Messenger app...stay running? - XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello,
I got an X10 one week ago, and today I had to reset the phone to factory settings after it would no longer receive incoming sms. Anyone ever have this issue? I hope it doesnt occur often.
Question I have is this:
I'm using Handcent SMS, and I also use advanced task killer to close applications running in the background that I dont need.
Whenever I close 'Messaging' app, which I assume is the program used for sms from factory, it just starts itself back up.. is it supposed to keep running?
I also use startup auditor to keep certain programs like face recognition from starting on boot, but currently dont have 'Messaging' disabled.

I think messaging needs to be there fire notifications to work properly. My messaging app runs everyone I get a message, things got weird when I froze it with tb.
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Hmmm... I used to use Handcent SMS when the old Xperia sms application was full of bugs (couldn't compose multi-line messages, sms auto convert to mms after 300 words, the way it displayed message was like a weblog's shout-out box, making it hard to read).
When I was using that, I did not ignore the Xperia messaging app from task killer, and I fully disabled it from Startup Auditor.
That didn't affect my Handcent SMS at all.

I dont think killing it or blocking it would make a difference as neither the phone speeds up nor there is any effect on the battery usage by killing the messaging service.
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kloud_ said:
I dont think killing it or blocking it would make a difference as neither the phone speeds up nor there is any effect on the battery usage by killing the messaging service.
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Ummm... I think his main concern is worrying that his phone's sms sending/receiving capabilities would be screwed if he attempts to block it or something, not about affecting the battery life (._.")

Ummm... I think his main concern is worrying that his phone's sms sending/receiving capabilities would be screwed if he attempts to block it or something, not about affecting the battery life (._.")
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Yes, correct... thus far, since the reset, it has been fine. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thx for the input, guys.

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MMS Issues?

Has anyone been having issues receiving MMS messages? Mainly pictures. For the last week or so, I keep getting an error message stating that the message failed to d/l, and is rescheduled to d/l in usually a half hour. I've tried manually d/ling and that sometimes works. I've also deleted the message and had the person resend it, and that sometimes works too. However, most of the time it just doesn't d/l at all. I thought maybe it was Verizon, but the people sending them to me are on Verizon as well and they have not had any issues.
I realize I'm probably one of a very few who use the stock messaging app, but until now it has worked fine. Also, I've done nothing to my phone so I'm pretty sure it's not my fault. Thanks for the suggestions in advanced.
MMS Pictures will only download when using 3G Mobile Network(Will not work on WIFI). Make sure its on before you download the picture.
You should just get Handcent. Its a free SMS/MMS app on the Market that works great and saves battery.
Framework43 said:
MMS Pictures will only download when using 3G Mobile Network(Will not work on WIFI). Make sure its on before you download the picture.
You should just get Handcent. Its a free SMS/MMS app on the Market that works great and saves battery.
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I'm always on 3G, I pay for it so why not use it.
Any way, I'll check out Handcent. I just wasn't sure if this was an issue with anyone else. Thanks!
d1g1talz0mb13 said:
I'm always on 3G, I pay for it so why not use it.
Any way, I'll check out Handcent. I just wasn't sure if this was an issue with anyone else. Thanks!
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When you get it , make sure you go to the stock messaging app, settings, and disable notifications.
Also, if you dont already have it, you should get Advanced Task Killer so you can kill apps you're not using and save battery.
Framework43 said:
When you get it , make sure you go to the stock messaging app, settings, and disable notifications.
Also, if you dont already have it, you should get Advanced Task Killer so you can kill apps you're not using and save battery.
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Thanks for the tips, I will do that. Also, I just recently got the free version of Advanced Task Manager. I had been having lag issues cause some apps weren't quiting when I was done with them. Seems to work pretty well, and I like that you can add a "Press To End" Icon, which will end all running apps.

Stock messenger issue

Since updating to 2.1 I've had a few issues with the stock messenger.....a few times I've had send failed messages, then the recipient got the same text several times (lol) and lately I haven't been getting any notification of new texts until I actually open the messenger.
Is there something I can do to resolve this???
btw, I've looked for the stock 2.1 messenger apk around here, but I can't find it....can someone please provide me with a link
lightyear420 said:
Since updating to 2.1 I've had a few issues with the stock messenger.....a few times I've had send failed messages, then the recipient got the same text several times (lol) and lately I haven't been getting any notification of new texts until I actually open the messenger.
Is there something I can do to resolve this???
btw, I've looked for the stock 2.1 messenger apk around here, but I can't find it....can someone please provide me with a link
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You will find it here.
Thank you!!!!
lightyear420 said:
Since updating to 2.1 I've had a few issues with the stock messenger.....a few times I've had send failed messages, then the recipient got the same text several times (lol) and lately I haven't been getting any notification of new texts until I actually open the messenger.
Is there something I can do to resolve this???
btw, I've looked for the stock 2.1 messenger apk around here, but I can't find it....can someone please provide me with a link
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Are you AT&T? If so, I had the same problem, especially with long text and MMS sending pics. I believe it was a problem within the APN. I don't know exactly how, but now I have 2 APN'S and the problem seems to be solved. I have MEdia Net and MEdia Net MMS, which is the AT&T brand name for their browser/network. I have tested the every APN setting posted in the forums, and they are the only ones that deliver large pics and 4page texts consistantly. If you need the settings, post here.
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yeah, I am using AT&T....that is actually part of my issue, and the other part is that the notification doesn't show up sometimes until I actually open the messenger.
I've downloaded handcent, and re-installed conversations.apk (the 2.1 messenger) just in case, and so far so good, but I haven't tried a really long text or large pic yet...I'll do that and see what happens
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yeah, I am using AT&T....that is actually part of my issue, and the other part is that the notification doesn't show up sometimes until I actually open the messenger.
I've downloaded handcent, and re-installed conversations.apk (the 2.1 messenger) just in case, and so far so good, but I haven't tried a really long text or large pic yet...I'll do that and see what happens
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I found the notification problem was in my task killer. Set messaging to ignore fixed it for me.
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agentJBM said:
I found the notification problem was in my task killer. Set messaging to ignore fixed it for me.
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We have discussed the task killer apps extensively here. And the consensus seems to be that they actually cause more harm than good.
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We have discussed the task killer apps extensively here. And the consensus seems to be that they actually cause more harm than good.
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Agreed if you just installed and use default settings, but if you take the time to hand set it up, it is a really useful app. Especially kill when screen off saves battery and data. I find I still have 30% battery on day 2 without charging. Without it my battery last 1 day max. If task killer effects an app/phone performance, then set it to ignore. No reason not to use it at all. Without it most apps with permissions would run continuously.
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Hmmmm.....interesting read!! I'll give uninstalling ATK, startup manager, etc. a shot for a few days and see what happens. Thanks for the info!!
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Agreed if you just installed and use default settings, but if you take the time to hand set it up, it is a really useful app. Especially kill when screen off saves battery and data. I find I still have 30% battery on day 2 without charging. Without it my battery last 1 day max. If task killer effects an app/phone performance, then set it to ignore. No reason not to use it at all. Without it most apps with permissions would run continuously.
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My battery is at 62% after more than 48 hours since unplugging it. I am an average user as I browse, text, calls...etc very frequently. I do not use ATK or juice defender anymore as I did not find any difference.
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My battery is at 62% after more than 48 hours since unplugging it. I am an average user as I browse, text, calls...etc very frequently. I do not use ATK or juice defender anymore as I did not find any difference.
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I probably use my phone a lot more than the average person. I run my own business with my phone when I am out of the office, not to mention my new addiction to the xda app.
I check my ATK frequently because every day is a balancing act of battery vs usage. After using my browser for 30 minutes, I can't believe how many of my installed apps are running for no reason...the list is 2 screens long sometimes.
Without ATK I wouldn't have any way to free up my system?? Are you saying apps running in background or when screen off is better than using ATK?? Hard for me to believe, but you haven't mislead me yet, Batman. I'll give it a try and report back.
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I probably use my phone a lot more than the average person. I run my own business with my phone when I am out of the office, not to mention my new addiction to the xda app.
I check my ATK frequently because every day is a balancing act of battery vs usage. After using my browser for 30 minutes, I can't believe how many of my installed apps are running for no reason...the list is 2 screens long sometimes.
Without ATK I wouldn't have any way to free up my system?? Are you saying apps running in background or when screen off is better than using ATK?? Hard for me to believe, but you haven't mislead me yet, Batman. I'll give it a try and report back.
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Even if you see a long list of apps, sometimes it is not the whole app that is running but only part of it for a while to do a certain task. Android then terminates them when they are idle for a period of time. I also have my brightness set on the lowest setting and only switch on WiFi/3G when I use them. You can download toggle widgets (e.g. APNdroid) from the market to make it easier to toggle these settings.
Also, if you have weak 3G coverage in your area, then that also drains the battery as the phone is constantly searching for the 3G network. Therefore, sometimes I switch my network mode to only 2G (or GSM only) networks rather than GSM/WCDMA preferred.
In conclusion, there are many factors that contribute to how fast your battery is drained, and apps running in the background is certainly one of them but, definitely not the only reason.
Let us know how it goes
Bruce Wayne
Just went about 5 hours with ATK disabled and had my first random reboot ever. Hmmmm.
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uninstalled atk & enabled jit with xrecovery last night.....so far so good Phone is running really smooth....will report battery level after work today (I usually kill my battery every single day )
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Just went about 5 hours with ATK disabled and had my first random reboot ever. Hmmmm.
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Random is the key word here
lightyear420 said:
uninstalled atk & enabled jit with xrecovery last night.....so far so good Phone is running really smooth....will report battery level after work today (I usually kill my battery every single day )
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Back in topic.. did you resolve your messaging problems? If so, what was your solution? I'm interested in hearing if you tried pics or long messages yet too?
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My solution is handcent It's much better for me than the stock app. The stock app is working, though. I tried mms & sms....both are fine. I found the custom vibrate feature in handcent and now I can actually feel it vibrate when I get a text because it stays on for a full second!!!
Did you uninstall stock app? I'm still trying to figure out why I seem to be the only one who has 2 APNs? It reverts back even if I change it, but it works.
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Did you uninstall stock app? I'm still trying to figure out why I seem to be the only one who has 2 APNs? It reverts back even if I change it, but it works.
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I believe you have a plan with At&t, correct me if I am wrong. One of the APN is for the data and the second one is for MMS.
Nope....I just reinstalled the app directly over the old install
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I'm still trying to figure out why I seem to be the only one who has 2 APNs?
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I have 2 apn's with AT&T as well....media net and media net mms

How to switch off SMS delivery notification sound?

Is there a way to turn off the SMS delivery notification sound but keep the SMS received notification sound?
Not sure on the stock app, on handcent all the sounds/notifications can be modified or removed.
I use SMS Go Pro and it allows you to turn off SMS delivery notifications. That's the beauty of Android. Don't like the SMS app? Get a different one!
Anyone else?
I want to keep stock SMS app.
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Anyone else?
I want to keep stock SMS app.
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I too want to know this. Perhaps its possible to edit the code for the app itself just like the camera app has been modified?
Yeah, it can be tough on some of the stock android software since development minded folks seldom want to mess with something that already has multiple fully fleshed out apps to replace it. I kinda like touch wiz once its dewizified but there is almost nothing out there that you can add on to it or use to modify it. I did think of one thing though, they added some new setting adjustments into the messaging app in CM7. You might want to consider grabbing that and seeing if it brings this to the table. I cant recall all the changes in it as I didn't use it. That would be kinda stock messaging.
*BUMP*
Has anyone come up with a solution to this, or are we forced to use another app for SMS? I really like the stock app, but are very annoyed by the fact that I cannot change this sound or remove it.
My problem is completely the opposite, I am trying to turn the notification on with no luck.
neither sms go pro or stock are responding, ticked all boxes i.e. sounds, sms options...etc with no luck.
any ideas...running ics 4.0.4 on sg3

[Q] texting app crapware

Hi,
Please tell me how to get rid of the god-awful slow texting app that comes with this phone, and replace it with the stock android texting app.
Thanks!
Are you referring to the AT&T messages app? 'Cause the SMS app that comes stock works fine for me :/
Stock messages app works fine for me. If you have root you may be able to find differnt message apps, but my first suggestion is to give handcent a try as it is my go to sms app for when I'm having issues with cusom ROMs being buggy with mms. Its got a threaded look to it, much like iphone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDIxMiwiY29tLmhhbmRjZW50Lm5leHRzbXMiXQ..
It also has font packs and other stuff on the app store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=handcent_market
I far prefer GO SMS Pro, love the interface and features, but with all the third-party SMS apps I have an issue of double and triple texts being sent to people. I agree the Samsung SMS app is painfully slow. I hate using it, but it's my only choice because it doesn't send out duplicate texts. :/
johnus said:
I far prefer GO SMS Pro, love the interface and features, but with all the third-party SMS apps I have an issue of double and triple texts being sent to people. I agree the Samsung SMS app is painfully slow. I hate using it, but it's my only choice because it doesn't send out duplicate texts. :/
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Thats very odd, I've never got complaint of this. Have you googled the issue to see if there is a known solution or work around? As common as these apps are you can't possibly be the only one misfortunate enough to experience this. I have had issues in the past getting numerous notifications despite turning native notifications off for SMS, but thats an entirely different issue.
How do i replace the Samsung message app with the vanilla android one? The Samsung one is slow and is a failed attempt at copying iphone. The keyboard even blocks the send button!
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How do i replace the Samsung message app with the vanilla android one? The Samsung one is slow and is a failed attempt at copying iphone. The keyboard even blocks the send button!
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Google is your friend to find an mms.apk. you need to be rooted. And have root explorer and a little knowledge
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what i did was use LauncherPro Plus and GoSMS.... i used handscent but prefer go... you can change the launcher icons and apps in the lower row with launcherpro.
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Google is your friend to find an mms.apk. you need to be rooted. And have root explorer and a little knowledge
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I am rooted and have root explorer. Can you share the little knowledge?
Chief Geek said:
Thats very odd, I've never got complaint of this. Have you googled the issue to see if there is a known solution or work around? As common as these apps are you can't possibly be the only one misfortunate enough to experience this. I have had issues in the past getting numerous notifications despite turning native notifications off for SMS, but thats an entirely different issue.
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Mostly I see people on ICS complaining about this issue, but there are several people on GB complaining about it as well, for both GO SMS and Handcent and a few others on Google Play.
I had the duplicate notification issue with Handcent - even though I had disabled notifications for the stock app AND frozen it. Didn't have that problem with GO SMS. Had an odd problem when I tried Chomp SMS, where all incoming messages were anonymous and upon trying to view them, the message couldn't be found. That even happened in the stock app, so long as I had Chomp installed. Uninstalling fixed that issue immediately.
But so far as I can tell, some people just have the problem, and most don't. I have yet to see a reply from any of the devs about the issue. I've tried completely resetting the phone to factory spec but I still got the duplicate message issue.
I really, REALLY want to use GO SMS. Although something else I noticed is that some people's messages were being sent to the wrong contacts... Perhaps I'll try the vanilla Android apk...
How do you try the vanilla android apk?
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This is the ics messenger app, you can try it without needing root.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mms.ics.ext
Thanks but I don't really want a third party version with ads. I don't get it...isn't there a plain messaging app that comes with android (like what was on the nexus one), or is it proprietary to every device? It seems like this shouldn't be such a difficult thing to install instead of the crappy samsung one. Am I missing something?
i'm surprised. the sms app is not bad i'm the note. I've seen worse. (though i am using the rogers version)
I'm coming from a rooted Inspire 4G (cyanogen) and I've noticed that the texting on the Samsung Messaging app is a bit sluggish. And some keys don't respond to my fast fingers.. Yet the app itself runs very fast (ie open app, open threads, go back, etc).
One thing I did was uninstall Swype through Titanium and I think I've noticed a difference in the keyboard speed. It may just be my imagination though
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I'm using go SMS, no issues..as long as I leave stock installed and not frozen..if I do..no mms messages
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Alternative to stock messenger?

I find the stock messaging app to be abysmal to say the least. Ridiculously corny background wall papers, an input box that unnecessarily consumes a large majority of the screen, and a change in orientation defaults you back to the beginning of your thread.
Is there anything else available? I dabbled with GoSMS temporarily, but uninstalled it when I started noticing odd behavior to accompany large amounts of spam. I also tried the 4.4 Hangouts and enabled the SMS functionality. Loved it, but experienced issues receiving messages (both SMS and Hangouts) and was constantly clearing cache to resolve. Perhaps installing the stock JB messenger? But in doing so I would like to disable to stock messenger since with GoSMS I would receive double notifications from MMS.
Thoughts?
Textra us the best.
I hate the stock message too, very cartoony. But I've still kept it as default because of the non blocking popup which comes in top corner. All other apps which have the popup features, makes them come on the screen and you can continue till you interact with them.
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nismo300zx91 said:
I find the stock messaging app to be abysmal to say the least. Ridiculously corny background wall papers, an input box that unnecessarily consumes a large majority of the screen, and a change in orientation defaults you back to the beginning of your thread.
Is there anything else available? I dabbled with GoSMS temporarily, but uninstalled it when I started noticing odd behavior to accompany large amounts of spam. I also tried the 4.4 Hangouts and enabled the SMS functionality. Loved it, but experienced issues receiving messages (both SMS and Hangouts) and was constantly clearing cache to resolve. Perhaps installing the stock JB messenger? But in doing so I would like to disable to stock messenger since with GoSMS I would receive double notifications from MMS.
Thoughts?
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Have u tried 8sms?
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Been using Handcent for years. VERY customizable in almost every way.
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Been using Handcent for years. VERY customizable in almost every way.
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Same with me too, I been using Handcent SMS for years too, no issues, a lot of ways to configure things, as well as many add ons that you can add to it as well.
Google Hangout now supports sms.
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used to use use handcent but found it became laggy. moved to chomp. very customizable and smooth.
Facebook Messenger! Chat heads is the best new feature I've seen on Android in a LONG time.
TEXTRA. never looked back. Light weight, fluid ui, no ads, group msg works well with iPhone users as well once you enable it. I recommended it to all my friends and family w Androids. Hancent and go sms is a thing of the past now.
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nismo300zx91 said:
I find the stock messaging app to be abysmal to say the least. Ridiculously corny background wall papers, an input box that unnecessarily consumes a large majority of the screen, and a change in orientation defaults you back to the beginning of your thread.
Is there anything else available? I dabbled with GoSMS temporarily, but uninstalled it when I started noticing odd behavior to accompany large amounts of spam. I also tried the 4.4 Hangouts and enabled the SMS functionality. Loved it, but experienced issues receiving messages (both SMS and Hangouts) and was constantly clearing cache to resolve. Perhaps installing the stock JB messenger? But in doing so I would like to disable to stock messenger since with GoSMS I would receive double notifications from MMS.
Thoughts?
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8sms from the Play Store is a direct port of the CM10 messaging software. Free too.
nismo300zx91 said:
I find the stock messaging app to be abysmal to say the least. Ridiculously corny background wall papers, an input box that unnecessarily consumes a large majority of the screen, and a change in orientation defaults you back to the beginning of your thread.
Is there anything else available? I dabbled with GoSMS temporarily, but uninstalled it when I started noticing odd behavior to accompany large amounts of spam. I also tried the 4.4 Hangouts and enabled the SMS functionality. Loved it, but experienced issues receiving messages (both SMS and Hangouts) and was constantly clearing cache to resolve. Perhaps installing the stock JB messenger? But in doing so I would like to disable to stock messenger since with GoSMS I would receive double notifications from MMS.
Thoughts?
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Textra.
eggman89 said:
Textra us the best.
I hate the stock message too, very cartoony. But I've still kept it as default because of the non blocking popup which comes in top corner. All other apps which have the popup features, makes them come on the screen and you can continue till you interact with them.
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There are things I really don't like about the look of the stock messaging app, but I really love the unobtrusive popup in the corner when you receive a message. If I were just able to customize it more, it would be a total winner. I would prefer a black theme and the ability to totally change the bubble settings rather than choose from 5 presets that all look terrible.
Not to give big red too much credit, but they make a pretty decent messenger app...
Sliding Messaging.
Very clean and very customizable, though it lags a bit here and there on my DNA. Probably better on the G2, but still my favorite!
You do realize today you can change the background to any picture including a different one for each contact. You can also change the text bubbles.
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You do realize today you can change the background to any picture including a different one for each contact. You can also change the text bubbles.
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Yes. Of course, but also, the text bubbles are very limited on the D800. Not sure if the Verizon one has more customization, but the AT&T one has maybe 8 presets. Of course you can change the background on each one, but it still doesn't solve the popup being white and the bubbles being very limited in customization.
When you look at your people in the stock messaging app you can't change that to dark which is my only issue with it for the most part. I just wish all apps had a inverted option. Better on your eyes and battery life.
Textra
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I agree but cannot move on due to the quick reply functionality.
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You may want to try the 4.4 apk of hangouts. That is the new messaging app for Aosp. It seems to work well and you do not need to be rooted.
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