hi...
i bought this cool lookin xperia x10i for INR 30,000(indian rupee).thats really a premium price
But since x10i has 3g ,it was very weird for not findin anythin called "video call" on the fone
can we make video calls on xperia>>>???
also there was no market app in my phone!!
nw i am feelin like pissed off,since payin such a hefty price n not havin features that u want and also since samsung lauched their galaxy with features not found in xperia,such as
good battery life(wher xperia fails miserably)
amoled screen
for 29,000!!!
wheres my multi touch!!
wheres my 16M screen??
whers my value for money!!
The X10 does not have the proper drivers implemented to support 16M colors or Multi-Touch. Also, unless you're going to implement a second video camera into the front of your phone, you're not going to be able to make video calls either.
Good news is that Q1 2011 you will get Multi-Touch through an over-the-air update due to be released by SE (or so they say).
you can use Fring for video call and keep a mirror behind the phone for others to see you
XD did you read anywhere that the X10 have 16m Colors and MT before you buyed it? The X10 Hardware support 16m Colors and MT but nobody said it is enabled but MT will be enabled in Q1 like said and maybe 16m Colors too they just disabled it for better Battery life. How can you say the X10 Battery Life is poor i charged my Phone last time 3 Days ago and still have 35-40% Battery. The Market App has something to do with Google becouse Market wasnt enabled or not fully in India they enabled it 3-4 Weeks ago i think, so maybe you need to do an Update or something. Do you have Android 2.1 on your X10? If it doesnt work with the Market i can upload you my Market.apk.
sorry man, but as a consumer you should definately check out the specs before you throw your hard-earned money away
ratheen said:
you can use Fring for video call and keep a mirror behind the phone for others to see you
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LOL. THIS. Are you serious
Wolfbreak said:
XD did you read anywhere that the X10 have 16m Colors and MT before you buyed it? The X10 Hardware support 16m Colors and MT but nobody said it is enabled but MT will be enabled in Q1 like said and maybe 16m Colors too they just disabled it for better Battery life. How can you say the X10 Battery Life is poor i charged my Phone last time 3 Days ago and still have 35-40% Battery. The Market App has something to do with Google becouse Market wasnt enabled or not fully in India they enabled it 3-4 Weeks ago i think, so maybe you need to do an Update or something. Do you have Android 2.1 on your X10? If it doesnt work with the Market i can upload you my Market.apk.
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i ve read revies from phone sites,n saw the 16M thing..from my experience,the battery is pretty bad.I ve updated my phone to 2.1 that was A BIG RELEIF!!.
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sorry man, but as a consumer you should definately check out the specs before you throw your hard-earned money away
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dude am not saying that the fone is a total flop.all the major review sites hav given a good score for xperia.by the way 2.1 update was a releif.
t3ej4y said:
LOL. THIS. Are you serious
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I know it really sounds like a stupid thing to do, and i have not done it so far, but check this out.
Also, if you really want to video call but don't have a front facing camera, this is really the next best thing.
Mirror Accessory here:
http://playmass.com/en/
Fring Video Call Info here:
http://www.fring.com/default.php
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Hi, I have been in a constant debate with myself whether to get the Fuze(AT&T version of Raphael) or get an Xperia X1 when it comes out. However I have recently decided to go with the Fuze.
I was wondering is there anyway to take the 9 panel application on the X1 called Xperia and put it on the Fuze. I'm talking about keeping the original rom of the Fuze but adding this Xperia as an extra application? By saying "adding it as an application" I mean, I'm ok with flashing the rom, but I just want to be able to use the Fuze like how it is and access the Xperia at will. If you could have both without having to pick one or the other.
Surely this is possible since the fuze has a little bit better hardware and the Xperia software is made by HTC. Please let me know if this is at all possible, because I believe that would make the best phone, combining these two.
*Edit: Well, I have recently learned that the X1 had a ram update increasing it to 384mb, so I guess I'm going with it now. Still curious though if it would be possible to put xperia on the fuse?
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Yes you can download the apllication 9 panel from the sony experia x1 to htc touch pro. I did it today. The application is downloable on wmpoweruser.com.
The name of the application is Dynamo 3.
While wmpoweruser is a great site =p you don't have to go that far...
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420220
thanks to both of you for responding, but I looked up both dynamo's you posted, 2 and 3. They are both not actually what I was looking for. I was more or less talking about extracting the actual xperia from the x1 and seeing if it could be applied to the Fuze. Reason for this is so the Fuze could run the xperia applications and so through the xperia panel window you could download more.
Like i posted earlier I decided to go with the xperia anyways, but it would still be cool for other people.
There's a reason they're giving the Xperia 384 MB of RAM, that panel setup is more of a memory hog than TF3D! Keep that in mind if you want to put it on the touch pro, it will run like hell and lag every time it rotates (even the Xperia lags when it rotates landscape to potrait in panel mode!)
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There's a reason they're giving the Xperia 384 MB of RAM, that panel setup is more of a memory hog than TF3D! Keep that in mind if you want to put it on the touch pro, it will run like hell and lag every time it rotates (even the Xperia lags when it rotates landscape to potrait in panel mode!)
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Yeah I agree with you, but you mentioned that the xperia lags everytime it rotates...are you sure? Every video on the internet (including the one the designer has on the webcast under a month ago) is running off the original build of the xperia. The original build of it had 128mb. The designer even admitted that the one he is running (that lagged a good bit) is the one from march. In march it was definitely still 128mb. Seeing that it's had a 256mb update since then, I doubt it's gonna lag much. It has more ram than any phone I've heard of coming to the US, and 3 times the ram surely won't make it lag as near as much.
Even on youtube video which was uploaded on September 15th, which was when it still had 256mb and not the final rom barely lagged. You can notice a much bigger difference from all the other videos and this isn't even as fast as it is now.
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Yeah I agree with you, but you mentioned that the xperia lags everytime it rotates...are you sure? Every video on the internet (including the one the designer has on the webcast under a month ago) is running off the original build of the xperia. The original build of it had 128mb. The designer even admitted that the one he is running (that lagged a good bit) is the one from march. In march it was definitely still 128mb. Seeing that it's had a 256mb update since then, I doubt it's gonna lag much. It has more ram than any phone I've heard of coming to the US, and 3 times the ram surely won't make it lag as near as much.
Even on youtube video which was uploaded on September 15th, which was when it still had 256mb and not the final rom barely lagged. You can notice a much bigger difference from all the other videos and this isn't even as fast as it is now.
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How about this video of the Xperia being taken out of retail packaging, 4 days ago, and it lags when it rotates? Check it... Towards the end.
http://miniurl.org/2qL
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How about this video of the Xperia being taken out of retail packaging, 4 days ago, and it lags when it rotates? Check it... Towards the end.
http://miniurl.org/2qL
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Yes I know exactly the one you're talking about. That is the one with sweeden or Russian language in the bottom left corner with red lining? That was actually posted over a month ago, just not on youtube until recently. I saw it when it was first posted i think near the beginning of September. The final phone still hasn't been viewed by the public because it was shipped out of the wear house on September 30th and it takes about a week for any of the stores to get it. Only the people working on the xperia x1 have the final release of the phone. We should start seeing the recent version, with the 128mb increase from that video and with the final/stable rom, in about 4 more days.
-edit: I just saw your link, sorry about that but yeah that was the one i was talking about. It also just got posted on youtube today. And the language is actually in Czech, but yeah that was still posted when it had 256mb.
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Nice call that "they were shipped out on November 30th" and we're barely into October.
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Yeah well...one mess up in my response that was supposed to say september, and I'm gonna guess unless you have no knowledge of the entire xperia status, than you would assume that i meant September.
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Yeah well...one mess up in my response that was supposed to say september, and I'm gonna guess unless you have no knowledge of the entire xperia status, than you would assume that i meant September.
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I actually had no idea when they were releasing, my bad... I honestly didn't mean to be nit picking at words, I was just confused. I don't plan on buying the phone, so the release date to me isn't very important. If you find out if/when AT&T is getting a phone with Android, lemme know, but the Xperia can be tomorrow or January and it won't affect me.
i am schocked to see this....does x10 has front facing camera????
the page here confirms it....... OMG
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dERiNkdJY2pBQnQxWF9sYUpTcGo0S3c6MA
the page here is talking about fring with video calls.....can any one confirm this..
You had better ask McKebapp, he has pulled his X10 apart
But I doubt it.....
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Noooooooooooo!
No, there is no front camera!! No No No!
but the other 2 devices has front cameras........and i dont understand y this device is added to it.......
X10 has just one cam! I've tried and frings uses that...so no front camera!
i will get back my x10 tomorrow....will test it and confirm.......
i hope its true and i should be the first one to tell u all
i have got an email from early access team of fring with a test fring apk.....
i dont have the phone with me right now....tomorrow evening i will test it when i get my phone back.....
Hello,
I’m glad to introduce: fring 2.1.0.17 for Android.
Before you install the attached version, please uninstall the current one and wait 2-3 minutes before you connect again.
This version includes the following features:
- Video Calls for more Android devices (Sony Ericsson X10, Dell Streak).
- fring should be running smoother on Froyo.
- Some other improvements.
We'll be glad to get your impressions, comments, suggestions, bug reports etc.
Thanks,
Tom
Early-Access team @fring.
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I've tested it. I can confirm no front camera. Just uses the main camera, which is kinda useless.
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No Guys, I'm sorry...
There is no front cam installed.
Seach for my "Upskirt Shots" Thread.
If you find a frontcam, please post the lottery numbers for coming Saturday
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_shakira_makes_a_debut_a_new_xperia_x10_offshoot-news-1715.php
i m also confusing with this. arent we all knew that x10 have no front camera since they first day published?
I saw a video by CoolSmartPhone.com on youtube with a white x19 with a front facing camera. S o n y Ericsson Xperia X10 - The on-screen keyboard and dialing
A lot of salespeople saw the proximity sensor and assumed it was a cam... I think that's where this rumor started
there is no front camera....
i have tried using video chat apps which use front camera..they said no front camera detected.
maybe the latest fring version lets u use main camera.
i dont miss it though..
my bro has iphone4 ..he keeps facetiming with his GF...
Facetime is lame. What's the point if you can't make 3g video calls? If you're at home might as well use your laptop/desktop that has a better screen + better quality
so, this is?
Hanzo.Hasashi said:
so, this is?
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Proximity sensor..
That explains it..no front cam then :-(
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Front Camera
There are X10 knock-offs floating around on Madeinchina.com (from the site just do a search on X10 and you'll see exactly what i'm talking about)
Many of these knock-off's have dual sim card slots, front and rear facing camera's, radio, even built in television.
However I can't confirm if any of them are using the Android OS. Its possible that where ever this confirmation came from originally - that the person was using one of these knock-offs.
Also to note - the camera resolution on these knock-offs are considerably lower than the true X10. Usually about 4mps for the rear camera, and 1.5mps for the front facing.
Screen size is usually a bit smaller. And I would imagine the resolution of the screen wouldn't be HD.
I have though made my decision. The next cellphone I buy will probably be an android based knock-off. Why? If I'm not going to get support from the manufacture anyways what the heck is the point in paying the high price. When I say support I mean continued updates and upgrades. All the work is now being done by the public - not the manufacture. I'd rather save the money by not buying the name brand, and donating to the developers who make this stuff work.
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Proximity sensor..
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Out of curiosity, on the X10 what does the Proximity sensor do?
I have the message LED's that light up, that I noticed. The blue LED for facebook messages. is this a different LED to indicate something else?
Hi everyone.
I'm just thinking about buying a Xperia X10 mini pro for my wife. I went to the store to check but the screen looks really small. I was reading some reviews on the web but ther're not conclusive and always done with a fresh device.
Can someone post a brief review on the following topics?
1. How's speed after a certain usage?
2. Is the screen a limiting factor for some, many or really most android apps?
3. Will froyo be avaliable on this one in future?
4. Top 5 pros and cons?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Hi everyone.
I'm just thinking about buying a Xperia X10 mini pro for my wife. I went to the store to check but the screen looks really small. I was reading some reviews on the web but ther're not conclusive and always done with a fresh device.
Can someone post a brief review on the following topics?
1. How's speed after a certain usage?
2. Is the screen a limiting factor for some, many or really most android apps?
3. Will froyo be avaliable on this one in future?
4. Top 5 pros and cons?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Well i have the x10 mini for more than a month now and the speed is still very quick, very few lags. For the screen size and apps, i think there are a lot of available apps for the x10 mini's screen size, my only nag is that i can't access paid apps yet, not really the x10 mini's problem but the android market here in my country. With froyo I hope its coming but i dont think it'll be anytime soon since the eclair update will be coming only at the end of october
Top 5 pros
1. very pocket friendly
2. fast
3. nice ui
4. nice camera
5. not too expensive
Top 5 cons
1. only android 1.6 but i can't say that i'd benefit so much with the 2.1 update coz i can do everything i need to do with my x10 mini right now
2. battery life not great, mine can last up to two days sometimes though
3. its not amoled, its asking too much, but hey it would look great if it were amoled might make it slower though
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I can honestly say there are no cons except the battery life is not the best.
If you want a bigger screen dont buy a mini of course! lol
Big thanks my friends! It's for my wife. I think she will be ok with a smaller screen if the form factor is better than the "big male phones" as she says hehe.
The eclair is officialy coming end of October than?
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The eclair is officialy coming end of October than?
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thats what SE said, hopefully there'll be no further delays
Yep. I'm using it right now.
However, startup is very affected by application. There are alot of nasty app there which start as system starts, this lengthen my boot time. After that, it's just quick.
I think, it is the only Android device with best physical design. I know it has limitation with android version and screen size, but, it's worth the style, plus I'm not so enthusiast. So, it's so stylist.
For your information, I already rooted this device. So, should still be okay if you want to play with this device.
Very recommended.
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thats what SE said, hopefully there'll be no further delays
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This is SE we are talking about. They are worse than British Rail at delays: http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/10/01...e-november-plus-more-details-on-improvements/
PS: Sorry to give you a con, rather than a pro
Both of us have the pro version of this fone there a several pro and not many cons
Yes it has a small screen but it is a small device
We got the pro cause the keyboard makes it so much easier to type
About the only major con I can think of is the boot hasnt been cracked so we're stuck waiting for SE to realse an OS update. There are a few apps that wont work becuase they require 2.1 and wont run on 1.6
Hi, i read Sony Ericsson Xperia X10´s display is limited at 65k colours by Android 1.6. They told, X10´s LCD supports 16M colours. Is there any kernel, or software to fix it? Thanks a lot for any answer
Not at this moment
Why would you still be on 1.6? Official 2.1 is available for everyone and we have custom 2.2 and 2.3 ROMs. Dev's are working on custom kernal to achieve 16m colors but its still in development.
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Thanks for answer. I don´t have X10i yet, but i will buy it for few days - in specifications it was strange this equipped phone had only 65k, if you could send a link of developing that kernel, it would be good.
Androidoric said:
Thanks for answer. I don´t have X10i yet, but i will buy it for few days - in specifications it was strange this equipped phone had only 65k, if you could send a link of developing that kernel, it would be good.
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Its better you buy an Arc,it is far better than X10 concerning Display,screen size and the camera.
It´s too much expensive, X10i is almost half the price and it´s almost the same.
Please, write here your experience with display quality, rating x/10...
It will help me with deciding, thanks.
Androidoric said:
It´s too much expensive, X10i is almost half the price and it´s almost the same.
Please, write here your experience with display quality, rating x/10...
It will help me with deciding, thanks.
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X10i is my first ever android phone. The touch response is slow, the dual touch is dumb and unstable, and the dreaded 30fps cap. but besides that everything is great... the 8.1 MP camera is great but no flash. Display quality is good. 854 x 480 res. hdpi ftw. Gets really laggy on stock ROM over time (too many useless apps) . The hardware on this phone is totally limited by the software. Im hoping the GB update is going to boost this baby up a notch since I just had this for like 2 months. I wont be getting an arc or play in 2 years. lol
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X10i is my first ever android phone. The touch response is slow, the dual touch is dumb and unstable, and the dreaded 30fps cap. but besides that everything is great... the 8.1 MP camera is great but no flash. Display quality is good. 854 x 480 res. hdpi ftw. Gets really laggy on stock ROM over time (too many useless apps) . The hardware on this phone is totally limited by the software. Im hoping the GB update is going to boost this baby up a notch since I just had this for like 2 months. I wont be getting an arc or play in 2 years. lol
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On a stock rom ......on a custom rom. All your dreams come true dual touch is decent Responsiveness is better on some roms than another . 30fps cap is removed on cust kernels
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Androidoric said:
It´s too much expensive, X10i is almost half the price and it´s almost the same.
Please, write here your experience with display quality, rating x/10...
It will help me with deciding, thanks.
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Tbh the phone isn't as bad as some reviews make it out to be. I find it is good for me although it can get slow over time, especially on the stock firmware, it really f's up the phone. But once you find which custom rom works best for you, the phone improves a lot as the hardware is good I am very happy with the phone
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On a stock rom ......on a custom rom. All your dreams come true dual touch is decent Responsiveness is better on some roms than another . 30fps cap is removed on cust kernels
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Yes Custom roms are like the steroids for the X10, but let us not forget the warranty. since he was gonna buy a new one. Rooting does void the warranty. I voided mine 2 weeks after purchase. Ever since then, been flashing roms back and forth like crazy. lol
After voiding you could just flash back to your origimal firmware
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hello guys , right now i'm a htc wildfire s owner and i'm looking to replace it with a new android device ( better hardware ) and iam very confused between 2 devices the Motorola Atrix 4g and the Sony Xperia Sola but i kinda like the Atrix because of this huge forum there is alot of Roms and stuff but i wanted u Atrix owners to help me explain some points
- i read here on xda that all the new Atrix devices well not be unlocked link here sooo is that true ?
- if i bought this device i think i'll unlock it after a couple weeks and if i wanted to know what isn't exactly working in the CM9 rom cuz it's my favorite and does toggling bluetooth and wifi force restart the device ( ohhh god i sufferd this issue with my wfs ) and does the HDMI port work with ICS based roms ? !!
- is there a webtop for ics roms ?
- in worst cases is CM7 fully working ? !! ( stable ) cuz i can't imagine my self stuck with the orginal rom
that's it for now, thank u guys in advance hope to to join u soon
The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
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The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! )
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Resolution of the screen is really nice but for me personally a little too high for a 4" screen.
But the main problem is the colours it produces. Blacks aren't completely black they have a slight brownish greyish look to them. The other colours in general look washed out. Doesn't bother me too much but when comparing to other phones the difference in colours is instantly noticeable.
The atrix hardware is nice. Will run anything you throw at it. We have a very nice stable cm7.2 rom
If I were you I would wait a little while longer to see if Motorola release official ICS for the atrix before buying one unless you don't mind sticking with gingerbread.
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Atrix is a very solid phone, and I would take it over the Sola.
You have GB/CM7 for now, and CM7 is very stable. ICS coming sometime in QTR 3...
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
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Well the screen is also smaller on the sola, and it has a full set of sub pixels as well as the bravia engine.
The Atrix has a pentile matrix, so even though there is more pixel density, the pentile matrix makes individual pixels more visible.
Well since you're buying in egypt, there probably is a chance your local store has the initial-release stock of the atrix. But there is no garuntee, I bought a second atrix (for a friend), here in New Zealand a few weeks ago and it was unlockable,
I personally haven't tried ICS or JB because im more interested in a working phone (LOL), I don't like having to toy around with things that only work half the time and/or not at all, thats why I try to stay away from the roms until they're stable.....But still, support the developers for their hard work, even if you aren't using their roms just yet (they all look promising).
there are a lot of things not working in the CM9/CM10 roms, that even the devs can't list them all, and a lot of functionality is software-based because there is no driver support for hardware until next month or so, when we get the official ICS from Moto.
The phone works great on CM7 if you're willing to buy it now.
Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
if my Atirx will be broken, I Will buy another Atrix. This is one of the greates devices, fingerprint lock, webtop, and many more Especialy Tegra2 and 1GB RAM
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Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
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okay your totally right the Galaxy nexus is a great phone but comparing the prices here where is live the atrix sells for 2000 EGP and the nexus for 3500 EGP so there is a huge difference that i can't afford right now and there is also a thing that i don't like about all the nexuses ( except the nexus one ) which is there is no SD Card ..... i can't really imagine my life without an SD Card
I'm considering the same 2 phones. Which phone did you buy, the Xperia Sola or the Atrix?
Atrix
the Atrix is still one of the best phones I have ever owned, and the accessories are great and probably much cheaper now
Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Problem is that there will never be any official ICS from Motorola, and unless the Olympus ICS/JB kernel port is successful, it's likely there will never be any third party HW acceleration either. And yes, there is talk of Motorola releasing the code for the unfinished ICS kernel, but talk is one thing, but I wouldn't bet the farm on seeing it happen any more than I'd bet on a dead horse winning the Kentucky Derby.
Sure the device itself isn't bad, but the only support you will get for the device is dependent on a dwindling community. Honestly, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have just gotten something different, I would have ran away from the thing screaming like a little girl.