Hi,
Got HD2 on Orange.
problem is that it does not switch to T-mobile on weak orange signal.
Tried all the "set preferred networks2 but it does not seem to save it.
I can switch manually.
Also, when on T-mobile it sees it as roaming and stops all my apps.
any ideas how to sort it?
Thanks
xewonder said:
Hi,
Got HD2 on Orange.
problem is that it does not switch to T-mobile on weak orange signal.
Tried all the "set preferred networks2 but it does not seem to save it.
I can switch manually.
Also, when on T-mobile it sees it as roaming and stops all my apps.
any ideas how to sort it?
Thanks
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enable roaming to keep apps running. As for the signal from what i've seen being on tmob you need to lose signal before it auto switches, signal is still a signal whether it's weak or strong
mine wil switch before a total loss of signal....
could just be that the t mobile signal is even weaker than your orange signal.
t mobiles coverage is balls...(in scotland anyway)
hi,
no... orange is bollox at my house... t-mobile 5 bars..
but it just does not auto switch... even without signal...
Could it be because I unlocked the phone?
When I set the preferred networks, it always goes back to the original settings...
i could use phonealarm with network snapshot but was hoping that phone could do it by itself..
hard reboot the phone and set to tmbile on 1st boot
xewonder said:
hi,
no... orange is bollox at my house... t-mobile 5 bars..
but it just does not auto switch... even without signal...
Could it be because I unlocked the phone?
When I set the preferred networks, it always goes back to the original settings...
i could use phonealarm with network snapshot but was hoping that phone could do it by itself..
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I know that I had to register with my mobile company (T-Mobile UK) that I wanted to do the switching. The switching between Orange and T-Mobile had been available for about a month, but my phone never switched prior to signing up for it by text.
For some reason there is a room in my house that doesn't get a T-Mobile signal. Now it automatically goes to Orange.
fred_up said:
The switching between Orange and T-Mobile had been available for about a month, but my phone never switched prior to signing up for it by text
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Because you hadn't signed up for it!?!?!? makes sense when you think about it.............
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Because you hadn't signed up for it!?!?!? makes sense when you think about it.............
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{Sarcasm}
Wait a minute while I go and have a think about it...
{about a minute later}...
Yeah it does make sense, and I'm not talking about the HTC Sense.
{/Sarcasm}
I read about the switching facility, and that they were rolling it out. Since the OP was with Orange I could not say whether they were automatically updated or they had to sign up for it or they wouldn't be getting it till much later. T-Mobile & Orange will automatically update everyone sometime in the near future.
where i live t-mobile is poor, i pull up outside my house and its allready telling me i may be charged for roaming, and switched to orange.
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So Im sure any of you on Tmo UK will be aware of this new option they've given us whereby you can opt-in to use the orange networks if you lose reception from Tmobile........
I thought to myself "yeah...... why not..... cant hurt"
Seeing as I barely get a 3G / HSDPA signal where I live I thought that perhaps it might kick into "orange mode" and give me some 3G action.... (sadly it doesnt)...
Anyway since I opted in Ive noticed that sometimes when Im on the Tmo/Orange signal, the "Edge" (E) symbol is displayed in my taskbar......
Its definitely a lot faster than GPRS but doesnt seem to be as quick as HSDPA, I thought that perhaps it was there in place of the 3G symbol but sometimes that will appear too.....
I thought "Edge" was only available in the US.....
Does Orange have some kind of in between speed that I was previously unaware of??
conantroutman said:
So Im sure any of you on Tmo UK will be aware of this new option they've given us whereby you can opt-in to use the orange networks if you lose reception from Tmobile........
I thought to myself "yeah...... why not..... cant hurt"
Seeing as I barely get a 3G / HSDPA signal where I live I thought that perhaps it might kick into "orange mode" and give me some 3G action.... (sadly it doesnt)...
Anyway since I opted in Ive noticed that sometimes when Im on the Tmo/Orange signal, the "Edge" (E) symbol is displayed in my taskbar......
Its definitely a lot faster than GPRS but doesnt seem to be as quick as HSDPA, I thought that perhaps it was there in place of the 3G symbol but sometimes that will appear too.....
I thought "Edge" was only available in the US.....
Does Orange have some kind of in between speed that I was previously unaware of??
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I don't know it fore sure, but France Telecom (Group holder of Orange) have invest a lot in UMTS maybe it's that you got.
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in order of speed, edge has been used in the uk for years
So you texted Yes to 2121 as well.. I honestly cannot spot any difference, still haven't gotten Orange coverage yet
Richy99 said:
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edge
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in order of speed, edge has been used in the uk for years
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Didnt realise that........
about edge anyway........
cheers...
Don001 said:
So you texted Yes to 2121 as well.. I honestly cannot spot any difference, still haven't gotten Orange coverage yet
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lol you probably wont need it in London........
coverage is poor out here in the sticks though..........
it perhaps won't auto switch networks, because it knows t mo is the preferred network, unless there is no t mo reception at all.
you maybe need to add the orange network as a preferred network
settings menu all settings personal phone network tab set networks let's you set the preferred order and such, so if you find yourself in an orange dominant area move orange above tmo in the list.
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lol you probably wont need it in London........
coverage is poor out here in the sticks though..........
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OK I'm generally a proud Londoner (Not a bad thing lol).. But sometimes I've been in the middle of Oxford Street and notice I have no reception, London isn't a great place for good reception is some areas, you get better reception in residential areas then main high streets
@sam...
Mine seems to switch even when I have a reasonable amount of signal.
9 times out of 10 today when I looked at my phone I had the roaming and edge symbols sitting in my taskbar....
I generally never struggle for basic network coverage so I was surprised at how often I'm on orange signal...
@don..
Yeah I guess there are plenty of things that could hamper you're signal...
Maybe it's that famous london smog I've heard so much about
conantroutman said:
@sam...
Mine seems to switch even when I have a reasonable amount of signal.
9 times out of 10 today when I looked at my phone I had the roaming and edge symbols sitting in my taskbar....
I generally never struggle for basic network coverage so I was surprised at how often I'm on orange signal...
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good to know, i guess it must do some signal strength comparing.
conantroutman said:
@don..
Yeah I guess there are plenty of things that could hamper you're signal...
Maybe it's that famous london smog I've heard so much about
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Maybe lol
Battery Drain
I've also just signed up to this as I get poor signal thru T-Mobile when in some buildings whilst at work.
Problem is that I've noticed a significant drain in battery since subscribing presumably as the phone is always comparing signal strength of both Tmo and Orange and switching between the two periodically.
Is there a way to change carrier manually through some form of *#*# dial code rather than to switch to manual and select the desired network as this takes a while? I don't seem to have the option to set my preferred networks as a previous poster mentioned.
I've had mixed experience with this - make sure your sense and activesync settings are set to NOT download data when roaming - the Orange/T-mobile thing calls itself roaming and I kept getting password incorrect responses from gmail on activesync, I assume because it was trying to access the servers from different IP addresses rapidly. You do not get 3G etc from Orange - your data comes over t-mobile, you just roaming onto the Orange network when there is no signal on t-mobile, so it should give you better call coverage, but for data switch off roaming so it only tries to access data when on t-mobile.
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I've had mixed experience with this - make sure your sense and activesync settings are set to NOT download data when roaming - the Orange/T-mobile thing calls itself roaming and I kept getting password incorrect responses from gmail on activesync, I assume because it was trying to access the servers from different IP addresses rapidly. You do not get 3G etc from Orange - your data comes over t-mobile, you just roaming onto the Orange network when there is no signal on t-mobile, so it should give you better call coverage, but for data switch off roaming so it only tries to access data when on t-mobile.
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Are you saying that there are charges for data usage whilst using the orange side of things?......
Hope not........ Lol
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Ever since Verizon network went down a few days ago I can't get a solid connection whenever I download anything. Browser seems to load fine. I try downloading several apps from the market but cannot complete the download due to lost connectioime. It will just stop at any time during The download. Same with files. I dont think is the rom. I'm on cm7 pre-release. Flash back to Tesla but still have the issue. Is anyone else have this issue?
Are you close to a 4G area? Try locking your radio to 3G and see if it improves.
akanatrix said:
Are you close to a 4G area? Try locking your radio to 3G and see if it improves.
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No I don't get 4g in my area. How do I lock 3g? I have it set on cdma / edvo auto.
xxxdroidxxx said:
No I don't get 4g in my area. How do I lock 3g? I have it set on cdma / edvo auto.
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You go into the phone dialer and input *#*#4636#*#*, choose phone information. LTE mode for only 4G, CDMA auto (PRL) for only 3G. You can change it back to normal by using CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto.
I've been having the same exact problem.
akanatrix said:
You go into the phone dialer and input *#*#4636#*#*, choose phone information. LTE mode for only 4G, CDMA auto (PRL) for only 3G. You can change it back to normal by using CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto.
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I'll try this later tonight.
slckofit said:
I've been having the same exact problem.
I'll try this later tonight.
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Just installed the latest radio and is still having the same issue. I hope is the network then since you're having the same problem too.
I have das bamf remix 1.5 on my phone and I've been having very slow downloads lately when it says I have a full signal.... Tried both modes as mentioned above and problem persists. Can't even load a whole you tube vid. WTF
New radio problems
I had similair issues, and I went back to stock 605.6 radio and a simple debloat rom and it fixed my issues, I am also set to CDMA(PRL) as I'm in a 3G only area
on the new radio my 3G connection was unstable and my GPS wouldn't lock
all of this only occurred after the verizon network went down and came back up.
before that I was having my problem with the new radio. I'm waiting on 605.6 until Verizon officially updates the radio, because I think they changed something that is currently only working with the old radio, the only one they have to support at this time, just my conjecture of course, but I've tried it a few times going between an old radio/old rom and new radio/new rom and it's consistant
Having the same issues. Tried all the radios, but downloading from the market place still goes at a snails place. Like everyone else this started after the lte network went down and came back up.
Update:
Found this on Android Central: Created Cheeta186
cheeta186 said:
Alright, I just got off the phone with them and they fixed my problem in less then 5 minutes. The problem was caused when the network went down, and when it came back up, some of the thunderbolts would not connect correctly causing the connection issues. When I called customer service the woman brought a tech guy on the phone and he had me take the battery out of the phone WHILE IT WAS POWERED UP and then take the SIM card out and he did some kind of "network reset" to my SIM card and now all the issues are gone. Worth giving them a call and seeing if this fixes your problem. IMO VZW has the best customer service hands down, they are always so helpful and will make conversation with you during the luls while on the phone (IE when your phone is booting up).
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Can't check this myself yet, because verizon customer service isn't open as of now.
Interesting. I'll give Verizon a call. Thanks.
Ok, here's a challenge.
I am a uk t-mobile subscriber. In the uk t-mobile and orange merged their cell networks into one big network (tmob bought out orange) with the original t-mobile cells still showing up as "t-mobile" and the now merged orange cells showing up as "t-mobile orange". Tmobile offered their subs the option to also connect via orange cells and orange the same to their subs.
At the time i thought this was a good idea. More cells, more signal in more areas, better experience.
I was very wrong.
Basically the orange cells are absolute crud compared to any of the tmobile cells. You notice a massive drop in bandwidth between a tmobile cell and an orange cell and i wish i had never opted to use both.
So, i am looking for a method to allow me to block the switching to the orange cells so i can stay on my native (faster) tmobile cells all the time and never ever have the phone connect to an orange cell ever.
Any ideas?
I know each network has a numerical value that denotes it so there must be some way to tell the baseband never to switch to this particular network right?
Any advice anyone can give would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
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I was looking for the same solution and came accross your post, judging by the lack of replies theres still nothing to sort this out. Annoying when Orange forces to take over and is usually a weaker signal!
A Post in Themes section re call blocking .
Dont know if that dev would have more knowledge .
jje
I thought you could manually select the network? TMo and Orange come up separately as an option there?
Sent from the town of Waterlooville
I'm also looking for something so I can select a mast... the closest mast to my home is only 2.5mbit while a mast just a few miles away is HSPA+ and peaks at over 10mbit.. when my local mast was down I was able to connect to the HSPA+ one and have full bars... there must be a way of telling the phone to ignore a mast?
You can manually select the network in network settings however the phone freaks out then whenever there is no signal instead of quietly waiting for new signal.
This sort of solves the problem but creates the additional annoyance of notifications of no signal.
I couldnt find any way of blocking individual masts. Im not sure it can even be done on the user end.
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Try updating to lg8 firmware with lh1 modem.
I'm on orange/t mobile and everything works much better now as far as the network switching goes
did you ever get a solution to this ? Orange is doing my head in and its just terrible..
Hi there, I just got my Lumia 920 ATT unlocked, I got the 20 digits unlock code from ATT customer service. But I found it cannot get any signal after I push my T-Mobile SIM card in, it says "No service" and the signal bar is grayed out with a forbidden sign on it, even if I choose to join T-Mobile network manually in cellular settings page. And the most strange thing is, if I call someone using T-Mobile SIM card, the signal comes back quickly, the call could be connected successfully, but after hang up, signal is gone again.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
kootebi said:
Hi there, I just got my Lumia 920 ATT unlocked, I got the 20 digits unlock code from ATT customer service. But I found it cannot get any signal after I push my T-Mobile SIM card in, it says "No service" and the signal bar is grayed out with a forbidden sign on it, even if I choose to join T-Mobile network manually in cellular settings page. And the most strange thing is, if I call someone using T-Mobile SIM card, the signal comes back quickly, the call could be connected successfully, but after hang up, signal is gone again.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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Did you power down the phone after inserting the T-Mobile sim?
RJH57108 said:
Did you power down the phone after inserting the T-Mobile sim?
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Yes of course. After powered down and up, the phone has signal, but after few seconds, signal is gone again.
kootebi said:
Yes of course. After powered down and up, the phone has signal, but after few seconds, signal is gone again.
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The signal bar on the Lumia represents the signal strength of the LTE network which is what the phone attempts to use by default at all times so it can get data for live tiles and such. You may not be in one of T-mos reframed areas yet so your phone is unable to get service on the LTE bands. When you make a call the phone will drop to 3g service and that is why you see bard then as they represent the 3g signal strength. Or it might drop to radio service. Once the call ends the phone will go back to LTE service as it needs a full time data connection to function with live tiles.
Solarenemy68 said:
The signal bar on the Lumia represents the signal strength of the LTE network which is what the phone attempts to use by default at all times so it can get data for live tiles and such. You may not be in one of T-mos reframed areas yet so your phone is unable to get service on the LTE bands. When you make a call the phone will drop to 3g service and that is why you see bard then as they represent the 3g signal strength. Or it might drop to radio service. Once the call ends the phone will go back to LTE service as it needs a full time data connection to function with live tiles.
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Thanks for reply, I have tried to specify network manually in settings->cellular page, None of 'T-Mobile (LTE, 4G)' and 'T-Mobile G' are lucky. In my understanding if I choose 'T-Mobile G' then the phone should stay on GSM/EDGE or 3G network, please correct me if I am wrong.
kootebi said:
Thanks for reply, I have tried to specify network manually in settings->cellular page, None of 'T-Mobile (LTE, 4G)' and 'T-Mobile G' are lucky. In my understanding if I choose 'T-Mobile G' then the phone should stay on GSM/EDGE or 3G network, please correct me if I am wrong.
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Does this phone get Lte onn t-mobiles network thinking bout getting one
gabriel1946 said:
Does this phone get Lte onn t-mobiles network thinking bout getting one
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Yes, it gets LTE, but there are issues using the hotspot and having MMS. (I have MMS, but no hotspot. Phone claims it's not activated on my account. Tmobile checked with their engineers and said it's all good on their end; the issue was with Nokia/MS.)
I've read online that if you don't download the access point app, the hotspot works, but MMS settings aren't correct.
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gabriel1946 said:
Does this phone get Lte onn t-mobiles network thinking bout getting one
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Why not just get the TMo 925?
zabto said:
Yes, it gets LTE, but there are issues using the hotspot and having MMS. (I have MMS, but no hotspot. Phone claims it's not activated on my account. Tmobile checked with their engineers and said it's all good on their end; the issue was with Nokia/MS.)
I've read online that if you don't download the access point app, the hotspot works, but MMS settings aren't correct.
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Why not just get the TMo 925?
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Almost traded someone my s2 for their 920 on craigslist
Just picked up a new G3 and new service provider in Verizon. Is it common to be stuck on 3G majority of the time in a decent size city? It sometimes in a blue moon switches to 4GLTE, but won't stay long.
I am with tmobile currently as well as that is my main carrier, but needed good coverage in the bad areas of Pennsylvania. Have awesome coverage where I live with tmobile, however with Verizon not so much.
Is it common?
I guess I have 14 days to decide. Any feedback greatly appreciated,
JesseMT4G said:
Just picked up a new G3 and new service provider in Verizon. Is it common to be stuck on 3G majority of the time in a decent size city? It sometimes in a blue moon switches to 4GLTE, but won't stay long.
I am with tmobile currently as well as that is my main carrier, but needed good coverage in the bad areas of Pennsylvania. Have awesome coverage where I live with tmobile, however with Verizon not so much.
Is it common?
I guess I have 14 days to decide. Any feedback greatly appreciated,
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take it back... verizon locks everything down tmo allows you to be free .
sorry i didn't actually help you in regards to your question.
The only time I see myself switch to 3g is where I have crappy service at my parent's place. Otherwise I don't have that issue..
However I'm also not in Pennsylvania so someone else may need to comment on that bit.
Perhaps they're doing tower upgrades over there?
The G3 gets really good reception, on par or better than the Motorola phones which are known to have excellent reception. I'd give it a day or so to settle along with a few restarts to see if you can grab an updated PRL. Outside of that Verizon may not be great in your area. I have to go outside to get a decent 4G signal, inside it's 3G most of the time.
That's the thing, I still have my T-Mobile phone. I actually live in Ohio, however work in PA and a little of West Virginia where I get no signal and can only make emergency calls. When in Ohio, where I live I get amazing 4G signal on lte. 40 down and 10 up to where on Verizon where I live I get 7 down and barely 1 up. It's crazy... Then again I am on 3G most of the time.
So wifi it goes....
Also is it normal to be on wifi and next to it the 4G/3G signal shows. I only have a gig of data is why I ask. Don't want unwanted charges on my bill.
T-Mobile g Flex unfortunately will still be my main phone. Unlimited everything.
JesseMT4G said:
Also is it normal to be on wifi and next to it the 4G/3G signal shows. I only have a gig of data is why I ask. Don't want unwanted charges on my bill.
T-Mobile g Flex unfortunately will still be my main phone. Unlimited everything.
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Yep that's normal, nothing to worry about there
Ok, thanks. Just worried as T-Mobile phone goes straight to wifi symbol only.
You could try switching airplane mode on and then back off
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kwkw480 said:
take it back... verizon locks everything down tmo allows you to be free .
sorry i didn't actually help you in regards to your question.
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Explain this a little more.
Go to network and Switch to LTE from global. I had the same problem and that fixed it
leemsami said:
Go to network and Switch to LTE from global. I had the same problem and that fixed it
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I did this and at 1st it gave me full bars. I did a reset for some reason and when it came back it's back to 1 bar. Weird....So does this mean I'll stay on 4G and won't pan back to 3G, if so might need to be on global in order to get signal in bad areas.
Thanks though, see what happens.
Things to try:
Power off take out the sim, power back on without sim, power off and put sim back in.
Call Verizon and have then send an update to your sim card.
Factory reset your device
Get a new sim card
toy028 said:
Things to try:
Power off take out the sim, power back on without sim, power off and put sim back in.
Call Verizon and have then send an update to your sim card.
Factory reset your device
Get a new sim card
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It's a new phone and I would have to already take put the SIM. I mean I will as I dont get why I am constantly on 3G. Thought Verizon was good at penetrating buildings for 4G.
Not to mention even when I am on 4G it's no where near the speeds my tmobile phone gets.
Might have to chalk it up to so many people on big red....I guess as long as I get signal in the boonies I'll be okay. Just a little disappointed.
Thanks for the help.
I had this same issue and switching it from Global to CDMA/LTE fixed it for me. I've read that it shouldn't matter if it's on Global.... But I clearly saw the difference.
This G3 gets the same or better reception that my S4 does. I'm happy with it
- Sent From My G3
You should be on 4G, if it is available in your area. Signal strength is the main reason it'll drop to 3G, but that's only when your 4G signal drops above -100 dBm. Somewhere around the -115 is where mine decides it's better to switch to 3G. I even get some 1X's here at my desk, but I've got a crappy signal at my desk. If you're on 3G most of the time, then there's a problem. As stated earlier, take the following steps:
FDR (Factory Data Reset.) You'll lose everything, so back it up.
Go into the VZW store and tell them you want another SIM card. (Try not to handle it with your fingers and tell them not to handle it with theirs either.)
Replacement phone is the only other alternative.
If none of the above works, then you probably do need to switch back to T-Mobile. Just remember, you only have 14 days to figure this out!
Have you looked at a coverage map? Verizon does have excellent coverage but all carriers have holes
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Looks like Verizon has spotty service in the area you described. Vzw May not be the best choice for you in that area. Especially if you travel.
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leyvatron said:
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T-Mobile's version comes factory unlocked. It already has the TWRP recovery.
OTOH, T-Mobile's version is SIM locked and Verizon's isn't, so Verizon's version is more free if you ever need to travel internationally.
scy1192 said:
T-Mobile's version comes factory unlocked. It already has the TWRP recovery.
OTOH, T-Mobile's version is SIM locked and Verizon's isn't, so Verizon's version is more free if you ever need to travel internationally.
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I got faith in the devs as far at unlocking this phone for a custom recovery!
- Sent From My G3