First, I'm not new to the subject. Over the years I've used GSPlayer, MortPlayer, Nitrogen, WMP and various flavors of TCPMP. However, two things happened recently:
- I've switched from Dell Axim X51v to Touch Pro 2 - so finger friendliness is a must.
- I started using WMP media sync on the desktop.
What it means... the WMP puts every album in its own folder. So say I have a dozen MP3s of same artist, from ten different albums. They will be arranged in ten different folders. And synced that way. In the past, I would manually rearrange the songs. But this is tedious, and really unneeded on PC - WMP makes it very easy to quickly play songs by an artist without worrying about folders. When I had a burned HD and had to restore my entire music collection, I just left them the way they are. When using a player with library support on the phone, it's easy to play all songs by an artist.
Well, here's the issues I had with players:
WMP - well, it does have an equalizer as I just found (silly me...) not that easy to get to but it will do.
Mort Player - great functionality, but relatively slow to start; most other players start up almost instantly. Since I use player mainly in the car, I don't want to wait for it to get up while I am driving.
GSPlayer - no big button finger friendly skin that I know of, otherwise great.
Nitrogen - love it, but no library support. And no recursive directory selection mode, so the songs have to be added individually. Would be the player of choice otherwise.
TCPMP - I did find a couple of builds that support skins with large buttons. The one that I ended up with is just a tad slower to start than Nitro, still fast. No library support but the recursive directory selection mode basically replaces "All songs" feature. However:
- there's no way that I know of to make recursive directory selection a default mode - does anyone know if there's a way to do it ?
- Instead of showing album art JPGs it plays them. I.e. if I hit the skip button it treats art as a file to be played. Is there a way/setting to fix it ?
- Also, which build would you suggest for TP2 with stock Sprint 6.5 ROM ? This is probably what I will end up with for now.
Any help / suggestions appreciated.
hi. have you tried AvianPlay and S2P ?
Hi,
I have used “AvianPlay” on my windows mobile. I am satisfied with it, you should also try AvianPlay.
If you have any problems regarding this player, do let me know.
Thanks. Installed it at lunch, still updating library. Is it normal for Avian to take relatively long time to load, or does it do it only when updating lib ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670209
That's the iMulator a forum member made. It's a little buggy but I don't think it was intended for my phone. I love the app though, give it a shot I guess.
I still use PocketMusic
I prefer Pocket Player by Conduits. It comes with a great library. In fact it's the only player for Windows Mobile known to me with a real library like desktop players (Winamp...) offer it.
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I'm wondering if anyone has gotten Windows Media Player on WM 6.1 to play FLAC. Will it do WMA Lossless?
I am curious if WMA lossless works on the touch pro 2 also.
Windows Media Player on the Touch Pro will play them just fine, with album art as well! I can't see Microsoft removing WMA lossless support from WinMo, so it should work on the TP2, especially since the TP2 ships with WinMo 6.1 Pro.
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I personally hate using my HTC TP for music but it gets the job done when I'm not carrying my iPod Touch:
Copy music to SDMicro card -fine
Launch media player - ok, I have a shortcut for that so it's one tap after unlocking.
Manually trigger library update which is not fast (only for new music)
Make sure that it's set to use the storage card. (Yup, more than one Library)
Navigate through the lists - Not bad but damn it's ugly and text only.
Select what you want - No no no! No multi select for you! Queue it up one by one! And that requires highlighting the track, tap the Menu list then tap Queue.
Press play (That's right, you can't double tap or hold for a context menu, etc)
No real way to quickly get back to the Media Player if you wander out of the player to do something else.
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You can do a simple test by taking a music file and converting it to WMA lossless then copy the file to your phone and play it back.
I think there is a tiny buffering issue because I notice that lossless tracks have a tendancy to skip once in a while. It's not constant but it is annoying sometimes for me when I have it connected to my car stereo and I'm rockin out. All of a sudden, there's that split second pause that takes me out of my groove. It has happened on different tracks so I can't say it's the files themselves.
Nice! I just put a WMAL file on my phone and it plays natively. Awesome. Do you have any suggestions on how to batch convert wave files to WMAL? Windows Media Encoder is a pain.... Perhaps I dont know how to use it properly.
glad i did a search, was going to ask about this for my HTC fuze. now i just have to buy those darn usb to audio hack thingy.
lack of decent mp3 player on android for several years now is getting really absurd
there is not one mp3 player that combines all the basic features of other multimedia devices
features like:
1) folder play + choosing which folders to scan (not the player deciding my whole SD card is one huge mp3 library thus listing video game and gps navigation music files..)
2) equalizer (+presets)
3) visualization (album art is fine, but kind of static..)
4) volume control
5) music streaming
1) organising my mp3 library of 4+gb by using ID3 tags is nearly impossible since it would be too time consuming
i know mortplayer allows for folder playing, but its sound quality is abysmal - i have 12mb 320kbps mp3 that sound like utter s*it when played in this player, but sound fine in music mod
i know of one other mp3 player that allows for folder play and will check it out, but by the looks of it, its nothing special
2) probably the most needed function of all, i mean how hard can it be? its been 2 years now and until now there has been only 1 player with this function - its in beta, and doesnt save your presets, so once you reboot you have to change it all over again...
you could have the best headsets in the world, but it wouldnt mean crap without proper equalizer to tune them with
3) a gimmick, but a nice one, and a standard for, what, 10 years now?
4) HOW HARD CAN IT BE? instead of using hardware buttons, to have software sliders for fine tuning the volume
5) internet/LAN support
these are all basic functions
i have top of the notch android device (HTC desire) but it gets overshadowed by my puny 50€ (at the time) 4 year old sony mp3 player which supports everything on that list except for streams
i wish winamp would make android port..
concerning video support
if there were not for 3rd party developed rockplayer all of the platform would be quite useless on the multimedia side of things..
i love android, i love my cellphone
but i find it odd that even with its open nature, there are still basic functions missing even after all the years and numerous devices on the market
any notions on googles part that things might change soon?
I agree with your frustration. Coming from win mobile and pocketplayer I was very disappointed. Am currently using a cyanogen rom and it does have a dsp/equalizer but have yet seen a player with a comprehensive feature list. It was also nice to make your own skins and have a larger font size to see outdoors.
Have you searched xda, some pretty good music apps have been spawn from here, well members...
The whole sd scan is annoying, but I believe if you drop a ".nomedia" file in folders you don't want scanned they should be skipped, you might want to look into that as I'm not 100% on it...
But yeah, out of the literally dozens of music/media apps they all have there flaws I guess.
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hello
Furma said:
lack of decent mp3 player on android for several years now is getting really absurd
there is not one mp3 player that combines all the basic features of other multimedia devices
features like:
1) folder play + choosing which folders to scan (not the player deciding my whole SD card is one huge mp3 library thus listing video game and gps navigation music files..)
2) equalizer (+presets)
3) visualization (album art is fine, but kind of static..)
4) volume control
5) music streaming
1) organising my mp3 library of 4+gb by using ID3 tags is nearly impossible since it would be too time consuming
i know mortplayer allows for folder playing, but its sound quality is abysmal - i have 12mb 320kbps mp3 that sound like utter s*it when played in this player, but sound fine in music mod
i know of one other mp3 player that allows for folder play and will check it out, but by the looks of it, its nothing special
2) probably the most needed function of all, i mean how hard can it be? its been 2 years now and until now there has been only 1 player with this function - its in beta, and doesnt save your presets, so once you reboot you have to change it all over again...
you could have the best headsets in the world, but it wouldnt mean crap without proper equalizer to tune them with
3) a gimmick, but a nice one, and a standard for, what, 10 years now?
4) HOW HARD CAN IT BE? instead of using hardware buttons, to have software sliders for fine tuning the volume
5) internet/LAN support
these are all basic functions
i have top of the notch android device (HTC desire) but it gets overshadowed by my puny 50€ (at the time) 4 year old sony mp3 player which supports everything on that list except for streams
i wish winamp would make android port..
concerning video support
if there were not for 3rd party developed rockplayer all of the platform would be quite useless on the multimedia side of things..
i love android, i love my cellphone
but i find it odd that even with its open nature, there are still basic functions missing even after all the years and numerous devices on the market
any notions on googles part that things might change soon?
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any notions on googles part that things might change soon?[
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-myplayer-lightweight-music-player-t2892233
Have a try with this music player. It's still in beta but it's my favorite music player out all the ones I've tried and has quite a bit of what you're asking for.
Power amp is still the best on the market.
Hello all,
I like to organise my music in folders. Many times the audio files in my folders can each have different artist and album names and the usual way that media players group tracks by album/artist/genre doesn't work for me because of this. My ideal media player on the HD2 needs to be able to add the contents of folders (and recursively search down them) in alphabetical order to the "Now Playing" list. Regular playlist are not very useful to me as I like to mix up the music I listen to and it also means that I have to create and maintain a playlist for every music folder I have.
Nitrogen is the only media player on Windows Mobile that I know of that can do this and it's finger friendly. However, it doesn't have AVRCP support. Windows Media Player Mobile comes a close second, with full AVRCP support and the ability to add folders to the "Now Playing" list. However, it is not very finger friendly (but it's manageable) and doesn't do a recursive search. I bought Kinoma a while ago but ended up getting a refund because it doesn't know how to add items alphabetically. S2P claims that it has "folder based playback", but I've never managed to find out how to add folders to a "Now Playing" list.
Does my ideal music player exist?
- Finger friendly.
- Ability to add folders (and subfolders) to a "Now Playing" list.
- Full AVRCP support.
--Amr
check Conduits Pocket Player
Just been trying Conduits Pocket Player - very good! Ticks pretty much all my boxes. I'd say the UI of Nitrogen is nicer and its faster too, but Pocket Player has all the features I want and runs quite nicely. Thanks for the suggestion!
--Amr
I'm a bit of an audiophile and for me the music side of things really is lacking in Android. Its absolutely fine for example if you come home in the evening and want to listen to a few albums, its 110% no problems at all.
I listen to music on my phone 8-9 hours a day at work and its a let down.
Getting songs on it for a start is a nightmare, sure you can plunk all in a music folder again fine for listening to an odd album or whatever but there is no sort of organisation, Say I want a playlist with song 2 from album E followed by song 1 from album C and so on this is a nightmare to create on the phone, this is where iTunes comes into its element. Sure we have things like Doubletwist, on paper it should be fantastic, but the reality is it duplicates songs and playlist and isn't even smart enough to recognize duplicates in your library, there is also things like Winamp and its wireless syncing, it takes forever and again duplicates.
Then we have the problem with MP4 files, My Galaxy S2 can recognize many files but has issues with MP4 files, you get song name but artist info etc all unknown, it can't read the tags.
Then general sound levels, I've tried 3 android phones over the years and all 3 are to low, they are about 70% that of an iPhone and this is fine for general listening but if your fave song comes on you like a bit of a boost and well you can't, I also work in quite a noisy environment and machinery can he heard over the top of the phone on full, there are apps like Volume+ which claim can boost the volume and well they can but it distorts so all rather pointless.
Then there is finding a player, I've notice volume differs between them all, and some can't read the playlists you've created so in the end i;ve had to stick to stock player, although crap its the best of a bad bunch.
A feature I also liked on iTunes was Genius, I could pick a song say a rock song, hit a button and it would create a playlist similar, even if this was possible on android it wouldn't work anyway as all the MP4 tags are fooked.
So as I say I take music seriously and I suspect 90% of people won't care about these issues but I do and am hoping for some good advise as don't want to go back to iPhone but at the moments its looking like the only solution as Android is so frustrating to use for music.
First off, look at Voodoo sound control from the android market. It's often times included in custom ROMs. It will allow you to pump the volume up far beyond the stock ROM's capabilities. There's quite a few other tweaks it offers that I'm sure you'll find. The only catch with Voodoo is that it's only compatible with certain Kernels.
As for media playback, "Music" by Google is pretty powerful. It's not the same program that many phones run stock. It has support for FLAC playback, Song info lookup, even lyric support.
I recommend you take a look at PowerAmp. I am a music nut like you and it does everything and more! There is a full featured trial version and to buy it is only a few bucks. Check it out.
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I have to use music by G but I wish it has some more useful features like 'query' or 'play after this song' such.
There will probably never be a mobile player that will do Replay Gain on the fly so i suggest your grab yourself a copy of mp3gain for your PC. Plug your phone in via USB, drag and drop your music from phone to program interface, set level to 92db, Scan Tracks and then Apply Gain.
92db may be higher than some of your tracks already are and may be lower than others. Find a level that gives you the audio boost you need. As all tracks are set to the same level you won't have to adjust volume between tracks during playback.
There are plenty of players with Playlist support so that's covered. Try one of the ones mentioned above.
I think i've found the answer by accident, I was using Media Monkey I noticed it has a feature to analyze the volume of tracks, so I got them all analyzed and noticed most were in or around -10db, I hit level which brought them up to 0 to +5db and I have noticed a good improvement, It also sorted out all my tagging and artwork issues and even synced my playlists perfectly to my phone.
anyone suggest a music player that works in a "flat file" fashion? i.e. gives an interface similar to a file manager that exposes at the folder level and lets me select any/all of my files without categorizing or "genius"-izing my stuff [which always fails in my case] ??
I've tried:
poweramp
winamp [been awhile - liked it on pcs, not on android]
TTPod [current - misses 70% of my files]
Mixzing
Cloudskipper [worthless]
a couple I can't recall
and the default
?
Music Folder Player Free
"Music Folder Player Free" by ZorillaSoft
"MortPlayer Music" by Mirko Schenk
wouldn't you know it... five minutes after posting I decided I'd try one of the ones I had not tried, and it works. Playerpro Trial has a folder feature and it just works. the album view genre view and others are predictably worthless, but at least it lets me find what I know is there, and all the files are shown intact, and to its credit it ignores empty folders. I'll take a look a Mort again - tried it before but can't recall the detail. and I'll definitely try folder player - sounds like someone gave 'em a tip.
Now I need a different thread - which one's the best of those that properly discover files? My second highest priority is the quality of the sound, and the one reason why I was quite fond of TTPod [while it was still free, of course] was its robust EQ. But on a P500/P509 such as i have, does it matter? the audio component is pretty lousy... Poweramp and Powerplay [the one I just installed] have DSP's they download for the 'unlocked' version. does it really help?
I am running backside on my OV. Since it's not the same phone I can't guarantee that you would see the same results, but just the dsp manager built into cm7 has made a very noticeable sound quality difference in my phone, so anything with a decent dsp should help. I'm still looking for a good free music player like what you're describing. I've settled for mixzing, but not a huge fan. Apparently the paid version of winamp offers folder based playing as well as gapless playback. I'm a big fan of electronica, so this has made winamp a major consideration as my next app purchase. Check it out if you haven't yet, might fit what you're looking for. Good luck.
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