So I downloaded the free version of system panel just to get an idea of whats running on my phone, since the default task manager isn't too accurate.
after a restart i have a bunch of random things. for example, calendar storage (dont use the calendar at all), maps (i havent opened it yet), media hub (never use this), Messaging (i use handscent).
i remember how i used to have an app killer to end these things but from what i've learned most people believe app killers waste more battery than they save? and that at this point android is good on ending processes on it's own?
how come these random things are running?
basically i wanna save battery life. i use SuperPower but it's kinda annoying tbh. data disable when screen off = gotta keep my screen on for market to update apps, fb chat to keep running/stay online, etc.
any suggestions?
darkness122 said:
So I downloaded the free version of system panel just to get an idea of whats running on my phone, since the default task manager isn't too accurate.
after a restart i have a bunch of random things. for example, calendar storage (dont use the calendar at all), maps (i havent opened it yet), media hub (never use this), Messaging (i use handscent).
i remember how i used to have an app killer to end these things but from what i've learned most people believe app killers waste more battery than they save? and that at this point android is good on ending processes on it's own?
how come these random things are running?
basically i wanna save battery life. i use SuperPower but it's kinda annoying tbh. data disable when screen off = gotta keep my screen on for market to update apps, fb chat to keep running/stay online, etc.
any suggestions?
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Don't use Super Power, I've come to realize that was a much larger hassle than the benefits it made. If you have Titanium Backup Pro freeze all apps you never use, like Media Hub and other Samsung apps. And things like Calander Storage don't worry about, I'm sure it's nothing that's draining your battery.
And also, task killers DO drain more battery than they save, assuming you're on a froyo 2.2 based rom. And if you want turn off Auto Sync in settings and this will save some battery. Otherwise, your battery life should be pretty solid.
bobbbb said:
Don't use Super Power, I've come to realize that was a much larger hassle than the benefits it made. If you have Titanium Backup Pro freeze all apps you never use, like Media Hub and other Samsung apps. And things like Calander Storage don't worry about, I'm sure it's nothing that's draining your battery.
And also, task killers DO drain more battery than they save, assuming you're on a froyo 2.2 based rom. And if you want turn off Auto Sync in settings and this will save some battery. Otherwise, your battery life should be pretty solid.
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thanks man, i got rid of superpower and will see how much it truely effected my battery life.
as for titanium backup, i don't have pro but i guess i will buy it if there aren't any free alternatives to freeze apps?
thanks man
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Hi
I'm currently having problem with apps they are auto opening themselves.
Sometimes at startup when I open my open and use Helix/ADW all launcher manu apps are open automatically. It eats like 50MB of memory and battery.
And even while my screen turns off it opens app. I was sleeping and my screen is turn off/sleep and I check task panel it got apps open even the screen is lock.
Got No Idea on this. Why my apps are auto opening.
And do I need to debrand?
I just got a unit Unlocked
X10i
Baseband 1.0.14
Build Number R1FA014
Kernel 2.6.29-rel [email protected]#2
Do I really need to debrand?
Does it reset my phone and my settings/apps will be deleted?
TIA
It's not the X10, it's an Android thing.
Then how to get rid of this auto opening app? I never exp. this on 1.5 and 2.1 on my HTC Hero just on this 1.6
Get Automatic Task Killer or something similar, and set it to kill apps on open...if you find the apps opening affects your performance.
Also, if they're apps that sync with a service, make sure all syncing is off, or they'll keep coming up anyway, to try to sync with the cloud.
as a personal anecdote, once I stopped using task killers, the phone started running more stable and quicker.
So Task killers are not good?
I check my Task Panel once i boot my phone tons of APPS are open
Like Bluetooth file transfer
SMS Backup and Restore
Email
Alarm Clock
Calender
Settings Voice Dialer
It opens on startup.
seriously I just boot up my phone and use ADW Launcher and those open up automatically? what does those do? for startup? there are tons more like 25 apps on startup. This thing is not good since I'll do task killing always even the phone is screen off. My phone is opening Voice Dialer Handsent SMS even though i dont have message or calls received.
It's like every min or hour I'll do task killing it kills battery
Well, Alarm Clock has to be on, so it knows when to go off... If you don't have any alarms set, delete all the alarms that are in it.
Email is on by default, since it's a smart phone. If you don't have an account set up, email won't sync, and thus, isn't really doing anything. Calendar will attempt to sync with google if you set it up, but if not, again, shouldn't be doing anything. SMS will start to monitor for incoming SMSes. A lot of services start so they're there when you try to start them up. Basically, anything that has to sync to the internet to update will start automatically.
If things like Photoshop Mobile or a game or something start up, those should be killed.
Stand alone apps that don't access the internet should have no business starting up on their own.
Some people on here claim task killers are great and help a lot... some claim they do nothing. I'm torn, because the phone feels a bit faster than when I used the task killer everytime I unlocked the phone. If your phone is new, cycle the battery a few times, and let it 'break in' and, eventually, the battery life should improve.
Thanks. I'm just a little bit worried that I'm not aware that there are many task opening with me noticing or knowing it and use much battery as I do.
Some apps open automatically
I know that apps auto close ok , here's its invers..
Any how use some task killers frequently to kill them....
Or just unistall them
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Can somebody help me? I am running my xperia x8 and as i know since i rooted and got myself new rom i was wondering why my games work slow but after a little research i found out that official Facebook app is working in background so i unninstaled but now my question is is there someone who has some facebook app non-official which i can run without the problems?
PS: Sorry if spam on this thread but i cant make new threads on this app (or i can but i cannot figure it out)
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Thanks. I'm just a little bit worried that I'm not aware that there are many task opening with me noticing or knowing it and use much battery as I do.
Some apps open automatically
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Android works by loading EVERYTHING it can into memory, up to a threshold and then removes apps from memory if they're not being used and memory is required for newly initiated applications.
Some apps have a terminate and stay resident approach and are seen as 'services' and they just stay active no matter what. Email, Calendars and status bar and etc never leave memory cause they're all waiting for there big moment, an email, an appointment, a finger touch etc.
Using a task killer doesn't really do anything, cause as soon as you 'kill' the process and the moment there is available memory again the process will just return to active/inactive memory because that's the way Android memory processing works.
If you have root access you can delete/freeze system apps you don't require.
A 'slim' Android v2.3 ROM shouldn't have more than approx 110 system apps. Less that 95 if you're good.
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I check my Task Panel once i boot my phone tons of APPS are open
Like Bluetooth file transfer
SMS Backup and Restore
Email
Alarm Clock
Calender
Settings Voice Dialer
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Most of the apps you listed are system apps and will, by their nature find there way into memory all the time. That's just how it is.
After a few hours of use many of the non-used apps will drop out of memory and others will take their place.
Loading applications into memory has a time and processing cost and so if it's already in memory, it's quicker to access.
However the Android system doesn't know your usage traits at start-up and that's why some less used system applications may be seem in memory until they're weeded out by those you do use. Again, nothing to worry about,
Using an XPERIA X10i with ~384MB of memory leaves little room for bloatware and thus a lean running machine is the order of the day for the XPERIA X10i.
At boot, once I close everything, I keep 80mb of ram free. (besides what I need.)
I have auto task killer set to aggressive, every 30 minutes. Phone is generally fast, however sometimes everything just gets restarted at once. Phone crawls until autotask killer does its magic again. These are default GAPPS and the like. I love maps, gmail, and the like, but I'm damn near ready to delete them.
Is there anything I can do?
(overclocked to 710, any higher and the phone gets slow as soon as it gets warm, anything lower doesn't help at all)
Maybe I'm missing something. I come from a blackberry, before that a windows phone. Task killing was important, I've read that it isn't so here. But I just don't know what to do to keep my phone from going into a crawl.
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At boot, once I close everything, I keep 80mb of ram free. (besides what I need.)
I have auto task killer set to aggressive, every 30 minutes. Phone is generally fast, however sometimes everything just gets restarted at once. Phone crawls until autotask killer does its magic again. These are default GAPPS and the like. I love maps, gmail, and the like, but I'm damn near ready to delete them.
Is there anything I can do?
(overclocked to 710, any higher and the phone gets slow as soon as it gets warm, anything lower doesn't help at all)
Maybe I'm missing something. I come from a blackberry, before that a windows phone. Task killing was important, I've read that it isn't so here. But I just don't know what to do to keep my phone from going into a crawl.
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They really aren't so important here, and most ROM's already come overclocked with task killers and/or governors.
What ROM are you using?
Do you have alot of widgets on your homescreen?
The only time I've had your problem is when I had like a total of 5 homescreens COMPLETELY filled with widgets.
viogrep said:
At boot, once I close everything, I keep 80mb of ram free. (besides what I need.)
I have auto task killer set to aggressive, every 30 minutes. Phone is generally fast, however sometimes everything just gets restarted at once. Phone crawls until autotask killer does its magic again. These are default GAPPS and the like. I love maps, gmail, and the like, but I'm damn near ready to delete them.
Is there anything I can do?
(overclocked to 710, any higher and the phone gets slow as soon as it gets warm, anything lower doesn't help at all)
Maybe I'm missing something. I come from a blackberry, before that a windows phone. Task killing was important, I've read that it isn't so here. But I just don't know what to do to keep my phone from going into a crawl.
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Personally, I used to use the task killers a lot, and while on 2.1 I think it helped a little. But as I switched around different froyo ROMs and am now on gingerbread, I noticed that the task killers actually hindered my phone's performance. Battery would discharge quickly, the phone would become sluggish and sometimes lag so bad I would reboot.
I found that just leaving the android system to do its own thing worked out the best. Memory management has been greatly improved, and really eliminated the need for task killing apps and the like.
Always good reading:
"FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android"
"Multitasking the Android Way"
"Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn’t Use Them"
Using Gingerbread, clocked at 604mhz. CPU governor ondemand. (Bump it to 748mhz and interactive for heavy games)
No killers, although I used to be religious about autokiller memory optimizer. GB handles memory and app killing very well.
And the stock app management tool loads quick and is easy to use to kill something that's acting naughty or hung.
I use cache cleaner, set to clean once a day.
I am picky about my apps. If I don't like their startup and shutdown behavior, I find an alternative program.
I'm also rather anti social so no twit, face, up ur butt, whatcha doing apps constantly syncing for me.
I do use genie for news and weather and smooth calendar synced with my exchange via gmail. But these don't update but one every 3-4 hours. Gmail on demand unless I'm expecting something, then I'll let the sync run.
Used to be an adw fanboy. But switched to LP. Its simple and light. Adw is still my favorite especially EX, but LP performs better for me.
I also uninstall everything I don't use, email, dpm, stock music, HTML viewer, setup wizard, keyboard tutorial, development, rom manager, carhome, couple other none dependencies. Use that free space to more some of my root apps, widget apps, utilities.
Also use. Zach's cache2cache. Freeing up a little more data room. No apps on SD.
Widgets I use; note everything 3+ Widgets, genie news and weather, smooth calendar, a photo slide widget app. Usually about it. Sometimes a full month calendar.
No lag or performance loss. My daily usage averages 4 to 6 hours a day.
Edit - also turn off orientation if I don't need it to keep my screen from redrawing every time I pick upmy phone or adjust my wrist
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I do as little as possible.
I kill some tasks when my phone first starts up, that's the only time I use my task killer unless a program is glitching out.
I keep setcpu profiles.
I keep my apps up to date.
I keep my ROM up to date.
After installing/ uninstalling a lot of programs (Such as when I first flash a new rom) I always make sure I Wipe my dalvik cache.
I always wipe between ROMs. It's more stable and always faster.
I suggest to keep your phone fast you DONT:
use setcpu's widget.
use autotaskkiller (it's just one more process. And once you kill tasks, there's no reason to continuously re-kill persistent ones)
Clear your cache too often. Your cache is there for a reason. I personally never clear mine, just my dalvik.
Dedication
amfetamine said:
Using Gingerbread, clocked at 604mhz. CPU governor ondemand. (Bump it to 748mhz and interactive for heavy games)
No killers, although I used to be religious about autokiller memory optimizer. GB handles memory and app killing very well.
And the stock app management tool loads quick and is easy to use to kill something that's acting naughty or hung.
I use cache cleaner, set to clean once a day.
I am picky about my apps. If I don't like their startup and shutdown behavior, I find an alternative program.
I'm also rather anti social so no twit, face, up ur butt, whatcha doing apps constantly syncing for me.
I do use genie for news and weather and smooth calendar synced with my exchange via gmail. But these don't update but one every 3-4 hours. Gmail on demand unless I'm expecting something, then I'll let the sync run.
Used to be an adw fanboy. But switched to LP. Its simple and light. Adw is still my favorite especially EX, but LP performs better for me.
I also uninstall everything I don't use, email, dpm, stock music, HTML viewer, setup wizard, keyboard tutorial, development, rom manager, carhome, couple other none dependencies. Use that free space to more some of my root apps, widget apps, utilities.
Also use. Zach's cache2cache. Freeing up a little more data room. No apps on SD.
Widgets I use; note everything 3+ Widgets, genie news and weather, smooth calendar, a photo slide widget app. Usually about it. Sometimes a full month calendar.
No lag or performance loss. My daily usage averages 4 to 6 hours a day.
Edit - also turn off orientation if I don't need it to keep my screen from redrawing every time I pick upmy phone or adjust my wrist
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THAT is a lot of work and you do this EVERY day? WOW that is dedication!
Kent_Davis said:
THAT is a lot of work and you do this EVERY day? WOW that is dedication!
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Errrrrrrrrrr?
Just an update. I used the majority of advice here. Installed watchdog. After about 4 days worth of running and watchdogs help I just Uninstalled Google Reader and Facebook. Never have to kill a task and everything runs smooth now.
Thanks!
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THAT is a lot of work and you do this EVERY day? WOW that is dedication!
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Hee-hee... I live on my Eris
Naw, pretty much just the new rom setup routine. But I do seem to spend more time in settings menus than in actual apps
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Contrary to what most people will tell you, I use a Task Killer and some will call me a liar but I see a very good improvement on my battery life. As soon as I'm done doing whatever I was doing on my phone, I open Advanced Task Killer and kill every task running then lock my phone (press the end button) and tuck it away. People say it doesn't work but everyone's Eris is different and reacts different to different apps. I love having it and I love using it. I usually go in to cyanogenmod settings and use the overclocker, 748Max, 122Min, Ondemand gov, set to boot. I also use LauncherPro Plus which seems to be faster and smoother than ADW therefore using less power. I also have absolutely no widgets whatsoever. Wifi is only on when I'm home and GPS is never on unless I'm using navigation. That's really about it and my Eris runs smooth as a baby's backside !!
Like do I need virus scanning apps or stuff?
I was thinking of getting the following:
PDroid - Blocking apps from accessing various data from my phone.
Titanium Backup PRO (£4.49) - Automate my backups.
FolderSync (£1.49) - To keep my backups and files synced to Box.com.
Where's My Droid? - To find my android if I loose it or destroy it so no one can see my personal data!
Tasker (£3.99) - Automate tasks (like on/off wifi and on/off gps for maps really), I like how massive a functionality it has!
So a total of £10 and it should hopefully cover my backups and keep my data safe. My main worry was is it worth getting any anti-virus/malware software?
Also do any of those 4 apps use up too much battery juice? And would there be a less battery leeching alternative?
Just want some advice if I should use differents apps or whatnot. Thanks!
So
PDroid is the best for private data. But only Android version 2.2 and 2.3.
Titanium Backup is good, maybe Rom Toolbox Pro as an alternative.
FolderSync is not the best choice but ok. The newest box.net app is better and has 50gb storage.
I dont use where is my android. My favorite is andoirdlost.
Tasker is your best choice. Ram is about 9mb... even better is brain.apk
hey guys a new nice friendly android antivirus is Avast for Android fully free dependable autoupdatable search from market downlod and instal it then restart your phone.
I like lookout personally. Doesnt take up much space. Check it out.
I have been flashing and modding for four years and have modded over 20 different types of android phones and have never used a antivirus app. I read and learned early on that there arent any virsus or such on android to date. They are just bbattery hogs and pointless, the only thing to be careful of is watching permission on app esp. If you are side loading them.
My suggestions for battery is to use a battery calibrater on the market first then use better battery to see whats eating up the power and use either easy battery saver or juice defender extreme they both automate your phone to smartly use wifi and mobiledata such as turning them off when the screen is off and such. Thank if i helped anything else let me know
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a clear mind while you're downloading is a really good bet, permissions are you're best bet
Hi,
I've recently installed CM10 and for the most part have been happy with the battery performance, however, if I don't remember to switch to airplane mode overnight, the battery drops by almost half by the time I get into work again.
I've noticed that Android OS, System Standby and Maps are all using a lot of battery, which is weird because I haven't used maps, nor have I (to the best of my knowledge) used any apps that would require my location (other than the camera, to take two photos)
http://i.imgur.com/5sWn58I.png
Greenify also backs this up, with maps waking up my device a ridiculous number of times, and Facebook Messenger (which I'm now tempted to uninstall) along with BBC Weather which I have no idea why it's running so frequently that I'm also tempted to uninstall.
http://i.imgur.com/uZQ45Gh.png
Any suggestions on how to optimise things a little here please? I hate the idea of things running in the background and it's something I'm really struggling with since moving from iOS.
Thanks
blizeH said:
Hi,
I've recently installed CM10 and for the most part have been happy with the battery performance, however, if I don't remember to switch to airplane mode overnight, the battery drops by almost half by the time I get into work again.
I've noticed that Android OS, System Standby and Maps are all using a lot of battery, which is weird because I haven't used maps, nor have I (to the best of my knowledge) used any apps that would require my location (other than the camera, to take two photos)
http://i.imgur.com/5sWn58I.png
Greenify also backs this up, with maps waking up my device a ridiculous number of times, and Facebook Messenger (which I'm now tempted to uninstall) along with BBC Weather which I have no idea why it's running so frequently that I'm also tempted to uninstall.
http://i.imgur.com/uZQ45Gh.png
Any suggestions on how to optimise things a little here please? I hate the idea of things running in the background and it's something I'm really struggling with since moving from iOS.
Thanks
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with es task manager you can enable and disable start up apps or running apps. this helped me from time to time. good luck
Use Greenify and Autostarts
Thanks both! Will get ES Task Manager now and mess with the startup apps... Autostarts looks fantastic, but since ES is free it edges it for me
blizeH said:
Thanks both! Will get ES Task Manager now and mess with the startup apps... Autostarts looks fantastic, but since ES is free it edges it for me
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Free does not mean best but try it .
jje
The last week or so since I got my HTC One Max, I have been slowly configuring it and setting it up to my tastes. On my previous phone, an HTC Rezound, I used an app called Clean Master to manage the phones ram, and Battery Doctor to extend its battery life. I tried an application called Battery Guru on my Max, but it actually drained the battery faster while the phone was not doing anything. After uninstalling it, my battery life seems to have shot upwards. I have not re-installed Battery Doctor. I have read the following things about these battery saver apps over the last few days:
1. Some say the applications are not needed and you should not use them, especially if they include a task manager. The logic was that Android was designed to have multiple apps in memory all the time, and closing them, then opening them again from scratch, uses up the battery.
2.Others have said just the opposite. They claim the applications greatly increase battery life. If you read the reviews on the Android Market about these two applications, that seems to be the case.
Both of these applications I have used get rave reviews from the many folks that have used them. Is the benefit they are seeing just imagined? Do the applications actually work? Is it also possible that they work for some and not others, since there are a lot of models of Android devices out there?
Most things that are ram "cleaners" are just giving you a slight point in time speed boost. Your ram will fill up again (as it should). Most so called battery doctors cripple your phone to extend battery life (think extreme power saver on the Max). What you want is something that blocks the applications that you do have running from performing activities in the background that you dont need at that moment ( think facebook looking for your location even when not using it just so it will know it faster when you open the app).
I use a combo of firewall to block most apps from using the internet (radio takes a lot of battery) and greenify which hibernates the app while keeping it in ram so it brings me into the app where I was before.
mikekoz said:
The last week or so since I got my HTC One Max, I have been slowly configuring it and setting it up to my tastes. On my previous phone, an HTC Rezound, I used an app called Clean Master to manage the phones ram, and Battery Doctor to extend its battery life. I tried an application called Battery Guru on my Max, but it actually drained the battery faster while the phone was not doing anything. After uninstalling it, my battery life seems to have shot upwards. I have not re-installed Battery Doctor. I have read the following things about these battery saver apps over the last few days:
1. Some say the applications are not needed and you should not use them, especially if they include a task manager. The logic was that Android was designed to have multiple apps in memory all the time, and closing them, then opening them again from scratch, uses up the battery.
2.Others have said just the opposite. They claim the applications greatly increase battery life. If you read the reviews on the Android Market about these two applications, that seems to be the case.
Both of these applications I have used get rave reviews from the many folks that have used them. Is the benefit they are seeing just imagined? Do the applications actually work? Is it also possible that they work for some and not others, since there are a lot of models of Android devices out there?
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Try greenify
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Free ram is idle ram. Having a lot of ram usage isnt a bad thing... Don't know how many people think the opposite. Now if it gets too high then yea its an issue when opening new apps but this issue died with gingerbread in all reality. Some would argue task managers even died with froyo.
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Thanks everybody! I have installed Greenify, and removed Battery Doctor and Clean Sweep, and my phone is running great! I like it so much, I have put Greenify on my other Android tablets. No more battery saving apps or task managers for me!!
The trick is to properly manage the apps that you use.
The problem with task killers is that some apps that you kill will simply "respawn" themselves automatically in the background. Killing apps that do this just means your phone is constantly closing/opening the app again and again which is worse than not killing it in the first place. You will just have to experiment and check which apps respawn after killing them and avoid having the task killer auto-kill those apps, or uninstall those apps.
You also have battery saver apps that try to manage turning certain features on/off like WiFi, GPS and Blutooth. The most efficient way of managing this is to manually disable those features when you don't need them. Having an app do this for you means that app now has to be running all the time to manage those other features, which itself will ironically increase battery usage.
Avoiding as many apps as possible that need to constantly run in the background to perform it's function. These mostly include instant messenger apps or other apps that regularly check the internet for updates in the background. Either avoid them or if possible increase the delay between how often the app checks for updates/info. The Greenify app will allow you to "suspend/pause/freeze" specific apps when they are not currently on your screen. This keeps them from performing any activity in the background, and will help save battery if used on apps that would normally be doing tasks in the background. The downside is that if that app is suppose to be doing something while in the background, it won't be doing that anymore...like checking for updates, chat messages etc...
Keep screen brightness on automatic, so you don't waste power on a bright screen when in a darker environment.
These should be more than enough tips to help you better manage your battery.