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i see people here and other places talking about rooting their thunderbolt (and dinc, before i upgraded) to get rid of sense. well why did you buy the phone then? to me, sense is a dealbreaker. i don't like vanilla android and sense doesn't "muck" stuff up as long as the hardware is decent (cougheriscough). so to you who don't like sense, maybe provide some insight to your perspective? is there something that vanilla offers that sense doesn't and i just don't know about it? please, explain.
For me it's just a personal preference. Sense runs fine on the TBolt, sure. But, I prefer the layouts/customizing I can do with LauncherPro, so that's what I use instead.
I don't care for sense myself. Maybe it's because I started out on a Moto Droid, but I prefer the basic Android applications by far. I can live with Sense, but when vanilla ROMs come out, I'll switch. For now, LauncherPro is close enough. The only thing I really can't stand is the text messaging app, but that's why they make 3rd party!
I've had the Incredible and Droid X, and didn't care for Sense or MotoBlur much on those, either. I'm just happy that there are so many options to keep everyone happy!
I have no clue, and would like to know this as well? I love the look, and feel of sense myself personally.
Short answer because sense sucks, real answer because I started out on the original droid I got use to vanilla android. I don't really like the way sense is laid out just doesn't work as well for me.
I bought the phone because it's great hardware and I was reasonably certain I would be able to dump sense. If I was stuck with the phone bone stock... Ugh.
I like Sense but I like the customization of ADW EX better. Also I'm beta testing SPB Mobile 3D and running it on top of Sense drains the battery. Other than that, Sense is pretty cool.
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For me it's just a personal preference. Sense runs fine on the TBolt, sure. But, I prefer the layouts/customizing I can do with LauncherPro, so that's what I use instead.
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yeah for me i use launcher pro, have five icons at the very bottom of the screen at 185 DPI that open 5 different apps, and then if you swipe those icons they open 5 more apps. very clean look.
then WP Clock wallpaper and it is clean and totally awesome.
I guess some people like having an unmolested version of Android, the way Google wants it to be.
I personally love Sense. I love the dialer, the widgets, and some of the social aspects of it. I really don't have any negatives about it at all.
i dont mind sense, but i like the customization with other launchers that sense doesnt offer. and if its not going to offer it and im going to use something else then there is no reason for it to take up space and recourses. its not that its bad it just that some people are more anal about removing stuff from their phone they are not going to use. same with bloat apps. if im not going to use them i want the option to delete them.
Well to me sense slows the phone down a little bit more than stock vanilla android. Also having sense instead of stock android slows getting updates, if we had a stock vanilla android phone, we would get gingerbread faster.
Luckily that is one of the reason I root and put other roms on the phone like CM7.
I personally like SenseUI. I had it on a Hero before, and it ran like crap, but the Thunderbolt runs it really nicely. I like the way things integrate with the contact list, etc. I haven't really had a vanilla Android device, but I'm guessing soon I'll be trying one out Oh yeah, and CM7 too
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Sense is one of the main reasons I'm an HTC fan.
I had it... (sort of..) on my old VZW TP2. Ran like a slug. Now that I have an actually functioning version, it is great! I also like how many people hate Sense, but still want the HTC flip clock.. lol.. best of both worlds?
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I do have to add... thank God for 3rd party SMS apps....
Sense runs fine on TB hardware and the "new" Sense has made improvements over "old" Sense... but I still prefer AOSP.
I like CM7 particularly (among other AOSP-based ROMs) because of speed and I like the vanilla look and feel. I find it to be more appealing... and I use LPP or ADW whether I am on CM7 or stock Sense.
I also hate the crappy DPI of Sense. Everything looks blown up and pixelated on such a big display. I also hate the Sense dialer and contacts app... along with SMS. I much prefer stock (or third-party like GoSMS and GoContacts).
Need to figure out how to change the DPI. Looks like you can do it with Launcher Pro... any other way to do it?
It looks like fischer price. The friend stream widget you can only see like 1 or 2 peoples status per page. The launcher pro version of this is much better. There's a huge ass phone button in the middle of the dock. Launcher pro is much better with the ability, as someone earlier mentioned, to do 5 icons. You can swipe those 5 and get 10, then you can have up to 3 docks you can rotate between for even more. I use all 15 icons, with the swipe gesture on all of them for a total of 30 apps that I don't need to clutter up my homescreen to get.
The clock is massive and a waste of screen real estate. There's already a clock in the top right of appropriate size, why do I need a gigantic flip clock that does nothing but drain my battery.
The stuff where you can flip it over to silence it or turn on speakerphone is nice though, I like that. But the launcher and the widgets really suck.
This is my first sense phone, and i must say that i really like sense. Unless it really starts to be a liability to the phone, i will always use it or keep it around.
I actually dont mind sense at all, and i think it is a huge improvement over motoblur (from what ive seen on my friends phones) but i was running a rooted launcher pro OG droid, so in the end ill probably switch (already rooted).
To people that havent really been on android though I can see the love they have for sense (at least on the T bolt).
I personally have already gotten used to the launcher tray and I am a fan, but the messaging app on the droid was better, and while i like the dial pad itself, the way the contacts and call log are i have to go + to droid as well.
I love Sense. I mean all the others (Blur, Touchwiz) they all SUCK, but I think sense actually adds to the android experience.
i can see the statements about the huge widgets, but you can add or remove those as you see fit. i personally don't use any sense widgets on my home screen, but i like that they are scrollable. i use the calendar and people widgets as book ends (far left and right screens within the scene). but i find that sense brings a LOT of good features to android to integrate and make the use of the phone better. the pinch zoom out/tap "home" to show all screens to quickly jump to one instead of having to swipe left or right, etc. i like how it syncs facebook contact info with people, i like the color scheme especially. there are other things i like that i don't have on my work phone (OG Droid). as far as stock apps, i use handcent and gmail. i can say for certain i DO NOT like the stock people or contacts app. it sucks epically.
RE: being able to delete apps you don't use, i actually wrote a letter to corporate about that (don't put bloatware on my phone. put it in the market or if you put it on let me delete it) due to backup assistant, the moron at the store started to set my phone up for me, and was past that stage when he handed me my phone. i've been on android for over a year and before that was with blackberries using google sync also, haven't used backup assistant since my enV.
anyways, i can see some of the "customization" options on having different home screens, but sense is more than just a launcher. you can use 3rd party launchers and still keep the benefits of sense, which is the best of both worlds, if that's what your into. i personally like the sense stock look and once a good and stable root is available i'll root (no roms for me, they all suck one way or another IMO) to get my titanium and screen cap, then delete bloatware. FTW!!!
I tried liking adw but even with homescreen button lock on I found myself accidentally dragging the homescreen button off the screen and had to reload the launcher.
Plus adw looks too much like my Droid and I was ready for a change so this fits perfect. Seems like some wanna over customize just for bragging rights. To me Sense has plenty of options put of the box
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I had ordered this without ever even giving touchwiz a thought. Figured the phone would show up, I would play with it about 5 minutes, install new launcher, never look at touch wiz again. After I ordered it I downloaded the user manual and did some reading and it appears that there is some interesting and useful work here that without having the phone I think I like. Watching videos to see if I could see some of the stuff in action seemed to me to confirm that there is some good stuff there.
My question is how are you liking touchwiz? Not the phone, the phone with touchwiz. I Have encountered an older version and was left heavily underwhelmed. Please be specific, I like this, I hate that, and give a reason. If its just because that works fine but have a reason.
Remember guys this is mostly about opinion and little about fact. Leave folks be with theirs and vice versa.
edit.... Also please add in your predilections toward flashing roms, or not, as it were. An opinion from a daily flasher is much different than one from someone who never flashes and runs the stock rom.
I thought I'd hate it but I'm actually really liking it! Some features I love:
- The lockscreen is great and you get little tabs you can slide when you get a text or missed call.
- You can reject a call with a text message (So handy)
- Resizable widgets
- Customiseable dock
- Hold down 'Menu' for search in apps
- Quick settings in the notification tray
- Movable homescreens
- Customisable app tray
and more Besides you could always replace it with another launcher and I'm sure custom ROMs are on the way.
I changed it within seconds to launcher pro. However the drawer in launcher pro isnt smooth at all, im actually thinking of changing back.
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I changed it within seconds to launcher pro. However the drawer in launcher pro isnt smooth at all, im actually thinking of changing back.
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Try Go Launcher EX
It is faster than Launcher Pro
I have a lot of time flashing roms and all that fun stuff so I have an idea about the possibilities going that route. Going to edit the op in regards to people adding their experience and preferences as far as flashing roms and such go. Thanks for your input. As a question Im on a custom rom now and the widets are all resizable. Are you talking about the touchwiz widgets then?
Another question would be can you access some or all of the touchwiz widgets from another launcher or do you give them up?
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Another question would be can you access some or all of the touchwiz widgets from another launcher or do you give them up?
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If you go use a third party launcher, you usually lose access to manufacturer widgets, since they work in a slightly different way from plain stock ones...
But if you go Launcher Pro Plus (it's a couple of dollars for the plus version) you get more "custom" widgets like that in return I guess it just depends what look you are going for.
So you have the handset and can confirm they are toast? Figured they would be but I haven't done touchwiz yet.
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So you have the handset and can confirm they are toast? Figured they would be but I haven't done touchwiz yet.
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Nope, hence why I say "usually". I've been in this business for a while, but not got the SGS II yet.
I have to admit that I like Touchwiz. On SGS, I dont have a SGS2 yet. In my opinion, Samsung Glass lockscreen is a way better than the Android stock lockscreen.
At the moment I'm in love with Zeam laucher but I always come back to Touchwiz from time to time. Launcher Pro and ADW have always left me cold.
Did more reading, I see that you can change the fonts system wide. Does this carry over to a new launcher or do you lose that? Pretty nifty feature.
In my personal opinion, touchwiz 3 was dire. But after using my Galaxy S II for a few days touchwiz 4 has come a long way. I'm sticking with Touchwiz for now
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I've been playing with the demo models at the office solidly for the past 2 days, and as a Sense users for the past 2 years, I really don't like Touchwiz even in it's newest incarnation.
Probably more down to being used to how everything works in Sense though, I don't like change
Touchwiz 4 is a huge improvement over 3 in my opinion. Using it on both my SGS and SGS2 now. The new calendar widgets on the SGS2 are awesome as well Touchwiz 4 can also put folders in the applications menu now
Semi-regular flasher (ooer) - would generally flash a new rom every couple of months. Been with Android since the G1 so have a pretty good idea of what's possible.
Things you KEEP going to another launcher:
Lockscreen
Dialler (reject call with text etc)
Holding down Menu to search
Settings toggles in the notification bar
You can resize widgets with LauncherPro Plus
Things you might LOSE
Movable homescreens (most launchers do this, but not with the motion sensing twist action like touchwiz)
Customisable app tray (again, most launchers do this)
Resizable widgets (possible with LauncherPro Plus)
Customisable dock (most launchers do this)
Overall, I don't miss the touchwiz launcher, but I like some of the other features. Looks like the Samsung widgets are standard and work in other launchers too - just added Mini Paper, Ap Mobile, and Yahoo! Finance, and they seem fine.
krabman - I've changed my system font to Helvetica S (Settings -> Display -> Screen Display -> Font) and in general it looks great! Carries over to most apps too. The only downside is that it's slightly wider, so you get some buttons wrapping For example, the password "Remember / Not Now" dialog has one, I forget which . . .
Overall, ditch the launcher (I like LauncherPro, smooth for me) but enjoy the other aspects
TW4 is not as bad as many are saying. its still not nearly as good as SENSE 2.x. and I wont even attempt to compare it to the new 3.0 version. I sure hope someone port it.
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Touchwiz 4 is a huge improvement over 3 in my opinion. Using it on both my SGS and SGS2 now. The new calendar widgets on the SGS2 are awesome as well Touchwiz 4 can also put folders in the applications menu now
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Same here, playing with both the SGS and SGS2 and yes it is an improvement for sure, but I am still not liking the iphonish looks.
DJGibbon said:
Things you KEEP going to another launcher:
Lockscreen
Dialler (reject call with text etc)
Holding down Menu to search
Settings toggles in the notification bar
You can resize widgets with LauncherPro Plus
Things you might LOSE
Movable homescreens (most launchers do this, but not with the motion sensing twist action like touchwiz)
Customisable app tray (again, most launchers do this)
Resizable widgets (possible with LauncherPro Plus)
Customisable dock (most launchers do this)
Overall, I don't miss the touchwiz launcher, but I like some of the other features. Looks like the Samsung widgets are standard and work in other launchers too - just added Mini Paper, Ap Mobile, and Yahoo! Finance, and they seem fine.
Overall, ditch the launcher (I like LauncherPro, smooth for me) but enjoy the other aspects
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You pretty much mentioned what I was about to! Using launcherpro plus with widgetsoid and pure calendar widget. I have to say that launcherpro work a bit smoother on the original SGS for be, but with the upcomming update that should be fixed.
Overall, combining the best of what I had on my SGS before, with the new functions from touchwiz 4!
Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
Hi,
I'm used using sense on android and winmo on a HTC.
when I compare it to Touchwiz, the samsung version feels odd, unlogical.
Personally I don't care a lot about Touchwiz.
Back to your questions:
Email client: (Gmail) it's almost the same
Facebook: I don't know i don't use it.
Twitter is the same too.
Calendar: I didn't like the one on Sense and I don't like the one on Touchwiz. I'm using Smooth calendar (free app)
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how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
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First you are just happy with your new girlfriend and don't even think bad of her if she does things you think is strange...
You accept a lot, and think you just need to adjust and that everything will work out in the end...
Don't misunderstand me now.... you still Love the looks on your girl, her beauty is stunning.... but do come to the conclusion that looks often isn't everything you need...
So.. when you recognize this sad fact you will quite fast think of solutions to reproduce your old girlfriends habits and ways of doing things you loved about her....
You would probably install a new launcher, Go SMS, Go Dialer, Go Contacts and other beautiful widgets....
And soon you realize.... Beauty and mind does exist in one package after all...
And you are in love yet again...
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Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
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I've never cared for the Facebook for HTC add-on and Peep (Twitter add-on), so always used the official Facebook/Twitter app sync.. Touchwiz does have its SNS aggregation app which is similar to HTC for Facebook/Peep, but not using it either
Linking contacts is the same in the Touchwiz contacts app as it is in the HTC contacts app. Although Sense does auto-link contacts far more efficiently (always autolinks whatsapp contacts whereas I've had to do that manually in Touchwiz) and there are no notifications for suggested contact merges in Touchwiz.
The calendar is the same, doesn't look as nice but offers essentially the same functions
The email client is a bit better as it has multiple Exchange ActiveSync support with HTML rendering.. also allows split-view in landscape mode which is a nice touch.. although it is a bit of a battery hog.. have 3 accounts set up on push and it uses over 15% of my battery, used to use Seven on my HTC and would use under 5%.
Overall, I prefer Sense over Touchwiz
I used to own the HTC Desire. I like Touchwiz a lot. Personally, I think that sense looks a little tired now. Even their tablet looks like a bloated version of their existing phones. But then touchwiz is all new to me, and I love the SGS2, so maybe my judgment is clouded.
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Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
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I miss sense, it has so many little touches touchwiz (and 3rd party launchers/widgets) miss.
Coming from Sense first from TP2 and then from Desire there was quite big change.
But I didn't actually like Sense that much and used to use Go Launcher.
I am still using Touchwiz but there are some issues which are really annoying.
First of all the home screen is the most left one. That is so stupid. Probably the biggest issues with touchwiz.
Calendar app I think is better than with Sense. I actually uninstalled smooth calendar after finding this.
Also strange thing is that with Sense I could look my facebook pictures from the gallery application. Currently I cannot do it or then I just dont know how to do it. But that is a big downside.
After all touchwiz is not so bad as people are complaining. I dont miss the extra eye candy from Sense 3.0 and there are some good things with this UI. I would give it 7+
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Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
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I've come from an HTC Desire and for me, TouchWiz is a clear improvement over Sense in some ways, and needs a lot of work in others. It certainly feels faster, but that might just be down to the horsepower that the GSII has available. Also, you're not forced to have 7 home screens. I have 2 home screens with my essentials on them and nothing else. I guess I'm a minimalist
Facebook integration is decent, although the Contacts app isn't as good as Sense at auto-linking Facebook contacts to your existing contacts. Calendar is nice, although for some reason it can only pull in your events calendar from Facebook. As I recall, Sense was capable of pulling in events and birthdays. I don't use the built-in email app (I use the Gmail app instead).
Other niceties:
- Built-in MSN client
- Decent camera (far better than the Desire anyway)
Other niggles:
- The lock screen takes some getting used to. I ended up installing an alternative because I didn't like it.
- The apps list is more akin to how apps are ordered on the iPhone than on other Android devices: you have to manually order them rather than them being ordered alphabetically.
- The media scanner is unable to process the metadata in AAC/M4A files. They play just fine, but show up as "Unknown Artist" etc. in the music player.
All in all though, it's a brilliant phone. I was blown away by how fast it is coming from a Desire, so moving to it from a Hero will blow your socks off.
Don't care for it personally - feels clunky and outdated.
I went SPB first and now LauncherPro - much happier.
If I had been stuck with TouchWiz though it'd still have been an excellent phone...
I never cared for Sense on my HTC device when I used it, I flashed a stock CM7 based rom.
So the look was minimalistic.
The TouchWiz needs some work doing to it, for example (and I may have missed something here), the programs in "Applications" are added in the order installed. I prefer the A - Z scrolling icons (not the list you can get it TouchWiz).
LauncherPro for me any day, or GoLauncher maybe as a 2nd choice.
TouchWiz doesn't do it for me I'm afraid... The dialer is great, but I don't like the dock/app drawer at all.
It took me ages to get used to Launcher Pro after using sense, but now I cant use anything other than Launcher pro (with it set up the way I like).
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Coming from Sense first from TP2 and then from Desire there was quite big change.
But I didn't actually like Sense that much and used to use Go Launcher.
I am still using Touchwiz but there are some issues which are really annoying.
First of all the home screen is the most left one. That is so stupid. Probably the biggest issues with touchwiz.
Calendar app I think is better than with Sense. I actually uninstalled smooth calendar after finding this.
Also strange thing is that with Sense I could look my facebook pictures from the gallery application. Currently I cannot do it or then I just dont know how to do it. But that is a big downside.
After all touchwiz is not so bad as people are complaining. I dont miss the extra eye candy from Sense 3.0 and there are some good things with this UI. I would give it 7+
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You know a default.prop edit changes that to have the default screen wherever you want.
how do u do that pulser?
I went HTC Sense (On a Hero) to an iPhone 4 to SGS II.
Played on a DHD a lot whilst having an iPhone 4. I find Touchwiz 4.0 quite nice, very smooth and I prefer the browser to sense I have got used to the smoothness of the iPhone. Never liked the way the Sense browser scrolls and to be honest it's hardly changed since the Hero days, etc.
used a couple of htc devices with sense, the last one was a rooted desire with a combination of sense 2.1 and sense 3.0 and I must say that in terms of hardware samsung is ahead of any htc right now but touchwiz has nothing to do with the usability of htc sense
I don't like the calendar on SG2 (app and widget) and I need that, I don't like that SG2 social hub is not better integrated with contacts ... etc. I just love my new SG2 but I have to say it, HTC did a great job with sense
And one important thing - SG2 "smart" dialer is not so smart and some contacts I will only find if I make a search contacts, they will not appear if I type first few letters from the name .... and I hate that ... it was so easy on HTC to call someone when driving ....
I can't wait for a decent port of htc sense 3.0 on my SG2
until I will find it I have to remove touchwiz and buy spb shell 3d from the market
I came from DHD and Touch Pro 2, Tytn II with Sense.
Don't like the Touch Wiz/Samsung
-Keyboard (spezial characters on second page)
-E-Mail App (no multi Mail markers to delete at once)
-Music Player
-Facebook Integration
-Dialer
-Wheater
-no control over WLAN, GPS, 3G, Data Connection, Bluetooth, Thetering, Fly Mode and many more options etc. in one place
etc.
SGS II has a lot of power an could handle Sense easy, once it has been portet.
Sorry but TW is IMHO crap...
Would love to see a Sense Rom on SGS II
am i the only one that actually likes touchwiz??! I find it does everything really smoothly. Sense was overwhelming. It changed too many things! Once landscape is introduced for touchwiz il probably be using it by default.
Indeed, I love the TouchWiz interface and gladly choose it over sense. Since you can install a calendar widget on Samsung, but you can't get away from sense on a HTC. TouchWiz is really fast and don't change the Android experience in a bad way.
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I wasn't too fond of sense and ended up not using it in favor of adw although I occasionally went with GO and LP. Had them all on the phone. As already noted the default home screen can be moved in touchwiz, search for the thread and there are detailed instructions. Rooted users can also sort the app drawer alphabetically with an app called sort apps. It will come up in a market search for touch wiz. I am using touchwiz now but essentially with all the wiz removed. I dislike hubs as they are more bloat than benefit to me and have never used them. I love the little slider that lets you cross the home screens. Easier and quicker than pinching and done one handed instead of having to two hand to pinch or swipe all the way back and forth. I have been giving touchwiz a go for a while now. I also have LP and GO installed and I'm finding I like touchwiz once its been de wizzed. If it were customizable in being able to choose rows and columns and that sort of thing I would be happy with it.
TouchWiz has the option of getting everything in alphabetical order and in up/down list. You can move apps freely around the different pages in original mode if you wish too. I love it and the quick switches in the notification bar just makes it great.
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Feel free to release your hate for touchwiz, i know we can use other apps to "fix" our phones but there's not an easy solution for everythin, gwhat are the things that you hate the most about it? In my opinion:
1.The lockscreen: Even tough i like the slider for received sms or missed calls i find it ridiculous, its slow and unpractical, you have to drag the wallpaper through 70% to unlock the phone
2.The launcher: its not that bad, but it is NOT smooth while flicking through the homescreens
3.The cheesy blue font, really samsung? a blue font in menus?
4.The messaging app: again the blue font, and the app it's just an iphone ripoff
5.The dialer/contacts: looks ugly and the image for the contacts its streched :/
6. Autobrightness also in the browser? huh? why?
7. Gallery on drugs? Its all sped up and is not overly responsive
8. No "," on the keyboard ( you have to switch to the special characters)
9. No option to deactivate just the keyboard vibration, in order to do it you must deactivate the vibration on the capacitive buttons too
10. Icons are really ugly
11. Hubs are pointless, the only non disposable one is the game hub
12. Samsung apps are horrendous, has someone download something useful from there?
13. No music widget? um why? i know there's a "shortcut" on the notification but a widget would have been nice
14. No text reflow on the browser
I should also mention that the camera app is better than stock android and i also like the way you change the wallpaper and add widgets, the browser is really smooth , is it true it has hardware
acceleration?
I know gingerbread is fugly but starting from ice cream sandwich just stick to making amazing hardware samsung
1. Normal Android and iOS, you have to drag an a thumb size **** for entire screen rather than anywhere of the screen, seems more hard to me.
2. Same on all androids... Try HTC next time.
3. Where did you get blue fonts? I don't see them
8. *cough* I have "." on keyboard. Do you by any chance use another launcher?
14. Actually text reflows on mine, and it is not TW launcher, it is android
Seriously dude, rest are just "objective" rather than facts.
I like TW and it is lighter than any other "default" launchers on rest of Android devices. Even sense on my friend's HTC's feels slow.
I hope Samsung does not give us butt-naked Android UI for ICS... TW4 is next best thing in Android other than core underground.
Please read why rest of Tech-editor hates Android's UI's, since I did not see much using SGS2... Beside it is not like Samsung locked you to use it. There are too many launchers out there...
I think TW is a good solid launcher. I dont use TW daily, but i dont agree with 90% of your points.
Same as the above poster really. i dont have blue fonts and also have a "." on the keyboard.
I'd strongly have to disagree with the not smooth on the home screens. Mine is seriously nippy.
Probably the only reason i dont use it is that i like to change my icons, so i will give you that one.
The stretching in the dial can be fixed by using a picture with the correct resoultion.
Do not feed the troll lads.
Why hate Touch Wiz? I don't get it !
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Do not feed the troll lads.
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I will leave some food by the bridge....
(Can you get a good phone signal underneath bridges?)
Touch wiz is too good to be criticised. Okay, some glitches but then nothing is perfect. It's so light and IMO it is awesome.
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The ONE thing made me switch is not being able to sort apps alphabetically..
I have to look for my apps Everytime !
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The ONE thing made me switch is not being able to sort apps alphabetically..
I have to look for my apps Everytime !
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Use appzorter from the market
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Use appzorter from the market
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Doesn't work at all for me, at least not the free version.
The deleted apps leaving holes in the app tray bugs me too.
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Feel free to release your hate for touchwiz, i know we can use other apps to "fix" our phones but there's not an easy solution for everythin, gwhat are the things that you hate the most about it? In my opinion:
1.The lockscreen: Even tough i like the slider for received sms or missed calls i find it ridiculous, its slow and unpractical, you have to drag the wallpaper through 70% to unlock the phone
2.The launcher: its not that bad, but it is NOT smooth while flicking through the homescreens
3.The cheesy blue font, really samsung? a blue font in menus?
4.The messaging app: again the blue font, and the app it's just an iphone ripoff
5.The dialer/contacts: looks ugly and the image for the contacts its streched :/
6. Autobrightness also in the browser? huh? why?
7. Gallery on drugs? Its all sped up and is not overly responsive
8. No "." on the keyboard ( you have to switch to the special characters)
9. No option to deactivate just the keyboard vibration, in order to do it you must deactivate the vibration on the capacitive buttons too
10. Icons are really ugly
11. Hubs are pointless, the only non disposable one is the game hub
12. Samsung apps are horrendous, has someone download something useful from there?
13. No music widget? um why? i know there's a "shortcut" on the notification but a widget would have been nice
14. No text reflow on the browser
I should also mention that the camera app is better than stock android and i also like the way you change the wallpaper and add widgets, the browser is really smooth , is it true it has hardware
acceleration?
I know gingerbread is fugly but starting from ice cream sandwich just stick to making amazing hardware samsung
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I agree 100% with everything! But you forgot the most annoying thing of all. The king of all annoyances! The child of Annoying Orange and Fred! The 100% battery charge notification!!! Who in their right mind would not think of including an option to turn it off?!
In all fairness, most of these issues (including the ball on leg on a hot summer's day battery notification) can be solved through different apps. But why should I?
edit: forgot to add that there is no stock android music widget (or any at all) in the widget list
i just love touchwiz no complains
kyleforge said:
Use appzorter from the market
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Thanks.. I am on custom rom anyway.
Was refering to stock TW limitation.
Cheers
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i heard that touchwiz will be updated to have 3*3 icons due to apple patent infringement.
and i heard that galaxy s will have ics without touchwiz like galaxy nexus.
i hope galaxy s2 get a non touchwiz ics update
1. Is it SO hard to move your finger two centimeters on any direction? Try other phones (HTC, Nexus).
2. Yes, it's quite good for most people. I don't really like it and i use Adw Launcher Ex. There's a lot free alternatives too.
3. What's wrong with these fonts? Are you aware of "Themes" section on this forum?
4. Yes, i totally agree on that one. It's an ifone rip off. On older ROMs at least we had an option to change theme, now it's gone. The only thing that really bugs me so much.
5. Pictures are fine for me and dialer app too. Would love to have an option to jump straight into favorites, instead of all contacts, though.
6. Yes and i love it! BTW, you can click "Menu" and disable it in no time.
7. That's slightly modded stock Android gallery and it's performance depends on amount of media files you have. Also, i guess you have some cheap class 2 SD card. And again, you can use QuickPic from Market, it's free and very fast.
8. I guess you meant "," not "." Yes, that's why i use Gingerbread Keyboard. Again, free on Market.
9. There's is an option to deactivate vibration for keyboard only. Settings - Language and keyboard - Samsung keyboard.
10. Personaly i love every single of them. Again, you can change any icon on this phone the way YOU like. It's Android
11-13 BS. Don't like them - don't use. Simple as that. And try some HTC phone and you will be surprised to find about 20 times more of bloatware.
14. Open browser - settings - auto-fit pages.
As i can see, you don't like every single bit on this phone. Why did you buy it? There's a good bunch of other phones.
And one tip: learn to use your phone, before blaming Samsung
I agree with some of your points, OP.
But the BIGGEST thing (at least in my experience) was how crappy Touchwiz performed compared to AOSP. Again, this is at least in my experience.
I hear good things about TW4 though.... I hope it's true!
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kingsrook14 said:
The ONE thing made me switch is not being able to sort apps alphabetically..
I have to look for my apps Everytime !
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I find it good that it sorts acc. to date. Makes it easier to find apps.
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iekansh said:
I find it good that it sorts acc. to date. Makes it easier to find apps.
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Totally agree. App drawer is one of those things that makes me wonder if i shall use TW instead of my current Adw Launcher Ex.
SiSL said:
1. Normal Android and iOS, you have to drag an a thumb size **** for entire screen rather than anywhere of the screen, seems more hard to me.
2. Same on all androids... Try HTC next time.
3. Where did you get blue fonts? I don't see them
8. *cough* I have "." on keyboard. Do you by any chance use another launcher?
14. Actually text reflows on mine, and it is not TW launcher, it is android
Seriously dude, rest are just "objective" rather than facts.
I like TW and it is lighter than any other "default" launchers on rest of Android devices. Even sense on my friend's HTC's feels slow.
I hope Samsung does not give us butt-naked Android UI for ICS... TW4 is next best thing in Android other than core underground.
Please read why rest of Tech-editor hates Android's UI's, since I did not see much using SGS2... Beside it is not like Samsung locked you to use it. There are too many launchers out there...
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No "," sorry, yes touchwiz is lighter than sense, but sense is so much better, swiping through the homescreen feels smoother, that ended with sense 3.0/3.5 it's even heavier and it feels kinda sluggish
Intratech said:
Do not feed the troll lads.
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I'm a troll because there are things i dont like about touchwiz? oh come on man
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...but sense is so much better, swiping through the homescreen feels smoother, that ended with sense 3.0/3.5 it's even heavier and it feels kinda sluggish
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Sorry, but I'm not seeing anything other than opinion. The vast majority of people actually really like TW on the S2, rating it higher than the other launchers. As for Sense, that's just another Launcher. You may as well start a thread for your favourite word processor, stating how it's better than the others, and then one explaining why you really like a certain art package or database app.
So you prefer Sense to TW. You should have a HTC phone then, not a Samsung one.
new to RAZR after 3 years Of samsung Touchwiz UI.
Have to say this, the motoblur light is incredible to me. I have never loved a UI so much before. Having had AOSP gingerbread and touchwiz gingerbread, i can't believe this is still gingerbread. I have no desire for ICS anymore. My friend has a Nexus with ICS and I find it boring compared to this.
Have to ask, how is this light? It seems like a complete gingerbread makeover.
My favorite features:
1. cool toggle for mute on lock screen.
2. Favorite contacts widgets with pull down
3. Social networking combo with better comment support than facebooks own app
4. swiping pages transition glow.
5. Honeycomb like resizing, drag and drop to screen.
6. Folder groupings and animation for it.
7. messaging looks like iphone.
8. MUSIC APP. wow. This is just amazing. (internet radio, podcasts, my own stored music, music store). The way it automatically downloads lyrics and shows them as the song goes. etc....... ++++++
9. clearing out individual notifications.
10. Weather widget
How is this motoblur light again? wow, what a phone!
-New overwhelmed user.
Having used Touchwiz and stock Gingerbread, as well (as well as CM GB and several others), I agree completely. I never thought I would say this, but Blur is better than stock. Hell has frozen over.
Blur=root and put stock rom
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I too am enjoying Blur on my Razr. Love the Favorite Contacts and Weather widgets. The Dock looks gorgeous.
I came from the Eris with sense. Tried every ROM possible with many different launchers, but have no pressing urge to switch besides backing up my homescreen setup which isn't a big deal since I'm not flashing ROMS every week.
I actually don't mind the blur either. I run adw though because i don't like the blur icons and like the swipe up-down feature of adw. Blur runs smoother but that's to be expected.
I also like the Blur and stock widgets are actually usable. I especially like stock corporate apps like corporate email, tasks and calendar. I use it on daily basis to accept meeting etc.
I saw several reviews that said this is the first phone without blur. They were either really wrong or misunderstood this phone.