In my OP the HD2 is ... - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

a POS $500 paperweight that no matter what ROM you put on it Windows 6.5 will F up.
After many phone exchanges and owning Android and Windows phones, Windows 6.5 is the windows 95 OS of phones, period. The HD2 seems like a great phone, but that Windows 6.5 renders it useless.
The promising ROM of Core Droid on the HD2 can’t take away the lag, freezes and unresponsive that Windows 6.5 is. It’s just a POS OS for phones, have you tried Windows Mobile 7? So much smoother, if it wasn’t for this OS, I would completely hate windows mobile.
I had hopes for running Android on the HD2 and again the promising ROM of EVO Droid made it possible, but only for a couple of days. Running off the SD card is not ideal for heavy use and the way I use to my phones, I test them to the limits. I hate having to reboot the system, every time the phone lags. So for now, you may be able to run Android, but it has its limits.
So that leaves me with a paperweight. The fact that I have to take the battery out to reboot the damn phone was my last straw. My HD2 is smashed : ) and now I am going to go get a loaner phone and see what other phone is available for me. I hope to never own another POS phone like the HD2. I once said that with the DASH, fooled twice.
This is just my OP, and if you disagree, well that your OP also. I’ve had it with the HD2; it doesn’t live up to its “hype”

The fact that I have to take the battery out to reboot the damn phone was my last straw
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Ahhh... I can see your problem... You're an idiot. There's a little yellow button back there too that precludes battery removal. It's called a "reset button" in the trade...
One can only assume that if you can't get something as simple as that right then all your other woes are of your own doing... I own an HD2 and manage a dozen of them - they all work very well with no complaints from my users.

Airborne Aircrew said:
Ahhh... I can see your problem... You're an idiot. There's a little yellow button back there too that precludes battery removal. It's called a "reset button" in the trade...
One can only assume that if you can't get something as simple as that right then all your other woes are of your own doing... I own an HD2 and manage a dozen of them - they all work very well with no complaints from my users.
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I don't believe this community should be in the habit of mocking its members. FenderGuy was merely stating his opinion, albeit, in a Q&A forum, but none-the-less, the response wasn't appropriate. I too own an HD2 and find myself sympathizing with FenderGuy.
When I had the 2.10.531.1 Stock T-mobile rom, it took about 10 - 15 seconds for for the music tab to load my music. There were a thousand 'fixes' and none of them worked. I finally had to get a different program, disappointed in HTC. The music tab wasn't the only problem. My phone would reboot randomly. I have tried custom roms, but I don't recall that they improved my WM 6.5 experience (no offense to anyone making the roms, I likely did not put in enough effort to make them work for me better).
The newer 3.14.531.1 T-mobile rom is 'better.' The music tab works fine, but I've obtained new problems. The weather never updates in 'my location' (I know there are threads on this topic). Also, my phone reboot when I plug it into a computer via USB. Every time, without fail, the phone reboots when I plug it in. And I have no resolution to this (if anyone has any idea... please let me know, I cannot for the life of me find any forum threads on this).
I like android roms, but they still seem less responsive than the native WM 6.5 and the camcorder still doesn't work (but, I truly appreciate everyone's work on making android on the HD2 possible).
Last, though this should've been my first point. I too find that I have to reboot my phone often. I have a case on my phone, which I have to dismantle, then remove the case of the battery cover, and then pull out the battery. This is an annoyance. If anyone suggests that it is easier to press that little yellow button than to pull out the battery, you must either have your tools always accessible, or you have managed to create and attach a bionic finger that has a release mechanism with a 1/8th inch-pointed tool hidden inside that can actually fit and press the button, because my fingers cannot press that button without these tools.
Actually, even if you did have a tool handy... It's way easier to just remove the damn battery.

When I had the 2.10.531.1 Stock T-mobile rom
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The newer 3.14.531.1 T-mobile rom
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Ahhh. I can see your problem....
Seriously... Lose the stock ROMs...

FenderGuy said:
a POS $500 paperweight that no matter what ROM you put on it Windows 6.5 will F up.
After many phone exchanges and owning Android and Windows phones, Windows 6.5 is the windows 95 OS of phones, period. The HD2 seems like a great phone, but that Windows 6.5 renders it useless.
The promising ROM of Core Droid on the HD2 can’t take away the lag, freezes and unresponsive that Windows 6.5 is. It’s just a POS OS for phones, have you tried Windows Mobile 7? So much smoother, if it wasn’t for this OS, I would completely hate windows mobile.
I had hopes for running Android on the HD2 and again the promising ROM of EVO Droid made it possible, but only for a couple of days. Running off the SD card is not ideal for heavy use and the way I use to my phones, I test them to the limits. I hate having to reboot the system, every time the phone lags. So for now, you may be able to run Android, but it has its limits.
So that leaves me with a paperweight. The fact that I have to take the battery out to reboot the damn phone was my last straw. My HD2 is smashed : ) and now I am going to go get a loaner phone and see what other phone is available for me. I hope to never own another POS phone like the HD2. I once said that with the DASH, fooled twice.
This is just my OP, and if you disagree, well that your OP also. I’ve had it with the HD2; it doesn’t live up to its “hype”
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Hmm, I think I know where you went wrong......
by smashing the phone instead of taking the time to sort out the problem......
Airborne Aircrew said:
Ahhh... I can see your problem... You're an idiot. There's a little yellow button back there too that precludes battery removal. It's called a "reset button" in the trade...
One can only assume that if you can't get something as simple as that right then all your other woes are of your own doing... I own an HD2 and manage a dozen of them - they all work very well with no complaints from my users.
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+1

Airborne Aircrew said:
Ahhh... I can see your problem... You're an idiot. There's a little yellow button back there too that precludes battery removal. It's called a "reset button" in the trade...
One can only assume that if you can't get something as simple as that right then all your other woes are of your own doing... I own an HD2 and manage a dozen of them - they all work very well with no complaints from my users.
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Airborne Aircrew said:
Ahhh. I can see your problem....
Seriously... Lose the stock ROMs...
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Lol, yeah... I know I know...
Perhaps when I have more time, I will try the custom roms again.

The peanut gallery has spoken
Let’s see the reset button can be either yellow or red right, and you have to actually get a pin or something to poke it to reset, so taking the battery out is just another way to reset the phone when the reset doesn’t work, after all the HD2 is perfect ?
I could care less if you manage your clients phones and I doubt they are so perfect as you claim, like I said it's my op the HD2 is a POS
I use to work for T-mobile and guess what the #1 phones that has complaints was always the Windows Mobile phones, even now when I went back to get a loaner the HD2 is still the #1 issue phone with customers

I use to work for T-mobile and guess what the #1 phones that has complaints was always the Windows Mobile phones
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I see your problem... Windows Mobile is a tad too complicated for most T-Mobile users... Go and get an iPhone, it's for people who can't or don't want to think for themselves...
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I've managed Palms, iPhones, Androids, Windows Mobile and Blackrubbish... Windows is, by far, the most reliable, configurable and sensible business solution. But I'm just the "peanut gallery"... You carry on in your little utopia...

There must be like a "driver license" for this phone
Some people are realy but seriously really dumb
There are many threads with an answer for almost all problems of the HD2!
Get lose of the STOCK ROM'S like Airborne Aircrew say's
And if u are installing new rom's read the installation guides first!! there are 10+ guides at your disposal
Now the chance of a problem is decreased with -99% believe me
If u getting android... read the installation guides first!!
Congrats!!!! if you have no problems you may obtain your HD2 driver license (create your own one)

How strange or stupid that ppl keep saying that Android builds are unreliable, with constant freezes and such...... I have NO problems running 5 different builds for days with no issues and no restarts... I do restart the phone once in a while but only to switch to different builds....See that's the beauty of this phone we can switch to many different roms, both Windows and Android. And to break a phone bc it froze shows being very immature. Instead should've found a reliable Rom there's Lots of them here. It never seizes to amaze me the ignorance of some people .......
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My honest opinion
When i first got my hd2, i was super excited with it. I thought it was the best phone ever. I'd already worked with WM so i knew something about it. The HD2 was great, but after few days i was bored of it. I found nothing to do with WM, as there are almost no GOOD apps for it. Then, i came to XDA, and read about flashing custom roms. I was afraid of bricking my phone, but i flashed a custom rom anyways. After that, I flashed like 5+ custom roms on my HD2, and I looked at it and said: Now this is more like it. But i was missing something. WM, custom or stock rom, has almost no GOOD apps. So, i decided to try android on my HD2. I've used more than 10 android builds on my HD2, just for fun. After putting android on my Leo, i can honestly say I think it's the best, most versatile phone EVER. I currently use WM, Android and Ubuntu on my HD2. It's so much fun. Why would i want a phone that has everything there, when i can have my HD2, and get excited when a new custom rom is made, or a new Android build comes out for it. My Leo is more than my phone, it's my hobby.

"windows has no GOOD apps for it"???????????????...seriously?.....you don't know what you are talking............

pakure said:
"windows has no GOOD apps for it"???????????????...seriously?.....you don't know what you are talking............
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Ok well maybe not apps, but games. It has almost no games. I actually DO use my phone for fun, not just business and stuff.

I actually DO use my phone for fun, not just business and stuff.
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Watch porn...

Airborne Aircrew said:
Watch porn...
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Jaja thats the best friggin' part!
jkjk

Derek0228 said:
Jaja thats the best friggin' part!
jkjk
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jeah tits are HUGE

I think that the hd2 is one of the best phones of the generation. With how far the android developers have come since I sold mine, I think that its a fantastic base platform not a 500 dollar paperweight.

FenderGuy said:
a POS $500 paperweight that no matter what ROM you put on it Windows 6.5 will F up.
After many phone exchanges and owning Android and Windows phones, Windows 6.5 is the windows 95 OS of phones, period. The HD2 seems like a great phone, but that Windows 6.5 renders it useless.
The promising ROM of Core Droid on the HD2 can’t take away the lag, freezes and unresponsive that Windows 6.5 is. It’s just a POS OS for phones, have you tried Windows Mobile 7? So much smoother, if it wasn’t for this OS, I would completely hate windows mobile.
I had hopes for running Android on the HD2 and again the promising ROM of EVO Droid made it possible, but only for a couple of days. Running off the SD card is not ideal for heavy use and the way I use to my phones, I test them to the limits. I hate having to reboot the system, every time the phone lags. So for now, you may be able to run Android, but it has its limits.
So that leaves me with a paperweight. The fact that I have to take the battery out to reboot the damn phone was my last straw. My HD2 is smashed : ) and now I am going to go get a loaner phone and see what other phone is available for me. I hope to never own another POS phone like the HD2. I once said that with the DASH, fooled twice.
This is just my OP, and if you disagree, well that your OP also. I’ve had it with the HD2; it doesn’t live up to its “hype”
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You seem like a person that just needs to go buy a damn iPhone already. This phone is not about simplicity.

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Google phone OS

Does anybody think it will be possible for the OS on the Google phone to run on our PPC-6800's? please excuse my noobness if this has already been discussed but I was just curious.
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
Just follow the directions and everything should be groovy. Enjoy! :-D
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Does anybody think it will be possible for the OS on the Google phone to run on our PPC-6800's? please excuse my noobness if this has already been discussed but I was just curious.
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I would like to add that it's really a "beta" and shouldn't be used as your "main" OS; as it's nowhere close to 'ready' (at least in my opinion) for this device.
I mean; go ahead and check it out, but don't expect it to be your phone's primary OS.
It was way cool to check it out and play with it but still very unstable but its getting there.
Cant get it to boot
Well I downloaded the files to boot it and i click on the harot boot exe hit run and then it hangs. Where are the actual directions on how to run it? Is there any?
aaron580 said:
Well I downloaded the files to boot it and i click on the harot boot exe hit run and then it hangs. Where are the actual directions on how to run it? Is there any?
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You might want to put the files on a different SD card as I think it needs to be on a Fat32 partition.
It is a 512mb formatted to fat32 and it still doesnt work. I downloaded the android zip and not the sdk though if that might be the problem.
I actually figured out my problem. i kept all of the files in the folder and didnt extract to the root. my fault.
Do I have to install that heret bootloader first or should the olipro one I have work?
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No olipro is not even part of this. All you have to do is put all of the files in the root of your SD card and run it like an app and linux will boot. Keep in mind that there are so many bugs in it that you will never want it as ur primary os
development
Is anyone currently working on / developing a workable Android OS that we can flash, as opposed to using the Haret.exe file to essentially shell over Windows Mobile?
I installed this in the last couple of days, and have been able to make calls, access Google Maps, the browser, etc....but have no access to the keyboard, an on screen keyboard, etc.
I'd be willing to help test out anyones work if so. Thanks!
none of the buttons on the mogul works. a few of the keys work on the keyboard.
Update.
Join the HTC-linux chat channel.... If you want to help out. So far not many people on there own a Titan, so i've been trying to do my best to help out... The guys on there are extremely helpful... They will walk you through everything, and if you give them the information that they need, they will be able to develop more things for our titan... We are working on getting the keyboard working as of right now.... if you go in there... talk to dcordes, ginge, or ali1234... they will help you out... Like i said if we get more people in there we will be able to use Android to it's full capabilities... DZO has it working almost perfect on the Vogue.... The touch screen is still kinda wild in my opinion.... So we need to find a way to improve that as well...
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DZO has it working almost perfect on the Vogue
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When I get done with this Hurricane B.S. here in Texas i'll get with this guy and see if I can port any of it over.
Also something I'm interested in. Windows Mobile is tiring me, and I honestly would feel more comfortable running my phone on a *nix. Plus, it seems like Android is gaining momentum where WM seems to be losing it.
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Also something I'm interested in. Windows Mobile is tiring me, and I honestly would feel more comfortable running my phone on a *nix. Plus, it seems like Android is gaining momentum where WM seems to be losing it.
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We just need ppl to get the keyboard and buttons on the Titan to work on Android. It will be done in good time, it's just there's no timeframe.
I've noticed that the touchscreen is quite flaky, too. Frankly, I think that's higher-priority than some of the hardware buttons.
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Plus, it seems like Android is gaining momentum where WM seems to be losing it.
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...in that a single device has been launched from naught?
WM device sales have not decreased... Revice your statements and be honest. Android is immature. Particularly in that it lacks choices in software and suffe from odd OPEN development hesistency from Google. Android is a nice toy but it is not yet ready for widespread adoption. So, again, let's be honest and drop the rah-rah Android versus WM hyperbole.
It will great to have another OS to run on our HTC phones -- particularly the Titan -- but Android is unlikely to be on par to what WM provides within the useful lifespan of our current devices. As such, Android on the Titan is a great developmental toy.
Problems with tha applications !!
Hey !! i have run the haret.exe on my mogul but i have some problems, one of them is the calibration, it looks like the calibration of the screen is not the correct but anyways, that is not the main problem, the main problem is that i dont know how to close and application , i have tried with all the buttons and the application doesnt close, so i have to reset the mogul to start again.
The version on this link http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ is the correct one to the PPC6800?? or what is the correct version for the mogul??
Thanks in advance for your help !!
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Hey !! i have run the haret.exe on my mogul but i have some problems, one of them is the calibration, it looks like the calibration of the screen is not the correct but anyways, that is not the main problem, the main problem is that i dont know how to close and application , i have tried with all the buttons and the application doesnt close, so i have to reset the mogul to start again.
The version on this link http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ is the correct one to the PPC6800?? or what is the correct version for the mogul??
Thanks in advance for your help !!
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The buttons are complicated...to tell you the truth i hold down a bunch of random buttons on the keyboard...hahaha... but hold on... i'll try to map them right now...
Q = unlock
Q = menu (WHILE INSIDE PROGRAMS)
Shift = QUIT
Windows button = QUIT (one might be minimize, idk for sure)
hope that helps...make sure your getting the newest Android release... DZO has 1.0 on his website...http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

i think my x7500 is still one

of the best phones out there no matter where i go it grabs more attention than the iphone. even thought its not as useful i can get alot done and meet more people. anyone can get an iphone few can get the athena . and i thank everyone here for their help and their roms
temokk said:
of the best phones out there no matter where i go it grabs more attention than the iphone. even thought its not as useful i can get alot done and meet more people. anyone can get an iphone few can get the athena . and i thank everyone here for their help and their roms
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You are right Brother! Where ever I go, people keep wandering wat huge phone I was using but when they saw how wonderful to have large screen view they were amaze and was asking where I got it cos you can never fine any even on the auction or ebay.
I too had iphone before switching to Athena. Iphone cant do the very basic thing i need is my office files and the pdf files. Syncrionizing my office mail is a breeze which I only read on my train ride home.
No matters how , my Athena will be the last phone cum pda cum camera cum ipod cum video player that i will ever have.
It aint heavy, its my buddy!!!!!
I second you on that guys.....Been changing device and finally found this phone and so far really fulfill my needs....The big screen is just amazzziiingggg............Not to mention the power we had in this advantage....
Ditto, ditto, ditto. I've had mine 15 months now and I don't see anything, even "coming soon", that will be able to replace it.
I, too, still get "what is that" when I pull it out in public. A few months ago I was at the AT&T store due to a problem with my wife's phone and when I pulled my phone out every employee gathered around to stare and ask questions. I'd say its pretty hard to impress a cell phone store employee - and the Athena does it.
yup the reason i posted
every where u turn everyone has now an iphone. and they think they are the sh!!!. i know some of us have seen it. but as soon as i pull out my x7500 i get questions like what is it. no matter where i go i always get asked that and sometimes not to be rude i just say "me no speak ingles". the only draw back its not a phone where everyone in ur block has. it sometimes can get u detained like last week i went here in chicago to a federal building and the security guard pulled me aside after i put everthing on the tray to go thru the metal detector and kept asking what it was i showed the moronsky for 5 minutes and he said it wasnt so i had to make a call from it just to show him.
i think it was cell phone discrimination ;-).
i
yup
I like my 7501 too.
I have an input though, if only we could get our advantage that 10000% works in VGA with full compability and free of bugs. That'll be awesome.........
congpay said:
I have an input though, if only we could get our advantage that 10000% works in VGA with full compability and free of bugs. That'll be awesome.........
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And w/o GPS bugs, and fully uses the graphics processor...
3 days ago,I even changed brand a new Touch Diamond for old but still working great X7500, and I dont feel sorry.
Athena is device for me,it was only matter of time when I will posses it!
drgrabez said:
3 days ago,I even changed brand a new Touch Diamond for old but still working great X7500, and I dont feel sorry.
Athena is device for me,it was only matter of time when I will posses it!
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I've got a Touch HD because it's more portable but I still use my athena for reading (which I do a lot) and office tasks. After the huge screen of the athena, any other device is a let-down, screenwise. (sighs)
I've got spare batteries for both devices and usually end up with both, but using the athena more. I can't get myself to get rid of it!
permanent!
It's true...
Which other device can sit on my desk, on my monitor stand, not take up any space, allow me to stay connected to Face book through app - msn with voice and instant pic send and also stay connected to my home PC through logmein all day
I connect to an RDP on one of our servers here and I have mouse + keyboard plugged in via USB - I dont even need a PC on my desk to work!
- and still be able to read it from more than 15 CM away.....
then let me take aGSM call when it comes in?
Then let me plug in USB gamepad and play SNES GBA? etc...
I have samsung Omnia HD as my main phone but, if I take a bag with me, Ameo comes along!
yarod, have you tried My Mobiler (www.mymobiler.com)? My Athena sits on my desk all day, too, and this app makes a 2nd mouse and keyboard unnecessary. Puts the Athena desktop right on your desktop monitor, and passes your mouse/keyboard through to the phone. Or, you can set it up so the Athena becomes an extended desktop space for your desktop, but I haven't found a good use for that yet.
I love this app.
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of the best phones out there no matter where i go it grabs more attention than the iphone. even thought its not as useful i can get alot done and meet more people. anyone can get an iphone few can get the athena . and i thank everyone here for their help and their roms
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That part there is NOT correct. It is VERY useful.
Ciao!
again im a proud owner of the athena
every where i go in chicago i have yet to see another x7500. theres a lot of iphones out there and othet phones but im the only one with a nice viewable screen and lately alot of of people have those little cheap laptops with the 8 inch screen so all i do is sit next to them and pull out my athena with keyboard and all and all they do is stare. it still gets alot of attention
Ive had a htc touch and omnia since i got my Ameo but I still use the Ameo its still the preverable K9's testicales. Though I do love the Omnia, I take it every where as its slightly more portable. and very very stable. but it aint got a 5" screen. I pull that out and always everyone asks whats that.

[q] is htchd2 really worth it?

ok so we all know that the htc leo has alot of cool features you can use on it and alot of its qaulity is unique. but unfortunatly it has lots of problems too. i so far has gotten 4 brand new htc hd2's and they all have bugs and problems within them like restarting by itself many times and freezes. tell me what u think?
I love the phone. But I also have very few freezes and have never had the phone reset itself.
I've never had a defective phone. I think a lot of it is things we do to them.
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I love the phone. But I also have very few freezes and have never had the phone reset itself.
I've never had a defective phone. I think a lot of it is things we do to them.
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Same here. The only time I get lockups or slow-downs are after I install certain apps.
Same here..............
Had mine since November and the only problems have been ones that Ive caused through too much tweaking.....
And a problem with T Mobiles original stock rom but that was T Mobiles fault not the HD2.......
LiL xSOULJAx said:
ok so we all know that the htc leo has alot of cool features you can use on it and alot of its qaulity is unique. but unfortunatly it has lots of problems too. i so far has gotten 4 brand new htc hd2's and they all have bugs and problems within them like restarting by itself many times and freezes. tell me what u think?
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The HD2 is a wonderful machine that gives you best performance and wonderful features.
Especially when u compares it to competitive products or the price paid.
I have HD2 , T-8585, since January and never had any freeze or self restart.
All problems I had never cased from the HD2 itself. They cased from installing soft wares which sometimes do not work properly with other soft wares. That was easily recovered with the assistance of nice guys here.
Some problems occurred from defective accessories such as croppy cheap usb-micro cable.
The HD2 is wonderful machine that can be easily converted and modified according to your needs and imagination.
Thanks for the great answers ! I think its just the T-Mobile Rom thats a complete piece of crap. Because I didnt even add anything or tweaked the first 2 phones i got and they still caused many problems within the first day no B/S. Another quick question dough, how much would it cost to buy and repair an htc hd2 LCD screen, because one of my phones screen cracked. Its not the glass outer part that broke but the inner screen.
I am agree with you all, it's a great phone fast-big screen-cool design, but....
It's worth to pay 450 euro for this phone now (AUG)?? I mean I can wait for the next generation (mabe hd3/NOV or DECEMBER) thaat will have more features like an S-AMOLED and mabe a hdmi cable, and all of that with +50 euro.
Do you know anything about new HTC phones that will be released and when, and it is worth to wait more??? Thank you!
I believe the hd2 is one of the best devices on the market. It's fast, it has wonderful features, and now it is capable of running more then one os. Even the stock winmo isn't bad if yu change the rom and don't care about downloading apps. I believe for tmo usa, the hd2 is hands down the best phone they have, other then the n1. And yes better then the samsung vibrant, which is supposed to b upgrade but doesn't even have a camera flash.my experience with samsung phones has been horrible. I don't even think froyo has been released for it. Even tho it's ported, I've been running froyo on my hd2 since late july. As for up coming phones, google htc vision aka g1 blaze. 1GHz processor, medium sized screen, slide out keyboard and android. Basically the first legit replacement for the original g1. Much better then that mediocre mytouch slide 3g. The choice is yours.personally I love my hd2, but yu might just want to wait alittle while longer.
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Btw the htc vision should b coming out before the years end. Also there is a rumored hd3 coming soon that is supposed to run wimo7. Decision, decisions lol best thing about the hd2, runs winmo 6.xx, runs linux, runs android, and most likely will run winmo7(I'm sure someone will figure out how to port it) what other phone can do that! Lol decisions decisions
*that was Sent from my HTC hd2 using XDA app*
i think its a Great phone, i love everything about it slim design customisation element big screen but unfortunately it does have its flaws eg battery life occasional freezing to name a few plus no further windows upgrade officially it looks like a dying breed imo but without the chefs on here this handset will be resurrected with android port coming through and presumably windows 7 the futures look good
I do love the phone alot and i do think its the best phone on the market but im just highly upset with its problems. My bad luck i guess hehe . I have another question dough.
What does the red or yellow dots on the back of the phone next to the battery on the lower left mean? I got a 3 phones with red dots but 1 with a yellos dot.
LiL xSOULJAx said:
I do love the phone alot and i do think its the best phone on the market but im just highly upset with its problems. My bad luck i guess hehe . I have another question dough.
What does the red or yellow dots on the back of the phone next to the battery on the lower left mean? I got a 3 phones with red dots but 1 with a yellos dot.
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all that is a reset button. First it was red, then on the newer batch, it was changed to yellow.
For me, its the best windows phone I have ever used. Although if I was thinking of buying a new phone at this stage of the year, I think I would wait till around Oct-Nov or at least i'll wai for the first release of W7 and see if it is worth the wait. But the HD2's built I think is almost perfect(virtual keys at the bottom would have made it perfect for me).
Well dasz really true ! Thanksz for all da help guysz .. Ima jusz try to find the best rom out there . I wuld like sum help on dat too if u dont mind hehe This site is very supportive and useful !! Big thumbs up
Coming from a google phone for the past 2 years and then going back to Windows I was amazed how easy it was to deal with the phone.
The issues are the same as the others freezing, lag, etc. I think its the stock ROM itself, but I wonder? Sometimes it acts like my old dash and when you have to close the tasks and use a program to clear up ram space, it annoys me.
I don't like the windows market place, in google certain programs are free, but in windows you have to pay to use features? F-that.
I awating till they perfect a andriod rom to be put in the HD2 with no issues.
The good points of the phone is that it syncs to my outlook with ease..
FenderGuy said:
Coming from a google phone for the past 2 years and then going back to Windows I was amazed how easy it was to deal with the phone.
The issues are the same as the others freezing, lag, etc. I think its the stock ROM itself, but I wonder? Sometimes it acts like my old dash and when you have to close the tasks and use a program to clear up ram space, it annoys me.
I don't like the windows market place, in google certain programs are free, but in windows you have to pay to use features? F-that.
I awating till they perfect a andriod rom to be put in the HD2 with no issues.
The good points of the phone is that it syncs to my outlook with ease..
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So does this mean that no matter what rom i put into the phone, it will always be lagging and freezing as it normally would?
LiL xSOULJAx said:
So does this mean that no matter what rom i put into the phone, it will always be lagging and freezing as it normally would?
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I wouldnt say that since most of the roms here seem to make it run better, but Windows mobile is crap compared to Linux.
The HD2 has the same features as my Andriod phone Google maps, You Tube, Google Browser, yet run like crap on the windows mobile phone. GPS take forever to lock on and the maps just has a differnet feel to it..Youtube runs differnet and the browser is crap
Does this phone really have a 1 ghz processor? It feels like my a phone is on 450ghz at times, again maybe window mobile requires too much?
I'm going to flash a rom on the phone since I am tired of the battery drain which is annoying
I have a Nexus One that I am in the process of selling since I like the Hd2 alot more.
The Hd2 does everything I could ever ask of a smartphone and more:
- Free turn by turn GPS directions
- Emulator gaming
- Word/Excel documents
- Bluetooth keyboard support (Android cant do this at all)
- Voice recorder
- Gorgeous 4.3' monster screen
- Tethering
I haven't had any problems with my Hd2 whatsoever. If anything Android gave me more problems than Windows Mobile. The only reason you hear about Android more is it's newer and the media want's to push it as hard as they do with Apple stuff for ratings...
I'm bored with my HD2. Because its working perfectly. I guess I need a new phone with lots of problems
I love the phone. It's design is great, the screen is amazing and the hardware is beefy. What really makes the phone though is the community and chefs here at XDA. I lose count of the amount of times I have reflashed my phone. With different ROMS, experimenting and messing around. It's a great device if you like doing that. It makes you pity the iSheep followers, really..
However, my main 2 drawbacks are this: 1) The battery life is poor.. although that is understandable with the screen and hardware it's got to supply. 2) the fact that HTC have confirmed that they will not be supporting/supplying WinMo 7 for the device. However, I hold out hope that will not be a problem for the clever guys here at XDA .

First impression Xperia X10 mini pro+Questions

Hi everybody. First of all I did not know where to put this thread so I decided to stick it in General, I hope no one minds.
Well I just got my Xperia X10 mini pro yesterday, it came from Spain as I bought it of ebay and locked to Vodafone Spain.
As a long Windows Mobile user, I am used to have to flash a ROM in my native language (PT or SK) as soon as I get the phone, because it's not like in the old days with the Nokias where you would just go to the definitions and change the language to whatever you wanted.
But apparently android is like that too. When I turned on the phone for the first time, I got a lot of language options to choose from. I selected Portuguese and it the phone had all the options in that language. That is why I wanted to ask besides de branding it, what are the advantages of flashing a ROM from a different country?
And now for the hard questions.
I ran the phone without a SIM card in it, but I want to ask. Every time I turn on the phone I get the language options to choose, no matter how many times I choose Portuguese, it just fails to remember it. Is that normal (remember I am running the phone without a SIM card in it, just for testing)?
Is there a way to hard reset the phone? (this expression I got from WM, I hope it's the same for the Android) And if yes, how? (always good to know)
This is an observation.
The phone could not see my WIFI connection, because it was on channel 13, I had to change it to 9 to be sure he would see it and connect to it. After that everything worked . (I hope new radios are on the way)
Overall I did not have much time to test the phone, but I did some web surfing, I went on youtube and it was not bad, considering the screen size (it is even smaller than HTCs Diamond I), and the keyboard made the experience much better.
The phone feels so light, it almost looks like a toy. If you don't know anything about it, you can easily think it's one of those low cost messaging phones, with no actual OS (it's a metaphor, as I do not consider some firmwares that come on phones actual OS).
But I hope it's one of those gadgets that everyone can use
Thanks for bearing with me, and please if you know answer, if not you can always comment, hehe
Johev said:
But apparently android is like that too. When I turned on the phone for the first time, I got a lot of language options to choose from. I selected Portuguese and it the phone had all the options in that language. That is why I wanted to ask besides de branding it, what are the advantages of flashing a ROM from a different country?
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No advantage as far as I know, may be you will get a different set of bloatware depending on the region. but at the end, they all are crap and you will end up uninstalling (Or at least wanting to..) all of them.
Johev said:
I ran the phone without a SIM card in it, but I want to ask. Every time I turn on the phone I get the language options to choose, no matter how many times I choose Portuguese, it just fails to remember it. Is that normal (remember I am running the phone without a SIM card in it, just for testing)?
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I think it asks you just once for the language, as it stores the language preference in an XML file. try using it with a sim and see if it asks you again..
Johev said:
Is there a way to hard reset the phone? (this expression I got from WM, I hope it's the same for the Android) And if yes, how? (always good to know)
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you can factory reset the phone, I'm not aware of any method that allows you to hard reset your phone. Although you can reflash it with SEUS, that will reset your phone to orginal form.
Johev said:
The phone feels so light, it almost looks like a toy. If you don't know anything about it, you can easily think it's one of those low cost messaging phones, with no actual OS (it's a metaphor, as I do not consider some firmwares that come on phones actual OS).
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I beg to differ, Android is built on linux kernel, and you can use plenty of linux command on it, so I consider it as an actual operating system..
Besides, whats an actual OS?
The definition of an Os is - An operating system (OS) is an interface between hardware and user, which is responsible for the management and coordination of activities and the sharing of the resources of a device, that acts as a host for applications run on the machine.
According to that definition, android (or other mobile/handheld OS) falls well within actual OSes
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I beg to differ, Android is built on linux kernel, and you can use plenty of linux command on it, so I consider it as an actual operating system..
Besides, whats an actual OS?
The definition of an Os is - An operating system (OS) is an interface between hardware and user, which is responsible for the management and coordination of activities and the sharing of the resources of a device, that acts as a host for applications run on the machine.
According to that definition, android (or other mobile/handheld OS) falls well within actual OSes
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I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
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I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
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Haha. Technically, all phones have an operating system, otherwise they're just a pretty, shiny paperweight. I think you mean smartphone
Yeah, I get that a lot, but I'm still proud of my phone!
Johev said:
I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
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My mistake, yeah I misread your statement.. Sorry about that.
Yes you can easily mistake it as a toy , almost like the samsung corby series ( google if you dont know the mobile ) , but anything that runs Android quite doesn't feel like a toy because it Linux , its powerful , smart and the best OS around..atleast for mobile
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Yes you can easily mistake it as a toy
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When I bought X10 mini pro, I showed it to my friend, who happen to be a Nokia X6 user (8 GB) and a big huge Symbian fan. At the first sight, he wasn't impressed, said I wasted the money since I could have bought a Nokia X6 for lesser price. He said its just another fancy toy from SE, just like Xperia pureness (X5).
The next day, I rooted the phone, removed all the bloatware, installed useful apps and widgets, and last but not the least, installed ADW launcher. Customized it, and then showed him again, and he was blown away!!
All of a sudden Symbian looks like an OS from last century to him. Now he wants an Android phone.
li_boud said:
When I bought X10 mini pro, I showed it to my friend, who happen to be a Nokia X6 user (8 GB) and a big huge Symbian fan. At the first sight, he wasn't impressed, said I wasted the money since I could have bought a Nokia X6 for lesser price. He said its just another fancy toy from SE, just like Xperia pureness (X5).
The next day, I rooted the phone, removed all the bloatware, installed useful apps and widgets, and last but not the least, installed ADW launcher. Customized it, and then showed him again, and he was blown away!!
All of a sudden Symbian looks like an OS from last century to him. Now he wants an Android phone.
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That is exactly what I want to do to this one. I still need to get some reading first, as I am not sure how to remove all the stuff that Vodafone puts in it.
I lack the knowledge of Android, so I am not sure if you go to android market and download the things for free, or if you get it here and just install it on the phone (I sure hope that Android uses some kind of a cab file, that will let me easily install things on it).
So far, from my reading I figured I need to change the SMS application and the answering call one (as I read many people were complaining about those), and I need to get the task killing application so that I can save some battery life.
I was not able to find an explorer on the phone, so I have no access to my SD card (which was strange for me, as WM has it easy).
For rooting I will probably use the one click root (I hope it works for this phone).
If you could point me to the right directions, with the names and a place I can get the 101 applications from, I would be grateful, as my wife needs an END product, and not something like:
"Hunny here is your nice phone, have fun rooting it and customizing it to your needs."
Thanks a lot
PS: I have been looking for some examples of what I wanted the phone to look like, and feel like and I have found this on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEbYiTiFdw&feature=related
I like how it looks and feels, and the only thing I would probably not want there is the last left widget with the stock market. Other than that I think it's almost perfect for such a small device.
Let me know what you think

[Q] HSPL video?

So I'm trading my Nexus S for a HTC Radar, and the first thing I want to know is for HSPL, how many people suceeded?
I mean is it hard to do it perfectly and not brick it, or is it like rooting where the chances are 70% no and 30% yes.... Also wondering if there's a video that someone made for noobs on how to do it? Cause I want to use a 7.8 rom, and I also need a XAP installer so I want to do that on like day 1 or at least in the first week I have it..
I rooted my ICS tablet and my WP7 Radar.
Theyr're both the same difficulty, but there are more steps to unlocking the Radar. For my Tab, I only had to turn on developer mode or whatever it was called and run a windows program.
If you want to HSPL unlock it right when you get it, you'll need some tools.. (Y Cable, USB SD card reader, female-usb to female-usb) They totaled 5 dollars for me. Not bad.
It was not hard though. IDK about the RISK but it worked for me easily. Yes, I wanted a video tutorial at first but there just wasnt one. Most videos online are for the HD2, which is a different story.
I have WP 7.8 and it's great! Glad you're switching to WP.....
P.S. why not wait for WP8?
DarkSeL said:
I rooted my ICS tablet and my WP7 Radar.
Theyr're both the same difficulty, but there are more steps to unlocking the Radar. For my Tab, I only had to turn on developer mode or whatever it was called and run a windows program.
If you want to HSPL unlock it right when you get it, you'll need some tools.. (Y Cable, USB SD card reader, female-usb to female-usb) They totaled 5 dollars for me. Not bad.
It was not hard though. IDK about the RISK but it worked for me easily. Yes, I wanted a video tutorial at first but there just wasnt one. Most videos online are for the HD2, which is a different story.
I have WP 7.8 and it's great! Glad you're switching to WP.....
P.S. why not wait for WP8?
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Mostly cause being a 16 year old kid that still doesn't have a job, I can't afford phones on release date haha.. so I thought why not start out with WP7 .. plus I'm guessing apps run on C++ which is easier than Java to me so I thought maybe I could try building my own small apps after I'm done learning everything that matters :silly:
any possible way you could make a small video? or pm me very noobish details? cause I'm really getting confused haha.. yeah I only rooted my phones with either a flasher like ODIN or cmd...
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Here's the thing... WP7 apps I think can't be written in C++.... That's a Windows Phone 8 feature.
You should look at low end WP8 devices, which should still run great. Maybe look at the HTC 8 S or Lumia 8xx... I'm not sure how much they are but I'd guess a 100 dollars more than the Radar or something.....
Edit: it's pretty easy once you get started... Just get the 3 things I listed above then everything should be easy.
WP7 uses something a lot like Silverlight or C#/vb.net .... Again, I only started learning a while ago then stopped because of school.
I can't seem to find y-cables in the stores nearby.. is it ok to use a USB Hub? ..
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I can't seem to find y-cables in the stores nearby.. is it ok to use a USB Hub? ..
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You can try making your own. I tried it but failed... Can't you order one from Amazon? they're cheap there.
Can you send me links on what I need to get altogether? .. and how many quantities I need.. from amazon
Put more effort into this, I'm sure you could've found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597837

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