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The caching issues make browsing forums a nightmare.
Also, Gmail doesn't work in the browser.
c01e said:
Don't Know why people knock the browser. I feel that the WebOS browser is honestly the best mobile browser I have EVER used functionality wise... Never before on a tablet or tablet-like device have I not had to fiddle with user-agent settings and such to get where I need to go... So far only one site has failed on the Touchpad... Hulu, And we all know why that doesn't work...
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I have to agree that functionally, it's an excellent browser. It's just that internally (performance en compatibility with technologies) it's not quite as great as Safari in iOS 4 or the Honeycomb browser. Check this link to see what I mean.
The reason why it's important is that by the end of the year all webOS support for native apps will have definitely dried up, which means that webOS users will have to rely on web apps. Web apps can be freaking amazing if the browser supports the latest technology and has good JavaScript performance. Although the Touchpad is not bad there, it should be doable for HP to update its performance and compatibility to the level of iOS 5.
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The caching issues make browsing forums a nightmare.
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+ 1 trying to browse forums can be terrible. Constantly have to use the refresh button.
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I've dreamed of having this on a tablet ever since they came out. I cannot believe iOS got this before any Android implementation, Cornerstone is ok, but this beats it hands down!!!
http://thebigboss.org/quasar-a-window-manager-for-ipad?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=quasar-a-window-manager-for-ipad
that isnt even true multitasking. you see they dont have a video playing in one window while browsing in another. all it is is opening up different windows. the other windows stop loading or doing whatever as you open a new one.
i can do all of that and more easily on just a rooted prime with stickit floating media player and overskreeen floating browser. On android it will be true multitasking because all things are going at the same time , all on the screen at once. ex. i could open up overskreen browser to browse xda. then i can open up multiple movies or vids with stickit and have them playing. then i can open up Facebook app and browse the app. i can have all that on my screen going on at once. one doesn't pause for the other action. so ill have my movies playing and watching them in a resize able window while looking at Facebook while also looking at xda in the overskreen browser. this is all at the same time, on the same screen, in real time. no slowdown or anything what so ever. i can even open up multiple browser pages and have them in their own individual windows if i want.
plus thats not an ios feature. thats something developers from cydia implemented. cydia isnt even supported by apple. jailbreak(isnt supported by apple also) is required to get cydia. then this app is in cydia. it looks cool but more of an illusion of multitasking. id say cornerstone blows this away or even what i described i use because what android does is true multitasking. on ios its not.
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that isnt even true multitasking. you see they dont have a video playing in one window while browsing in another. all it is is opening up different windows. the other windows stop loading or doing whatever as you open a new one.
i can do all of that and more easily on just a rooted prime with stickit floating media player and overskreeen floating browser. On android it will be true multitasking because all things are going at the same time , all on the screen at once. ex. i could open up overskreen browser to browse xda. then i can open up multiple movies or vids with stickit and have them playing. then i can open up Facebook app and browse the app. i can have all that on my screen going on at once. one doesn't pause for the other action. so ill have my movies playing and watching them in a resize able window while looking at Facebook while also looking at xda in the overskreen browser. this is all at the same time, on the same screen, in real time. no slowdown or anything what so ever. i can even open up multiple browser pages and have them in their own individual windows if i want.
plus thats not an ios feature. thats something developers from cydia implemented. cydia isnt even supported by apple. jailbreak(isnt supported by apple also) is required to get cydia. then this app is in cydia. it looks cool but more of an illusion of multitasking. id say cornerstone blows this away or even what i described i use because what android does is true multitasking. on ios its not.
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I know this is a jailbreak tweak and not supported by Apple, this is a given with any tweaks like this. However, I will agree with you on the pausing of 'windowed' apps, not ideal at all. And using Overskreen, and / or airterm is great, but they are app specific. Cydias implementation, while not perfect, is still pretty nice to have any app windowed so you can have info displayed any where then just switch over to have it update, yes ideally they would keep running in windowed mode, but I feel this is still a nice feature to have as you can have info displayed in say Facebook, and then have twitter in another window if you want to use some FB info to post an update to twitter and need to see both at once.
I'm still waiting for Android to get a windowed implementation where you can, much like Overskreen or airterm, but have any app go into 'windowed' mode to fullscreen seemlessly, allowing you to choose what suits your needs at the time. For me this would pretty much seal the deal as Android being the clear winner for a tablet OS( in my mind it already is light years ahead of iOS in everything other than the 'polish' of apps being developed for iOS, but that's just an issue with sheer number of 'established' devs giving iOS more priority over Android, and the fact that it's easier to develop for a known set of hardware Vs. the array of HW available for Android ) ... Even with that Android is obviously better, especially if you're a power user.
Anyways, this post wasn't a supposed to be a dis on Android, just more of a "I want, I want.." kinda post.
Yeah, come back when iPad can do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S65h7cT0bo
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Yeah, come back when iPad can do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S65h7cT0bo
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Like I stated, I know the Prime is a much better device, and can handle a ton more, just a feature "wish we had it" post.
RubenRybnik said:
I know this is a jailbreak tweak and not supported by Apple, this is a given with any tweaks like this. However, I will agree with you on the pausing of 'windowed' apps, not ideal at all. And using Overskreen, and / or airterm is great, but they are app specific. Cydias implementation, while not perfect, is still pretty nice to have any app windowed so you can have info displayed any where then just switch over to have it update, yes ideally they would keep running in windowed mode, but I feel this is still a nice feature to have as you can have info displayed in say Facebook, and then have twitter in another window if you want to use some FB info to post an update to twitter and need to see both at once.
I'm still waiting for Android to get a windowed implementation where you can, much like Overskreen or airterm, but have any app go into 'windowed' mode to fullscreen seemlessly, allowing you to choose what suits your needs at the time. For me this would pretty much seal the deal as Android being the clear winner for a tablet OS( in my mind it already is light years ahead of iOS in everything other than the 'polish' of apps being developed for iOS, but that's just an issue with sheer number of 'established' devs giving iOS more priority over Android, and the fact that it's easier to develop for a known set of hardware Vs. the array of HW available for Android ) ... Even with that Android is obviously better, especially if you're a power user.
Anyways, this post wasn't a supposed to be a dis on Android, just more of a "I want, I want.." kinda post.
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i agree. i want any app to be able to be windowed. Maybe those developers will make something that can do that. they seem to be the only developers, creators of stickit & overskreen, that seem to be going in that direction. the people from tablified app also created a floating messaging client. so its only a matter of time before more n more apps will be able to be windowed just like on a PC. thats why i love overskreen, stickit, aircalc, & floating air terminal so much.
Oh god here we go. ****storm imminent. Massive buttrage incoming. FLAME WAR HAS BEEN IGNITED I REPEAT FLAMEWAR HAS BEEN IGNITED.
But, the ipad's gonna have a monster log load of compatibility problems with that because apple locks down their stuff so it's going to be insanely hard to adapt screen sizes especially because there is little variation in resolution for ios devices. For android, this is much easier because you've got devices from 320x240 all the way to the upcoming 1920x1200 tablets.
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They make this operating system called "Windows". I suggest you check it out.
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Cydia is a nice touch to ios. Makes my iPhone somwhat bearable.
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/me really hopes they can get this to work in all apps.
lol are they just now getting widgets???
Add more ram to the Android tablet realm then this would be more advantageous. Sure for simple tasks like Facebook, twitter, one tab browser, just small stuff, the prime would be able to handle all at once. But add in YouTube, more tabs in browser, a game, then bam, where's my ram?
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Add more ram to the Android tablet realm then this would be more advantageous. Sure for simple tasks like Facebook, twitter, one tab browser, just small stuff, the prime would be able to handle all at once. But add in YouTube, more tabs in browser, a game, then bam, where's my ram?
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I'm not sure how you have missed this as it was posted ~5198298 times, but how about 15 vids at once on the ram it has now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S65h7cT0bo
Screwedupsmitty said:
I'm not sure how you have missed this as it was posted ~5198298 times, but how about 15 vids at once on the ram it has now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S65h7cT0bo
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This is what I'm talking about, 15 vids at once. I believe we have enough ram to make a feasible implementation, I personally am not looking to have even 4 or 5 intensive apps running windowed, but having my RSS reader, a terminal, a video and a 'casual' game def. seems doable to me.
I stand corrected. Just tried leaving real racing 2, browser and YouTube in memory but I still have roughly over 100mb free.
With 6 tabs open on all flash intensive sites did I start to near the limit. (+ the real racing &, youtube)
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we already have the source code for android for windowed apps. it just needs to be included into roms. but that is no easy task. so apple is actually late in the game.
i for one would like to see tiling window-managers on android, since i am a tfp+dock user.
So you guys really want development to spiral in the direction of "windowed" apps? Didn't you purchase Android products for an alternative for Windows? Honestly, if it heads in that direction, you're going to just eventually have a slow bulky java app and you'll be begging for the next Tech powerhouse to design another OS as an alternative...
Jeesh...
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Ever heard of Linux
Many flavors of Linux all have window based desktops available for years. Why would having this function on Android be any different.
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So you guys really want development to spiral in the direction of "windowed" apps? Didn't you purchase Android products for an alternative for Windows? Honestly, if it heads in that direction, you're going to just eventually have a slow bulky java app and you'll be begging for the next Tech powerhouse to design another OS as an alternative...
Jeesh...
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In what world is Android an alternative for Windows? You could say Mac, Linux, Unix, hell even Chrome desktop, but Android? I don't think so. Android is an alternative to iOS, Palm, Windows -Phone-, Blackberry OS, etc... but don't compare a mobile( phone and tablet ) OS as an alternative to a Desktop OS. And yes, if you added Windowing and a couple other features to Android, then, maybe, you could make that comparison, but saying that "you'll eventually have a slow bulky java app" just by adding a Window manager is not logical. Hell, if I run 2 instances of Crysis, while watching a move, torrenting and compiling a project Windows will get slow also, it's on the owner( or limiting number of windows apps, or some other preventitive method ) to keep your system running smooth.
That being said, Android as is, is great for most people, hell just keep using it that way, but isn't Android all about options and customizability? Why not allow people another option for those who know how to manage their systems and wont go loading 10 intensive apps at the same time, what the hell would you do with that many apps open anyways on such a small screen? Guess you could video out, but the resolution wouldn't be great anyways. I'd imagine this to be a very light weight window manager, for lightweight multitasking, not for playing a tegra 3 game while listening to music and having 2 videos playing, lol.
Hi,
I like working on the website Codeacademy.com, and would love to do so on my android tablet (kindle HD), or even my phone (razr HD). However, every browser I've tried has had a terrible time with this website: browsers love to zoom in too closely when I start typing, they have trouble scolling in a text window within the main window, etc. (just try it, you'll see what I mean).
Does anyone have any suggestions for a browser that would fare better? Or perhaps dolphin has an add-on that would mitigate the problems? I have trouble believing that I'm the only one who likes to use this popular website on an android device.
Any help is appreciated.
EDIT: The kindle is restricted in its browsers by default, but I haven't had any trouble downloading apks and sideloading, so that's not a limitation to worry about.
Me too
I am looking for it too. It would be awesome if codecademy made an android app for its exercises
jwdink said:
Hi,
I like working on the website Codeacademy.com, and would love to do so on my android tablet (kindle HD), or even my phone (razr HD). However, every browser I've tried has had a terrible time with this website: browsers love to zoom in too closely when I start typing, they have trouble scolling in a text window within the main window, etc. (just try it, you'll see what I mean).
Does anyone have any suggestions for a browser that would fare better? Or perhaps dolphin has an add-on that would mitigate the problems? I have trouble believing that I'm the only one who likes to use this popular website on an android device.
Any help is appreciated.
EDIT: The kindle is restricted in its browsers by default, but I haven't had any trouble downloading apks and sideloading, so that's not a limitation to worry about.
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I've tried it too and it's very frustrating. Thanks for mentioning CodeAcademy since I only knew about it since I read your post
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dncjor said:
I am looking for it too. It would be awesome if codecademy made an android app for its exercises
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Agreed-- though I feel like they shouldn't have to! This website isn't doing anything particularly advanced--it's just a text box to type in--and I feel like one of the myriad android browsers should be able to handle it. Especially since each one has a different unique problem with the website.
Okay, looks like Maxthon browser works tolerably well. Good browser overall, actually.
Jwdink,
Good to know Maxthon worked for you. I tested many, including Maxthon, and I always get the same problem.
When I click on the box to type, and try to move it up or down, everything goes white and I have to find the box again...
I tested with chrome, opera, firefox, dolphin, dolphin beta, and others less known browsers, and always the same problem happens
Now I'm gonna test with firefox beta..
I emailed codecademy some days ago concerning this matter but got no answer
Did you notice the site doesn't have a mobile version? Maybe if they can create one, it could fix the problem
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Okay, looks like Maxthon browser works tolerably well. Good browser overall, actually.
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Maxthon didn't fare to well for this task on my rooted Kindle Fire running Gingerbread .......I sometimes have success with the latest release of Firefox (not the nightly edition) but many times will have to refresh the page to get the coding input box to respond "halfway" normal.
Even on my Windows 7 laptop the site has issues and I've tried IE9 and the latest Chrome. Maybe I'll try Firefox on the laptop today. On the tablet I find myself reading the tutorial from the website on whatever browser I'm using but will not try to implement the code there. I'll just open up my good old text editor and code there using what I learned on the site and then run the code on "x" interpreter (in my case the Python) and it's much easier to do it that way.
When I have the lesson running correctly I will return to the website and "attempt" to complete it on there either possibly with Android Firefox or on the PC so it will keep track of my progress. Otherwise I would get WAY to frustrated trying to get every little step to run in the browser's input box!
And yes, a dedicated app for this website would be ideal
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Huh, sounds like this site just isn't designed to work on anything but a traditional PC... I wonder what the big difference is?
Codecademy answered my email. Here it is:
"Original message
DEC 31, 2012 | 07:17AM EST
Please, I am a codecademy student and want to ask if you have any recomendation for a good way of using the site on android devices, because it is very difficult to do the exercises on the browsers for android.
For me, and others users, like this guy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073107
and, I believe, many others students, it would be very very useful if you could make a codecademy app for android, where we could do the exercises.
Thanks for reading...
Douglas
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JAN 02, 2013 | 03:26AM EST
Linda replied:
Thanks for the nice feedback! Unfortunately we're at the moment focusing on the learning experience with desktops and laptops and support for mobile phones and tablets comes only later.
Linda
Customer Support
Codecademy"
I took the liberty of showing this xda topic to reinforce the importance of this matter for more than one student. And, as the topic had only a few comments when I wrote the email, "This guy", is you 'jwdink'
You could try Naked Browser, which till now has given me a cohesive desktop like interface,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fevdev.nakedbrowser&hl=en
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I don't think its very effective to work on codeacademy from your tablet especially if you aren't using a real keyboard. Codecademy has problems with browsers in osx and windows and I can't imagine how it would work on a tablet which browsers that do much less. Codecademy gives me issues everytime I use it, some courses are sometimes impossible to complete unless codecademy themselves fixes them. Python last summer was uncompletable due to weird errors which tooks weeks to fix.
Also, something you should be doing is after you complete courses, go make something with your newly gained knowledge. I can go through every single course in there and might not have a full understanding without actually making something, plus, you have to get used to dealing with the unexpected because everytime you code, theres going to be some problem. You can't code much things comfortably in Android either, at least I haven't been able to.
Try using ucbrowser.
I've tried Firefox, dolphin, boat and maxthon but for me uc browser works best. I'm talking about web browsing in general, uc browser is my pick for mobile web browsing. I've never visited code academy on ucbrowser though. Give it a shot
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Foxfire & disable autocorrect/autocomplete
To use codecademy on my rooted Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (n8013) tablet I used Foxfire (stable or beta) browser and I disabled the keyboard's autocorrection/autofill/autocapitalization functionalities.
Tested but couldn't use stock browser, Chrome, Dolphin and Opera. Tested but couldn't use Swype keyboard and Google downloadable keyboard. Something weird happens connected to the shift key.
Should say my Samsung's running stock (Cyanagenmod) Android 4.2.2, no bloatware. Don't know if that matters or not.
Espier Browser
Have you tried Espier Browser? I just tried it and I could resolve 2 python exercices successfully
thetearer said:
Try using ucbrowser.
I've tried Firefox, dolphin, boat and maxthon but for me uc browser works best. I'm talking about web browsing in general, uc browser is my pick for mobile web browsing. I've never visited code academy on ucbrowser though. Give it a shot
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Thanks, uc browser seems to be the best for codecademy, I have tried almost all the browsers named in this thread an with uc browser on android 2.1 all works fine to me.
luisfmp said:
Thanks, uc browser seems to be the best for codecademy, I have tried almost all the browsers named in this thread an with uc browser on android 2.1 all works fine to me.
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Hey,
Im trying to use codecademy and khanacademy.org but im using a Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet (stock rom). Ive tried UC browser as well as many others (chrome, naked, firefox, dolphin, maxthon, boat, maybe more) with no luck. Code isnt selectable or pastable, and sometimes i cant even delete.
I dont have access to a computer at the moment and would really like to take advantage of the interactive tutorials on those sites. I even bought a mouse thinking it would make text selection easy but i now realise android mouse support is lame and just emulates a finger.
If anyone has any solution for this, please let me know.
jwdink said:
Hi,
I like working on the website Codeacademy.com, and would love to do so on my android tablet (kindle HD), or even my phone (razr HD). However, every browser I've tried has had a terrible time with this website: browsers love to zoom in too closely when I start typing, they have trouble scolling in a text window within the main window, etc. (just try it, you'll see what I mean).
Does anyone have any suggestions for a browser that would fare better? Or perhaps dolphin has an add-on that would mitigate the problems? I have trouble believing that I'm the only one who likes to use this popular website on an android device.
Any help is appreciated.
EDIT: The kindle is restricted in its browsers by default, but I haven't had any trouble downloading apks and sideloading, so that's not a limitation to worry about.
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Hello jwdink,
Thank you for asking this question almost two years ago. Like you, I recently stumbled across the delimma of learning to code at codeacademy.com with my nextbook tablet device.
The solution that works perfectly for me is to request the desktop version of the web browser.
A quick review of the steps involved (Recent Google chrome at time of writing):
Click the menu button
Select "Request desktop site"
The page will reload automatically to a closer version of codeacademy that you are familiar with on the desktop site.
Yuki
Yhurp
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Yuki Tow SvC App said:
Hello jwdink,
Thank you for asking this question almost two years ago. Like you, I recently stumbled across the delimma of learning to code at codeacademy.com with my nextbook tablet device.
The solution that works perfectly for me is to request the desktop version of the web browser.
A quick review of the steps involved (Recent Google chrome at time of writing):
Click the menu button
Select "Request desktop site"
The page will reload automatically to a closer version of codeacademy that you are familiar with on the desktop site.
Yuki
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Thanks so much, currently on my Samsung Tab S 10.5 with a logitech keyboard, and works extremely well with codecademy now