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Hi,
I've read on this board that database structures are different in WM5 & WM6. The question then is, how to backup pim data from WM5 and restore to WM6, after upgradation?
Thanks.
Hi,
Use pimbackup! or use sync to backup contacs, appointments, tasks!
Thanks eddyve.. so that means, pimbackup would restore pim data across wm5 & wm6?
J_Kirk said:
Thanks eddyve.. so that means, pimbackup would restore pim data across wm5 & wm6?
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yes......
I guess you don't have outlook to sync to? =)
Am i right in thinking that these 2 programs are essentially the same (with the exception that PIM backup is independently developed, and freeware, whereas Sprite Backup is commercial software + not free) ?
Can PIM backup do things that Sprite backup cannot?
Just wondering, as i got Spite Backup bundled with my Kaiser.
Thanks!
PIM Backup
PIM Backup, only backup for Contact, Calendar (appointment), To do, Task, Massages (SMS).
Spritebackup could do everything PIM Backup do, Plus all setting System (include register) and all software have been installed.
PIM backup allows PIM information to be transferred across different operating systems and different devices.
I can transfer my Agenda Fusion appointments from my HTC X7500/WM6 to my IPAQ 2755/WM2003 with no problem.
Using Sprite to do any of that will give completely unreliable (or no) results.
Both are good programs, Sprite backup is awsome though
Your phone's databases are .pim files hence the name PIM backup. As stated above it only backs up and restores these pim files. Sprite backup backs up everything as described above as well. The reason for my post is to correct nrm (post above this one). Sprite backup can restore to different devices. When you are restoring you have to specify what type of restore you want to run (level 1-3). Also you can manually specify what you want to restore. If you just want to restore your personal data (PIM databases) you can select just this. So Sprite can do exactly what pim can do but so much more. One down side to sprite is that the version I am running (v.6.5.4) is not compatible with WM6.5 or WM7. I havent bothered to even check if they have a new version out that is compatible. Sprite still works with these newer versions of Windows Mobile but M$ has changed the format of the above mentioned databases (files on root of device with .pim extension) and it will not back them up. So until there is a new compatible version of sprite backup you will need to use pim to backup your databases and you can still use sprite to backup everything else.
And what about Spb Backup?
I've tried them both. PIM Backup is great for the Contact/Calendar/Task/Message backup, and I have been able to backup and restore across WM5/WM6/WM6.5 ROMs. I've tried an older version of Sprite and it had some problem restoring the Contact/Calendar/etc. Perhaps this problem goes away for the newer version.
Sprite Backup is great for automatically backing up the entire device including files and settings. When I hard reset because I messed something up, Sprite makes it very easy to do a complete restore. When you are changing ROMs I take a more manual approach.
I backup the entire device using Sprite Backup to get all the files and settings on the device (just in case I forget anything). Using Total Commander, I zip up the following folders: Start Menu, Windows (just the files installed since the flash like Titanium CPR files and any file installed programs might save here), Program Files, Applicaton Data, My Documents, and Root folder. I also backup HKCU\Software and HKLM\Software registry entries. I copy those reg backup files to my computer and use a text editor to delete all entries that might cause a conflict (typically all HTC, Microsoft, IA Style, OEM folders).
Then when I need to change ROMs I have all the files and registries to get my device back on my feet very quickly. I don't have to reinstall all my software, nor go thru e-mails to find registration keys, or re-do each programs' settings. Most of their settings are stored in the registry, so its a very easy upgrade.
I haven't tried a recent version of Sprite. They may have improved the upgrading feature between ROMs and have better support for WM6.5 so my need to manually backup and edit registry entries might be already done automatically by Sprite.
Cassatta said:
And what about Spb Backup?
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SPB Backup is better than Sprite... but PIM Backup is essential so you can backup your PIM from to time to time easily.
TheRem said:
SPB Backup is better than Sprite... but PIM Backup is essential so you can backup your PIM from to time to time easily.
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I agree but with spb you can also schedule backup's and choice only pim data.
yup but you can't separate the contacts, tasks and appointments in SPB Backup.
all r right but sometimes restoring from spb or sprite deletes new regestery values from new rom and we will not able to use of that rgu benefit.lots of time i got less ~4mb ram from usual coz of that complete restore and slight slower device.....
there's an option in SPB Backup (Customize Restore)... in System Data, you can uncheck Restore Registry.
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yup but you can't separate the contacts, tasks and appointments in SPB Backup.
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I agree, but is it usefull?
Ok folks, great input, but to tell you the truth, I would say you need both.
PIM Backup + your favorite backup program (I use SPB Backup) but have used Sprite as well.
Personally I will backup using SPB before I make a major change or test a Beta program just and sometimes (once a week if I have done any updates/installation of new software).
But, anytime I add any really important contacts/appts/tasks I will use PIM backup as well in case I decide to change my ROM (I usually just do a manual install of the cabs I want).
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all r right but sometimes restoring from spb or sprite deletes new regestery values from new rom and we will not able to use of that rgu benefit.lots of time i got less ~4mb ram from usual coz of that complete restore and slight slower device.....
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The last spb Backup version detects if you have a new rom installed and suggests a special restore for same device but different rom. It has worked very well for me when flashing new roms.
is it possible with one of these software to transfer sms from an older device to a new one without deleting sms stored on my new device..
I'm not sure I'm clear here
I have a tytn2 with thousand of messages that I want to keep
I have a tp2 with some messages that I want to merge with the old tytn2's messages.
don't want to erase everything accidentaly, please give me an advice
use PIM Backup to backup your sms on the tytn2 , then copy PIM Backup and the backup file to your tp2 , and restore the file on the tp2.
it will let you choose how to restore each item , overwrite existing info or just merge them~ keep an eye on it ,overwriting is by default
saurabh88 said:
all r right but sometimes restoring from spb or sprite deletes new regestery values from new rom and we will not able to use of that rgu benefit.lots of time i got less ~4mb ram from usual coz of that complete restore and slight slower device.....
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The advantage of SPB Backup is that you can choose to restore to a new ROM and so it does not overwrite the new system files and registries. I always use it after flashing a new ROM and it works very nicely.
I only recently discovered this myself, but pim backup can do quite a bit more than just backup pim.vol and cemail.vol. It also has a custom file backup, which is a wonderful feature and is very easy and intuitive to use. If you uncheck "binary", you can easily access the individual files (change backup extension from .pib to .zip). You can backup individual files or entire directories (like application data). It's well worth checking out. Just highlight "Custom" then click the 'Options' button to get going on it.
Reinstalling my apps (including re-entering license keys) and reconfiguring my 4 email accounts after every ROM upgrade is a bit of a PITA.
Spb Backup 2.0 says it has a ROM upgrade mode. Has anyone tried this? Does it avoid or minimize the hassle of reinstalling/reconfiguring after a ROM upgrade?
(I have no connection with Spb other than I have licenses for a few of its other software products)
I'vetried the new version of SpB BAckup, and the 'New Device' function, though not the ROM Update function.
The 'New Device' restore works well- I did a backup from my Ameo, and restored it to my Tinity; SpB correctly interrupted and asked if this was a new device, and suggested using the New Device process.
The process went well, and the Trinity came out of it with my previous Ameo programs all installed, and also the SMS messaeg store.
However, there is a problme SpB BAckup2 seems to have a problem backing up Email data with cooked WM6.1 ROMs. It seems to work OK with genuine HTC ROMs which is bizarre, but at the end of a backup of my Irun ROM Ameo (and also a colleague with a Touch Cruise with cooked WM6.1 ROM) it gives an error at the end of the process saying 'unable to read cemail.vol' which is the email folder. S, as this is not backed up, it obviously didn't restore to the Trinity
NeilM, thanks for the response.
With respect to email, my focus is on account configuration rather than the emails themselves since my accounts are either Exchange Server or IMAP.
How does SPB Backup handle the account configuration? Thanks.
With my cooked WM6.1 ROMs it doesn't handle any part of the email system.
The Email accounts are absent after a restore, calendar seems OK, but Contacts goes into a continuous loop of syncing/verifying/syncing again so looks like a lot of the Pocket Outlook sync is broken after restore.
SpB are adamant this is not a problem on all the official WM6.1 ROMs they have tried, and some users are verifying that, but I've yet to hear from any of my colleagues who have a genuine 6.1 device, and have used SpB BAckup 2.
Just for the record, SpB Backup 1.6 gives me the same errors.
I’ve being using Spb Backup 1.6.3 on all cooked rom from here and never encountered any of the issue. After upgraded to Spb Backup 2, thought that it will safe time when restoring to another rom but no luck. Even tried restoring back to same rom it stop dead at restoring registry. Well, back to 1.6.3 till they fix it.
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Well, back to 1.6.3 till they fix it.
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..if they fix it
My query about the email problems just prompted the response that it was working fine with WM6.1 so the problem is due to my cooked ROM.
Did you try Options and disabling the 'Stop Processes before backup' option? That seems to have worked for some people.
ROM upgrade mode is practically impossible afaik but not sure how SPB is going to work. It didnt work for me either. Actually the files in ROM are sometimes impossible to get copied ir backed up.
For example, I tried Ultra Lite ROM where ozVGA is there and then restored in Irus' Modded Taxist ROM which doesnt have ozVGA but RealVGA. Guess what? All icons vanished!
Regards,
Carty..
Yes done that too and still hath (gold cube stop revolving) during registry restoring.
If it only works for some people, I rather stick to the previous version.
Usually I don’t keep any mail in the device, therefore unable to give any feedback.
Have done a few hard reset and restore. This is what I did.
1. Select customize restore and restore only the reg without any others. This way, the reg will be able to restore fully into the device. Then perform a soft reset once complete.
2. Select customize restore and restore the rest less the reg. This way it will be able to complete the restore. Then perform a soft reset.
That's it. Is kinda stupid in a way as you need to restore it 2 times.
Bear in mind that this works with the AP4.
I just flash the rom to AP5, and it doesn't even work. It just hang in the backup screen. Sigh!!!
I have the Softbank Hermes X01HT. I have upgraded to WM 6 from WM5. After upgrade my contact wont appear when I press contact on the right bottow corner ( after I restore from SPB back up). The sim manager wont help also.
Could you all please let me know how solve this?
Thanks.
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dont restore using a full backup as you are just trying to replace wm6 files with wm5 files that spb backup has saved which is probably why you cannot restore the backup.
Unselect the system section of the backup. You will probably need to clear storage first then select only the pim data to restore and see if this works.
If that doesnt work then you should re flash your wm5 rom and then restore your backup with spb, this time using the full restore option. Then use this file to backup your pim data (contacts,appointments and messages,speed dials etc)
http://rapidshare.com/files/85563377/ppcpimbackup_v2.8.rar
you can then reflash your new rom and restore all your pim info, you will have to re install your applications though. But once you have installed everything you can create a new backup with spbbackup
do you know any way I could backup my phone so everytime I hard reset I won't have to reinstall everything from the beginning...just to restore my phone using my backup?
Hello,
I prefer PPCPimBackup (PIM Backup) because it is pretty simple & reliable (although I guess there have been issues with special characters in certain contacts or texts or something) but there are other utilities available that allow you to backup your settings/files, just search a little.
Bill
You could try any of the most popular backup softwares:
1) SPB Backup
2) Sprite Backup
3) Resco Backup
Thank you guys for your responses
I've tried SPB and I'm really satisfied!