[Q] Leo some Qs - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I have a Leo on order from O2 and I had a couple of quick questions.
1. Is there a workable extended battery solution and a belt-clip case that fits along the lines of the old O2 XDAIIi case which can be detached from the plastic belt clip?
2. Is Android actually usable and easily hot-swappable with Win 6.5 from the SD card?
3. Are there alternatives to the onscreen keyboard supplied?
4. Is there a workable external keyboard and stand solution?
I know the answers are buried somewhere, and I've looked, but a quick summary would be much appreciated.
Thanks
M

1) not that I know of
2) It's "usable" in a way that it'll never be 100% to a native android phone
3) You mean 3rd party software like Swype? No
4) there are bluetooth keyboards and stands available

Great thanks for the summary. Presumably there is an extended battery solution but not the case.
Is Android just slow and a bit buggy?
Can it do Flash on the web?

Mus said:
Is Android just slow and a bit buggy?
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Android runs very smooth and with as few problems as any mobile phone (on its native OS). Older versions of Android were both laggy and buggy, but all the latest builds are running very well. I've gone 3 months without using Windows on my phone.
Mus said:
Can it do Flash on the web?
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Some flash, yes. I'm not sure what version the player is, but don't expect a fully functioning Flash plugin. That's the same on Android too. Also, if you're after web-based Flash content then you'll get a lot of people recommending Skyfire. I tried it myself and hated it with a passion, but it's worth a try at least.

Mus said:
Hi,
3. Are there alternatives to the onscreen keyboard supplied?
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if the original keyboard proves unacceptable to you, there is a number of keyboard mods here on xda

johncmolyneux said:
Android runs very smooth and with as few problems as any mobile phone (on its native OS). Older versions of Android were both laggy and buggy, but all the latest builds are running very well. I've gone 3 months without using Windows on my phone.
Some flash, yes. I'm not sure what version the player is, but don't expect a fully functioning Flash plugin. That's the same on Android too. Also, if you're after web-based Flash content then you'll get a lot of people recommending Skyfire. I tried it myself and hated it with a passion, but it's worth a try at least.
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OK thanks, that's good enough for me.

p107r0 said:
if the original keyboard proves unacceptable to you, there is a number of keyboard mods here on xda
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Great, I had got the impression somehow there was no way round it.

the keyboard layout definition is stored in xml files, so it's relatively easy to modify the buttons sizes for example, one such attempt here, but before you start experimenting give yourself a week or two to get used to it - imho the original keyboard is actually quite ok

Great! Thanks for the replies. All sounds good.
Are 32Gb MicroSD cards still a bit of an elusive item? Do I just get Sandisk 16Gb - does it matter about the Class?
Is there a safe hotswappable Android install/build to start with which won't void the warranty?
Also, what's the most cost effective SatNav - on WinMo or Android?
Thanks again.

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Help to find a ROM

I'm looking through the posts here, but there are so many ROM's it's overwhelming.
I am looking for a clean Windows Mobile ROM, without TouchFlo or any other HTC involvements. I don't know if such a ROM exists.
I have disabled TouchFlo now, but it's not possible to get rid of it completely, e.g. volumeadjustment and commanager.
I need all the hardware to work though. Camera, GPS, Radio and my Scandinavian keyboard. Maybe there are drivers I can install for this?
If such a ROM exists, I will buy a new Touch Pro to test with, so I don't mess up the one I use daily.
Anyone who can help?
there really aren't that many ROMs. try searching "clean" or "non-sense" and you'll probably find what you're looking for. i believe your scandinavian keyboard is just the touch pro keyboard (instead of Fuze)? in which case it usually supported by all ROMs or theres a keyboard selector to change it easily.
and do you really not need volume and commanager? pretty important for standard phone usage or at the very least, i would like to control the volume.
i suppose GPS isn't that common a phone feature but if you can afford to buy another Touch Pro just to test it out, why not just buy a simple phone with the wanted features which will probably have longer battery life and be smaller than the touch pro? just a thought.
Thanks for your reply.
First to clearify something; I do need volume and commanager. What I meant is that I like the Windows volume and commanager better than the one HTC provided. A lot easier to use. I'm used to it from Windows Mobile 5.
I like my Touch Pro and I haven't found a better phone yet. And I need the GPS. I will search some more. The ROM's I have found so far all have the TouchFlo included.
Thanks again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528217
this fits the bill....im using it and i like a lot!
That is the rom , you are looking for .İt is a very very clean rom , as you wish
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650654
blop001 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528217
this fits the bill....im using it and i like a lot!
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Thanks, could be worth trying
cafein said:
That is the rom , you are looking for .İt is a very very clean rom , as you wish
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650654
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This one too. I will have a look at these and maybe I just order another Touch Pro. Thanks
Suggestions provided; thread closed.

Wll we ever be "stable"

I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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bijan588 said:
I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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Devs are making leaps and bounds recently... the list of bugs is just so high, there's a lot of little things to squash - with the addition of pieces of hardware still not being functional.
So have a little patience, and show a little respect. We'll get there eventually - and as always, patches welcome - if you think you've got the talent to fix things fix them and give us patches! Don't sit on the sidelines and ***** about how stuff doesn't work. Doesn't do anyone a damned bit of good.
bijan588 said:
I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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we are "stable" look at Arrrghs post below
BUILD] **Complete Froyo Bundle!!** FRX06 - "Stable" - Minor Fixes
Originally Posted By: arrrghhh
I was running this bundle for a while and in the begining I did have some issues but that's cause I didnt know crap. but now that I have learned a litle about each bundle and how they work and how to make it run better, I said good bye to windows and hello droid.
I'm testing another bundle and so far its prettty good.
THANKS TO ALL DEVS, ARRRGH PLEASE EXCUSE THOSE WHO COMPLAIN BUT DONT DO ANYTHING TO FIX THINGS. THANKS ARRGH FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND I AM SCREAMING DAMN IT!!!!!
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I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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It really depends, partially on usage scenarios. xdandroid FRX05/06 on RHOD300 is close to what many WinMo ROMs achieved in terms of general stability. It's actually better than the old version of Energy I was using (which hung on boot 50% of the time, but would be fine after that.) I'm using the xdandroid source tree myself as my daily phone with lots of success.
Power management issues are getting knocked down pretty fast (major focus right now for the devs, primarily being worked by WisTilt2)
RIL issues are on the way to resolution, thanks to independent efforts by highlandsun and WisTilt2. I'm personally hoping to maybe see WisTilt2 hand off his work to highlandsun so WisTilt2 can resume working the kernel PM stuff
Bluetooth is in progress - sounds like we're close, but it's lower priority. Unfortunately the Bluetooth commits and WisTilt2's latest PM work are conflicting, so there isn't a kernel that includes both the improved PM and the improved BT support. I suspect this will change in a week or two.
GPS - It's functional enough for most people, so currently is very low priority. I've done a little work here since I'm not really qualified to work some of the other stuff. Ideally the GPS will get cleaned up so it doesn't wakelock us (we have an easy workaround for that), and time/loc injection can be implemented for faster locking (This requires a significant reverse engineering effort though - Qualcomm changed the interface enough with newer gpsOne solutions that I don't think we can use the code/documentation from the cyanogenMod and AOSP GIT trees.). Lack of XTRA isn't a priority at all for those running from SD, it's a big issue for NAND though.
The progress made in the last several months has been significant. Back near the beginning of the year I was having to delete my data.img and restore from backups every few days. The latest kernels and system releases have solved a ton of issues.
Bluetooth and ril fixes are all that's needed to make me completely forget about Windows mobile on this phone.
toadlife said:
The progress made in the last several months has been significant. Back near the beginning of the year I was having to delete my data.img and restore from backups every few days. The latest kernels and system releases have solved a ton of issues.
Bluetooth and ril fixes are all that's needed to make me completely forget about Windows mobile on this phone.
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I already forgot about windows. I use droid daily. it's stable enough for me
arrrghhh said:
Devs are making leaps and bounds recently... the list of bugs is just so high, there's a lot of little things to squash - with the addition of pieces of hardware still not being functional.
So have a little patience, and show a little respect. We'll get there eventually - and as always, patches welcome - if you think you've got the talent to fix things fix them and give us patches! Don't sit on the sidelines and ***** about how stuff doesn't work. Doesn't do anyone a damned bit of good.
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Sorry, I'm not tryin to complain.
I was just thinking "has ther ever been a 100% port of android to a windowss phone"
I dident intend to sound like a spoiled brat, and I understand a ton of work goes into this project.
Sadly I only know java and am of no use to you guys, if I tried to help I would end up being anotheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer tiad 8.
Oh look! The famus key stuck bug
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bijan588 said:
Sorry, I'm not tryin to complain.
I was just thinking "has ther ever been a 100% port of android to a windowss phone"
I dident intend to sound like a spoiled brat, and I understand a ton of work goes into this project.
Sadly I only know java and am of no use to you guys, if I tried to help I would end up being anotheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer tiad 8.
Oh look! The famus key stuck bug
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Yes, there are still bugs out there.
There are two WinMo phones that I'd say have a 'complete' port - HD2 and Vogue. Now I don't think every single feature has been matched, but they're considered stable and almost every feature has been ported over to Android.
I'm on FRX05 with the 3/11 wistilt2 kernal and this thing is heaven. I don't get any lagging unless I run a crap ton of apps at once or try and download a ton of programs off the market at once (that would slow down any phone). I get through the day with about 40% battery still left. Bluetooth isn't completely working but I don't use that. What more are you looking for in terms of stability? Android can be even less buggy/laggy than some Winmo Cookie 2.0 ROMs in my opinion.
Wow, this is pretty impressive.
I'm an old TP2 (VZW) user, got a Droid X in October as a replacement.
I saw a video for the HD2 and figured I'd check out my old phone and see how Android development is going. I've kept my TP2 in case I ever did any world travel, so this is definitely something I'm going to start watching.
Just a few questions.
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
2) What's not working exactly? I've gathered BT and GPS (but not sure exactly what doesn't work with GPS), but I'm sure there is more.
3) Can this be flashed as the default OS, or does it need to be launched as an EXE from the SD card?
4) Can someone guide me to the best install guide? I'm considering popping this on to my TP2 and playing around with it (via WiFi).
5) How well does WiFi hotspot work?
6) Are all builds rooted by default?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
arrrghhh said:
Yes, there are still bugs out there.
There are two WinMo phones that I'd say have a 'complete' port - HD2 and Vogue. Now I don't think every single feature has been matched, but they're considered stable and almost every feature has been ported over to Android.
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Yeah, my wife has the HD2 and *everything* (that I know of) works.
EtherBoo said:
Wow, this is pretty impressive.
I'm an old TP2 (VZW) user, got a Droid X in October as a replacement.
I saw a video for the HD2 and figured I'd check out my old phone and see how Android development is going. I've kept my TP2 in case I ever did any world travel, so this is definitely something I'm going to start watching.
Just a few questions.
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
2) What's not working exactly? I've gathered BT and GPS (but not sure exactly what doesn't work with GPS), but I'm sure there is more.
3) Can this be flashed as the default OS, or does it need to be launched as an EXE from the SD card?
4) Can someone guide me to the best install guide? I'm considering popping this on to my TP2 and playing around with it (via WiFi).
5) How well does WiFi hotspot work?
6) Are all builds rooted by default?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
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1) All UI elements are large enough that I've never had a need for the stylus in Android. However, since it is a resistive touchscreen, often "fingertip" dragging isn't so hot (single-presses OK, dragging less so) - Fingernails are great for this. I'd say it's about on par with my Huawei S7 in terms of touchability.
2) 3.5mm jack is completely nonfunctional on devices that have it
Headset via ExtUSB is flaky - few people use it so it doesn't get much testing/dev attention
BT is nonfunctional right now, I'd say it's the biggest "missing" item
GPS is usable but has performance issues in terms of initial lock times. Once locked it works great. There are two issues - Ephemeride preloading (XTRA, or in terminology more familiar on the WinMo side, QuickGPS) is not implemented. Fortunately XTRA loading can be done from WinMo prior to booting Android. There's also GPS time/location injection used to "warm start" the GPS - also not implemented.
Camera is a little flaky, but there have been major strides in that in the past month
Power management is still a little flaky, but I think WisTilt2's kernel work is nearly complete
Our RIL has definite known issues, esp. on CDMA phones. WisTilt2 was working it a bit, and highlandsun has made MAJOR improvements in just the past week
bijan588 said:
Sorry, I'm not tryin to complain.
I was just thinking "has ther ever been a 100% port of android to a windowss phone"
I dident intend to sound like a spoiled brat, and I understand a ton of work goes into this project.
Sadly I only know java and am of no use to you guys, if I tried to help I would end up being anotheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer tiad 8.
Oh look! The famus key stuck bug
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The HD2 has a pretty close to 100% port of android... the HD2 is even starting to get it's own CM7 build... not a port, a build made specifically for it. I think it was easier porting android to the HD2, though, because there are many similar android devices that use similar hardware. Also the HD2 seemed to have a lot more devs working on the project.
I love my HD2... it's my main phone and will be for at least another 6 months. Currently running WP7 on NAND and running a CM7 build from my SD card, and even running from SD card, it runs about as well as a native android device. It's going to be hard to move on to a new phone when I'm used to being able to run both WP7 and Android.
Anyways, sorry for the HD2 talk in the Rhodium forum. I'm new in this section... just got myself a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 to play with and use as spare phone, so I'll be around these parts more from now on.
Is cotulla still working on magldr for the rhodium? Any recent news on that. Having magldr can make the rhodium much more like a native android phone, especially if he has recovery support.
absolutely, magldr 113 is phenominal on my hd2, i'd never go back to windows again, i've been using frx06 with different highlandsun's ril and arrrghhh's kernel for a few days with verrry few problems. i can't wait to get it on nand and have a clockwork mod system
As to the HD2 - As I understand it, there seems to be far fewer variations between Snapdragon configurations as there were for MSM7k configurations.
As a result, it's a lot easier to target one of the rare non-Android Snapdragons when so many Snapdragons ran Android.
EtherBoo said:
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
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1 Winmo is much better for fingers. I can not use fingers for soft keyboard on Android. Seem to me that WM has a lot of filtering, that is missing in Android. Using my nails work pretty well though.
7 I recommend you try them all. All of them have issues. Find one you can live with
Many people has had success with Huawei, its pretty easy to install, so I would start with that. Does not work for me though.
FRX05/06 are easy ready-to-go-bundles as well.
EtherBoo said:
Just a few questions.
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
2) What's not working exactly? I've gathered BT and GPS (but not sure exactly what doesn't work with GPS), but I'm sure there is more.
3) Can this be flashed as the default OS, or does it need to be launched as an EXE from the SD card?
6) Are all builds rooted by default?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
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1.) I much prefer androids UI to that of winmo, stylus is needed less but I still use it occasionly . But I didn't use it much in winmo eithar as iv grown good at precise use of the touchscreen But android is still a lot less fiddly
2.)Most of these have already been pointed out but as usual I'm adding in my own personally annoyance Idv3 tags in mp3s are not being read. So you can listen to your music, but album/artist/album art/ and da rest of it won't be seen in most mp3s.
3.) Great progress is being made. . . . .but atm its still reccomended to boot using HARET on sd
6.) Yes afaik the builds are rooted because root is access to /system . . .which seeing as its on the sd card it can be accesed/edited. (Btw can only onfirm for certain that root apps and exploring of root in android in neopeek builds . . . Havnt tried on an xda build as of yet)
7.)well first of all you need to decide wether you want to run a partition(neopeek) build , or a system.ext2 file (xda) build . . . . .you being new id recommend a build here on xda as setup is easier, that does leav you with less choices though but The latest FRX0- build should satify your craving for android . Arrrghhh has made a thread with the build and instructions.
Jandyman said:
2.)Most of these have already been pointed out but as usual I'm adding in my own personally annoyance Idv3 tags in mp3s are not being read. So you can listen to your music, but album/artist/album art/ and da rest of it won't be seen in most mp3s.
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I'd like to address this issue.
I think this is simply an issue with ID3v1 and v2 tags. Have you made sure both tags are populated on your music?
If it's not this issue, then I'm not sure. I've only tried streaming music, haven't tried playing it locally yet...
teemo said:
1 Winmo is much better for fingers. I can not use fingers for soft keyboard on Android. Seem to me that WM has a lot of filtering, that is missing in Android. Using my nails work pretty well though.
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I had this problem too but you can simply fix it by downloading a keyboard app from the market (like 'Gingerbread Keyboard' or 'SwiftKey').
I am using Gingerbread Keyboard and that is working much more exactly than the standard keyboard for me.
One more questi.
Is it possibe to make the browser scroll faster. And less choppy?
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[Q] - About to buy one but wanted to ask these things first

Thanks for stopping to read this.
I wanted to know if this has been rooted yet, and also if I can load it up to honeycomb yet?
On a side note does anyone know if the snes and other emulators work well on it?
RiffyDivine said:
Thanks for stopping to read this.
I wanted to know if this has been rooted yet, and also if I can load it up to honeycomb yet?
On a side note does anyone know if the snes and other emulators work well on it?
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Hello,
Replacing with the firmware makes the device root. You have multiple to choose from. TNT lite. Vegan Etc..
I have not seen honeycomb firmware yet but the word is that the devs are looking in to in and will be available once it is fully tested.
I have seen the emulators work on the viewsonic so the question to that is YES..
Enjoy..
I think most of us bought this for the hardware knowing that Android developers will eventually bring us everything we want and more. If the tab can't do "it" now I am sure it will soon.
cd112 said:
Hello,
Replacing with the firmware makes the device root. You have multiple to choose from. TNT lite. Vegan Etc..
I have not seen honeycomb firmware yet but the word is that the devs are looking in to in and will be available once it is fully tested.
I have seen the emulators work on the viewsonic so the question to that is YES..
Enjoy..
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Thanks, it will be here tomorrow. I just needed to find the specs sheet on tiger and was sold. Can't believe it's a 150 dollars off right now, it's less then my cellphone was. Glad it is on sale, it can replace the crappy dual boot viewsonic tablet I got. Wish it had said on the site hey this isn't real android on here.
I was also reading, people say flashing a CFW is simple with the gtablet. Something about how there are no blocks or anything in the way to keep you from doing it which is great. So I will just look around in here for the how to flash unless it's as simple as CWM.
Yep, just CWM! Though, possibly a touch more than normal with a simple phone, like the Droid. You need to repartition it in CWM for best results, then wipe everything, then install the ROM. Depending on the ROM, you most likely will want to install GAPPS after. That's pretty much it! Most of the ROMs come with decent kernels, I've noticed.
Good thread to step through the process.
www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016695
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Yep, just CWM! Though, possibly a touch more than normal with a simple phone, like the Droid. You need to repartition it in CWM for best results, then wipe everything, then install the ROM. Depending on the ROM, you most likely will want to install GAPPS after. That's pretty much it! Most of the ROMs come with decent kernels, I've noticed.
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What is gapps? Is it a stock apps store just for the gtab.
RiffyDivine said:
Wish it had said on the site hey this isn't real android on here.
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It is real android, they just their own "layer" on top of it. It is fairly easy to install another Rom on this thing, just make sure you read, understand, and follow the directions carefully.
Once you get it installed, unless you feel comfortable with possibly having to do a bit of work if you "mess it up", I would try not to fool around with it too much. I've installed Vegan-Tab 5.1.1, and a kernel, and it runs fine, so I try to just use it as is...
back it up with nvflash before you start rooting....that will prevent you from bricking your tab. I just got mine last week and its amazing how well it works . I am currently testing our different roms on it to see which one I like the best. Vegan 5.1.1 and TNT Lite 4.4 are pretty nice to start off with.
TheKaz said:
It is real android, they just their own "layer" on top of it. It is fairly easy to install another Rom on this thing, just make sure you read, understand, and follow the directions carefully.
Once you get it installed, unless you feel comfortable with possibly having to do a bit of work if you "mess it up", I would try not to fool around with it too much. I've installed Vegan-Tab 5.1.1, and a kernel, and it runs fine, so I try to just use it as is...
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No no sorry, I ment the other viewsonic tablet. The one that dual boots win7 and x86 android.
rbansal2 said:
back it up with nvflash before you start rooting....that will prevent you from bricking your tab. I just got mine last week and its amazing how well it works . I am currently testing our different roms on it to see which one I like the best. Vegan 5.1.1 and TNT Lite 4.4 are pretty nice to start off with.
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Always good to backup, I assume as long as you get that even if you totally mess up you can just reflash it and try again. It will be here tomorrow around 11ish, so once I get done at the office going to get a few ciders and attack this thing.
RiffyDivine said:
What is gapps? Is it a stock apps store just for the gtab.
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Depending on the package, it will be some of the missing Google stock apps. such as the Market.
One other thing - boot it and set up wireless so you can get any over the air updates before you put a new ROM on.
chadness said:
Depending on the package, it will be some of the missing Google stock apps. such as the Market.
One other thing - boot it and set up wireless so you can get any over the air updates before you put a new ROM on.
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Thanks mate, I planned to try out the stock first just to see what they did with it.
Oh, one other thing. How is the screen on this? Nice and clear? I only ask cause on the viewpad 10 I bought some months back, well the screen looks awful unless you got it maxed brightness, it just always looks like there is dust on it.
RiffyDivine said:
Oh, one other thing. How is the screen on this? Nice and clear? I only ask cause on the viewpad 10 I bought some months back, well the screen looks awful unless you got it maxed brightness, it just always looks like there is dust on it.
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I think it looks really good, as long as you are at the right angle. You probably heard that it has a narrow field of view if you tilt it up or down (while being held in landscape). But, when looking at a decent angle (tilted less than 45 degrees, maybe?) the screen itself is bright and clear.
chadness said:
I think it looks really good, as long as you are at the right angle. You probably heard that it has a narrow field of view if you tilt it up or down (while being held in landscape). But, when looking at a decent angle (tilted less than 45 degrees, maybe?) the screen itself is bright and clear.
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That sounds about the same for the angles as the viewpad 10. My only problem was that it honestly always looks like a dusty. But I will know for sure in about 3 hours when I am done here. Don't most tablets have issues if you try to tilt them too much one way or another?
cdavisccs28 said:
Good thread to step through the process.
www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016695
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weird seems that link doesn't work.
EVEN WORSE, there is like 2 pixles that are red. Are they dead or just somehow locked?

Question about a ROM

Howzit guys,
I have a HTC Aria the AT&T version. I've rooted my phone and all the jazz. I'm interested in putting this ROM on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588599
What I want to know is how much internal space will be available once the ROM is installed. I currently an running Froyo/w HTC Sense and there just isn't enough internal storage space on the phone.
Regards
There's much more space in non HTC Sense roms I think. If I remember correctly, there's about 118mb free at the start.
Also, you can use S2E to move your dalvik cache to the sd card which will give you an additional 50-100mb depending on your apps.
Where can I get S2E?
You can find s2e on the Google Play store. It uses a partition on your sd card. To create the partition you can use a function in the Rom Manager app, which should have come with the ROM you installed. If not, its also on the Play store. You can also create the partition with Clockwork recovery. It will completely wipe your sd card, so make sure you have a backup of stuff you want to save. The ROM Manager method is a little easier.
Once the partition is setup, s2e will give you the option of loading cache and program files to the sd card partition. When you have it load program files, it automatically loads all existing and new downloaded programs to the sd partition. Even those that usually don't provide that option. In fact, DON'T SET "MOVE TO SD" FOR INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS. While it sounds a little counter-intuitive, it will actually defeat the s2e function. The sd partition actually becomes an extension of your phone's memory. Its a very clever program for phones with limited memory.
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I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
ZorAxe said:
I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
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Well, we assumed you were switching to CyanogenMod. That's why we recommended that app.
It only works on CM. Sorry if I confused you.
Me to. In your first post you said you were going to load CM 9.
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ZorAxe said:
I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
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If you are concerned about free space, I'd advise you to install Cyanogenmod and then use S2E. If configured correctly, it will give you as much space for apps as you are willing to dedicate on your SD card. Preferably do that only with a reasonably fast SD card (class 2 is probably too slow).
Sorry if I caused confusion there. Out of all the ROM available for HTC Aria, which do you guys rate as the best and which are you currently using?
I don't wanna go through all the effort of installing and backing-up and it turns out I put a bad ROM on my phone.
I would recommend this ROM by WinSuk. I think it is the most up-to-date CM9 / ICS ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451906
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ZorAxe said:
Sorry if I caused confusion there. Out of all the ROM available for HTC Aria, which do you guys rate as the best and which are you currently using?
I don't wanna go through all the effort of installing and backing-up and it turns out I put a bad ROM on my phone.
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I would recommend CM7.2. even though it's not as up to date as ICS, it's very stable, and no bugs as far as I can tell.
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable&device=liberty
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
gfinockio said:
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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I use Cy 7.2 before and it is really great, I just couldn't get used to the keyboard, but I'm really considering going back because internal space is becoming an issue.
ZorAxe said:
I use Cy 7.2 before and it is really great, I just couldn't get used to the keyboard, but I'm really considering going back because internal space is becoming an issue.
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I use Swype for the keyboard. You should try it out.
Are you using S2E? if not, I really recommend you use it. Just follow yar2's small tutorial he gave you.
gfinockio said:
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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I used to be a Sense guy too, but with all the customizations CM7.2 had to offer, I just couldn't go back. Although, the battery life is a little bit of an issue(Not too much though).
gfinockio said:
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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Not trying to advertise or anything here (okay maybe ), but in case you haven't looked at the CM9 thread in awhile, everything works on the camera except video (which used to work, which is strange), and a separate app can be used to take it if needed.
There's also a 2.3 based sense ROM around here somewhere ("Gingersense" I think), but I don't remember if everything works on it..
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There's also a 2.3 based sense ROM around here somewhere ("Gingersense" I think), but I don't remember if everything works on it..
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【ROM】liberty_sense3.5_Bliss_Beta2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S "ZY Modded" RC3.1 [Gingersense 2.3.3]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S 3.5 "ZY MODDED"(Port of HTX Zero WS):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568366
Liberty S(GingerSense 2.3.3) 4th of July BBQ Special: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151921
I think this is most of them. which one where you referring to?
WinSuk said:
Not trying to advertise or anything here (okay maybe ), but in case you haven't looked at the CM9 thread in awhile, everything works on the camera except video (which used to work, which is strange), and a separate app can be used to take it if needed.
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So what doesn't work, then? FM radio? Watching videos on Youtube?
Also - none of those "Gingersense" ROMs were worth much, as Bluetooth and other functionality would either crash the phone or not work at all. Never a true working phone option...
aster190 said:
【ROM】liberty_sense3.5_Bliss_Beta2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S "ZY Modded" RC3.1 [Gingersense 2.3.3]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S 3.5 "ZY MODDED"(Port of HTX Zero WS):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568366
Liberty S(GingerSense 2.3.3) 4th of July BBQ Special: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151921
I think this is most of them. which one where you referring to?
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Not sure now... I think I tried at least one awhile ago.. didn't keep it for very long though
gfinockio said:
So what doesn't work, then? FM radio? Watching videos on Youtube?
Also - none of those "Gingersense" ROMs were worth much, as Bluetooth and other functionality would either crash the phone or not work at all. Never a true working phone option...
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Everything not working is listed in the thread. Pretty much only one major thing remains - videos use a software decoder instead of hardware, and if videos are too big (say, bigger then the screen's resolution) they play slow. So HQ on YouTube is mostly unwatchable, but LQ plays fine
There's also a bug/memory leak in the decoder, and if it goes too long the system will run out of memory & reboot (this bug is fixed in Jellybean/CM10 though)
FM radio works with Spirit FM
I should note that battery life probably won't be as good though (kind of expected with all the new stuff I think)
You can always try it and revert back if you don't like it
I read through the thread - it sounds more like a testing ROM than an everyday ROM still, at least for how I would use it.
I might take the leap to CM7.2 again though, and hope I can manage the battery better.
Ok so I really need to put a new ROM on now cause my phones internal storage is so low I can't even open my Gallery anymore. I've been looking at CM7 or CM9 but there's so many different version on each, how do I know which is the most stable for everyday use?

Instructions to Root Huawei Ascend D1 Quad (XL) [U9510(e)]

Hi Guys,
Below is the Chinese and a rough English translation of a walkthrough the user genokolar posted on a Chinese Forum b b s . anzhi . c o m on how to root the Huawei Ascend D1 Quad (U9510), and since I have less than 10 post and is unable to post links, please link them together yourselves to visit the respective pages, thanks!
*DISCLAIMER*
I will take no responsibilities if anything goes wrong, but it's also highly unlikely that anything will
此工具支持ROOT你的手机,手机电源管理,精简系统【需要精简列表】,ADB连接打补丁【如谷歌服务包】
1、在手机上的开启ADB调试
2、USB连接手机到电脑,确认正确安装驱动
3、运行工具,点击相应的按钮,会有相关提示
4、某些操作需要ROOT权限,请先ROOT你的手机
5、鼠标悬停到按钮上会有简短说明
工具详细使用方法: w w w .iamgeno . c o m /archives/210. h t m l
1、安装谷歌服务包
下载谷歌服务包: w w w .iamgeno . c o m/patch
点击“安装补丁”按钮,然后选择你下载的谷歌服务包
工具会自动开始打补丁,会显示相关信息
手机会自动重启一次【因为有系统关键文件被替换了】
重启完成后再打一次补丁【因为有系统关键文件被替换了】
进入“电源管理”,点击”重启手机“
完成
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This application will help you root your phone, as well as other things such as patching your in Google Service Applications:
1. Turn on USB Debugging on your phone (Settings -> Developer Options -> Check USB Debugging)
2. Connect your phone to your PC via USB Connection
3. Run the application and use the appropriate options
4. Some operations require root, so please root your phone first
5. Brief descriptions of the options will appear if you hover mouse above the option
Instructions on how to use this application:
1. Installing Google Service Application Pack
1) Download GApps
2) Click "安装补丁" and select the GApps file you downloaded in the previous step
3) The tool will run the patch and display any relevant information
4) Your phone will restart
5) The application will finish up patching after the restart
6) Hold the power button, and when the Power Off menu shows up, click on Restart instead.
7) Your phone now has google applications installed.
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I have also attached an image of what the tool looks like with translations of the only 2 options which you will need to use, and the Huawei USB drivers the forum user 淚傾城 provided on anzhi bbs.
[Source]
The below is a method brunes came up with:
brunes_007 said:
Having bought one of these from China, and having very little to noting written on this device so far, I had to figure a bunch of this out myself... so I thought I should share my findings with the community.
If you order one of these from China, you will find that it does not have the Google apps and utilities on it. So to get them on, first you will have to root it.
The first method I tried was via the recovery mode, which I determined you access by holding volume up + power until it reboots into it. However, you will find unfortunately that the recovery mode on this device is locked and it will only flash signed updates, so that method is out.
I tried a bunch more methods and exploits until I finally found one that worked - that was this Root_with_restore method on XDA. Follow the instructions in this thread and you will have rooted your device.
Now that my device was rooted, the next problem was how to install the Google apps. I downloaded the latest ICS apps from goo.im - but remember, you can not flash these. I tried installing ROM manager from the market and using that to flash CWM recovery, but that didn't work. What DID work, and what I ended up doing, was simply unzipping the gapps.zip onto my MIcro SD card, then (as root on the phone), copying the entire contents of the "system" folder from that SD card over the /system directory on the phone. After I did this, and rebooted, I now had all of the Google apps working!
I was able to add my account and install all needed apps from the market to make this phone really shine.
My next goal is to figure out how to get CWM working on this phone. I am doing a bunch of reading on the topic and might have something to report later this week.
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simonfzhao said:
Hi Guys,
Can anyone please point me in the right direction on steps to root and install the Google applications (Play Store, Google Contact Sync, etc.) on my Huawei U9510e (Ascend D1 Quad XL)?
I just had a family friend bring me one over from China today and obviously it didn't come with any of the Google applications. I was able to find the Gmail apk online along with the GoogleLoginService and the GoogleServicesFramework apk. Everything installed fine, but I am still unable to sync contacts over from Gmail, and occasionally I will get an error saying that GoogleServicesFramework has crashed.
Any insight pointing me to the right direction is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
- Simon
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I wrote up how I did this over at Modaco because they have a forum for this phone and XDA does not
http://www.modaco.com/topic/357994-how-to-root-and-install-google-apps-on-the-ascend-d1-quad/
I hope XDA makes a forum for this phone because it is a great device and I think is going to be very popular at least in Asia
brunes said:
I wrote up how I did this over at Modaco because they have a forum for this phone and XDA does not
I hope XDA makes a forum for this phone because it is a great device and I think is going to be very popular at least in Asia
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Hey brunes, amazing work, I've also found a easier way to root it and flash on google applications with simple UI for newbies like me, I will update my original post to put that in, and put yours in too if you don't mind?
And for sure, I think as soon as this phone receives a global launch it will be pretty popular too, seeing how it's probably the only quadcore pentaband umts phone available on the market right now
Hi!
New firmware available here : http://www.huaweidev...uctId=3909&tb=0);
Include google apps!
HUAWEI Ascend D1 quad XL firmware(U9510E,Android 4.0,V100R001C00B121,General Version)
brunes said:
I hope XDA makes a forum for this phone because it is a great device and I think is going to be very popular at least in Asia
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+1
love this phone and its big ass battery.
My colleagues at work with one X and galaxy 3 want a big ass bettery as mine has.
I thought you guys would be interested in this
I've been using it for a couple of days and it has been very stable. If anyone else want to try it, I will post translate the instructions I got from the Chinese forums here.
simonfzhao said:
I thought you guys would be interested in this
I've been using it for a couple of days and it has been very stable. If anyone else want to try it, I will post translate the instructions I got from the Chinese forums here.
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Please post it
Will be picking an XL up later today, and am also interested in 4.1.2 as well.
Please post soon! TIA.
Notfast said:
Please post it
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12andy said:
Will be picking an XL up later today, and am also interested in 4.1.2 as well.
Please post soon! TIA.
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No problem, I'll do the translation and post it up by tonight
But just remember that it's still built on a beta rom release from EMUI so it may be unstable, even though I haven't experienced anything (ie. the phone auto restarting), I can't guarantee for you guys :S
Amazing phone for the price
I just got mine 2 hours ago. My friends are all HTC fanboy so they told me to stay away from Huawei but I was just thinking to try it out and then return it but I think i am gonna keep it and sell my GNex. It is quite an amazing pone for such a little price. although the phone might look bit thick but the thickest part of GNex is actually slightly thicker than the D1. I just wish there are more dev support.
I find the camera app that came with it really annoying since you cant turn the sound off... also if it had 2Gb of ram this would be the perfect phone for me!
Anyways anyone else have any news on update to 4.1.2? Or is there other site/ forum with more support?
simonfzhao said:
No problem, I'll do the translation and post it up by tonight
But just remember that it's still built on a beta rom release from EMUI so it may be unstable, even though I haven't experienced anything (ie. the phone auto restarting), I can't guarantee for you guys :S
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Beta is fine. Flashed my previous Samsung Captivate numerous times (various Cyanogenmod releases), until settling at SlimBean. Android = always a work in progress.
Regarding the D1, anyone notice slight choppiness when scrolling through the app drawer and such? I'm using Holo Launcher (which I used on the Captivate).
I find that changing the power saving setting to High Performance seems to have mitigated this somewhat. I suspect it might be a small issue with how the stock governor is handling transitions in CPU speed.
nvana said:
I just got mine 2 hours ago. My friends are all HTC fanboy so they told me to stay away from Huawei but I was just thinking to try it out and then return it but I think i am gonna keep it and sell my GNex. It is quite an amazing pone for such a little price. although the phone might look bit thick but the thickest part of GNex is actually slightly thicker than the D1. I just wish there are more dev support.
I find the camera app that came with it really annoying since you cant turn the sound off... also if it had 2Gb of ram this would be the perfect phone for me!
Anyways anyone else have any news on update to 4.1.2? Or is there other site/ forum with more support?
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For sure about 2GB ram, and support is coming, supposedly Huawei will fully unlock the bootloader by late next week.
I get all my information from bbs dot anzhi dot com, it's a Chinese forum and that is where I found all of my information from. You'll probably have to wait a while longer for the office update to Jelly Bean from Huawei's EmotionUI, but I will be posting the guide on how to flash into their beta release later tonight.
12andy said:
Beta is fine. Flashed my previous Samsung Captivate numerous times (various Cyanogenmod releases), until settling at SlimBean. Android = always a work in progress.
Regarding the D1, anyone notice slight choppiness when scrolling through the app drawer and such? I'm using Holo Launcher (which I used on the Captivate).
I find that changing the power saving setting to High Performance seems to have mitigated this somewhat. I suspect it might be a small issue with how the stock governor is handling transitions in CPU speed.
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Haha that's true.
I noticed it when I just open the app drawer, I'm using Holo Launcher HD, and it'll be smooth out after opening it for a second or so. I haven't noticed this problem when I was using the ADW or stock Launcher though, so the probably poor ram management from Holo.
simonfzhao said:
I noticed it when I just open the app drawer, I'm using Holo Launcher HD, and it'll be smooth out after opening it for a second or so. I haven't noticed this problem when I was using the ADW or stock Launcher though, so the probably poor ram management from Holo.
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Testing Apex Launcher (my go-to launcher before) now. Seems smoother!
I Tested with NOVA launcher PRIME and I say the transition is pretty fast but not smooth. (tested it on performance mode) But i gotta say the 3D unlock screen works perfectly smooth. Do you guys think it might be the problem with 4.0.4 ICS and not the device? My GNex runs on 4.1.2 + some performance tweak and it looks fine.
12andy said:
Testing Apex Launcher (my go-to launcher before) now. Seems smoother!
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I had a feeling that it was because of the HOLO launcher too bad because HOLO launcher gives the most "Stock" feeling
nvana said:
I Tested with NOVA launcher PRIME and I say the transition is pretty fast but not smooth. (tested it on performance mode) But i gotta say the 3D unlock screen works perfectly smooth. Do you guys think it might be the problem with 4.0.4 ICS and not the device? My GNex runs on 4.1.2 + some performance tweak and it looks fine.
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Double post, need to accumulate a couple more posts so I can start posting links, but I have started to draft the instructions
I'm not sure, because the 3D Home was laggy to me compared to the 2D Home, and I didn't try NOVA, so I couldn't comment, but isn't it similar to APEX and ADW? If it is, then it should be pretty snappy :S
Edit: Tutorial is up!
Indeed it is snappy but not as buttery smooth as 4.1 I feel.
Here is a good review androidauthority
Thanks for your tutorial!
Hey I'm just wondering if anyone got a case for this phone and can you please give a short review of it. I m looking for a case that replace the back cover but wraps around to the front. I had a case like that for my atrix 4G back. I just don't want to make it any chunkier. But if you think it feels fine then I might consider putting on a case. Thanks
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nvana said:
Indeed it is snappy but not as buttery smooth as 4.1 I feel.
Here is a good review androidauthority
Thanks for your tutorial!
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You're welcome! I definitely think that project butter had alot to do with the smoothness
nvana said:
Hey I'm just wondering if anyone got a case for this phone and can you please give a short review of it. I m looking for a case that replace the back cover but wraps around to the front. I had a case like that for my atrix 4G back. I just don't want to make it any chunkier. But if you think it feels fine then I might consider putting on a case. Thanks
Sent from my HUAWEI U9510E using xda app-developers app
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I'm using this case right now. I love the feeling of the back, it's really similar to the original backing of the phone's battery cover, and it's not too bulky. I'll get a couple of pictures of it tonight so you can get a sense how much wider it is compared to holding the phone without a case
Newbie Hiere
Hi Sir/s,
I recently bought a Huawei U9510e phone from China and i came upon your posts re the "rooting".
I already rooted my phone (thanks a lot to you!), but now my problem is how to install the google play.
I saw one update from Huawei but it is in ZIP file. Here are my questions:
1. How will i install the update to my phone? Do i need to download it from a PC first then install it in the phone or do i need to download in directly to the phone?
2. How to deal with those ZIP files and where to save them to make them work? For example, the attachment "huawei_usb.zip". I downloaded it but i didn't know whats next after that. How can i integrate it in my phone? Or if its a driver, how can i integrate it with my PC?
Kindly help by providing step by step procedures re my question since im still new at these things.
I apologize for the stupid questions but i don't really have any idea about those. Hope you can help me.
Thanks,
Androidneophyte

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