noob Q re backups - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

1. What is the difference between performing a nandroid backup after booting into recovery and doing one through Rom Manager?
2. Where are the backups saved and is there any chance of them being overwritten by flashing a rom?

No difference
In the clockwork folder, internal memory.
You will not lose this because the rom's do not wipe internal, just data (apps)

I need a bit of clarification. What exactly is a nandroid...if i assume that it is a complete back up of all data and apps, would i be correct? As you can see im a bit confused. I read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475&page=2 (just in case i wanted to revert back to a stock rom for what ever reason) is the nandroid used once you flash back to stock using odin to get everything back to stock or can you us the nandroid to get back to stock?
Ive searched on here and cant really find a straight answer.
Thanks for the help!

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[Q] Nandroid/ odin question?

Ok, so immediately after rooting I created a nandroid backup. So, if I flash a rom (or anything else for that matter) and something goes wrong, I can restore my "stock" backup. im new to odin and curious to why I'd have to use it to flash the vibrant stock rom if I already have my nandroid stock backup? From what I gather, if I change the kernal, using odin will restore it back to stock, and nandroid will only restore system and data, but not change back the kernal. Is this correct or am I missing something vital that I don't know about odin. Sorry if this sounds confusing. Any help is greatly appreciated.
mentalex2 said:
Ok, so immediately after rooting I created a nandroid backup. So, if I flash a rom (or anything else for that matter) and something goes wrong, I can restore my "stock" backup. im new to odin and curious to why I'd have to use it to flash the vibrant stock rom if I already have my nandroid stock backup? From what I gather, if I change the kernal, using odin will restore it back to stock, and nandroid will only restore system and data, but not change back the kernal. Is this correct or am I missing something vital that I don't know about odin. Sorry if this sounds confusing. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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You are correct. As long as you don't need to restore a kernel you can use nandroid to restore to stock. And if you ever use your nandroid backup there is a stock nandroid backup posted in the development forum. I don't like using odin unless I absolutely have to (such as in a situation where I can't get into clockwork recovery or something)

[Q] Ready To Install ROMs?

I am pretty much trying to double check and make sure I have done everything needed before installing a custom ROM. I have a LG P509 from T-Mobile. I rooted my phone and backed everything up on my SD card using Titanium Pro. Then I installed a custom recovery (Thunderbird) following instructions from the forums. From recovery I did a Nand backup. I chose Nand+extra+android_secure. (I am unsure if that was the right option to choose, if not can I just delete the nandroid folder from my SD and repeat the process the right way?). I replaced then lost my original boot animation before backing up, does that really matter? I was reading about a custom ROM and it said something about "requiring AMON_RA recovery". I used thunderg and was wondering the difference, if I should install it and how to do so (if its the same process/where to find the files)? From everything I have done I should be able to recover to pretty much my stock phone, correct? One last question, does installing ROM and/or kernals completely erase, reformat my SD card? I have read up a ton but some things haven't been fully clear to me. I know these questions have probably been answered a million times so I thank you for all the help and insite! If I missed or forgot some things please let me know as well, thanks.
You are ready the method to back up also fine now just download rom u like and flash it.
No installing rom doesn't format ur sdcard. But some rom requires u too partition ur sdcard that's where sdcard gets formatted.
The recoverry u install is old I think u should flash new ones like amonra or cloakwork but be aware that the nandroid backup of different recovery is not compatible with each other.
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rustedashes said:
I am pretty much trying to double check and make sure I have done everything needed before installing a custom ROM. I have a LG P509 from T-Mobile. I rooted my phone and backed everything up on my SD card using Titanium Pro. Then I installed a custom recovery (Thunderbird) following instructions from the forums. From recovery I did a Nand backup. I chose Nand+extra+android_secure. (I am unsure if that was the right option to choose, if not can I just delete the nandroid folder from my SD and repeat the process the right way?). I replaced then lost my original boot animation before backing up, does that really matter? I was reading about a custom ROM and it said something about "requiring AMON_RA recovery". I used thunderg and was wondering the difference, if I should install it and how to do so (if its the same process/where to find the files)? From everything I have done I should be able to recover to pretty much my stock phone, correct? One last question, does installing ROM and/or kernals completely erase, reformat my SD card? I have read up a ton but some things haven't been fully clear to me. I know these questions have probably been answered a million times so I thank you for all the help and insite! If I missed or forgot some things please let me know as well, thanks.
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first if u want amonra orelse clockwork which can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024838 just place the file in ur sd card root and flash from recovery then reboot. DONE! u can find the latest amonra recovery here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197.
now when u install a new rom and wipe ur sd card then obvious that it wipes ur sd completely as some rom require to create ext partition so keep all your backup safe in pc too.
Boot animation is not an issue at all.
as for the backup nand we normally choose nand+android secure (in case no ext partition) and nand +android secure+ext (in case of ext parttion) i am not sure about the exact lines as different recovery might have differnt option type but moreorless they are same.
note:if u flash any other recovery like amonra or clockwork it is better to create a new backup using the latest recovery
I'm about to flash my first rom too. After reading alot and trying to undestand all those procedure is hard, as english is not my primary language. Recently I have install root and install costum recovery 1.2 from terminal emulator and did some nandroid backups. Also did a stock recovery backup.
My phone is stock and my provider is Telus. Do I have to unlock the phone or anything similar before flashing a new rom?
Not sure if it works on a locked phone, guess it will.
Just give it a shot, you can restore your nandbackup any time if it fails.
Hi
I would like to install mik's cm7 ROM but there are some things which I did not understand (never installed custom ROMs before, so I'm a noob):
- which recovery should I use? Amonra or Clockwork? (some explanations here contradict others, so it's not clear to me: should I copy in my SD card root both recovery.img and signed_recovery files? Because in the clockworkmod recovery topic I only found the archive containing the recovery.img file, no signed_recovery anywhere. Also in the ROM Manager app there is the option Flash ClockworkMod Recovery - can I flash a custom recovery just by pressing this option?)
- do I need to partition my SD card for this ROM? If it's necessary, how should I do it best? I mean, I was thinking at 32mb cache, 1mb ext2 or 4 and the rest fat32. And what is the real use of this partitioning?
Sorry for asking a lot of silly questions, but there is no real full tutorial for noobs here, and reading all the explanations spread around the forum is kinda confusing.
Thanks in advance
Thanks. I went ahead and flashed to the new recovery, worked perfect, and made new backups. Just waiting to get to a computer to backup to PC.
_Arjen_ said:
Not sure if it works on a locked phone, guess it will.
Just give it a shot, you can restore your nandbackup any time if it fails.
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I'm not going to just give a try as my knowledge about the whole thing about flashing is new to me. I don't want to brick another O1 So many user here and no straight answer, wow!
I just want the right tools to proceed to flash as smooth as it can be.
Again do I have to unlocked the phone or do anything else before flashing a first custom rom? The phone is stock, beside root and custom recovery.
martymart18t said:
I'm not going to just give a try as my knowledge about the whole thing about flashing is new to me. I don't want to brick another O1 So many user here and no straight answer, wow!
I just want the right tools to proceed to flash as smooth as it can be.
Again do I have to unlocked the phone or do anything else before flashing a first custom rom? The phone is stock, beside root and custom recovery
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This thread may give you some insite. I do not know if its what your looking for but might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075525
martymart18t said:
Again do I have to unlocked the phone or do anything else before flashing a first custom rom? The phone is stock, beside root and custom recovery.
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From what I've read here it works only with P509 ROMs; P500 ROMs don't work.
wrong please delete it.

[Q] Clockworkmod recovery problem...

Hi, stupid question here from a relative noob....
I have a Cincinnati Bell Vibrant, that I recently flashed CM7 on (after using Rom Manager to backup up my stock rom). Liked it, but found it too battery-intensive, so I booted into clockworkmod recovery and attempted to restore the backup of my stock rom. It failed on flashing the boot image, and now my phone is stuck on the Vibrant screen, and won't boot. None of the hardware combinations to get into recovery mode are working, but I can get it into download mode. Before I screw things up further, what is the best way to go from here to get the backup restored, or is it even possible at this point?
Thanks
tabbott01 said:
Hi, stupid question here from a relative noob....
I have a Cincinnati Bell Vibrant, that I recently flashed CM7 on (after using Rom Manager to backup up my stock rom). Liked it, but found it too battery-intensive, so I booted into clockworkmod recovery and attempted to restore the backup of my stock rom. It failed on flashing the boot image, and now my phone is stuck on the Vibrant screen, and won't boot. None of the hardware combinations to get into recovery mode are working, but I can get it into download mode. Before I screw things up further, what is the best way to go from here to get the backup restored, or is it even possible at this point?
Thanks
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This doesn't sound too bad. Basically you want to Odin back to stock. Then reflash the rom you were on, then you can reboot back into recovery and restore your backup. If voodoo was enabled on your backup make sure voodoo is enabled again before restoring(it might work either way, but I'm not sure). When I've done this, I restore a prerooted 2.2 stock Rom without changing the bootloaders, but almost any official stock rom will also work. I'm on the go, so I don't have a link handy, but post back if needed and I will point you to the odin package I use. Good luck.
I also am having some issues with Clockworld recovery. The problem i am having is that when doing a nandriod backup this is the error i am recieving
"E:cant mount /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 (or @)
Cant mount /mnt/sdcard
any suggestions on whats going on?
phone_noobie said:
I also am having some issues with Clockworld recovery. The problem i am having is that when doing a nandriod backup this is the error i am recieving
"E:cant mount /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 (or @)
Cant mount /mnt/sdcard
any suggestions on whats going on?
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Are you sure the sdcard is good? If so then I would follow the same steps listed above, that way you know your CWR is good.
mattb3 said:
Are you sure the sdcard is good? If so then I would follow the same steps listed above, that way you know your CWR is good.
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yes it is good because i can see all the videos, pics i have saved in it. Also i put the new ROM on my internal sd card and its there so sd card is def good. What could be causing the problem?
To the op, I would use Odin, no real worries there.
To the other guy with sdcard issue, try moving all files to your PC, format your sdcard, reboot, move files back, flash cwr in ROM mgr, backup work? Move critical files back from PC.
mattb3 said:
This doesn't sound too bad. Basically you want to Odin back to stock. Then reflash the rom you were on, then you can reboot back into recovery and restore your backup. If voodoo was enabled on your backup make sure voodoo is enabled again before restoring(it might work either way, but I'm not sure). When I've done this, I restore a prerooted 2.2 stock Rom without changing the bootloaders, but almost any official stock rom will also work. I'm on the go, so I don't have a link handy, but post back if needed and I will point you to the odin package I use. Good luck.
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Thanks...that's exactly what I did, except the backup would never quite "take." It completely loaded and cycled through the boot process, but I ended up on a boot-restore loop. So now I've Odin-ed back to stock with the closest build I could find to my stock (which I don't think is out there yet - FROYO.UVJL6.ULTIMOBILE - do you know anywhere to find it?), rooted, and am searching for a good, stable, battery-friendly mod once again.
s15274n said:
try moving all files to your PC, format your sdcard, reboot, move files back, flash cwr in ROM mgr, backup work? Move critical files back from PC.
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i did try formatting, then moving all the stuff back and am still getting that same error message
^ what rom are you on, if one?
You could always ODIN, and use my option b cwr in the noob guide. I just tested making a backup using trigger 8/22 and know there are no issues. Not really sure whats up on your end. I will say though, I've emailed koush several times that there is an issue with cwr on the vibrant from rom manager, for some it won't even flash.
phone_noobie said:
i did try formatting, then moving all the stuff back and am still getting that same error message
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try different sd card..or reinstall CWM...

Restoring to Stock from CM10 (Whats the Final Word?)

Hey guys,
Wanted to get a sure answer.
Whats the safest way to restore back to the stock firmware fro CM10 (or any rom in general).
There are two answers that i seem to have come across.
Answer 1:
Just download the stock firmware. Extract tar. Load onto PDA, check auto reset the flash reset and then start. Boom done! Everything reverts to stock, modem, firmware, kernel, etc.
Answer 2:
YOU MUST first flash stock kernel. So flash that first via odin then open odin again and flash the rom. If you don't flash the stock kernel first and then just flash the stock firmware, you'll have some issues.
As you can see, both are a bit contradicting. Whats the right method?
You missed one.
Make a nandroid of your stock ROM. then once you're done checking out CM or whatever else, just restore that. A lot less headache.
Docavelli said:
You missed one.
Make a nandroid of your stock ROM. then once you're done checking out CM or whatever else, just restore that. A lot less headache.
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Yep, nandroid is much much faster. In fact I went to lunch today and restored my CM10 nandroid to show a friend. 10 minutes later I was back to my Samsung ROM. Its much easier than flashing stock, then re-rooting, then loading all your apps and data back on.
I had heard that nandroid restores between stock/CM9/CM10 were causing bugs, or something of the sort.
If it really is working that easily, I might have to give these CM9/CM10 builds a try. I just didn't want to play around with it for a bit and then be forced to set up my stock configuration all again, because I do have a need for a certain level of stability.
Edit: Ah, I was thinking of our Verizon version however. I think it might require an Odin flash back to stock, then you can restore a stock nandroid backup.
While I can't guarantee you won't have problems, I can say that I haven't had any issues while restoring nandroids.
*your experience may differ.
XDA Mobile
What version of CWM or TWRP is working fine for nandroid backup and restore, specially for Tmo version?
Sent from my SGH-T999

[Q] Using CWM to recover a gingerbread backup from an ICS rom?

Is this possible? The full details are I had my phone stolen, and got a new one with android 4.0.4 on it. I have on my computer a copy of my latest backup of my old cognition gingerbread rom. Can I just use CWM to recover to my old rom, or do i need to first downgrade to a gingerbread rom, and then recover?
Thankyou very much for assistance
Edit: Also, I don't actually want to use the old rom, I just need the contacts it saved, afterwards I'll wipe everything and install a clean ICS mod. In case there's any way of doing this without having to revert
You'll probably need to restore the backup with a version of CWM close to the one the backup was made with, you can often have problems restoring if you're using a CWM version a lot (say 12 mths or more) newer than the one you made the backup with.
So I'd probably go GB/with a rooted GB kernel first, restore the backup & go from there. I mean, it could work first try with an ICS kernel that's running a recent CWM build, but there's a fair chance it won't.
Edit - And be really careful with stock 4.0.4, don't do a wipe while you're running that.
Wow. I just... wow.
Ok, so I did the stupid thing and just tried to restore my old backup without doing proper downgrading first and it ended up soft bricking my machine, couldn't get recovery mode up, but I got into download mode. So I downloaded my country's stock gingerbread rom from samsung's site and flashed it with odin just to see what happens, and somehow my old rom was working again, and I have all my contacts and data. saved everything up to google, upgraded to ICS, import.
Everything went better than expected.
Thanks for the help
Told you Important thing is you managed to fix it yourself without asking silly questions in Q&A. Not many people seem to be able to do that these days.
Well done. I'm glad you got it sorted
Edit -You're welcome

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