I'm currently using xtrSense and I've had it on my phone for a long time now. I love it and it's been such an improvement over stock. But I'm interested in switching things up and trying something new just for a change. I'm liking the looks of the new ADW EX so I think I might try a froyo ROM and give the new launcher a shot.
1. Which froyo ROM should I use? Looking for speed and stability
2. I want to be able to completely backup my current ROM, apps and all, so that I can make a full transition back if needed. I understand I need to make a nandroid backup and backup my SD Card. But how do I backup my apps and settings and everything? I suppose I need Titanium Backup. Do I need Pro?
Am I missing anything?
Thanks!
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I'm currently using xtrSense and I've had it on my phone for a long time now. I love it and it's been such an improvement over stock. But I'm interested in switching things up and trying something new just for a change. I'm liking the looks of the new ADW EX so I think I might try a froyo ROM and give the new launcher a shot.
1. Which froyo ROM should I use? Looking for speed and stability
2. I want to be able to completely backup my current ROM, apps and all, so that I can make a full transition back if needed. I understand I need to make a nandroid backup and backup my SD Card. But how do I backup my apps and settings and everything? I suppose I need Titanium Backup. Do I need Pro?
Am I missing anything?
Thanks!
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when your in recovery mode theres an option for backup/restore, you want to click on it and choose nand backup, let it perform its task...once done you wipe data and dalvik cache... your now safe to flash your new rom, and if you realize you dont like it and wanna go back to your old setup, you just wipe data and dalvik cache then choose nand restore this will revert what you backed up previously...hope that helps...
jpzsports said:
I'm currently using xtrSense and I've had it on my phone for a long time now. I love it and it's been such an improvement over stock. But I'm interested in switching things up and trying something new just for a change. I'm liking the looks of the new ADW EX so I think I might try a froyo ROM and give the new launcher a shot.
1. Which froyo ROM should I use? Looking for speed and stability
2. I want to be able to completely backup my current ROM, apps and all, so that I can make a full transition back if needed. I understand I need to make a nandroid backup and backup my SD Card. But how do I backup my apps and settings and everything? I suppose I need Titanium Backup. Do I need Pro?
Am I missing anything?
Thanks!
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I use TB free and can backup and restore apps data and settings, but when you restore, to get it to really stick you may need to run the batch a second time choosing data only. Each Froyo ROM has its own pros, I prefer Froyolicious overall, cleanest fastest most stable in my opinion, but after a few days I miss my camera. As far as the Cyanogen set, I think CELB is the cleanest. I recommend just flashing the **** out of your phone, you'll be more comfortable and confident with the process, and you can choose your daily for yourself.
I've been liking the FroShedYo variant called Red Glass in the FroShedYo first post.
Thanks for the reply guys.
Quick Question:
One of the big things I like about xtrSense is the SMS Preview at the bottom of the lockscreen. Is that a Sense feature or do all ROMs have that?
jpzsports said:
Thanks for the reply guys.
Quick Question:
One of the big things I like about xtrSense is the SMS Preview at the bottom of the lockscreen. Is that a Sense feature or do all ROMs have that?
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seems to be a sense thing ive neveer had that on a cm rom....
I'd like to add that you can use WidgetLocker on the market (one of the few apps I've bought) and configure your lock screen exactly the way you like. You may need to use third-party apps to add text message previews to WidgetLocker, but I know they're out there. I also configure the unlock slider to have three options: unlock, camera, and video camera, so I have quick access to my camera app, but it takes up less room than the stock Sense unlock slider.
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Hey all, quick question for the community as I am a virgin (so to speak) when it comes to flashing custom ROM's to my Vibrant. I have yet to flash anything other than the camera from the captivate (I think that was it). On that note, I am looking at flashing over Eugene's Frankin-Twiz ROM than flashing JAC's XMOD OC/UV. My question is this:
When I flash the ROM, I know Eugene made it auto erase all the old stuff. My question is this, will I still retain any of the programs I had installed or will it be like a fresh install (such as when I pulled my Vibrant out of the box), I assume that will be the case, if so, do I just use Titanium Backup to restore it all like I had it?
The other question I had was whether or not when I back up my ROM, does it save any of those same settings (I.E.- Home screen layout, Programs installed, etc.) or is it only saving the "OS" so to speak?
Does the Kernel overwrite anything or is it just re-configure how the CPU is ran?
I really appreciate the info everyone that responds!
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Hey all, quick question for the community as I am a virgin (so to speak) when it comes to flashing custom ROM's to my Vibrant. I have yet to flash anything other than the camera from the captivate (I think that was it). On that note, I am looking at flashing over Eugene's Frankin-Twiz ROM than flashing JAC's XMOD OC/UV. My question is this:
When I flash the ROM, I know Eugene made it auto erase all the old stuff. My question is this, will I still retain any of the programs I had installed or will it be like a fresh install (such as when I pulled my Vibrant out of the box), I assume that will be the case, if so, do I just use Titanium Backup to restore it all like I had it?
The other question I had was whether or not when I back up my ROM, does it save any of those same settings (I.E.- Home screen layout, Programs installed, etc.) or is it only saving the "OS" so to speak?
Does the Kernel overwrite anything or is it just re-configure how the CPU is ran?
I really appreciate the info everyone that responds!
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First, you'll want to make a NANDroid backup. This backs up everything (think of it like a ghost image of your system). It's what is absolutely NEEDED in case something breaks or you just don't like the new ROM. When you restore it, it'll put everything back exactly as it was.
Second, If you have titanium backup backup all the apps/data, it should retain just about everything, including items on the home screens. I've only used it with ADW Launcher (not the TW Launcher), but the only thing that never shows up properly is widgets for whatever reason.
Alright, cool. I made a nandroid backup right when I got it rooted before I did anything else. So I will want to make a second nandroid of my system how it is now since I have made a lot of changes since than so I have something top fall back to?
However the new rom won't have any of my current setup until I restore it with titanium correct?
[I be posting this from my wicked awesome vibrant!]
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Alright, cool. I made a nandroid backup right when I got it rooted before I did anything else. So I will want to make a second nandroid of my system how it is now since I have made a lot of changes since than so I have something top fall back to?
However the new rom won't have any of my current setup until I restore it with titanium correct?
[I be posting this from my wicked awesome vibrant!]
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Depends on ROMs, but in Eugene's it's like it came fresh out the box except of the new features of the rom.
And yes. If you made a lot of changing do another backup, it doesn't hurt.
Awesome. Thanks for the responses. Looks like I'll be trying out out tonight.
I be posting this from my wicked awesome vibrant!
ok well I want to flash bionix because of bad battery life from ji6 installed through odin after ny phone being bricked by ota. Which bionix should I use? Fusion or final?
Ok next I have a couple of questions about flashing bionix.
1. Will I lose my data? (contacts apps media etc)
2. I have the circular battery mod and mobile ap installed do I need to remove either? (instructions on removal of mobile ap if I have to please)
Any other tips or suggestions? Thank you
The Bionix ROM selection is your personal choice - Fusion gets rid off most of the Samsung TouchWiz crap.
Borh ROM's wipe the data, but all your personal stuff like pictures, and everything stored on your /sdcard and /sdcard/sd stays intact. Contacts are either sync'd with your Google account, stored on the SIM card or stored on your phone.
If you store the contacts on the phone you might loose those, not sure about that.
Bionix ROM's come with precise battery indicators, and mobileap pre-installed no need to get rid of them.
If you want your apps and data restored use something like Titanium to make a backup of your user apps and data (do not backup system apps and data) and you can restore it once you flash the new ROM via Titanium.
Fusion = LauncherPro/Stock (better in my opinion)
Bionix = TouchWiz
You will not lose media, contacts, but you should backup your apps with titanium backup (dont worry about backing up system data), just do the apps + data.
You wll lose bookmarks, wifi passords... easy fix for that.
If you have not read the sticky (signature) and their webpage (from sombionix first post) then you should do that before moving on.
Thank you thats exactly the answer I was looking for.
I'm going with fusion since I'm already used to launcher pro. I've done a nandroid and backed up apps with titanium.
The only question I have left is: which kernel should I go with? Stock, kingxklicks, or JACs? I really don't know anything about kernels...
tonomon said:
Thank you thats exactly the answer I was looking for.
I'm going with fusion since I'm already used to launcher pro. I've done a nandroid and backed up apps with titanium.
The only question I have left is: which kernel should I go with? Stock, kingxklicks, or JACs? I really don't know anything about kernels...
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go with stock if you dont want to overclock
if you go with KK or JACS, you have to download setcpu and set the minimum clock speed at 200mhz otherwise you might have wake-lag issues when you try to turn screen on / unlock the phone.
do an advanced thread title search for "setcpu" and you will find the developer's thread on here and can download the app for free.
Thanks for your help.
I downloaded stock and I'm about to flash it.
What are the advantages of the other two kernels?
I would encourage the stock kernel. I use JACs and love it. Try stock though, makes it easier to revert. You can always just flash another rom in the future with an oc kernel, or just update the kernel later.
I'm using Fusion 1.1 with JACS and even though I don't OC I think I'm still getting the battery life benefits of that kernel's under-volting. My battery life has been excellent and I haven't had any issues. I've read that some Vibrants can't run well with the under-volting, so the stock kernel is definitely safer.
Alright thanks for your help.
Your tips and tricks thread also helped me a lot when I first got my vibrant
Awesome. Let me know if it can be improved.
Pretty simple question, i want to upgrade to the latest build by mik. Will this basically wipe everything that isnt on my SD card ? i.e. everything on my desktop, all my settings, all my apps etc.
thanks.
Yes, you will have to wipe everything...
If you want, you can backup your data with apps like "Titanium Backup" or something like those...
U will lost all ur settings,sms,contacts,apps..nd u will lost ur data in sd bcoz u hv to do partition for aps2sd..Its recommrnded to do backup of all ur apps,contacts,sms,nandroid before flashing
oh ok. so ill install apps2sd, move all my apps across, backup contacts and what i can with titanium , flash.
what is this google sync business with contacts ??
so i just flashed to the latest, and its booted back in, and everything is still on my desktop ? like nothing got erased.
i did a full batch titanium backup. did it automatically restore everthing ? even my desktop settings ?? im lost
thedawg said:
Pretty simple question, i want to upgrade to the latest build by mik. Will this basically wipe everything that isnt on my SD card ? i.e. everything on my desktop, all my settings, all my apps etc.
thanks.
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Haha so luckily you got me and my patience on your thread lol and you questions are simple yeah but not short to answer!
For your question, yes! flashing any rom will exactly wipe EVERYTHING on your phone.
BUT IF YOU ARE UPGRADING FROM OLDER VERSIONS OF MIK'S 2.3 ROM, it will NOT wipe anything except your google/facebook accounts information.
By the way, for the manual action of "wiping", it depends what android version you are at.
If you are using Froyo 2.2 NOW, yes wipe everything on the list of your custom recovery.
If you are using Gingerbread 2.3 NOW, then you dont have to wipe anything except [cache] and [dalvik cache]. <- You must wipe these two!
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oh ok. so ill install apps2sd, move all my apps across, backup contacts and what i can with titanium , flash.
what is this google sync business with contacts ??
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I dont get what you mean by "install apps2sd". But whatever you shouldn't do that before flashing a rom. If you mean the Non-froyo App2SD+ (What the hell is non-froyo a2sd?), you should flash it AFTER you have flashed the rom in order to let it activate in the new rom.
Yes. backup all the things with titanium is necessary.
For the google contacts syncing. It is a service provided by Google and it is for you to sync the contacts between your Gmail and your phone. So you can view all your contacts anywhere. You can sync your contacts to gmail and then after rom flashing, the contacts are gone. Simply login back to gmail with the newly flashed rom and then click auto-sync. All of your contacts will be back after a couple of minutes.
But remember one extra point, its sort of a new feature in gingerbread but BE SURE TO UNTICK THE OPTION OF "BACKUP MY DATA ETC TO MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT" after you login your gmail with android 2.3. Why? It actually doesn't backup your data (well for me, i couldnt see it anywhere) but DUPLICATES YOUR MESSAGES WITH NO REASON!
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so i just flashed to the latest, and its booted back in, and everything is still on my desktop ? like nothing got erased.
i did a full batch titanium backup. did it automatically restore everthing ? even my desktop settings ?? im lost
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IF YOU ARE UPGRADING FROM ANDROID 2.2 FROYO
NO. After you flash, every single thing will be GONE COMPLETELY. You will have to perform a titanium batch restore to get everything back in order.
IF YOU ARE UPGRADING FROM ANDROID 2.3 GINGERBREAD (older versions of mik's rom)
Then Yes everything is still on your "desktop" (I think you meant launcher) and ALL SETTINGS WILL REMAIN. However in some cases, home screen widgets will have problems and you will have to place them again. Information in widgets (such as your city for weather widgets, your to-do-list widgets) are NOT BE ABLE TO BACK UP USING TITANIUM OR ANY OTHER METHODS. So make sure you have written down what you have wrote in your widgets!
And finally if you have missed or made mistakes in any step, dont panic! You can always restore your phone back with KDZ UPDATER (Picture guide in this link)!
And when you are using mik's rom, and you would like to have a try on franco.Kernel which provides excellent performance, dont forget to discuss them in the thread The fantastic combination of mik_os' CM7 and franco.Kernel!!
Hope I was clear enough and if any parts of my post have helped you, dont forget to hit the thanks button at the bottom of my post
Good luck! Happy playing with mik's roms!
Thanks alot, makes it clearer.
I will definitely put francos kernel on, the phone still could do with some imporvement in performance.
next thing i need to learn about is the launcher. is it essentially just the UI ?
thedawg said:
Thanks alot, makes it clearer.
I will definitely put francos kernel on, the phone still could do with some imporvement in performance.
next thing i need to learn about is the launcher. is it essentially just the UI ?
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erm for the launcher its totally simple - ur phone can have multiple launchers, but you usually only use one. and they gives you the app drawer and some screens for you to place your shortcuts and widgets. how are they? what are their performances? differ on different launchers. they all can simple be found on the market, and after installation you will be able to choose the one you want to use, by clicking the home button.
ADW launcher and Launcher Pro being the most famous ones and you may try GO Launcher as some people are using and appreciating it too.
new users if i have given some help you know what to do and happy androiding.
Hello, I'm brand new to these forums, but I've been browsing them for the past week, and Im thinking about making the plunge to CM7. I've never done anything like this before, so could you guys answer a few of my questions, and maybe put my fears to rest?
First off, let me say that I read the Moto Atrix noob guide and updated thread.
This is my phone info:
System Version: 4.5.141.MB860.ATT.en.US
Android Version: 2.3.6
I have had this phone for over a year, and everything is completely stock.
Questions:
1. I have seen various threads about the latest firmware from Motorola causing an inability to change the OS. Is this true? And if not, do all the guides I've read regarding flashing, roms, backup, etc. still applicable?
2. I want to run CM7, but is it better to install CM7 directly from their website, or use some of the versions that I have seen members offering here. What are the main differences? What do you recommend?
3. Is CM7 as stable as stock?
4. Is it possible to flash different kernels to see what type of battery life difference they make, and can you do this without changing the OS?
5. I've seen multiple times of the importance of backing everything up. My only concerns are the contacts and sms. My contacts are stored on "Motorola Services." How can I back them up? As for sms, I use an app called SMS backup and restore. It creates an xml file I think, so when I go to restore my sms messages, everything should be as i was before, right? I'm worried about formatting issues here.
I just want to make sure I understand everything so I dont mess anything up. Thanks for your help!
yep. being a virgin and knowing it has to happen gives ya them butterflies in the tummy. Don't worry, you'll be fine, WE were all virgins at one time also. There will be somone here to assist you if you need it.
1.Follow the automatic bootloader thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
2. Read a little on the roms you are considering. The ones based on cm7 are basically the same. differences will be in themes, and extra/different features like diff apps and launchers & more or less customization options such as for settings. Have to choose which one appeals to you, and go with it. Beauty of this is if you want to try something else, only takes a matter of minutes and you can change to a differnt cm7 rom. In a lot of instances, once you are on cm7, flashing a different cm7 rom, you don't have to erase or lose your data, just wipe system and caches and load new flavor. Only takes a couple of minutes to flash a new rom, or kernal, or radio, and your data stays intact. Changing to a CM9 or a different base rom is when you will need to wipe the whole phone including data.
3. Yes, cm7 was the last revision when devs were still able to use OEM drivers, so they are stable.
4. Answered in #2
5. I don't recall which apps were good for saving your sms stuff on cm7. Seems like ages ago since I was using that! Might want to consider moving your Motorola based stuff over to Google. Contacts will be availabe there and will load automatically when you initiate your new rom. You don't need to do any formatting, but erasing will wipe areas, and will erase personal data if that option is chosen, so your concern is noted. Pay attention to what you are doing, don't wipe data from CWM when flashing if you intend on keeping your user data. You can wipe system and caches and not lose your data.
Yes back everthing up. Make a copy of your PDS folder and stash it away on your pc (do this before starting flashing), this has your phone id stuffs and a couple other valuables. Don't share that with anyone either. Make a nandroid b/u (an option in your new CWM) as soon as you can after installing CWM. You can reload that if things don't go good, and be back where you started. Install SuperuserSU (not the plain Superuser) from google play.
Just do it, you'll like it! become one of the elite!
If you ask me... You'll need a custom recovery to be able to flash CM7 anyway, so why not use it to make a proper full nandroid backup too?
I mean sure, you can try messing around with specialized apps to save and restore only the parts most critical to you (like contacts and texts), but if for any reason you'll want to completely go back, at least you'll know you can.
ravilov said:
If you ask me... You'll need a custom recovery to be able to flash CM7 anyway, so why not use it to make a proper full nandroid backup too?
I mean sure, you can try messing around with specialized apps to save and restore only the parts most critical to you (like contacts and texts), but if for any reason you'll want to completely go back, at least you'll know you can.
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Will this full backup allow me to then only restore the data I wanted to keep? Because I know I wouldnt want to restore the whole thing.
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Will this full backup allow me to then only restore the data I wanted to keep? Because I know I wouldnt want to restore the whole thing.
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CWM will allow you to restore individual partitions. So you can, say, restore just /data and leave others intact. It won't let you restore specific folders in /data though. Basically such a backup is most useful if you need to restore the entire phone to a specific state.
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Will this full backup allow me to then only restore the data I wanted to keep? Because I know I wouldnt want to restore the whole thing.
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Use titanium backup to restore individual apps and their data...
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CWM will allow you to restore individual partitions. So you can, say, restore just /data and leave others intact. It won't let you restore specific folders in /data though. Basically such a backup is most useful if you need to restore the entire phone to a specific state.
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what all is stored in the /data partition?
Also, is there some comparison of roms out there? I've been searching through the forum, and can't seem to find any. I see NottachAtrix4G alot. Is this based off of CM7? Also, does the fingerprint scanner work in cm7?
wvcaudill2 said:
what all is stored in the /data partition?
Also, is there some comparison of roms out there? I've been searching through the forum, and can't seem to find any. I see NottachAtrix4G alot. Is this based off of CM7? Also, does the fingerprint scanner work in cm7?
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The data partition is where your contacts, messages, settings and apps that you have installed go to.
I'm sure I saw some threads comparing ROMs, even though I recommend you try all the ROMs and see which one best fits your needs. Back when I had my old Milestone 2, everyone talked about the CM7 ROM, as it was the best to the device, but as soon as I tried the MIUI 2.3.7, never came back to CM7 (at least with M2, used it again with atrix)
Nottachtrix isn't based off CM7, it's a stock gingerbread ROM with modifications.
Yes, the fingerprint scanner works (at least on Neutrino CM7).
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The data partition is where your contacts, messages, settings and apps that you have installed go to.
I'm sure I saw some threads comparing ROMs, even though I recommend you try all the ROMs and see which one best fits your needs. Back when I had my old Milestone 2, everyone talked about the CM7 ROM, as it was the best to the device, but as soon as I tried the MIUI 2.3.7, never came back to CM7 (at least with M2, used it again with atrix)
Nottachtrix isn't based off CM7, it's a stock gingerbread ROM with modifications.
Yes, the fingerprint scanner works (at least on Neutrino CM7).
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Thanks for a good answer. I have yet another question though.
Some of the ROMS I have been looking at advertise that they are packaged with a certain kernel. Do all ROMS contain a kernel, or will I have to flash my own depending on which ROM I choose?
Again, sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I dont screw this up!
Every ROM is a complete system, so it must come with a kernel. In most cases after flashing a ROM you're ready to go. You'd only want to flash a different kernel if for some reason you're not happy with the one supplied with the ROM.
Hey guys, I am brand new to Android and I am trying to flash CleanROM 1.3, but I suppose this question applies towards any ROM.
If I make a complete backup on Titanium, Will this put my original settings and apps and their data back on the new ROM?
Also, to go a step further, will this put back on any bloat that was removed from these ROMS?
Is there a better way to go about this or is it pretty much when I flash a new ROM for this first time, I should just re-setup everything?
Thanks,
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Hey guys, I am brand new to Android and I am trying to flash CleanROM 1.3, but I suppose this question applies towards any ROM.
If I make a complete backup on Titanium, Will this put my original settings and apps and their data back on the new ROM?
Also, to go a step further, will this put back on any bloat that was removed from these ROMS?
Is there a better way to go about this or is it pretty much when I flash a new ROM for this first time, I should just re-setup everything?
Thanks,
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Just backup your app data on apps you need. Everything else just redownload. That's what I do.
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