[Q] X10 mini pro, opinions, pros, cons - Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini

Hi all
I'm a big android fan, and I'm thinking of getting x10 mini pro for my wife
Enough with the nokia's I guess
Wanted to ask what's your feedback of the phone, anything you don't like about it ?
How's battery life ?
Do you need to charge everyday under average use ( no 3G data, wifi on and voice calls )
Camera quality ?
Is it easy to root, move from rooted to stock when needed ?
Feedback appreciated
Have a good weekend

I've got a mini, rather than a mini pro, but I'll answer from my perspective (the two phones are basically identical, other than the hardware keyboard)
I've had mine for 6 months now, and have been very happy with it - no complaints at all.
For me, with 3g enabled, checking email regularly, and spending a couple of hours a day browsing, I get about 20 hours before it needs charging.
With data disabled, nothing set to auto sync, and only sending a few text messages during the day, it can last for a couple of days.
Rooting's easy - just find z4root, install and run it.
To go back to the stock just download SEUS (Sony Ericsson Update Utility) which can reflash the phone back to the stock SE firmware.
(Note that nobody's managed to crack the SE bootloader yet, so there aren't any custom ROMs for it yet - you're stuck with SE's customised version of 2.1)
There are some examples of photos taken with the camera here:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/ph...n-xperia-x10-mini-pro-703545/review?artc_pg=5

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[Q] Xperia X10 Mini - is it worth?

Hi everyone.
I'm just thinking about buying a Xperia X10 mini pro for my wife. I went to the store to check but the screen looks really small. I was reading some reviews on the web but ther're not conclusive and always done with a fresh device.
Can someone post a brief review on the following topics?
1. How's speed after a certain usage?
2. Is the screen a limiting factor for some, many or really most android apps?
3. Will froyo be avaliable on this one in future?
4. Top 5 pros and cons?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
c3p9 said:
Hi everyone.
I'm just thinking about buying a Xperia X10 mini pro for my wife. I went to the store to check but the screen looks really small. I was reading some reviews on the web but ther're not conclusive and always done with a fresh device.
Can someone post a brief review on the following topics?
1. How's speed after a certain usage?
2. Is the screen a limiting factor for some, many or really most android apps?
3. Will froyo be avaliable on this one in future?
4. Top 5 pros and cons?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Well i have the x10 mini for more than a month now and the speed is still very quick, very few lags. For the screen size and apps, i think there are a lot of available apps for the x10 mini's screen size, my only nag is that i can't access paid apps yet, not really the x10 mini's problem but the android market here in my country. With froyo I hope its coming but i dont think it'll be anytime soon since the eclair update will be coming only at the end of october
Top 5 pros
1. very pocket friendly
2. fast
3. nice ui
4. nice camera
5. not too expensive
Top 5 cons
1. only android 1.6 but i can't say that i'd benefit so much with the 2.1 update coz i can do everything i need to do with my x10 mini right now
2. battery life not great, mine can last up to two days sometimes though
3. its not amoled, its asking too much, but hey it would look great if it were amoled might make it slower though
ran out of cons ... well.. hope i helped even a bit
I can honestly say there are no cons except the battery life is not the best.
If you want a bigger screen dont buy a mini of course! lol
Big thanks my friends! It's for my wife. I think she will be ok with a smaller screen if the form factor is better than the "big male phones" as she says hehe.
The eclair is officialy coming end of October than?
c3p9 said:
The eclair is officialy coming end of October than?
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thats what SE said, hopefully there'll be no further delays
Yep. I'm using it right now.
However, startup is very affected by application. There are alot of nasty app there which start as system starts, this lengthen my boot time. After that, it's just quick.
I think, it is the only Android device with best physical design. I know it has limitation with android version and screen size, but, it's worth the style, plus I'm not so enthusiast. So, it's so stylist.
For your information, I already rooted this device. So, should still be okay if you want to play with this device.
Very recommended.
Sent from my U20i using XDA App
ginowww said:
thats what SE said, hopefully there'll be no further delays
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This is SE we are talking about. They are worse than British Rail at delays: http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/10/01...e-november-plus-more-details-on-improvements/
PS: Sorry to give you a con, rather than a pro
Both of us have the pro version of this fone there a several pro and not many cons
Yes it has a small screen but it is a small device
We got the pro cause the keyboard makes it so much easier to type
About the only major con I can think of is the boot hasnt been cracked so we're stuck waiting for SE to realse an OS update. There are a few apps that wont work becuase they require 2.1 and wont run on 1.6

[Q] The current state of X10 Mini Pro

Hi guys, been a long time since I've visited XDA-Developers, boy does things change. I'm interested in buying a cheap second phone for myself, and eyeing the X10 Mini Pro. I read that Sony Ericsson officially kills possibility of Android 2.2 onwards on the X10 Mini Pro, what does it means for everyday users like me? I've been detached from mobile tech news for quite a while, so pardon my backlog of knowledge.
I also understands the system is locked, effectively blocking future port of new rendition of Android, so it's stuck on 2.1 for good.
What I intend to do with the phone is just basic email checking/replying, chat, phone, sms, calendar, social networking (mostly Twitter)... Well, that's that. Does the 2.1 is adequate to do just that?
Also, is there any issue I should know about the keyboard as I'm a heavy texter.
Midi_Amp said:
What I intend to do with the phone is just basic email checking/replying, chat, phone, sms, calendar, social networking (mostly Twitter)... Well, that's that. Does the 2.1 is adequate to do just that?
Also, is there any issue I should know about the keyboard as I'm a heavy texter.
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The x10 minis can do all that with flying colours, since back when they had 1.6, even chat! 2.1, or eclair, is the current and final version of android that we'll get officially, but hey, the x10 minis are pretty awesome already! froyo has overall performance improvements, and a lot of new goodies, but all that basic stuff you are talking has always been with us and the keyboard is just great, very comfortable.
Sent from my E10i using XDA App
Midi_Amp said:
Hi guys, been a long time since I've visited XDA-Developers, boy does things change. I'm interested in buying a cheap second phone for myself, and eyeing the X10 Mini Pro. I read that Sony Ericsson officially kills possibility of Android 2.2 onwards on the X10 Mini Pro, what does it means for everyday users like me? I've been detached from mobile tech news for quite a while, so pardon my backlog of knowledge.
I also understands the system is locked, effectively blocking future port of new rendition of Android, so it's stuck on 2.1 for good.
What I intend to do with the phone is just basic email checking/replying, chat, phone, sms, calendar, social networking (mostly Twitter)... Well, that's that. Does the 2.1 is adequate to do just that?
Also, is there any issue I should know about the keyboard as I'm a heavy texter.
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The x10 mini pro does all that wonderfully. If you want a small cheap phone that gets the basic things done then it is a good choice. The keyboard is fantastic but so is the on screen keyboard.
Thanks guys for the info. I'm smitten with the phone's compact design, I'm sure Sony Ericsson has a good reason for settling in on Android 2.1. I would be lying to say I'm not interested at all on Froyo or general Android update, but I don't even like plugging in my phones for official software update. Sure if gingerbread comes somehow for the Mini Pro (definitely from XDA-Dev user), I'd be willing to try.
and a 2.2 might come sooner than you think
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908937
alpha released today
edit: just realized that only xrecovery is linked, but first post says that it probably comes later today

[Q] e10i Froyo update?

hI does anybody know about Froyo 2.2 for x 10 mini?
do we have custom 2.2. rom out?
Custom ROM
Not for the Minis, only for the X10 big.
hey, so, make it for mini, guys!
You know I have to say I'm astounded at Sony Ericsson's behavior regarding the maintenance of these phones, and their customer support. Google makes the damn software, the OEMs just have to modify it slightly to their taste and off it goes. I strongly suspected they were shelving us to focus on the Arc and beyond. Podcasts I listen to know talk about Samsung having done the same. Unbelievable. Using Android, they've created incredible hype for getting basic things back on a phone which have been around on normal software for years: copy and paste, 3G video calls, an alarm that functions with the phone off etc. They've made people get excited about getting the basics back. I'd love to say my next phone won't be Android, but it's killing the other software, so, little choice.
If a 2.2 version of any kind with enough working features comes out (custom, of course) I'd very crazy grateful.

Advice request about Sony Xperia Tipo (ST21i, ST21a)

Hi all!
First of all I wish to thanks in advance for any of you who may stop by, and provide some tips, experience
regarding the next matter, advice request:
My context is that I am completely noob regarding choosing android phone.
I want to get my first one, but a low budget, and I thought about Sony Xperia Tipo, cause it uses Android ICS,
and its hardware specs are some better than comparing to others of similar budget as LG Optimus L3, Samsung Galaxy Mini
( phonearena.com/phones/compare/LG-Optimus-L3,Samsung-GALAXY-mini,Sony-Xperia-tipo/phones/6941,5147,7151 )
I already discarded going for Vodafone Smart II, cause after reading its thread in XDA (around 30 pages), despite it was posible
to be rooted at first, in 1 month the new versions have been capped by cel companies (the recovery, the fastboot etc), at least for Spain, Portugal versions, therefore the customization is getting quite impossible, or very random depending the version, the cel company, ...
I think the main problem it is that this Xperia Tipo has been released quite very recently,
and after been searching through forum about info for rooting the Xperia Tipo, I can't find any info about it :S.
So my 2 questions are:
- it is expected that Xperia Tipo will be rooted in a near future ( and therefore customizable with
ROMs ...) ?
- Taking in count any answer to this question, would you suggest to go for it,
or by other hand go for Samsung Galaxy Mini (despite it has worse HW, Android GingerBread,
BUT it has quite plenty support for rooting and flashing with custom ROMs) ?
Again thanks in advance for any advice, and excuse the long post! )
Cheers!
ive used this phone after recomending it for someone else. Its a great cheap ICS phone dont expect it to be really fast or to play excellant games but it is really good for the price under £100!!!. would i recomend it to someone else after using it YES!!!! just remember to clear the apps your not using from the RAM by pressing the Home key and holding it and swiping it to close it so it doesnt get laggy.
as for root im not a dev but im safley sure it will be rooted in the future as its got a SD card slot so its easier to install CWM recovery etc.
BUT it is new out and dont expect it to happen any time soon i have the Xperia U and thats been out ages now and i still dont have root it just takes time for the devs to get the phones and then to start work on them.
hope it helped
djpigz said:
ive used this phone after recomending it for someone else. Its a great cheap ICS phone dont expect it to be really fast or to play excellant games but it is really good for the price under £100!!!. would i recomend it to someone else after using it YES!!!! just remember to clear the apps your not using from the RAM by pressing the Home key and holding it and swiping it to close it so it doesnt get laggy.
as for root im not a dev but im safley sure it will be rooted in the future as its got a SD card slot so its easier to install CWM recovery etc.
BUT it is new out and dont expect it to happen any time soon i have the Xperia U and thats been out ages now and i still dont have root it just takes time for the devs to get the phones and then to start work on them.
hope it helped
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Thanks for the tip!
Being cheap phone is ok, in fact that is what I seek for, a low budget phone as a start point, looking for customization.
Well, I could get that Xperia Tipo for £48, while the Samsung Galaxy Mini would cost £32. HW (CPU, inbuilt mem, display res) difference and phone release date diff, explain the price difference, hehe.
I was tempted to get Vodafone Smart II (for £48, I think), but atfer reading this whole thread forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722811 , I found that it is a lottery, if I could get it rooted or not :S
My main doubt is if going for Samsung Galaxy Mini cause its great support in matters of rooting and customization, or expect that Xperia Tipo will get some nice support here in XDA, in the future ...
A third choice could be LG Optimus L3 which has worse display res, same price as Xperia Tipo, and it has some support here at forum for rooting and ROMs.
Regarding your Xperia U, I think there is quite nice support in this site, forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1728 , so you mention you still having probs to root it ?
I have just returned my Tipo today due to very poor reception. If you just want a phone to make calls and send texts then it should be more than adequate but if you are going to use it for browsing or games I would find something with a stronger processor as it can be very laggy after using it a while - even in menus. However the touchscreen is responsive and the display should be OK for making calls and texting but I found it very washed out when viewing pics etc. On my particular handset I could hear electrical interference through the headphones but this could be related to my reception fault I guess. If you can I advise you try it out before making a decision - if ur in the UK o2 shops usually have all there the phones on display switched on. If music is important to you the sound quality is very budget. Also the camera has no flash or autofocus. Tbh if it wasn't for the Sony xperia branding on the front I would have though this was a cheap chinese no-name handset as Sony really have cut costs on this one.
I can't comment on the Samsung but I have read bad things about the lg. Have you considered the Motosmart from Motorola. It has a similar spec to the tipo but at least the camera has a flash and its root able (running gingerbread)
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I bought this phone a week ago. It's very nice for the price!. It isn't laggy, It has plenty of ram. Obviously it isn't so fast as would be needed for a device to play games,and doesn't have a big screen (or an hires one) if you have to surf the web a lot, but handles with no problems at all divx streaming from my pc, using mx-player. It's clearly better than vodafone smart_II and my device hasn't reception problems at all. The battery (this is a good point in my opinion) it's 1500mah just better than the usual 1200mah used in low-end devices
The camera can make decent photos but hasn't flash or aufocus at all & no front camera just like all the cheap phones.
BTW i think it's one of the best ICS devices avaiable here in Italy for about 150€.
I tried samsung galaxy mini too and this experia is a lot better in my opninion.
I have been using the mobile for more than a month... It's perfect .. Go for it... It is the best in the range... I do use it a lot and it has held up against everything... Custom ROM will be available veeeeeeeeeeeery soon... It is already rooted...
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[help] firmware flash
my boot loader is unlocked and my device is stuck at boot with single vibration .
i need to install firmware but its get aborted everytime with an error
ERROR - ERR_SEVERITY="MAJOR";ERR_CODE="0019";ERR_DYNAMIC=" SIN header verification failed";
please help

Questions before buying unlocked phone

Hi,
I'm looking into buying a Z5 Compact unlocked since I don't want something 5 inches or bigger.
I'm hoping to not install custom roms, at least not until Sony stops supporting it.
I've got a few questions :
Will I be able to get the stock rom updates from Sony or manually install them (without unlocking the bootloader)? My carrier doesn't sell the Z5 or Z5 Compact so I doubt I will receive updates from it.
I have read a few threads that makes me worried about the phone. People seems to say it's sluggish and the camera app takes a while to start. Is it working better on the latest stock rom?
Is the stock rom good or should I really look into flashing a custom rom?
Would you guys recommend another Android phone? I would like a compact phone that can last me for a good 3 years, maybe a little more. Right now I own a Nexus 4 that is a little over 3 years old and while it still working rather well it is starting to show signs of its age (like the battery that doesn't last for very long anymore and the phone sometimes struggle running the latest games...)
Thanks

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