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I have a Samsung Vibrant. I had installed Assassins Creed, NOVA, Geocaching app, did the GPS fix from the secret screen. This is all pretty much stock stuff, I've only had the phone a month. This morning I woke up and it said "THERES AN UPDATE TO YOUR PHONE". I was like ****ING A RIGHT THERE IS. So I clicked next and took a shower.
Phone is stuck at the VIBRANT - SAMSUNG Screen. Since I had been in the bathroom about half an hour for the three Ss, I know it had half an hour to get this right. Rebooting the phone gives me the happy crappy jingle (yeah, still stock jingles) and then the phone hangs. Accessing the (stock) system restore screen and clearing both user and cached data did nothing, so I grabbed my kid and went to the Tmobile store. People tend to be more helpful when you're annoying them with babies.
They did the same thing, then they got on their super secret tech support line. The guy did a lot of Mmmhmming and reset the phone a few times and said it was dead. Then he handed the phone to me. They asked if I overclocked the phone with voodoo (something or other). No. They asked if I had task-killers installed (Advanced Task Killer) and if it was set to kill anything automatically. I said no. They asked me what I had installed since I got the phone. I'm not a poweruser here, I hadn't really had the time to dig into it nor the inclination figuring the update was in the pipe, so I gave them a list. I asked if they could see what was installed, she said they could not, hence the questions.
At this point they offered to ship me a new device, and lent me a new phone. The shipping, unlike other laments on the forums, is free IF you don't take their offer to upgrade.
I got off the phone with them and let my kid eat the displays for a bit - apparently I'm *phone number four* they've had come in today to be sent back. Tmobile knows they have an issue and they are replacing the phones for free so long as you're not that far off the reservation. Now, I'm guessing there's not four people who read these forums and mess around with their phones out here in the sticks, so even the stock phones are getting killed here. If it kills my wifes phone (and she is absolutely stock, GPS crap and all) then I'll know there seriously is a problem. The technician advised me not to update the phone until further notice, I'm inclined just to be a PITA and keep doing it as motivation to at very least pull the update.
Damn that is awful. I was under the impression only rooted phones with laxfixes and/or different kernels were screwing up the update. I wonder if someone, somewhere, is getting fired over this fiasco LOL. Four phones replaced in one day.....
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Chalup said:
Damn that is awful. I was under the impression only rooted phones with laxfixes and/or different kernels were screwing up the update. I wonder if someone, somewhere, is getting fired over this fiasco LOL. Four phones replaced in one day.....
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Just to be fair to tmobile, it was rooted. I had titanium backup on there to uninstall the meego stuff, the in flight internet stuff, the sims 3 (170MB if I recall correctly), AVATAR but the goal was to uninstall the stuff that was clearly advertising and such. It wasn't taken to the level of having TEH NEXUS WON or a "Stock ROM".
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I have a Samsung Vibrant. I had installed Assassins Creed, NOVA, Geocaching app, did the GPS fix from the secret screen. This is all pretty much stock stuff, I've only had the phone a month. This morning I woke up and it said "THERES AN UPDATE TO YOUR PHONE". I was like ****ING A RIGHT THERE IS. So I clicked next and took a shower.
Phone is stuck at the VIBRANT - SAMSUNG Screen. Since I had been in the bathroom about half an hour for the three Ss, I know it had half an hour to get this right. Rebooting the phone gives me the happy crappy jingle (yeah, still stock jingles) and then the phone hangs. Accessing the (stock) system restore screen and clearing both user and cached data did nothing, so I grabbed my kid and went to the Tmobile store. People tend to be more helpful when you're annoying them with babies.
They did the same thing, then they got on their super secret tech support line. The guy did a lot of Mmmhmming and reset the phone a few times and said it was dead. Then he handed the phone to me. They asked if I overclocked the phone with voodoo (something or other). No. They asked if I had task-killers installed (Advanced Task Killer) and if it was set to kill anything automatically. I said no. They asked me what I had installed since I got the phone. I'm not a poweruser here, I hadn't really had the time to dig into it nor the inclination figuring the update was in the pipe, so I gave them a list. I asked if they could see what was installed, she said they could not, hence the questions.
At this point they offered to ship me a new device, and lent me a new phone. The shipping, unlike other laments on the forums, is free IF you don't take their offer to upgrade.
I got off the phone with them and let my kid eat the displays for a bit - apparently I'm *phone number four* they've had come in today to be sent back. Tmobile knows they have an issue and they are replacing the phones for free so long as you're not that far off the reservation. Now, I'm guessing there's not four people who read these forums and mess around with their phones out here in the sticks, so even the stock phones are getting killed here. If it kills my wifes phone (and she is absolutely stock, GPS crap and all) then I'll know there seriously is a problem. The technician advised me not to update the phone until further notice, I'm inclined just to be a PITA and keep doing it as motivation to at very least pull the update.
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Yep I just got back from TMO store. Mine was bricked PERIOD. "would not power up" Mine should be here Weds. I paid the $10 for express Ship and they gave me a loner.
Bye folks! I will miss you all. This phone started out well because I like the hardware. It feels nice in the hands. But I am tired of waiting for Moto to unlock the bootloader. They promised they would in late 2011. No word yet. Anyways, I am going back to HTC DINC2 for some CM love. If I wanted to get stuck with OEM crapware on my smartphone, I would have bought the iCrap. But I like the freedom. I have tried Eclipse, and it just seems like the best a dev can do with his hands tied, which is not good enough. This phone should be OC'd, should have many more abilities as far as android goes, but devs can only do so much. I am not blaming them or the community. They are all great. But Moto can lick the bottom of my nutsack for all I care. I hate HTC hardware, it feels cheap, but at least it is unlocked. or can be unlocked easily. Anyways, just thought I would leave my one last post on this forum. Take care everyone!
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Bye folks! I will miss you all. This phone started out well because I like the hardware. It feels nice in the hands. But I am tired of waiting for Moto to unlock the bootloader. They promised they would in late 2011. No word yet. Anyways, I am going back to HTC DINC2 for some CM love. If I wanted to get stuck with OEM crapware on my smartphone, I would have bought the iCrap. But I like the freedom. I have tried Eclipse, and it just seems like the best a dev can do with his hands tied, which is not good enough. This phone should be OC'd, should have many more abilities as far as android goes, but devs can only do so much. I am not blaming them or the community. They are all great. But Moto can lick the bottom of my nutsack for all I care. I hate HTC hardware, it feels cheap, but at least it is unlocked. or can be unlocked easily. Anyways, just thought I would leave my one last post on this forum. Take care everyone!
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Htc has great build quality. You'll be pleased. Later!
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My mom has the Incredible 2, first thing I said before we got root for our phone when we were still on 2.2 that here phone was significantly faster/smoother than mine!
Ummm Ok? Gotta love these teenage drama OMG FU (insert latest life disappointment) threads. Grow up! Its a phone and you knew what you were getting when you bought it. You got several options. Leave, Develop or Wait (patiently like the majority here). You seem to have choose the first so take care.
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Bye folks! I will miss you all. This phone started out well because I like the hardware. It feels nice in the hands. But I am tired of waiting for Moto to unlock the bootloader. They promised they would in late 2011. No word yet. Anyways, I am going back to HTC DINC2 for some CM love. If I wanted to get stuck with OEM crapware on my smartphone, I would have bought the iCrap. But I like the freedom. I have tried Eclipse, and it just seems like the best a dev can do with his hands tied, which is not good enough. This phone should be OC'd, should have many more abilities as far as android goes, but devs can only do so much. I am not blaming them or the community. They are all great. But Moto can lick the bottom of my nutsack for all I care. I hate HTC hardware, it feels cheap, but at least it is unlocked. or can be unlocked easily. Anyways, just thought I would leave my one last post on this forum. Take care everyone!
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Did you -REALLY- think the X2 was going to get an unlocked bootloader? Seriously they announced they will unlock (future ones in development) but never ever said they would do anything for devices in production.. If you did, then you bought the wrong phone and stop putting the blame on Motorola. As for the phone, I have been pleased, works well, fast..
My only gripe was it was released with Froyo, had no front facing camera, and was 3g instead of 4g.. I do hope someone figures out how to unlock it, but I'm not "Waiting for Moto to Unlock" because I expect them NOT to..
So good for you, you now should go buy a phone that you'll like more.. Now that months and months have gone by there are some really good ones out there (for a price)..
I don't blame you for leaving the X2 it's a POS because of Motorola. Learn the lesson don't buy from them again. Good luck on your next phone.
Actually the ATRIX is an insane phone so moto isn't a pos. Eventually they will give in.
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davwman said:
Actually the ATRIX is an insane phone so moto isn't a pos. Eventually they will give in.
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Eventually. That time frame doesn't suit anyone.
my x2 has run great the entire time i've had the phone, it was pretty laggy in froyo but compared to the froyo on my old lg ally the x2 screams. and gingerbread made it way quicker. 2.3.4 improved everything for me including battery life. i want the bootloader unlocked as bad as anyone else but, i think it will happen eventually, i'm stick'n with my phone and my current contract because i've got an unlimited plan for another 14 months or so, i'm sure as hell not throwing that away just for an unlocked bootloader.
It is not just until the end of your contract, every time you renew you keep your original terms. I know this because I was the one who upgraded my moms phone as she is on my plan. I am eligible for upgrade as of yesterday, specifically asked the rep from Verizon and they told me I still keep it. But, I don't like the Bionic, so I will wait
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It is not just until the end of your contract, every time you renew you keep your original terms. I know this because I was the one who upgraded my moms phone as she is on my plan. I am eligible for upgrade as of yesterday, specifically asked the rep from Verizon and they told me I still keep it. But, I don't like the Bionic, so I will wait
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The prime and vigor are looking mighty awesome.
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Not to mention 4G goes hot here in the "Michiana" (Mishawaka, South Bend, Osceola, Granger, Goshen, Elkhart, Middlebury, Niles, Edwardsburg, Notre Lame, Roseland) metro area a week from today
Lol I said the same thing to the x2 in the end. Stock touchwiz out performs the x2 regardless of the roms and scripts.
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Not the stock touchwiz on my fascinate.
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jpp44345 said:
Bye folks! I will miss you all. This phone started out well because I like the hardware. It feels nice in the hands. But I am tired of waiting for Moto to unlock the bootloader. They promised they would in late 2011. No word yet. Anyways, I am going back to HTC DINC2 for some CM love. If I wanted to get stuck with OEM crapware on my smartphone, I would have bought the iCrap. But I like the freedom. I have tried Eclipse, and it just seems like the best a dev can do with his hands tied, which is not good enough. This phone should be OC'd, should have many more abilities as far as android goes, but devs can only do so much. I am not blaming them or the community. They are all great. But Moto can lick the bottom of my nutsack for all I care. I hate HTC hardware, it feels cheap, but at least it is unlocked. or can be unlocked easily. Anyways, just thought I would leave my one last post on this forum. Take care everyone!
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Bye! Don't let the door hit you in the butt on way out! And by the way it is just now late 2011...did you expect something right at the beginning of the 4 th quarter of the year? That's crazy!(well believing moto would do it at all is crazy)
So I was sitting in my Jeep after coming back from getting pizza a minute ago and noticed that my phone was frozen when tried to change songs. I would press the honme button, nothing, press the back button, nothing. Then the screen would go black but not off. I could still put the phone to sleep by pushing the power button and the lock screen would still work when I would wake it up. but after being woken up the screen was still black. Now I removed and reinserted the battery and when it boots up it has no signal, doesnt seem to be activated, just the flashing triangle where the 3g symbol would be. Normally restarting the phone would fix the flashing triangle issue and 3g would work again but its starting to take more and more restarts to get that to work correctly.
So I found myself saying F* this phone. I have never had a phone that needed so many scripts and edits to get to work properly, this is the worst phone ever.
If the phone works properly WITH the scripts it is not the phone that is the problem.
Don't hate the phone. It's common knowledge that Motorola has their bootloades locked on the majority of their devices. Do some Google searches before making a decision, especially if you plan on modding/rooting your phone. You still turned out better than I did. My first android was the Sanyo Zio. TERRIBLE!!! So I gave it to my kid as a portable gaming device and cancelled service. Then I researched and bought the NS4G, and I love it!
booked said:
So I was sitting in my Jeep after coming back from getting pizza a minute ago and noticed that my phone was frozen when tried to change songs. I would press the honme button, nothing, press the back button, nothing. Then the screen would go black but not off. I could still put the phone to sleep by pushing the power button and the lock screen would still work when I would wake it up. but after being woken up the screen was still black. Now I removed and reinserted the battery and when it boots up it has no signal, doesnt seem to be activated, just the flashing triangle where the 3g symbol would be. Normally restarting the phone would fix the flashing triangle issue and 3g would work again but its starting to take more and more restarts to get that to work correctly.
So I found myself saying F* this phone. I have never had a phone that needed so many scripts and edits to get to work properly, this is the worst phone ever.
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rustymcbain said:
I just wanted to send out a big thank you to all the guys working hard to make this phone better. But sadly for me it is just not enough to keep me with android any longer. I have had enough of the **** android devices that are just completely unfinished before releasing. I hope they get their **** together and make some wonderful devices. I would never have thought that I'd be tapa talkin from an iPhone but Motorola htc and Samsung have pushed me to try one. I am so surprised at how well it works that I often wonder why I ever thought these were a pos. not trying to convert anyone at all just stating my personal surprise on the matter. Again thanks to everyone for making my experience at least tolerable for a while.
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Full moon tonight or something?
So currently I am running liberty3, and I don't know if it is the rom or not, but my phone has been overheating, freezing, and just being really god damn slow. It has been like this for a while now, I have even throw my phone out of frustration(because eclipse was the same way) and I have no what to do.
I am debating to just flash cm7, but heard it is still in beta, and I was wondering if people are using it even though there are bugs.
Really frustrated at the moment would appreciate some info...(1 more year on this contract before I can get rid of this POS...=/)
CM7 is very stable. As for it being "beta" cyanogen won't support it so until DZK figures a way to get around the bootloader it will keep the "beta" label.
Regarding the problems your having with your phone it sounds like it could be just that, problems with the phone, not the ROM. Eclipse and CM7 are the two most stable ROM's we have available and should not be the source of the kind of problems you describe.
And lastly remember CM7 runs on 2.3.4, it will give you fits if you try flashing it on 2.3.5.
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CM7 is quicker and more stable than any of the blur-based roms ever were on my phone, and all of them had a really irritating issue with bluetooth volume that CM7 fixed. I've been running on the same flash of beta 1 since January.
thanks for the replies guys, guess ill just flash cm7, and if I still have the same problems I can go talk to a verizon rep and see if I can get a replacement or somthing =/
this is actually making me laugh the stupid **** it's doing right now, I press play on a song, and the screen starts distorting, i exit and 90 seconds later the song starts playing, but then it pauses and the phone gets hot all of a sudden
how do you manage to **** up a phone this badly I just don't understand(I have owned this since 2011 may, it can't be a phone problem it just started happening 2-3 months ago)
Personally i hate people like you.... Why the hell should verizon send you a replacement for something youve ruined by throwing at a wall or across a room... Cm7 works fine but nothing will change the fact that abusing your electronics is your problem... You cant treat tech like that and expect it to keep working
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Personally i hate people like you.... Why the hell should verizon send you a replacement for something youve ruined by throwing at a wall or across a room... Cm7 works fine but nothing will change the fact that abusing your electronics is your problem... You cant treat tech like that and expect it to keep working
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Oh please. The droid x2 is one of the WORST developed android phones out right now. Not only that, the issues I have had with it came LONG before I actually "threw" it. Obviously I didn't baseball throw it into a concrete wall, but it wasn't even close enough to do damage. Verizon should send me a replacement because motorola has created a pretty pathetic excuse for a phone, or because I received a defective phone. Like I said, these issues have been going for FOREVER, and this phone in general has had issues since its release.
The phone isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. You would think that we got a brick in A box. But cm7 is very stable and works well for DD.
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I agree that the Droid X2 isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Any problems you have is either a defective phone or you flashed something the wrong way. Almost everyone who have these ROMs on their phones have no problems. So instead of blaming the phone and calling it crap, let us help you fix it.
First of all, as was mentioned already, CM7 and Eclipse are two of the most stable ROMs for this phone. Liberty was just a quick port and has not had any updates since its release. Honestly, I dont know why people still use it. The problem with Eclipse is that it is on a different kernel than every other ROM we have. So if you went from liberty to eclipse without changing the kernel to 2.3.5 first, you will experience problems. Did you install Eclipse by using the 2.3.5 SBF file first?
Or if you want the best of both world's I have eclipse 1.3. It runs on 2.3.4 kernel. These phones do get hot. What do you mean by overheat? Does it shut down or just feel hot?
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Sounds like luck of the draw to me. I for one do my very best not to abuse electronics because they are 1) fragile and 2) expensive to buy/repair. Keeping that in mind, I did, ONE TIME, get blackout drunk and from what I'm told, chucked my X2 at someone's head and then they stomped on it, screen facing up. Absolutely no physical damage at all. That however is very, very, very rare.
Generally in my personal experience, Motorola makes some solid phones. I've put the Droid X, X2, Droid 3 and the new RAZR through hell and they all held up on performance after being dropped, kicked and being tossed onto asphalt and concrete. The only one I actually got the break with a reasonable amount of force was the Droid 3.
I can also tell you that no two phones are created equally, ever. Why do you think every single person who owns a Nexus isn't currently on the same ROM/kernel combo? What is fast, smooth & has good battery for me might be choppy and fast to discharge for someone else. Just because your phone doesn't act how it should doesn't mean its the ROM. You could have gotten a lemon (it happens) or maybe you just damaged internals when you chucked it. Doesn't matter if you didn't throw it like a baseball. All you need to do is hit the right part with the right amount of force. That's all it takes.
Hell when I got Verizon to exchange my X2, they sent me a Stratosphere. The same day I got the phone I put it on silent and went to bed. Some asshole called me at 2:30am that night. I did not answer it. instead, I rolled back over and went to bed. The phone vibrated off of my nightstand. It fell all of about 2.5 feet onto my BED then another 5 or so inches onto my carpeted floor. The screen was completely cracked and totally 100% unresponsive. There absolutely is no minimum requirement for force or distance needed to break your phone. Simple as that.
I can relate to you in the sense that I went through a phase where I hated the X2 as well, so I'm not trying to bash you. Keep that in mind . Also keep in mind that ICS wasn't even out yet. In fact CM9 wasn't much more than a rumor. The only ROMs I had to chose from were Molten & Liberty (both unsupported), Eclipse and CM7. I guess MIUI was out already, but it was so far down in the dev forum I didn't even know it existed months after I got the phone. Now you guys have ports for Paranoid Android and AOKP? Come on man. If I'd known they were coming I would have never left and got a Stratosphere.
Not to mention that the famous X2 developer, Dragonzkiller, is not only working on kexec for your phone, he's making progress with it. If he happens to get it working and you could load any kernels you wanted that would open up development around here and you would see a lot more, fully functional ROMs. It isn't so bad. When dzk gets kexec working you will have a great phone in terms of specs and ROMs, man.
You think a locked bootloader is bad?? Haha at least you have ROMs besides stock. My stratosphere? Sure the BL wasn't locked, but the radio interface layer was. In case you didn't know, ROMs like cyanogen, aokp, paranoid android, miui, eclipse, etc. use custom RILs. What this means is that the less than 7 month old 4g phone I got as a replacement for my X2 had much less going on for it than your phone. We had a grand total of TWO ROMs and they were both based off of stock. Just mostly theme changes. Plus only 1 kernel that would let us over clock. Barely.
To answer your first question, yes. Dragonzkiller's release of cyanogen mod 7 is stable enough to be used as a daily driver for your X2. I used it as my daily ROM for about 99% of the time I owned the phone. The other 1% was me trying other ROMs. Generally in CM7, everything works. The only issue I had (from memory) was the WiFi sleep issue. However, another one of the talented X2 developers released a new build.prop mash up which helped. It didn't keep WiFi from disconnecting when the phone slept for long periods of time, but it did reconnect it before I had a chance to get a "No Data" error message.
So you're stuck with the X2 for another year. So what? I don't see what *****ing about it here will do you. What do you want us to say? You don't like the phone? Sorry.. We can't change that for you. If you had posted this topic in any other phones forum, they would have flamed the living sh*t out of you by now lol. So that's another plus. You're a part of the best forum on XDA. Hands down.:thumbup:. If you have any issues with your phone... something isn't working, you soft bricked it, you flashed cm7 over 2.3.5 and you don't know what to do, etc., there will be someone here 24/7 to KINDLY assist you and get you back up and running again. Why do you think all of us who got Dinc2's or GNex's still come around here? Great community with kind, helpful people. I dare you to go to another forum and post a noob "help me" thread somewhere and watch how many hateful, unhelpful, "search next time noob, there's stickies for a reason" replies you get. I missed the X2 so much when I was stuck on my Stratosphere. You think your phone lags? Try going from a dual core to a single core. Hahahahaha, THEN come talk to me about lag. XD.
The best I can do for you is say call Verizon and tell them you're having issues with the phone. As long as it's not visibly noticeable that you damaged it, go through tech supports steps and have them replace it with another X2 and give these ROMs another go. I would have been pissed if I had year to go on stock motoblur, but luckily I had cm7 to make things okay.
And hey, maybe you can get it exchanged. Who knows? Quite a few of us did. Just be careful as to what phone you accept. They sold the Strat to me like it was a brand new, top of the line phone. I stupidly accepted it right away, just happy to get off of the X2 only to realize I screwed myself. I pretty much had to give Verizon my left nut to get this GNex, and that was my favorite one.
Besides "sorry for the long post" - that's all i have to say. Good luck.
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RoyJ said:
Sounds like luck of the draw to me. I for one do my very best not to abuse electronics because they are 1) fragile and 2) expensive to buy/repair. Keeping that in mind, I did, ONE TIME, get blackout drunk and from what I'm told, chucked my X2 at someone's head and then they stomped on it, screen facing up. Absolutely no physical damage at all. That however is very, very, very rare.
Generally in my personal experience, Motorola makes some solid phones. I've put the Droid X, X2, Droid 3 and the new RAZR through hell and they all held up on performance after being dropped, kicked and being tossed onto asphalt and concrete. The only one I actually got the break with a reasonable amount of force was the Droid 3.
I can also tell you that no two phones are created equally, ever. Why do you think every single person who owns a Nexus isn't currently on the same ROM/kernel combo? What is fast, smooth & has good battery for me might be choppy and fast to discharge for someone else. Just because your phone doesn't act how it should doesn't mean its the ROM. You could have gotten a lemon (it happens) or maybe you just damaged internals when you chucked it. Doesn't matter if you didn't throw it like a baseball. All you need to do is hit the right part with the right amount of force. That's all it takes.
Hell when I got Verizon to exchange my X2, they sent me a Stratosphere. The same day I got the phone I put it on silent and went to bed. Some asshole called me at 2:30am that night. I did not answer it. instead, I rolled back over and went to bed. The phone vibrated off of my nightstand. It fell all of about 2.5 feet onto my BED then another 5 or so inches onto my carpeted floor. The screen was completely cracked and totally 100% unresponsive. There absolutely is no minimum requirement for force or distance needed to break your phone. Simple as that.
I can relate to you in the sense that I went through a phase where I hated the X2 as well, so I'm not trying to bash you. Keep that in mind . Also keep in mind that ICS wasn't even out yet. In fact CM9 wasn't much more than a rumor. The only ROMs I had to chose from were Molten & Liberty (both unsupported), Eclipse and CM7. I guess MIUI was out already, but it was so far down in the dev forum I didn't even know it existed months after I got the phone. Now you guys have ports for Paranoid Android and AOKP? Come on man. If I'd known they were coming I would have never left and got a Stratosphere.
Not to mention that the famous X2 developer, Dragonzkiller, is not only working on kexec for your phone, he's making progress with it. If he happens to get it working and you could load any kernels you wanted that would open up development around here and you would see a lot more, fully functional ROMs. It isn't so bad. When dzk gets kexec working you will have a great phone in terms of specs and ROMs, man.
You think a locked bootloader is bad?? Haha at least you have ROMs besides stock. My stratosphere? Sure the BL wasn't locked, but the radio interface layer was. In case you didn't know, ROMs like cyanogen, aokp, paranoid android, miui, eclipse, etc. use custom RILs. What this means is that the less than 7 month old 4g phone I got as a replacement for my X2 had much less going on for it than your phone. We had a grand total of TWO ROMs and they were both based off of stock. Just mostly theme changes. Plus only 1 kernel that would let us over clock. Barely.
To answer your first question, yes. Dragonzkiller's release of cyanogen mod 7 is stable enough to be used as a daily driver for your X2. I used it as my daily ROM for about 99% of the time I owned the phone. The other 1% was me trying other ROMs. Generally in CM7, everything works. The only issue I had (from memory) was the WiFi sleep issue. However, another one of the talented X2 developers released a new build.prop mash up which helped. It didn't keep WiFi from disconnecting when the phone slept for long periods of time, but it did reconnect it before I had a chance to get a "No Data" error message.
So you're stuck with the X2 for another year. So what? I don't see what *****ing about it here will do you. What do you want us to say? You don't like the phone? Sorry.. We can't change that for you. If you had posted this topic in any other phones forum, they would have flamed the living sh*t out of you by now lol. So that's another plus. You're a part of the best forum on XDA. Hands down.:thumbup:. If you have any issues with your phone... something isn't working, you soft bricked it, you flashed cm7 over 2.3.5 and you don't know what to do, etc., there will be someone here 24/7 to KINDLY assist you and get you back up and running again. Why do you think all of us who got Dinc2's or GNex's still come around here? Great community with kind, helpful people. I dare you to go to another forum and post a noob "help me" thread somewhere and watch how many hateful, unhelpful, "search next time noob, there's stickies for a reason" replies you get. I missed the X2 so much when I was stuck on my Stratosphere. You think your phone lags? Try going from a dual core to a single core. Hahahahaha, THEN come talk to me about lag. XD.
The best I can do for you is say call Verizon and tell them you're having issues with the phone. As long as it's not visibly noticeable that you damaged it, go through tech supports steps and have them replace it with another X2 and give these ROMs another go. I would have been pissed if I had year to go on stock motoblur, but luckily I had cm7 to make things okay.
And hey, maybe you can get it exchanged. Who knows? Quite a few of us did. Just be careful as to what phone you accept. They sold the Strat to me like it was a brand new, top of the line phone. I stupidly accepted it right away, just happy to get off of the X2 only to realize I screwed myself. I pretty much had to give Verizon my left nut to get this GNex, and that was my favorite one.
Besides "sorry for the long post" - that's all i have to say. Good luck.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707
If you are going to take your phone into Verizon, follow these instructions to get your phone back to stock. This will remove root and make it like you just bought your phone. Who knows, maybe it will fix the problems you have as well. Try it out and if your issues continue, take it in.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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**** run aokp on this phone and tell me if u dont like it
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morlakai said:
Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Basically you would need to SBF your phone. SBF stands for system boot file, I believe. It is the complete stock factory image for your phone. That plus a data wipe/factory reset and they will have no idea you ever rooted it.
As for having it for a year, you may run into a problem there. Motorola might cover the X2 for two years, I'm not sure. Your warranty could be expired. You have to call Verizon to know for sure. If it's not expired just tell them that you're having whatever issues. They will run you through some steps, probably a data wipe, amongst other things. You tell them that no, none of the steps were able to fix the problems you are currently facing. At this point, if the phone is still under warranty they will go ahead and replace it for you. If not they will tell you to go through insurance, if you have it.
If not you're either going to have to pay for another phone off contract from a third party or stick with the one you have now.
If you still have warranty and really want to get a different phone, just tell them that you did plenty of research independently online and it would seem that no amount of X2s will fix the problems you have. That they seem to be due to poor coding at Motorola's end. That's what I did. Just remember to look up the phone they offer you as a replacement so you don't get burned like me. Not just the specs, but here on xda and rootzwiki as well. Make sure there's a development forum for it with plenty of selections for ROMs and kernels before you make your choice.
I was able to not only get rid of my X2 like that, but the Stratosphere as well. The one I had less than a month hahaha. If you're covered by warranty give it a shot.
P.S. The most frustrated I have ever been with a piece of electronics? My PlayStation 2 slim. I had a few of them, but there was one in particular that pissed me off. It slowly but surely stopped reading my discs. 1 at a time. It would read a game, I'd go to bed and the next day it wouldn't read that game anymore. It could play other games, but not that one. It got progressively worse until the only disc of any format it would read was SOCOM: Combined Assault. Wasn't too bad, it'd give me trouble every now and then, but it was the only disc it would play for months. Socom also happened to be my favorite game at the time and I played it all the time with my cousins and friends from school. We were all in a clan and we ran that game. Anyways I was with a bunch of guys one day and we were in the middle of a clan war. Ladder match. We made it all the way to the top, and my PS2 stopped reading socom. I tried frantically to get it working again, but it was useless. The laser finally crapped out. In a blind rage knowing the PS2 just cost us our biggest clan war ever, I threw it out of my second story window. I then proceeded to go outside with a hammer and utterly destroy it.
I had just gotten a job and was working, so I had to buy a new one. Lesson learned. Those *****es were expensive lol. Never did anything like that again.
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Getting frustrated is very easy to do and really don't help much. Want some senseless humor, read a few pages back in Off Topic and read my rants. I was ready to trash my new Gnex.
Just take a breather and ask for a hand. We are all like one big dysfunctional family. I've yet to see anyone be neglected that has needed help.
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Getting frustrated is very easy to do and really don't help much. Want some senless humor, read a few pages back in Off Topic and read my rants. I was ready to trash my new Gnex.
Just take a breather and ask for a hand. We are all like one big dysfunctional family. I've yet to see anyone be neglected that has needed help.
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What was the problem with the nexus?
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What was the problem with the nexus?
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To this day I still don't know. Maybe user error, but I think it is tempermental. I literally had to wipe the hell out of it before I could flash the first rom. At one point I wiped everything so many times, I really thought it was over. But all of a sudden it decided to work and hasn't missed a beat since. Now, I don't wipe anything on it anymore. It runs like a sewing machine.
CM7 is still rockin' on 2 of the X2's that I loaded and themed out.
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So currently I am running liberty3, and I don't know if it is the rom or not, but my phone has been overheating, freezing, and just being really god damn slow. It has been like this for a while now, I have even throw my phone out of frustration(because eclipse was the same way) and I have no what to do.
I am debating to just flash cm7, but heard it is still in beta, and I was wondering if people are using it even though there are bugs.
Really frustrated at the moment would appreciate some info...(1 more year on this contract before I can get rid of this POS...=/)
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As far as overheating is concerned you may want to look at adobe flash. Using the latest version caused issues for me and I gave had to revert back to a previous version. As others have mentioned going with CM7 or eclipse will make a huge difference. I have had 3 other smartphones with vzw and this was the best one so far.
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RoyJ said:
Basically you would need to SBF your phone. SBF stands for system boot file, I believe. It is the complete stock factory image for your phone. That plus a data wipe/factory reset and they will have no idea you ever rooted it.
As for having it for a year, you may run into a problem there. Motorola might cover the X2 for two years, I'm not sure. Your warranty could be expired. You have to call Verizon to know for sure. If it's not expired just tell them that you're having whatever issues. They will run you through some steps, probably a data wipe, amongst other things. You tell them that no, none of the steps were able to fix the problems you are currently facing. At this point, if the phone is still under warranty they will go ahead and replace it for you. If not they will tell you to go through insurance, if you have it.
If not you're either going to have to pay for another phone off contract from a third party or stick with the one you have now.
If you still have warranty and really want to get a different phone, just tell them that you did plenty of research independently online and it would seem that no amount of X2s will fix the problems you have. That they seem to be due to poor coding at Motorola's end. That's what I did. Just remember to look up the phone they offer you as a replacement so you don't get burned like me. Not just the specs, but here on xda and rootzwiki as well. Make sure there's a development forum for it with plenty of selections for ROMs and kernels before you make your choice.
I was able to not only get rid of my X2 like that, but the Stratosphere as well. The one I had less than a month hahaha. If you're covered by warranty give it a shot.
P.S. The most frustrated I have ever been with a piece of electronics? My PlayStation 2 slim. I had a few of them, but there was one in particular that pissed me off. It slowly but surely stopped reading my discs. 1 at a time. It would read a game, I'd go to bed and the next day it wouldn't read that game anymore. It could play other games, but not that one. It got progressively worse until the only disc of any format it would read was SOCOM: Combined Assault. Wasn't too bad, it'd give me trouble every now and then, but it was the only disc it would play for months. Socom also happened to be my favorite game at the time and I played it all the time with my cousins and friends from school. We were all in a clan and we ran that game. Anyways I was with a bunch of guys one day and we were in the middle of a clan war. Ladder match. We made it all the way to the top, and my PS2 stopped reading socom. I tried frantically to get it working again, but it was useless. The laser finally crapped out. In a blind rage knowing the PS2 just cost us our biggest clan war ever, I threw it out of my second story window. I then proceeded to go outside with a hammer and utterly destroy it.
I had just gotten a job and was working, so I had to buy a new one. Lesson learned. Those *****es were expensive lol. Never did anything like that again.
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ah ok, yeah I know how to SBF, so I will most likely do that and go to the verizon store to see what's up
if they offer me a replacement phone, I guess ill just ask them to give me a few days to make a decision so I can do research and find out if I am getting ripped off or not
thanks for all the replies guys, I know I come off as kind of an ass(ill be honest im pretty douchey) but this phone has transformed me into something T_T
cm7 is a good rom. Fast too! Since it is still based on the 2.3.4 kernel it has the orientation sensor bug too though.
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I want to start off by saying im sorry to all of the EVO LTE community as I was a firm believer that the EVO was a bad product. I work for Sprint and see a lot of EVO LTE come through the door with the connectivity issue and they need to be replaced, so i passed judgement and for that I apologize. That being said I am not an iSuck user I come from the EVO 4g to S2 to S3. I owe all of the credit to the S2 for all I know now and have tried to learn, As i soft bricked 2 days after ownig the device and that is how my passion ( obsession ) for android and this community began. Qbking77 saved my life then and since I have been learning and teaching people everything I can about all of these phones.
Now to present I use 2 phones 1 for business 1 for home life and i had 2 S3 when I had posted 1 on cl for the wife to trade for an iSuck5 when someone shot me an offer i couldnt refuse, his EVO LTE and Nexus7 tab for my S3 needless to say I told my wife I was trading her phone lmfao haha sorry hun, she letting me do my phone was like whatever. I started playing with the EVO trying to learn to root it frustrated cause I couldnt get the oneclicks to work so I decided to venture off into the adb world I try to stay away from but with luck and patients got her rooted and started playing with roms setups and what not, MAN AM I IMPRESSED!!!!!! :laugh:
So XDA and fellow EVOLTE's I apologize for not giving this phone a chance until now!
PS: I love both of my phones S3 and EVO , and tab lol , and now believ that these devices are very close in comparison with each device having there own leg up.
So YOU'RE the reason our community is so small??!!
Apology accepted.
Lol
Glad you like it.
hurled from my AOKP'd Evo LTE. Enjoy.
*claps* escort this man from the premises
It's a solid phone but more for the advanced power users. I say advanced because even regular power users have trouble understanding this phone. It's a great all around device. Now if sprint could fix their ehrpd issues. I thought it was an issue with the evos but I've had to do the airplane trick with my evo, my gf's evo, my sister's s3, and my cousin's iphone 5
I'm in the process of trying to get rid of this phone and go back to an s3... After months of loading screens and waiting literally a minute to pull up a text message(and this is after I've cleaned out my texts) I'm done with this device, it's a shame because the specs are awesome! SENSE just cripples the phone. And I should not have to root a device to get it to accomplish basic functions properly. I've been an android user since the G1 and I have rooted every phone I've had since... But now I don't feel like should have to resort to that. Flashing is an obsession I would rather like to stay away from..lol I got my insurance through radio shack and at the store they said I have a 50/50 chance of receiving a gift card that I could use to go and buy the phone of my choice, or they would send me a new EVOLTE.. I'm hoping for the gift card, so I can go back to the S3.
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I'm in the process of trying to get rid of this phone and go back to an s3... After months of loading screens and waiting literally a minute to pull up a text message(and this is after I've cleaned out my texts) I'm done with this device, it's a shame because the specs are awesome! SENSE just cripples the phone. And I should not have to root a device to get it to accomplish basic functions properly. I've been an android user since the G1 and I have rooted every phone I've had since... But now I don't feel like should have to resort to that. Flashing is an obsession I would rather like to stay away from..lol I got my insurance through radio shack and at the store they said I have a 50/50 chance of receiving a gift card that I could use to go and buy the phone of my choice, or they would send me a new EVOLTE.. I'm hoping for the gift card, so I can go back to the S3.
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I love the specs of my EVO LTE. I HATEEEE the Mobile performance. As of today I have switched back to my HTC EVO 4G (non LTE) because I can't take a phone that is not able to switch to 4G and 3G properly...
I have tried every ROM and Mod i could find and nothing has fixed it. (im in Chicago Suburbs where there is decent LTE)
Ouch I believe I said I love both phones S3 and EVO and I'm not an advance user just an avid daily user of any and all things smart phone!
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I'm in the process of trying to get rid of this phone and go back to an s3... After months of loading screens and waiting literally a minute to pull up a text message(and this is after I've cleaned out my texts) I'm done with this device, it's a shame because the specs are awesome! SENSE just cripples the phone. And I should not have to root a device to get it to accomplish basic functions properly. I've been an android user since the G1 and I have rooted every phone I've had since... But now I don't feel like should have to resort to that. Flashing is an obsession I would rather like to stay away from..lol I got my insurance through radio shack and at the store they said I have a 50/50 chance of receiving a gift card that I could use to go and buy the phone of my choice, or they would send me a new EVOLTE.. I'm hoping for the gift card, so I can go back to the S3.
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I've been rooted for a little while now, but completely agree that you should not have to flash a phone for it to work. However, the thing I loved about this phone when I first got it was that it worked as it was advertised. I never had those text problems, or any slowness of any kind. Loved it. The only issue I did occasionally hit before rooting was sense reloads. But fixed that now.
I've played with my sister's giii. It's definitely a nice phone. And I wish I had the ram that phone had. But otherwise, I like this screen better, and overall design.
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I'm in the process of trying to get rid of this phone and go back to an s3... After months of loading screens and waiting literally a minute to pull up a text message(and this is after I've cleaned out my texts) I'm done with this device, it's a shame because the specs are awesome! SENSE just cripples the phone. And I should not have to root a device to get it to accomplish basic functions properly. I've been an android user since the G1 and I have rooted every phone I've had since... But now I don't feel like should have to resort to that. Flashing is an obsession I would rather like to stay away from..lol I got my insurance through radio shack and at the store they said I have a 50/50 chance of receiving a gift card that I could use to go and buy the phone of my choice, or they would send me a new EVOLTE.. I'm hoping for the gift card, so I can go back to the S3.
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Two of my friends, along with myself, have the LTEvo. None of us have experienced any of the issues you mentioned. My phone is rooted with a custom ROM, my friend is rooted with the stock ROM, and my other buddy is 100% stock (not rooted). All three of our phones run like beasts. I think you may have just gotten a bad phone. Not every unit is going to be flawless. Out of the millions of phones built by any manufacturer there are definitely going to be a percentage that just don't work. Unfortunately, you are the recipient of one of these lemons. Don't blame the overall phone. Blame that one specific unit. The LTEvo is an amazing phone. One of my best friends, and fellow technophiles, has the GS3. He has given me a tour of it and has let me test drive it. I can guarantee that the LTEvo is just as awesome as the GS3.
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I'm in the process of trying to get rid of this phone and go back to an s3... After months of loading screens and waiting literally a minute to pull up a text message(and this is after I've cleaned out my texts) I'm done with this device, it's a shame because the specs are awesome! SENSE just cripples the phone. And I should not have to root a device to get it to accomplish basic functions properly. I've been an android user since the G1 and I have rooted every phone I've had since... But now I don't feel like should have to resort to that. Flashing is an obsession I would rather like to stay away from..lol I got my insurance through radio shack and at the store they said I have a 50/50 chance of receiving a gift card that I could use to go and buy the phone of my choice, or they would send me a new EVOLTE.. I'm hoping for the gift card, so I can go back to the S3.
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Have you even tried replacing it? Those aren't normal issues. My evo ran flawless. I decided to root it just to further push its limits but I had no issues prior to that.
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Hi,
I searched this topic and got a couple of hits but I have a couple of specific questions about this.
My phone is rooted and S-OFF (and everthing else it says in my sig) I been having problems for quite some time now and I'm so fed up with this phone (and losing faith in HTC just because of it) that I even considered melting it with my oxiacetilene torch.
So before having another one of those episodes I think I'd like to try to send it to HTC to see if they can repair it.
I bought it from Negri Electronics and I'm using it in central america so I don't think I have any waranty cover.
My question is do I need to revert it to stock before I send it or they would look at it if I send it as is now?
Is there any type of warranty for me?
What should I do? (Just in case, my phone suffers of a severe black screen issue that it does not go away even with stock RUU)
Sometimes I need to press the power button like 20 times to get the screen on ( this is the thread on my problem) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2067514&highlight=black+screen
I'm pretty sure it has to be HW related because it used to work ok but one day started acting out (got corrupted after a complete battery drain) and since that day it never worked well again. I tried different roms and none of them make it go away not even in stock ruu.
Thanks for any info
Jose (the developer of some of the aokp and cm roms) has added a flash able for allowing the camera button to wake the screen.. Try that first.. Read up..
Also tmobile ics wakes on camera press
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What do you mean I can't say that??!!.. It's the fkin Internet!
Thanks, the NRG rom does that too but I get the same result just capacitive lights coming on (and only half of them the other half have gone bad)
I think I'll revert to stock and give them a call to see what they say and if they can give me a quote for the repair.
Finally today my screen died completely.
The phone works but the screen is dead, I sent an email to HTC we'll see if they can quote me for the repair and if it's worth the trouble.
The only problem is that my phone is S-Off and unlocked so I don't know if they will repair it.:fingers-crossed:
After talking with CS they told me that changing the screen would cost $145 but if they need to change the whole MB it would go up to $340 so I just decided not to do it and risk buying one in fleabay, we'll see how this one works out.
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After talking with CS they told me that changing the screen would cost $145 but if they need to change the whole MB it would go up to $340 so I just decided not to do it and risk buying one in fleabay, we'll see how this one works out.
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if you're fed up with htc, why are you considering a M7
I think you must re-read my post ...
and I'm so fed up with this phone (and losing faith in HTC just because of it
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but anyway to answer your question I put that in my signature sometime ago (even before they started calling it HTC ONE when it was just a rumor of a phone), at that time I thought my problem was software related and not the screen agonizing, and anyway it seems like HTC seems to be the lesser of two evils.
I've had HTC phones for the last 6 years or so and I don't know where to go, I keep reading about Samsungs and the new experias but I always come back to what I know.
That's the reason I got this second cheap Amaze to hopefully last me another year and by then have a more clear view of how things moved with HTC and the market in general before I puke another $800+ in a phone.
I was waiting for the S4 anouncement but I'm not impressed with the specs, lots of nice gadgets but they are not good for what I'm looking in a phone.
Sony Experia... I know nothing of Sony phones, I'm reading as much as I can to learn about them, development availability and other factors
WOOHOO!!!!! I'm back online!!!!!
After the death of my Amaze I bought another one on the bay (cheaper than sending mine to HTC to get it repaired) and I just got it.
After going through the whole unlocking/rooting s-off, and other tweaks Ifinally got a phone again.
I was getting sick of the Moto razr V3 I was using.