That sounds like I'm being a prick but I'm just trying to learn. I didn't find what I was looking for on Google but a friend suggested xda. I'm coming from a nexus and my wife has the iphone4. Now the I4 is a "retina display" with many more pixels than android phones and its I will concede that I can't see a pixel on its screen. As far as text and application icons and any lines in the UI, they are like nothing I've seen from a phone or even a desktop. I find it troubling that we haven't heard rumors about nice displays for upcoming androids. But the vibrant has a superamoled, what I do know is that I can easily see pixels in every image I look at, but android phones like this are at most just 800x480 so I guess its a given that the UI and text and lines and images in all applications will be fuzzy? And so where does the Super come in to play? Contrary to what i was told the vibrants display definitely doesn't look any better than my nexus which isn't really bad because the nexus absolutely has a respectable display. The one difference I've seen is that avatar looks very good on the vibrant. I had avatar downloaded on my nexus it was a 720p version and it became pixelated with lots of movement. Not so the vibrant. I noticed the vibrant skips or sort of hiccups during heavy action scenes which I'm guessing is reflective of the processor? But the picture looks good. So is superamoled strictly for media? I guess if it had decent resolution the UI would look slick like the iphone4 regardless the display being amoled samoled lcd slcd or whatever right? So i shouldnt expect that the SAMOLED is supposed to make the UI in general look particularly good is that correct? I realize it seems dumb but the only thing that looks a bit better than my old nexus is watching certain movies. The vibrant has a great processor and a super amoled. Can anyone explain some of the practical benefits of the vibrants hardware?
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That sounds like I'm being a prick but I'm just trying to learn. I didn't find what I was looking for on Google but a friend suggested xda. I'm coming from a nexus and my wife has the iphone4. Now the I4 is a "retina display" with many more pixels than android phones and its I will concede that I can't see a pixel on its screen. As far as text and application icons and any lines in the UI, they are like nothing I've seen from a phone or even a desktop. I find it troubling that we haven't heard rumors about nice displays for upcoming androids. But the vibrant has a superamoled, what I do know is that I can easily see pixels in every image I look at, but android phones like this are at most just 800x480 so I guess its a given that the UI and text and lines and images in all applications will be fuzzy? And so where does the Super come in to play? Contrary to what i was told the vibrants display definitely doesn't look any better than my nexus which isn't really bad because the nexus absolutely has a respectable display. The one difference I've seen is that avatar looks very good on the vibrant. I had avatar downloaded on my nexus it was a 720p version and it became pixelated with lots of movement. Not so the vibrant. I noticed the vibrant skips or sort of hiccups during heavy action scenes which I'm guessing is reflective of the processor? But the picture looks good. So is superamoled strictly for media? I guess if it had decent resolution the UI would look slick like the iphone4 regardless the display being amoled samoled lcd slcd or whatever right? So i shouldnt expect that the SAMOLED is supposed to make the UI in general look particularly good is that correct? I realize it seems dumb but the only thing that looks a bit better than my old nexus is watching certain movies. The vibrant has a great processor and a super amoled. Can anyone explain some of the practical benefits of the vibrants hardware?
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samoled is better than the iphone 4's retina display. its about the screen technology. its colors and the way it looks in direct sunlight,looks better than the n1 & i4. although the i4 has a higher res doesnt eqaute to a better screen. vibrant has a better gpu than the i4 and better than any android out. the hardware on the vibrant is ahead of its time. 45n processor, 90million triangles per second by the gpu. all in all retina display focuses on pixels, while super amoled focuses on color and qaulity. vibrant and the galaxy s line are the best phones out hardware wise. not software wise. and by that i mean touchwiz and that rfs system.
I haven't been able to find any hardware specs...is the SAMOLED capable of higher resolution?
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I haven't been able to find any hardware specs...is the SAMOLED capable of higher resolution?
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http://www.google.com/m?gl=us&sourc...moled&ei=je3WTLDFN5yoqAPPxc5y&ved=0CEEQ1QIoBw
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Lol
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samoled is better than the iphone 4's retina display. its about the screen technology. its colors and the way it looks in direct sunlight,looks better than the n1 & i4. although the i4 has a higher res doesnt eqaute to a better screen. vibrant has a better gpu than the i4 and better than any android out. the hardware on the vibrant is ahead of its time. 45n processor, 90million triangles per second by the gpu. all in all retina display focuses on pixels, while super amoled focuses on color and qaulity. vibrant and the galaxy s line are the best phones out hardware wise. not software wise. and by that i mean touchwiz and that rfs system.
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Thanks, it a shame the pixels are so noticeable and blurry. This phones got hardware that could've kept me happy for at least a couple years. I watch a decent amount of media so I appreciate that aspect of the hardware. But even more I'm using the UI and the browesr and constantly seeing my wife's I4 really makes the fuzziness of the vibrant stand out. Samsung has media well in hand but everything revolves around the UI so persoanlly I'm impatiently waiting for a crisp I4-like UI. I would imagine higher Res is on deck, 800x480 has been done to death. I'm glad the iPhone exists be wise the competition benefits us, I just hate this period of waiting to catch up with what I consider a major portion of the OS. Especially since I use my wife's phone so often (T-Mobile doesn't work in many places like att does) its tough going from the iPhones perfect lines to my jagged blurry ones. But like I've read other people here explain., I'd have no idea how bad 800x480 is if I hadn't seen the 960x640 retina display. So really its my wife's fault : )
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Thanks, it a shame the pixels are so noticeable and blurry. This phones got hardware that could've kept me happy for at least a couple years. I watch a decent amount of media so I appreciate that aspect of the hardware. But even more I'm using the UI and the browesr and constantly seeing my wife's I4 really makes the fuzziness of the vibrant stand out. Samsung has media well in hand but everything revolves around the UI so persoanlly I'm impatiently waiting for a crisp I4-like UI. I would imagine higher Res is on deck, 800x480 has been done to death. I'm glad the iPhone exists be wise the competition benefits us, I just hate this period of waiting to catch up with what I consider a major portion of the OS. Especially since I use my wife's phone so often (T-Mobile doesn't work in many places like att does) its tough going from the iPhones perfect lines to my jagged blurry ones. But like I've read other people here explain., I'd have no idea how bad 800x480 is if I hadn't seen the 960x640 retina display. So really its my wife's fault : )
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samoled is an interesting tradeoff. for people that really like video and media, the sgs line is spectacular.
no offense to the guy that says, "samoled is better than retina" but... really? its glaringly obvious that text is blurry/less crisp on amoled and samoled displays. most people might not see this, but for those of us with good eyes it sticks out like a sore thumb.
the display on the motorola droid, iphone 4 and the new slcd's from htc are a lot more readable. sure, you dont have the fake ass super contrast that samsung is giving you, but its MUCH crisper. there is a superb article on arstechnica that points out the flaws of amoled displays.
all that said, i don't mind samoled on my samsung focus. i just don't go out and bash the iphone because it makes me feel better about my purchase. the display apple put on the iphone is an industry marvel, and if it was on an android phone everyone would be talking **** on apple instead of downplaying it. its so tiring reading these weak ass posts. have a good day
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if we get androids gingerbread this is what i heard.
"New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher".
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if we get androids gingerbread this is what i heard.
"New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher".
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our device isn't capable of that resolution. that would be for newer phones lol.
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our device isn't capable of that resolution. that would be for newer phones lol.
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oh ok thats just what i heard. hopefully we can get froyo soon or they should jump to the gingerbread update and skip froyo lol. just coming from the mytouch 4g with 2.2 froyo big difference for me from this 2.1 and the lag on this phone is a joke. but i did use the lag fix which helped a bit.
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Has anyone else seen the iphone 4 commercial saying the screen is the highest resolution screen ever on a phone?
I thought the vibrant had a better screen? It definitely looks better than the iphone four though.
The iPhone 4 does have the highest resolution ever. Samsung claims that the SAMOLED screens have better viewing angles and all that ****. Its really just what u think overall I guess.
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The pixels and the screen size on the iphone 4 have a better looking screen while the vibrant has a bigger screen but lesser pixels so yeah the iphone 4 screen is better but iOS sucks =]
the iPhone 4 has a 3.5 inch LCD screen has a resolution of 960 x 640
the vibrant has a 4 inch S-AMOLED screen that has a resolution of 800 x 480
the S-AMOLED screen displays colors clearer and truer and is easier to see in the sun, the iPhone 4 has an insane pixel density that makes things look cleaner
its a matter of preference really once you let an iPhone 4 owner watch Avatar on your vibrant they will be extremely jealous
That's pretty surprising.
The kid with the iphone 4 finally got pissed at me and quoted the commercial lmao.
But I still think the vibrant looks cleaner plus bigger screen=better.
We compared angry birds visuals on lowest brightness. I won
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The pixels and the screen size on the iphone 4 have a better looking screen while the vibrant has a bigger screen but lesser pixels so yeah the iphone 4 screen is better but iOS sucks =]
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"Better looking screen"?! Are you for real?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=xiO3s8NdQ34&v=xiO3s8NdQ34&gl=US
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ive compared the I4 and Vibrant tirelessly after seeing my friends I4. I was blown away and confused by how good the I4 OS looks, its pretty shocking because there is nothing else like it, at least in the domestic mobile device arena. I was actually pissed off that my vibrant looked so much fuzzier, i almost stopped using it and just pulled out my old nexus I was so bummed.
But after I looked into it further it became clear that the I4's visual advantage is limited to the OS, which is definitely important but it doesnt include media, so the Vibrant's samoled does have an advantage in that department. Also, I think the I4 is much easier to see in daylight, the Vibrant is somewhat better than than the Nexus, which is virtually invisible under the sun, but the Vibrant is still no treat to use outside.
The I4 is far and away better looking as far as the operating system which basically includes all lines; apps and their icons, text, the browser, you cant see pixels, its not even close. Also, the old and new Iphones alike scroll without blurring like Android does (I believe its because of GPU acceleration which, if Im not mistaken, Android will add with Gingerbread?), it keeps its resolution while scrolling which makes a big difference visually, particularly in the browser. With Android phones, once you are pressing the screen to scroll in the browser, you can see a huge difference between pressing and not pressing, as soon as you let up the screen goes back to its optimal quality. But the Vibrant absolutely looks better with all media.
I4 has more pixels on a smaller screen with crazy pixel density, so that part really cant be personal preference, unless you prefer fuzzier lines/text. But it is relative, if the I4 didnt exist I would be wild for the Vibrants screen in media and the OS alike. But the I4 obviously has a better look in the OS alone, but not media.
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That's pretty surprising.
The kid with the iphone 4 finally got pissed at me and quoted the commercial lmao.
But I still think the vibrant looks cleaner plus bigger screen=better.
We compared angry birds visuals on lowest brightness. I won
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Comparing Angry Birds is a bad comparison - the iPhone version is not optimized for the iPhone4 display, I don't think. It's a lower resolution than the Android version.
Retina display has higher pixel density, and you have to try real hard to distinguish between the pixels, however if you put two screens together and just look at them without digging your nose into your phone you can hardly see that SAMOLED is a bit washed out compared to the Retina, but once you fire up a high quality video SAMOLED will take it any day due to its brightness and dynamic contrast. I do think colors on Sammy are over saturated like with almost all of their LCD/LED panels.
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the iPhone 4 has a 3.5 inch LCD screen has a resolution of 960 x 640
the vibrant has a 4 inch S-AMOLED screen that has a resolution of 800 x 480
the S-AMOLED screen displays colors clearer and truer and is easier to see in the sun, the iPhone 4 has an insane pixel density that makes things look cleaner
its a matter of preference really once you let an iPhone 4 owner watch Avatar on your vibrant they will be extremely jealous
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very true, my iphone 4 friends are jealous of my screen
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yeah the iphone 4 have a better screen when we are talking about pixels but when it comes to watching video files, there's no way any other phone will beat our super duper amoled screen.
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ive compared the I4 and Vibrant tirelessly after seeing my friends I4. I was blown away and confused by how good the I4 OS looks, its pretty shocking because there is nothing else like it, at least in the domestic mobile device arena. I was actually pissed off that my vibrant looked so much fuzzier, i almost stopped using it and just pulled out my old nexus I was so bummed.
But after I looked into it further it became clear that the I4's visual advantage is limited to the OS, which is definitely important but it doesnt include media, so the Vibrant's samoled does have an advantage in that department. Also, I think the I4 is much easier to see in daylight, the Vibrant is somewhat better than than the Nexus, which is virtually invisible under the sun, but the Vibrant is still no treat to use outside.
The I4 is far and away better looking as far as the operating system which basically includes all lines; apps and their icons, text, the browser, you cant see pixels, its not even close. Also, the old and new Iphones alike scroll without blurring like Android does (I believe its because of GPU acceleration which, if Im not mistaken, Android will add with Gingerbread?), it keeps its resolution while scrolling which makes a big difference visually, particularly in the browser. With Android phones, once you are pressing the screen to scroll in the browser, you can see a huge difference between pressing and not pressing, as soon as you let up the screen goes back to its optimal quality. But the Vibrant absolutely looks better with all media.
I4 has more pixels on a smaller screen with crazy pixel density, so that part really cant be personal preference, unless you prefer fuzzier lines/text. But it is relative, if the I4 didnt exist I would be wild for the Vibrants screen in media and the OS alike. But the I4 obviously has a better look in the OS alone, but not media.
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What are you talking about, I've used my phone in direct sunlight in the middle of the day and the screen is easily readable with MINIMUM brightness, unless your screen is dirty and is being extra reflective because of it, this screen works amazing in the sun, on full its clear even with glare
Also, my vibrant's browser does not blur, I just tested it for a goods few mins and no bluring at all
And lastly on discussion, the i4's screen resolution + the smaller size of the screen kinda makes you think its sharper but its a smaller screen...does a higher resolution help it at all? Do you see any distinguishable difference from a lower res screen?
The only advantage i4 has is how dim and how bright the display can get because its an lcd however super amoled wins overall
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Doesn't super-Amoled give a blueish tint on whites? on my i4 the browser sucks, it gives pattern checker board things when scrolling super fast, and on android i never got this.
IMHO overall the S-amoled is better, the colors are more vivid but it's funny how the maker of both displays is Samsung
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IMHO overall the S-amoled is better, the colors are more vivid but it's funny how the maker of both displays is Samsung
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Lol then samsung wins
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What are you talking about, I've used my phone in direct sunlight in the middle of the day and the screen is easily readable with MINIMUM brightness, unless your screen is dirty and is being extra reflective because of it, this screen works amazing in the sun, on full its clear even with glare
Also, my vibrant's browser does not blur, I just tested it for a goods few mins and no bluring at all
And lastly on discussion, the i4's screen resolution + the smaller size of the screen kinda makes you think its sharper but its a smaller screen...does a higher resolution help it at all? Do you see any distinguishable difference from a lower res screen?
The only advantage i4 has is how dim and how bright the display can get because its an lcd however super amoled wins overall
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I've had the blurry browser srolling on all my Google phones. Its more noticeable if you've used an iPhone for a while then used a Google phone for a while. Just go to this forum, and look at the arrows pointing right and the icons especially the envelopes to the left of the thread titles. Now slowly scroll, you'll notice the envelopes almost blinking, and the lines become jagged off and on. So when you scroll normally theres a subtle choppiness. But really its only annoying because iPhones don't do it they are smooth, I thinking its the gpu acceleration which we should have shortly. Android hadn't said why they have put off gpu acc so long. Or maqybe they have but I don't know about it. As far as sunlight it could he better but coming from a nexus I would say the vibrant is indeed a treat
I hope this isn't too off topic. I've over clocked and lag fixed my vibrant, I'm trying to show up this guy at my job that has iphone4 how do you run a benchmark test on iphone so we can compare? I'm at 1700 benchmark right now
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I hope this isn't too off topic. I've over clocked and lag fixed my vibrant, I'm trying to show up this guy at my job that has iphone4 how do you run a benchmark test on iphone so we can compare? I'm at 1700 benchmark right now
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There's linpack for iPhone, but it isn't made by the same company, so I am not sure how *valid* the comparison would be. There isn't really any universal benchmarking tools that exists on both platforms. So you are SOL at the moment.
Dunno why this turned into a iphone vs galaxy s post but here is a link for an unbiased view on both of these phones screens (scroll to bottom);
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s_vs_apple_iphone_4-review-500p3.php
Most people won't be able to tell the difference in my opinion. Now if you are blowing up pics and text you will probably will see the difference. The super amoled blew me away the first time I saw avatar on it, Iphone can't do that.
I know that there have already been posts about this but...... I played with my friends galaxy s - vodafone branded. Totally rubbish screen. Vibrant, oversaturated, and very very blurry - almost PSP screen blurry. It was awful, and text virtually unreadable. Then, both my parents got iPhone 4s. WOW. Screen is so sharp its beautiful. Atrix was looking great until I saw that it was RGBW rather than RGB. Why? Can anyone comment? Is it better/worse than galaxy s clarity wise? Better/worse than iPhone 4 clarity wise? Any photos MUCH appreciated. Thanks a lot
iPhone 4 > Motorola Atrix
iPhone 4 has a 3.5" screen with a resolution of 960 by 640.
Now this screen is just drop-dead gorgeous. And nobody can argue with that. It has a pixel density of 326 ppi. This is more than the human eye can see, and is thus named the 'Retina Display'
On the other hand, the Motorola Atrix is much newer and is running Android. It has a 540by 960 but a 4 inch display. This is considerably more blurry than the iPhone 4's display. It has a useless laptop dock but for $499 who will think to buy it?!?!?!?! It does not even have a proper OS on it!
Once you have used the iPhone 4 I can assure you that you will never return to the Motorola Atrix. Now if you are a gamer like me, then you need a good Applications Store. The Apple iPhone 4 has the Apple App Store with stunning applications with HD graphics. Whereas, the Motorola Atrix utilises the Android Market which has rubbish, useless, demo apps. The best application on the Android Market is probably Angry Birds, which has advertisements filling the screen and can become very buggy.
In conclusion, I believe that iPhone 4, albeit much older, is superior to the Motorola Atrix anyday. This shows how Apple remains victorious so far. Until the iPhone 5 is released.
Apple troll
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holy fanboy batman!
yes, the pixel density of the iphone4 is better, but i assure you it's not so great you can't see it.
Trolls Trolls
Deary me, another appolyte . iSheep these days....
You have a point with the retina display being a higher PPI. Wow. It took a genius to figure that out. I'm trying to find out how much better it is, and I really can't take a trolls word for it :/
DarkyHero,
I want to thank you, I have not had a good laugh all day until reading your post.
kartik50,
First off i'd recommend to not pay any attention to trolls with some agenda and half baked inaccurate ideas.
But, moving on, in my family we have the Galaxy S, Iphone 4 and I have the Atrix. I do find the Iphone screen to be very good, no question about it however I personally liked the Galaxy S screen better. But that was until I got my Atrix. It was then I noticed how over saturated the Galaxy S looked (and as you said a little blurry, but not by much) when putting them side by side. As far as what one out of the three are the best? I think its personal preference and all 3 (to me) look very good. I'd pick the screen of the iPhone4 1st then the Atrix second. The Atrix is very sharp and clear and I'm having no complaints.
As far as the obvious far from fact-based claim from DarkyHero about the app market on Android.. I'm sure you recognize a troll for what they are.
I guess my eyes are just weird then. My freind standing right next to me, couldn't see any of the issues I could with the Galaxy s screen. We only looked at the Touchwiz Ui 3.0 text. However, iPhone blows me away. I have a 3GS right now, so I hope that the Atrix is far far superior. On a side note, Atrix vs Xperia Play? Both on Orange Uk, update months overdue.......
iPhone 4 wins as far as displays go. There isn't another mobile device on the market with a better screen. The Atrix has the best looking screen of any Android device, unless of course you like the oversaturated samsung super amoleds. The only use case where the Atrix's screen falls short is when brightness is cranked up to max, but there is honestly no need to do this unless you are trying to look at your phone in direct sun light.
I wish we were able to save you before the Apple troll showed up. Anyway.
iPhone 4 does have a beautiful screen, however, this 3.5" screen is way too small to enjoy. Once you try a +4" screen, you won't ever go back. Moreover, Atrix has the same footprint of iPhone 4, so you won't notice any extra bulk with the significantly bigger screen.
qHD is almost same as iPhone 4's screen resolution, so there should be no worries there either. As a matter of fact, given the widescreen you'll find on the Atrix, you'll see more pixels of your movies than you normally would on iPhone 4's square-ish display.
A BIG difference between iPhone 4 and Atrix is the dual-core Cortex A9-based Tegra 2 processor; you'll get a seemless FULL DESKTOP experience when browsing the web. With Opera Mobile 11, you'll be able to have iPhone-smoothness as well.
In response to darkyhero.
Is this a serious post? Or are you just this big of an idiot? The iTurd does not have a retina display, it was just marketing hype.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/iphone-4-retina/
I one minute Google search found this.
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wow!
Something tells me dhero has never used an atrix, been an android power user, played starfox 64 on their atrix with a wiimote, or understood the walled garden of apple's for what it is: a fortress of steve jobs devoid of hacking(the good kind), pornography, and meant for people of all ages, like the 13 year old darky hero here. Judging by your blind optimism for iOS and writing, maybe steve jobs was on the money making a sanitized kids toy. Oh wait its not a kids toy it shatters like a wine glass from 4 feet. Ok, I guess he just wants your money. Every year. You cannot even swap the damn batteries out, my last smartphone lasted me 3 years with 4 batteries. And yes it got five days of solid use with an extended battery...
Ugh don’t get me started on apple and their financial brilliance(their financial success often comes at the cost of their customers, *cough* apple tax *cough*).
So - clarity wise can anyone say its better than SGS? Also- I just saw a review from PhoneDog saying that Nexus S>Atrix? WTF? I mean lag lag lag lag thats all the Atrix was doing? I know there arent any custom roms - Damn you motorola! - but will there be fixes? I know what its like to get a cutting edge phone that became obsolete (samsung Tocco). BTW u guys reply FAST. Thanks!
Definitely. SGS has a 480x800 sceen. Clarity will definitely be better than that.
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So - clarity wise can anyone say its better than SGS? Also- I just saw a review from PhoneDog saying that Nexus S>Atrix? WTF? I mean lag lag lag lag thats all the Atrix was doing? I know there arent any custom roms - Damn you motorola! - but will there be fixes? I know what its like to get a cutting edge phone that became obsolete (samsung Tocco). BTW u guys reply FAST. Thanks!
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I haven't seen any lag on my phone. Granted, I'm coming from a Touch Pro, so anything should seem fast buuuut...
Get Opera Mobile from the marketplace for a web browser and it clips along pretty good.
So it's not android optimization for dual core? If thats the case, then why te f.u.c.k did Moto even put on blur?!
I have two screenshots with accompanying pictures of the screen for comparison:
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/homescreen1.png
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/homescreen1-t2i.jpg
You'll notice any solid color ends up being "checkerboarded" by the PenTile screen.
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/speakPrompt1.png
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/speakPrompt1-t2i.jpg
The gradient was already weird (blocky?) in the screenshot, but on the actual screen it just looks terrible.
I notice the PenTile color "checkerboarding" all the time in w/e apps or videos and it is a distraction but for me it isn't a deal breaker.
Thanks so much for posting these pics! You call it checkerboarding, I call it blurriness but this is it - the thing I saw on the galaxy s. Well if it's back.... Mainly this screen will be used for gaming, movies and web browsing. I'd say movies will be below par due to bad colour- gaming too and email mucked up due to pentile. Plz correct me- bc it's looking quite grim...
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Thanks so much for posting these pics! You call it checkerboarding, I call it blurriness but this is it - the thing I saw on the galaxy s. Well if it's back.... Mainly this screen will be used for gaming, movies and web browsing. I'd say movies will be below par due to bad colour- gaming too and email mucked up due to pentile. Plz correct me- bc it's looking quite grim...
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You guys are high... I'm not experiencing any clipping like I did on the nexus one gallery. Quick pic for gallery and dolphin for browser.
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You guys are high... I'm not experiencing any clipping like I did on the nexus one gallery. Quick pic for gallery and dolphin for browser.
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What is clipping?
The Atrix has a 4" display with 540 x 960 resolution. This is higher pixel density than almost every other phone on the market except the iPhone 4. The iPhone, however, only has a 3.5" display, and once you have used a 4" display for any length of time (or even a 3.7") it is very hard to loose that extra space. It is the highest resolution and pixel density android phone available (except for that Sharp one in Japan that is an NTT DoCoMo exclusive and uses the same display Sharp supply to Apple).
PenTile is laid out RRB GGB so you have RGB, just two lots of each. Unless you are insanely fussy about screens, you will not notice. Plus it will look better than most other screens purely for having a higher pixel density.
I wouldn't worry about it being PenTile. Have a look at this http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4 .
Many of the reviews of the titan refer to jaggies on text and visible pixels. I can't see anything like this, everytning is perfectly crisp and clear to me. Has anyone else seen these artefacts or are they a fantasy dreamt up by the reviewers, or maybe my eyes are even more screwed than I thought!!
Yes, you should go see a doctor now.
Nope havent noticed either.
It has a higher ppi than the iphone 3gs. Whoever says they think the screen is jaggy, or whatever, is deliberately nitpicking, IMO!
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Looks fine to me. No jaggies. I have this phone on trial and it's better than I thought. Quality of build is great and the phone doesn't feel too big. Nice job HTC.
Agree with everyone here after a month of using the phone
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After ordering one on Saturday I went to AT&T to check out the screen. The screen is nice and big, but it's not as clear as the iPhone 4. It's most apparent when looking at webpages, I can read the smallest text on the iPhone 4 despite it's smaller screen because of the high PPI. I think I might enjoy the larger screen vs the higher PPI.
If you want to see an example of jagged pixels, check out your avatar on the Xbox Live page. It's very noticeable.
I do think wp7 need to increase the resolution for these large screen devices. The lives are just too big! Love the titan but can't get over how giant those live tiles are compared to my HTC Radar! The jagged text is not an issue unless you pt your eye close to the screen though.
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I don't know about Titan,but when I compared the Radar side by side with my iPhone, they didn't have much of a difference except for when viewing a page completely zoomed out. The Radar showed jadgged pixels whereas iPhone didn't. but it isn't a big deal IMO. I couldn't read the iPhones text zoomed out because the screen is too small.
But I agree with the OP,some reviews just give the Titan a low score becaus of its dispay ppi which is ridiculous IMO. One of those sites is gsmarena.com. these guys didn't even know what ppi was lol but as soon as iPhone 4 was released,they paid a lot of attention to ppi and gave a low score to any dispay with 300 or lower ppi.
jeremyshaw said:
It has a higher ppi than the iphone 3gs. Whoever says they think the screen is jaggy, or whatever, is deliberately nitpicking, IMO!
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you can see it when reading documents or viewing icons in windows phone. It's really apparent when reading pdfs or anything on the light theme. It's a minor annoyance versus the focus s/flash and the lumia, but its not a huge deal breaker
As far as other sites, its their opinions. And they go through phones daily, so to go from a phone with higher pixel density, you sort of expect it in a lot of your smart phone usage. When its not there, it's quite peculiar to watch. For some its a huge negative, but i can also see how people have stated that it gives Windows a comical experience.
I actually agree with the other pages
It is quite a good comparison...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU4V7kLV7hc&feature=relmfu
Thank you,
it's not really about the benchmarks for me, but I'm happy to see that the RAM is very fast.
The thing that really comes to my mind when seeing this comparison is "Damn, the Rezound's screen is bad! Poor colour, poor contrast, grey blacks."
The LCD will never look as good as an AMOLED when viewed on an angle. Also the screen resolution differences will throw the benchmarks off. Best evaluation is in hand based off your personal needs and feel.
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This really does showcase how much nicer the RAZR's screen is than the Rezound's; resolution be damned. Also, it's good that benchmarks are affected by resolution because the device will reflect that in actual usage. Not that the current benchmarks are all that great, but making a test resolution agnostic isn't very realistic.
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Thank you,
it's not really about the benchmarks for me, but I'm happy to see that the RAM is very fast.
The thing that really comes to my mind when seeing this comparison is "Damn, the Rezound's screen is bad! Poor colour, poor contrast, grey blacks."
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You are welcome. The RAM and the screen was the main reason I posted this. The RAZR's screen is definitely better.
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The LCD will never look as good as an AMOLED when viewed on an angle. Also the screen resolution differences will throw the benchmarks off. Best evaluation is in hand based off your personal needs and feel.
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Agree. I too have an LCD and believe me, placing an AMOLED next to it just kills it.
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This really does showcase how much nicer the RAZR's screen is than the Rezound's; resolution be damned. Also, it's good that benchmarks are affected by resolution because the device will reflect that in actual usage. Not that the current benchmarks are all that great, but making a test resolution agnostic isn't very realistic.
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I agree. The Razr's screen is WAAAAYY superior to the Rezound. To be honest, my only fear was the Rezound's resolution. I was worried that it will give the Razr a run for its money. Am happy to see, its nowhere close...
It does appear the display res is hurting Rezound performance. I tested the utter heck out of both devices, before choosing the Razr.
I like playing game emulators and the Razr has far better touch response and plays games faster than the Rezound. No comparison with N64 and PSX for performance and all emulators are rough with touch response on the Rezound.
Display res matters big on emulators. That is why they play faster when you play them in their smaller native windows. Less pixels to push.
Added: The real odd thing is the Flyer is the single core version of same chip, but also plays games far better. Performance and touch response.
Probably to do with the Rezounds pixel density.
I just wanted your guys opinion on doing a reveiew side by side comparison between these two. My girlfriend gets her ipad tommorow morning and thought about doin this and uploading it to YouTube?
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I just wanted your guys opinion on doing a reveiew side by side comparison between these two. My girlfriend gets her ipad tommorow morning and thought about doin this and uploading it to YouTube?
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Would love to see it.
I'd love a comparison of the screens specifically - my wife's iphone 4 retina display is crisp, but it's not WOW like the Note.
Samsung really has a leg up with the Super Amoled tech - no one is touching it right now.
Kinda comparing apples and oranges here arn't we?
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Kinda comparing apples and oranges here arn't we?
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Apples to Androids. I agree, an iPad is a somewhat different device, although I sold my first gen to help fund my $299 upgrade to the Note (thanks in part to iPhone 4 resale prices plummeting)
Still, having just come from several iPhones and an iPad myself, I think a comparison between lower DPI AMOLED and higher Retina is valid in concept, since some will say the crispness of the Apple displays (even if smaller) is superior to the slightly lower per mm density of the Samsung. I've gone back and forth, myself. Sometimes this Note AMOLED seems almost too saturated for my tastes, and you can't deny that text and fine details look amazing on Retina, but the latter definitely doesn't have the deep rich hues, either.
i dont think you can hold up the ipad next to your ear and talk ....
I own both the iPad and the Note. And will start off saying I love both devices. I am not a fan of the iPhone, owned many in the past. The iPads Retina display is pretty damn WOW I'm not gonna lie. It's insanely crisp and very accurate color reproduction. In videos/movies as well as pictures the iPads is more realistic where the Note has Samsung 's vibrant color punch. Both do a good job in their respect. I wasn't gonna even get the iPad but figured I'd get it for my GF and use it when I wanted. Ans see what the fuss was about with the Retina display.
The blacks on the note are darker via the Super Amoled. But suffers from black crush time to time in dark scenes and block pixelation. The iPads retina is something that has to be seen in person to do it justice. It literally looks fake it's that clear lol
Like stated the Note gives off very saturated colors, which is fine with me. I need to do some more side by side comparison. But as of right now I'm gonna have to give it to the Retina display wise. The super clear text, very accurate color reproduction is pretty amazing.
I will say having both is kinda best if both worlds. I enjoy the iPad because it does exactly what I want it to do, and very well. Plus I'm a display snob lol. I had a Transformer Prime which I returned. Had to many problems and went through a few of them. I also like Apples 4:3 ratio for web browsing and gaming actually. I hate iPhones though lol. My Note satisfies my geek side with customizing and over clocking and such. It all depends what you want your device to do. Plus the Direct Tv app on the iPad is BOSS!
But if you ask me what device is better overall in a toe toe fight.... I'd say the Galaxy a note
Compare Galaxy Note with Ipad 3??? WTF Hahahah, That's a funny thought. It would be ok to compare Galaxy Note 10.1" with Ipad 3.
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Compare Galaxy Note with Ipad 3??? WTF Hahahah, That's a funny thought. It would be ok to compare Galaxy Note 10.1" with Ipad 3.
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I agree with this. I was just trying to give you guys a idea what I see as far as display wise. I'm eagerly awaiting on a Galaxy Note tablet. However, owning a Note it might feel unnecessary if you know what I mean. Being they will be identical just a larger screen.
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I agree with this. I was just trying to give you guys a idea what I see as far as display wise. I'm eagerly awaiting on a Galaxy Note tablet. However, owning a Note it might feel unnecessary if you know what I mean. Being they will be identical just a larger screen.
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That's why i always have the HP TouchPad $99 running ICS 4.0 to play if i need something bigger to play around.
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That's why i always have the HP TouchPad $99 running ICS 4.0 to play if i need something bigger to play around.
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Yea I would have deff snagged a Touch Pad at $99 when they were around.
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i dont think you can hold up the ipad next to your ear and talk ....
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My co-workers mock me relentlessly about the hugeness of my phone. When one of their ipads arrived, he came over to my office holding it up to his head like a phone and said 'Who's got the bigger phone now tough guy!'
Nubs, just don't understand
The new iPad screen is made by Samsung... so not sure Apple wins either way.
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The new iPad screen is made by Samsung... so not sure Apple wins either way.
Exactly! Also the A5X chip is essentially a Samsung Exynos chip. All Apple does is send Samsung the blue print and Samsung makes the chip for them. This time around Samsung also did the LCD display like noted above. It was speculated to be Sharp this time around but lookie lookie lol.
It's all so funny how thet are taking each other to court but Samsung makes the processor and the display for the iPad lol.
Either way we have a new iPad in our home which is used by the GF the majority of the time. But both serve their purpose.
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billzilla2000 said:
I think a comparison between lower DPI AMOLED and higher Retina is valid in concept, since some will say the crispness of the Apple displays (even if smaller) is superior to the slightly lower per mm density of the Samsung.
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Actually, Apple's new "Retina" display doesn't even adhere to their own [original] requirements of a Retina display (I don't recall what the numbers were, but Jobs presented them when the iPhone 4 was released). It's just marketing (aka APPLE LIES). The Note has a higher PPI than the new iPad does. The new iPad has 264 Pixels Per Inch, while the Note has 284.8 Pixels Per Inch. Ignoring trademarks, we have more of a right to use "Retina Display" than Apple does.
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I own both the iPad and the Note. And will start off saying I love both devices. I am not a fan of the iPhone, owned many in the past. The iPads Retina display is pretty damn WOW I'm not gonna lie. It's insanely crisp and very accurate color reproduction. In videos/movies as well as pictures the iPads is more realistic where the Note has Samsung 's vibrant color punch. Both do a good job in their respect. I wasn't gonna even get the iPad but figured I'd get it for my GF and use it when I wanted. Ans see what the fuss was about with the Retina display.
The blacks on the note are darker via the Super Amoled. But suffers from black crush time to time in dark scenes and block pixelation. The iPads retina is something that has to be seen in person to do it justice. It literally looks fake it's that clear lol
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I'm sorry, but I just don't get all of the hype over the Apple's retina display. I own the 4th generation iPod touch with the retina display, and I can't remember ever gawking over how amazingly beautiful it is. Same goes for the iPhone 4S. I remember right after it came out, I went to the Apple Store to get an accessory. I literally played with the 4S for several minutes, and didn't notice until after I left the store that I hadn't paid any attention to the retina display. Things like that usually JUMP out at me. I'm really particular about screen quality. That's why I own a 3D LED TV. I wanted the best screen possible and I can see the difference. With the retina displays, I've never noticed anything eye-popping about them, except when watching videos. That's where Apple products have always shined. They have superior video quality.
But, I've been a million times more amazed with the quality of my Galaxy Note super AMOLED HD display, than the retina display. I watched high quality Netflix movies on both devices, and the Notes screen was better in most instances. True, the Apple products display natural colors better than anyone else, but who wants to see natural colors on an HD TV or phone? That's the whole reason why people go HD. They want bright, vibrant colors. Also, I don't know if you know, but there are three settings on the Note that changes the screen colors when watching videos: Vivid, Natural, and Movie. I don't know if those are the right terms, but it's close enough. Each setting is actually noticeably different.
I was not aware of that you can change the picture mode while watching videos. Thanks.
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