I have used ODIN before to install the JI6 2.1 update but that left my data intact on the internal SDcard. So my question is the following as I'm about to flash a new ROM and kernel using ROM manager for the very first time (and from my point of view, flashing with ODIN has been a child's play versus with ROM manager):
Question #1: How do you wipe and when? Do you wipe before you flash the new ROM/kernel or after? And HOW do you wipe? Do you manually delete files, do you format the card, or is there some other magic option that you select?
Question #2: If you plan to flash both a new kernel AND ROM, can you do them at the same time? If not, does it matter which one you do first?
Many thanks for all answers in advance from all the brave souls that have already been there and done that. I'm about to join you.... hopefully without bricking my phone... LOL
OK, I personally try to ODIN to stock (with repartition) before flashing any new Rom.
Now if you are flashing a new rom with kerne included, you obviously flash it at the same time because is only one package.
If you want to install a Rom with a different kernel, and you are unsure about the ROM including a kernel or not, flash the rom, and after that without restarting, flash the kernel.
If you want to flash a new radio different than the one included with the kernel, then do the same with the radio after you installed the kernel.
You can also do one, restart, do the next one. It is a matter of choice most of the time, evcept when you are switching from 2.1 to 2.2
There you have to be sure that kernel and rom are both match pairs. a 2.1 Rom with a 2.2 kernel can get ugly, as well as viceversa.
always try to flash from let's say top to bottom
ROM first (if it includes kernel, will overwrite the kernel you have)
Kernel second (will overwrite any kernel and modem installed)
and finally the modem (only overwrite modem)
Thanks gagb. I have never used the repartition option of ODIN. Does that format and repartition the internal SDcard exactly how it was from the factory? And why is it called repartition rather than reformat? I woud think the whole SDcard should all be one partition. Or are there different partitions so that the OS would use some of the internal memory and the other would be for the user? Sorry for the many questions and thanks in advance for the answers.
larryvand said:
Thanks gagb. I have never used the repartition option of ODIN. Does that format and repartition the internal SDcard exactly how it was from the factory? And why is it called repartition rather than reformat? I woud think the whole SDcard should all be one partition. Or are there different partitions so that the OS would use some of the internal memory and the other would be for the user? Sorry for the many questions and thanks in advance for the answers.
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Yes it does delete the existing app partition in Internal SD & recreate one. There is some system reserved space to install APPS.
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After trying different roms and testing different things i realized that a full wipe does not clear everything of your current setup.
If you use root explorer for example and just take a look at your folders and files you will see that there are many files left from older roms.
What is the fastest way to make a totally clean installation with a custom rom (cm9 nightly or rr for example)?
I found an older tutorial here but i think it might be outdated.
Is there some kind of script that i can flash before installing the new rom (that cleans everything but efs files and recovery files for example?).
Or do i have to get a sammy stock rom with 3 parts and pit file and re-partition with odin and flash pack to a custom rom right after ?
in CWM
under mounts/storage
format system,cache,data
then flash rom
Really clean install? Flash rom through Odin. Everything will be wiped.
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nitinvaid said:
in CWM
under mounts/storage
format system,cache,data
then flash rom
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No as you said it just clears data and cache, that is wiped with full wipe /factory reset anyways. And system is also just the system folder.
The other folders in your root will not be touched by this and will still remain on the phone. But i cant really tell if they are used or not anymore. I can only tell by the content and the creation date that of the folders and files, that a lot of these have to be from older setups.
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Really clean install? Flash rom through Odin. Everything will be wiped.
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What kind of firmware do i need then? I think if i flash without the re-partion tick in odin options the old files would also stay there. and i need a firmware with 3 parts to flash because you need a pit file to do that.
Ofc i would like to have exactly the same partition sizes as before on my phone if i have to repartition.
So i guess i need somebody who has some knowledge with odin and 3 part firmwares.
download the stock rom from samfirmware.com(after signup)!
flash the "md5" file using odin
after fresh install of stock rom, goto settings>storage>format usb storage and format sd card if u have one!
then u can do a factory reset again and you have a clean wiped phone!
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Really clean install? Flash rom through Odin. Everything will be wiped.
Odesláno z mého GT-I9100 pomocí Tapatalk 2
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endingcolt007 said:
download the stock rom from samfirmware.com(after signup)!
flash the "md5" file using odin
after fresh install of stock rom, goto settings>storage>format usb storage and format sd card if u have one!
then u can do a factory reset again and you have a clean wiped phone!
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Are you sure that a 1 part firmware from sammobile will wipe all the internal data and not just update and overwrite the new ones? (im not talking about the sd card, im talking about the system data that you can just see with a root explorer for example).
If you're performing a wipe data/factory reset alongside wiping the cache and Dalvik cache, you are performing a clean install. The residual files you're seeing are stored on the internal storage (the /sdcard partition), if you wish to clear them, go into recovery, mounts and storage, and format the /sdcard partition. Viola!
Also, wrong section. All questions should be posted in Q&A. Flagged.
screamworks
I attached some screenshots now about the files that i mean.
Im not talking about the content of the internal or external sd card.
Look at the misc, lib ,res or proc and preload folders.
Also the script files.
Some files might be related to the kernel settings of course.
Im trying to go on a stock rom now and call "*2767*3855# " for a hardreset and see if that works
EDIT:
Nope the hard reset didnt work, all the files are still there.
Where do i get a ics rom with 3 parts and a pit file that i can temporary install to clean my root folder? or is there a tutorial here somewhere could follow?
External SD not visible after new ROM installation
I rooted my galaxy s2 just a day before and faced an issue. After rooting I installed jelly bean 2.6 ROM(Resurrection and remix) and found my GPRS not working and then I did a factory reset, but unfortunately phone got dead and then I removed the battery and re booted after some time. This only restored 98 applications out of 113 in this new ROM. However, I re flashed the ROM again and all the applications got back to normal, but my SD card was not to be seen after this second flash, before factory reset my external SD card was readable(with the new ROM)
Anuruddha
anu7113 said:
I rooted my galaxy s2 just a day before and faced an issue. After rooting I installed jelly bean 2.6 ROM(Resurrection and remix) and found my GPRS not working and then I did a factory reset, but unfortunately phone got dead and then I removed the battery and re booted after some time. This only restored 98 applications out of 113 in this new ROM. However, I re flashed the ROM again and all the applications got back to normal, but my SD card was not to be seen after this second flash, before factory reset my external SD card was readable(with the new ROM)
Anuruddha
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the external SD it's mounted on /emmc so, there are your files. You can access to this folder with any file explorer (even the stock one). Just open the file manager, select the "mnt" option on the top, the one between the Home icon and SD icon, inside you can find the emmc folder.
Well i guess i could compare my files with the files of somebody else with rr and delete some of them manually
How To Install This?
am new to all this.just downloaded the pre-rooted I9100XWLPT (4.0.4) firmware.
can anyone please tell me how do i install it in my galaxy s2 gt i9100?
am running Cyanogen Mod Nightly(4.0.4) with Baseband Version XXLPQ.
I WANT A FRESH CLEAN INSTAL. do i have to do it through odin? if yes,please guide me step-by-step.
thank u in advance.
wakeupproject03 said:
am new to all this.just downloaded the pre-rooted I9100XWLPT (4.0.4) firmware.
can anyone please tell me how do i install it in my galaxy s2 gt i9100?
am running Cyanogen Mod Nightly(4.0.4) with Baseband Version XXLPQ.
I WANT A FRESH CLEAN INSTAL. do i have to do it through odin? if yes,please guide me step-by-step.
thank u in advance.
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Post the link for the pre-rooted firmware you downloaded, so as to make helping you easier.
Jokesy said:
Post the link for the pre-rooted firmware you downloaded, so as to make helping you easier.
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here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608071
wakeupproject03 said:
here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608071
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Since you are currently running CyanogenMod, then follow these instructions:
1. On your phone
-Boot your phone to CWM recovery
-Wipe data/factory reset
-boot your phone to download mode
2. On your Pc
- unzip the downloaded firmware,
- flash the tar.MD5 via Odin
READ Odin Flashing Tutorials here
Swyped from my Galaxy SII
i am also interested in this. Am new with galaxy s 2 well actualy its not even home yet =D but i got experience with HTC HD2, isnt there somethink like Task29 or similar or its odin exactly the same think, so that what am looking for? And would it be good to manuali format it with a pc, like when i conet galaxy s2 to pc and then via program format the comlet internal memory fat32 and ext3 or how it is made at that phone
ass this is already some time, ODIN is the best option on gs2, had my problems on start caus of imei restoration, was confuzing to learn all the stuff i needed as a brand new starter with it =D but got it done, but am suffering the loss of volume buttons, had to do an usb jig for 5cent :good: prety cheep jeh, now am on AOSP Neatrom 5.8 A.KK 4.4.3 slim, recomending it =)
Hi,
As the title says i was wondering if you could delete ROM or KERNEL ZIPs after flashing the ROM or Kernel. I mean i could use it to install the same ROM again or i could just backup it from CWM. I am asking because those ZIPs take alot om memory and it would be a relief if i could get rid of them.
(i flashed ROM and Kernel through CWM in internal SD)
Thanx,
Warden
CashAndPotatoes said:
Hi,
As the title says i was wondering if you could delete ROM or KERNEL ZIPs after flashing the ROM or Kernel. I mean i could use it to install the same ROM again or i could just backup it from CWM. I am asking because those ZIPs take alot om memory and it would be a relief if i could get rid of them.
(i flashed ROM and Kernel through CWM in internal SD)
Thanx,
Warden
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just leave one good ROM and kernel Zip file which r stable and delete rest of them
Yes of course. After flashing the ZIP you can delete it. Make sure to make a copy in your PC though in case you need to flash it again. Cheers.
i have them already on my computer, because i tranferred it from computer to internal SD
thax
I did the ExynosAbuse-v1.40 exploit, install Mobile Odin Lite, SiyahKernel v2.6.14, ClockworkMod Recovery, and install CM 10.1.3.
My first root and rom install and everything works great! Battery life went from one day to three and operating quickly.
Do I keep the files on my sd card or can i delete them?
For future installs and upgrades, is CWM recovery my primary means of install?
Thanks guys for your hard work. I really appreciate all you do and plan on donating to the cause.
Dave
dave042 said:
I did the ExynosAbuse-v1.40 exploit, install Mobile Odin Lite, SiyahKernel v2.6.14, ClockworkMod Recovery, and install CM 10.1.3.
My first root and rom install and everything works great! Battery life went from one day to three and operating quickly.
Do I keep the files on my sd card or can i delete them?
For future installs and upgrades, is CWM recovery my primary means of install?
Thanks guys for your hard work. I really appreciate all you do and plan on donating to the cause.
Dave
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"on my sd card"? You meant external uSD card or internal memory?
Either way, you can delete them if you won't ever need them again.
From this point on, any flashable zip file will be run using CwMR
Welcome @dave042,
-and congrats on a successful first root/ROM experience.
regarding the "files on the sd card", If we're ignoring the expansion slot, then there are files that apps use on the internal SD, so I wouldn't go deleting them at random. I'm sure that a google search will help you with which folders are needed, and which are not.
All future firmware installs should indeed happen from CWM recovery. Once you're rooted and kernel'd, there isn't any need for mobile ODIN. The options offered in CWM recovery are superior.
As you try new things, I do advise that you do some cleanup inbetween ROMS. Dirty flashes often lead to issues that people blame on the rom or kernel. factory resets only catch a portion of the critters. @mrcook has a few rom wipe scripts specifically for the i777 that have helped multiple people (myself included) out of weird phone issues that were the result of old-rom-junk not playing well with new-rom-junk.
Happy flashing
-Cyril
thanks votinh and Cyril for the quick response.
the SD card i was referring to was the external SD. i don't plan on installing too many roms but will make sure to do a complete wipe prior to any install.
was this process of installing ExynosAbuse-v1.40 exploit, install Mobile Odin Lite, SiyahKernel v2.6.14, ClockworkMod Recovery, to get me to root? and once to root, to install a rom?
another question, kernal and rom updates, are they independent of each other? can i update one without the other?
i understand roms are numerous and customized, what about the kernal? does changing the kernal make any significant changes to the operating system?
Gneerally on this device ROMS will come packaged with their own kernel. The kernel will be flashed when the rom is flashed. I do believe however that most install AJK after they flash their roms.
You can delete everything off your sd card. I do keep a known good rom as well as a copy of Siyah 4.3.3 kernel on my card at all times. You never know when something is going to mess with your phone, and you may have to re install a rom in order to make you phone function again. I would hate to be somewhere, my phone start a boot loop, and I am stuck without a phone. The Siyah 4.3.3 kernel comes in handy for me. Some roms will give you an error 7 when flashing. Rather than messing with editing the build prop I just flash Siyah, and try my rom again.
If you go flashing kernels make sure you have the proper kernel for your ROM.
@dave042: "was this process of installing ExynosAbuse-v1.40 exploit, install Mobile Odin Lite, SiyahKernel v2.6.14, ClockworkMod Recovery, to get me to root? and once to root, to install a rom?"
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ExynosAbuse-v1.40 exploit <-- tool to establish root-access to the device (framaroot is another useful, easy rooting tool for the i777)
Mobile Odin Lite <-- tool that uses root-access to install...
SiyahKernel vX.X.X <-- a custom kernel (one of many) installed primarily to provide cwm recovery, but are also commonly used to:
-provide additional functionality to the existing ROM
-backup your ROM install
-install a different ROM
-install a different kernel
-flash cleanup scripts
-and many many other things
As Butchr stated, the ROMs are usually packaged with their own kernels, so the kernel used above only remains in place until another ROM is flashed, which will overwrite the existing recovery with one specifically designed for the ROM flashed.
Hey,
1st post here at xda. I have a s3 running 4.12 , stock rom vodafone in ireland.
I installed CWM and rooted phone. Then done a backup with CWM.
I tried to install R5 stock rom from internal sd card, i selected the zip file and the installation started but had an error
i coulnd;t see.
At this stage i panicked a bit. I tried again but wiped internal sdcard in CWM before i started.
Now the phone wont boot to any OS (since tried to install 2 other custom roms from xda, both times screnn went blank after choosing installation options)
Cant recover backup as its no longer on internal sd card.
I can access CWM. Should I start by installing stock rom from samsung site ?
Am I doing the custom rom installation correct by using CWM to install from zip file in sd card ?
I tried to install roms with odin but its looking for tar file ?
thanks for reading,
Phil
You are heading for a hard brick by not understanding what you are doing.
Go and read all the sticky threads in general forum, then carefully follow the guide on how to return to stock.
Once you have your phone working again then install the latest recovery version (I'd suggest philz), backup your efs, then try again.
Read and understand before you hit go.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
Flash custom rom with recovery or odin?
boomboomer said:
You are heading for a hard brick by not understanding what you are doing.
Go and read all the sticky threads in general forum, then carefully follow the guide on how to return to stock.
Once you have your phone working again then install the latest recovery version (I'd suggest philz), backup your efs, then try again.
Read and understand before you hit go.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
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thanks. Read the general forum, was helpful. Its a great site, but in fairness there is so much information and some of it is conflicting to me, (maby i'm losing it!)
got the phone booting up again so happy days. will take my time and do backup before trying any custom roms.
After spending days reading how to flash custom roms, i'm still not getting how to 'flash custom rom' , as per the instructions i add zip to sd card then use custom recovery to run zip file ? Other places say to use odin, but every custom rom i've downloaded doesn't contain a tar file ?
Just want to improve battery life with a better rom, phone is 2 years old and battery isn;t the best.
thanks
Do your research before attempting things like this. I'm relatively new in flashing, before I began the first time I made sure I followed and understood every steps before proceeding, go check youtube for tutorial videos if you are really not sure, sometimes it pays being paranoid
philophilo said:
thanks. Read the general forum, was helpful. Its a great site, but in fairness there is so much information and some of it is conflicting to me, (maby i'm losing it!)
got the phone booting up again so happy days. will take my time and do backup before trying any custom roms.
After spending days reading how to flash custom roms, i'm still not getting how to 'flash custom rom' , as per the instructions i add zip to sd card then use custom recovery to run zip file ? Other places say to use odin, but every custom rom i've downloaded doesn't contain a tar file ?
Just want to improve battery life with a better rom, phone is 2 years old and battery isn;t the best.
thanks
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Hi there,
you've got to understand that your first post sounded like yo did not do your research at all, which generally tons of people don't do whining about
their bricked devices afterwards in the forums. If you don't understand what you do - don't do it.
Your original mistake was probably not properly wiping and/or formatting certain partitions (e.g. one forgotten wipe of system or data partition often puts your phone into BL, all depending on what version you come from & go to etc.) before flashing the zip from CWM (which is the way you usually flash custom ROMS, you're right).
Every ROM provides installation instructions which are to be follwed exactly. Never use a file not made for your specific device. Don't do anything before you know how to revert in case of disaster. Don't do anything before you got a full Nandroid & EFS backup both transferred to your PC. And again, understand what you do.
Memory loss after installing ROM
Benko111 said:
Hi there,
you've got to understand that your first post sounded like yo did not do your research at all, which generally tons of people don't do whining about
their bricked devices afterwards in the forums. If you don't understand what you do - don't do it.
Your original mistake was probably not properly wiping and/or formatting certain partitions (e.g. one forgotten wipe of system or data partition often puts your phone into BL, all depending on what version you come from & go to etc.) before flashing the zip from CWM (which is the way you usually flash custom ROMS, you're right).
Every ROM provides installation instructions which are to be follwed exactly. Never use a file not made for your specific device. Don't do anything before you know how to revert in case of disaster. Don't do anything before you got a full Nandroid & EFS backup both transferred to your PC. And again, understand what you do.
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thanks benko.
Installed philz recovery and done backup to ext sdcard (errored out was <1 G free space on card)
Done backup to internal sdcard - had about 7GB free
Copied recovery folder back to PC.
Installed Revolution ROM and afterwards noticed internal memory only 1GB
Am now copying the blob folder to PC.
Is this the case with all of the recoveries to use so much space doing a backup ?
Where do I read up on the 0 folder here, i've searched but there is so much info its a bit confusing.
0 folder
philophilo said:
thanks benko.
Installed philz recovery and done backup to ext sdcard (errored out was <1 G free space on card)
Done backup to internal sdcard - had about 7GB free
Copied recovery folder back to PC.
Installed Revolution ROM and afterwards noticed internal memory only 1GB
Am now copying the blob folder to PC.
Is this the case with all of the recoveries to use so much space doing a backup ?
Where do I read up on the 0 folder here, i've searched but there is so much info its a bit confusing.
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I know the subject has been covered already, just looking for a thread where i can read in simply form about what to do.
I copied blob file to pc , freed up another 4 gb, OS and backups still taking up 12/16GB of internal storage without any user app or data , just not right.
Hi, i'm new in this so i just need answers for couple of questions.
1. Can I flash new ROM from phone storage or does it have to be from SD card?
2. If i flash from SD, will new ROM be installed on phone storage or SD card?
3. When i do that, will all my data be deleted from previous ROM?
4. When i flash ROM do i need to again root my phone and install titanium backup?
5. what Custom ROM's are really good? your suggestions
1. Can I flash new ROM from phone storage or does it have to be from SD card?
depending on what kind of custom recovery you are using, you can install it from internal phone storage and sd card. Use philz touch recovery to have both storages available for you to choose roms from
2. If i flash from SD, will new ROM be installed on phone storage or SD card?
if performing a clean flash all data from phone would be lost as the primary step itself is to wipe data. Data on external sd card remains intact as long as you dont format it from recovery
3. When i do that, will all my data be deleted from previous ROM?
all data would be lost when you do a data wipe and devs take no responsibility for any loss wrt to your phone or data and so their piece of advice before you flash ANY rom or mod is to : Back up Back up and Back up. Use titanium backup to retain apps and a nandroid backup from recovery to be on safe side and stay away from after effects of a bad rom flash.
4. When i flash ROM do i need to again root my phone and install titanium backup?
rooting phone again is not required after installing custom roms since they already have the SU binaries included when the rom is cooked. Installation of Titanium back up after every rom Installation is must cuz itz an app on your phone memory
5. what Custom ROM's are really good?
again depends on what you like to see on your phone. If you like having the stock look on your phone and still enjoy benefits of using a rooted custom rom go for roms based on sammy firmwares. If you want to go a step ahead and have a nexusish look on your phone and be more open source go for CM and AOSP roms
thats not all. XDA has a lot of threads about flashing roms and recoveries. Do a lot of reading and proceed carefully at your own risk before playing with your phone.
Cheers
Well its so easy..
1- yup you can..
2- no it will be installed on te phone..
3- most of the roms are rooted.. but you can instal supersu.zip to root it or update the root panery, and you mostly will not lose the costem recovery..but some romes offer to download custom recoverys..
4- i think temask's unofficial cm11 is good.. and you can install omega touchwiz rom..:good:
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Good day, I'm having a problem with understanding how to install the nexus operating system on my SGS3 i9300. I have no idea what to download, what i need and how to do it. I know i'm the only one cause everybody seem to get it just fine. So i dont know if you could help me with what i need to do this and how to do it. Thanks in advance.
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Good day, I'm having a problem with understanding how to install the nexus operating system on my SGS3 i9300. I have no idea what to download, what i need and how to do it. I know i'm the only one cause everybody seem to get it just fine. So i dont know if you could help me with what i need to do this and how to do it. Thanks in advance.
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watz NEXUS OPERATING SYSTEM .... D-UH :laugh: