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The stock charger from Samsung was for 0.7Amps and it charges ok, but I find it slow.. about ~4 hours to fully change my SGS2 from with less than 10% left of battery life.
If I plug into the laptop, it takes like ~6 hours due to the slow trickle charge with 0.5Amps.
I don't know what the max pull is allowed on this phone, but I did find that when I charge with a 1Amps charger, I can get it from less than 10% to full in about ~3hours.
So, I tried a few such charges and have noticed some strangeness.. (all with the same test conditions, start charging with less than 10% and with the stock usb cable for the phone)
1) older Belink ac-usb 1Amps out put, it does seem to charge the phone good and faster finishing around ~3 hours ... but, when charging, the touch sensitivity of the screen is out of whack, any subtle movement, will cause the screen to jump around.. like in gallery, trying to select an individual pic is difficult as the screen jumps around; forget about using the browser and selecting links...not sure why..
2) HTC thunderbolt charger 1Amps output (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003WM6SOU).. same issue here, charges faster, but makes the screen jump around
3) iPhone charger 1Amps output; this seems to work the best for me so far.. charges faster ~3hours and while charging the screen behaves normally, I am able to use gallery and browser fine...
4) iPad 2 charger 5.1 V and 2.1Amps: Still charges the phone ~3 hours, but same side effect...
Anyone else have the screen sensitivity issue and what chargers are you using?
I haven't seen any issue when I used a HP TouchPad Charger rated at 2.0A I think..
Max pull is 650 mA - this is set by the charger chip itself.
If the phone thinks you have a normal USB connection to PC instead of a dumb charger, it will be 400 mA.
Having a charger rated more than this won't hurt, but it won't help.
Monoprice "1A" car chargers are rated 300-400 mA at best - the ONLY monoprice product I've ever been unhappy with in my life.
In general, you want to make sure USB D+ and D- are shorted together by the charger - this guarantees that the phone sees the charger as "dumb" and goes to 650. Exception are media and car docks - whatever you connect to these will be assumed by the phone to be a high current "dumb charger".
All phone power usage (CPU, screen, etc.) counts against this current budget - e.g. if you have 200 mA of load, only 450 will be going into the battery.
Unlike the I9100, we don't appear to have any way to change these charging currents. Our phone, for whatever reason, has an additional chip for charge control (MAX8922) instead of using the charge control built into the main power management chip (MAX8997). This is disappointing, I was really hoping to bring over the "charginghacks" modifications from my Infuse kernel series.
Has anyone noticed that phone does not charge while using GPS. The charging indicator is on but when I look at the stats it says discharging at -450 mAh. Is this the way it is and if so, is there a fix? 1 hr 42 m with 73% display on battery use and 43% charge remaining, but was plugged in the entire time while driving under an hour home. I am using the same Motorola high performance charger that every other phone is charged fully even when using GPS.
are you absolutely sure the charger is giving the full 1A?
What sensor app are you using to see the battery discharging?
Mine charges normally with gps on.
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I was curious so I tested this with "Battery Monitor" I have it plugged into my laptop currently which only gives +500mA. and not the +1A that you get from a wall/car/high power usb port.
the app is showing +257mA with GPS on and functioning normally.
So charging good here... Might be something with your motorola charger? It could have a sensor in it to detect 'trickle charging mode' that is improperly engaging when connected to the HTC causing the charger to put out a minimal 'sustain only' level of amperage.
good luck!
you need a charger putting out 1A ... most car chargers put out 500mA so find a good one off monoprice
Here's what I'm doing. I have a Belkin 2.1A(2100mAh) USB car charger dongle. The problem is, once i connect the USB cable to it the phone registers it as "Charging USB" and does notcharge anywhere near as fast(power-wise) as if the phone was registering it "Charging AC". I'm not keen on using a power inverter to get the full AC charge so instead i am going to go pick up a cheap micro USB cable, splice it open, then disconnect the data wires(green & white ones) & then tape it back up. By disconnecting the data wires, the phone will no longer think it's a USB connection and then charge via AC, getting the best charge possible.
that should work ^ if thats the problem
I've found that using the included USB cable with a Belkin dual port USB car charger allows the phone to charge as if it were plugged in to a wall. I'm guessing the included cable has a different layout than standard Micro USB cables.
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I've found that using the included USB cable with a Belkin dual port USB car charger allows the phone to charge as if it were plugged in to a wall. I'm guessing the included cable has a different layout than standard Micro USB cables.
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I'm guessing that I have the same belkin dual port (2.1amp and 1amp ports) and the best I've seen out of it is about 250mah charging. This is using the supplied usb/micro hdmi whatever cord for the phone.
I have seen discharge rates off the charger of 750mah which is the highest I've seen on any phone. I'm guessing if you are using the nav on your phone with the screen on, it will probably still be using battery while plugged in.
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I was curious so I tested this with "Battery Monitor" I have it plugged into my laptop currently which only gives +500mA. and not the +1A that you get from a wall/car/high power usb port.
the app is showing +257mA with GPS on and functioning normally.
So charging good here... Might be something with your motorola charger? It could have a sensor in it to detect 'trickle charging mode' that is improperly engaging when connected to the HTC causing the charger to put out a minimal 'sustain only' level of amperage.
good luck!
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Possible, but says AC charging in Battery Monitor widget. I will post a few pics.
Here are a few Pics. you can see a couple of things.
-Charger rated at 950 MA out. and no other phone I have owned lost a charge while driving including TBolt, Charge, Bionic.
-Shows as AC charging
- Spikes of good charging detected
Put on Normal power mode today on the way in. live wallpapers did not wrok, just flickered. 3G on vice 4G. Battery still went down, but above 90% on 40 minute drive in. Screen low but on. Bluetooth speaker.
Maybe it is the iBolt car mount. See review online. will try without dock this afternoon on my way home.
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Try playing pandora when the phone is 100 charged. After 45 minutes on the car mount (and yes it is plugged into a charger and all indicatros show it is charging) and the charge level is 84. Using the same charger but plugged into the phone, playing Pandora for 45 min starting charge level 68. Ending charge level is 100.
Yeah, something is telling that charger to not give you full juice
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ok, drove home off the window mount and just on charger, all same except full brightness on screen.40 minute drive. came up 7% battery vice down from 100 to 43%. nedd a few trials to confirm, but looks like window mount is throttleing juice.
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are you absolutely sure the charger is giving the full 1A?
What sensor app are you using to see the battery discharging?
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i have seen spurts up to 913 with GPS off and screen just turned on. Using battery monitor widget. Not on window mount, just charger.
I can confirm. The car dock will not charge your phone atleast not with the screen on and nothing else running but battery monitor widget.
I bought one and tested it extensively yesterday. I used a Verizon 1a charger and a generic 1a charger. With the dock and both chargerz the phone DIScharged(as in LOST battery power) at between 100ma and 200ma. Without the dock using the same chargers and changing nothing on the phone the phone charged at between 50a and 300ma.
I did the test several times to eliminate any random things the phone may have been doing in the background.
After doing that controlled test I played with it some more and no matter what I did I could not get a positive charge with the dock attached even in airplane mode with the screen backlight at minimum. Without the dock using the same chargers i ran Pandora and a police scanner both outputting through the phone speaker, gps, wifi, mobile all on, and screen on auto and still had a very small positive charge.
Moral of the story DO NOT BUY THIS DOCK unless you dont mind it just being a piece of plastic that holds your phone in place.
I wonder if there's a quick mod to it to get it working right. Like the soldering of the USB chargers I've seen.
Rezound
I just went ahead and bought an extra battery so I wouldn't have to charge in the car. Only takes 20 seconds to pop in a new battery.
Can charge both batts while I sleep at night.
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I was looking for a high current charger for my Android tablet and there was a review that talked about compatibility. Some of the high cap chargers appear to be designed for Apple products and the pin wiring is subtly different. So, on some non-Apple products, the charge is only recognized as a lower power, 500mah charger and the users reported that some devices would normally charge and others would not. Some of the dual port charges also split the power. The 2.1 amp port and the 1 amp port cannot be used at the same time, depending on what is plugged into them. This was also brand specific. I ordered the Amazon Basics 2.1 amp dual charger and will see how that works. I have noticed a difference in charge rates between my Motorola charger left over from the Blackberry and the Verizon OEM one. The VZW one is faster.
I do the same thing I have been doing since my Windows phone days.
I use the AC cord plugged into a 12v to AC adaptor(screen set to 100% bright and no timeout).
I drove 6 hours last week ruuning Google Maps/GPS & my battery was 100% charged when I got to my destination.
~John
my SGSII takes about 3 hours to fully charge. in japan, we had charging stations, where youd place a battery in a machine, and itd charge it from 10% - 70% in about 8 minutes,. and to 90% in about 15. this was because the machines used a higher current.
ive noticed the stock usb charger that comes with the S2 is a lower voltage of those compared to HTC, or say one youd buy at radio shack. yet even with a higher voltage charger, the phone still charges at the same rate. this is because the kernel controls input levels. the input levels are set to slowly take in a current, there are many reason youd want to have a slower charge.
one is to reduce salt bridge deterioration, which is ware on the battery. while this may be an issue for some who plan on keeping their phone battery for years, without upgrading their phone, or battery, for most of us a year of ware wont make a difference.
a second issue is heat, a faster charging battery generally charges warmer than a slower charging battery. however the phone will still not get as hot as a phone sitting in the sun, or playing a high graphics intensive game.
i would like to adjust the kernel to allow higher frequencies, how much of a higher frequency? well that would require bench testing. but a higher frequency indeed
has anyone played with these settings in the kernel, or done any benchtesting on the matter? id be very interested to hear your findings.
It's not possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468834
This has been asked more times than I've been able to keep count on here over the past month :-/ Answer doesn't change (unless you want to blow **** up).
so then the only way is to use an external battery charger?
because i know for a fact, an external battery charger can charge a battery very fast, ive experienced this first hand
on that link you posted, it said that the sgs2 charging limit is 650mA, but the USB charge is set lower.. has anyone raised the USB charge to 650mA? this would at least help my phone charge faster in the car, or while plugged into my laptop
soraxd said:
so then the only way is to use an external battery charger?
because i know for a fact, an external battery charger can charge a battery very fast, ive experienced this first hand
on that link you posted, it said that the sgs2 charging limit is 650mA, but the USB charge is set lower.. has anyone raised the USB charge to 650mA? this would at least help my phone charge faster in the car, or while plugged into my laptop
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The USB charge is not set to low, the current given by that of a computer USB port is less than 650mA (500mA if i remember correctly) and also depending on the car charger the output (might) be less than 650mA. I use the same computer USB cable with an external USB charger and i notice 2 things:
1- Since the phone pulls the required current from where ever the USB is plugged in, if it has capability of providing 650mA the phone will take 650mA. And with the external USB Charger (iSound Portable Charger) i can charge the phone in 3 hours.
2- Secondly while plugged in the iSound it shows charging "AC plugged in" this is because it can provide 650mA (which is the same as the wall outlet adapter)
Actually from what I know, and correct me if I'm wrong, even using the charger that comes with the sgs2 isn't the healthiest choice for your battery because the voltage is high to cut down on charging time. The best should be by connecting to your pc
I think it is the amps of the charger what makes a difference in charging speed
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Actually from what I know, and correct me if I'm wrong, even using the charger that comes with the sgs2 isn't the healthiest choice for your battery because the voltage is high to cut down on charging time. The best should be by connecting to your pc
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Anyhow see if the phone is plugged in to the device that can provide as much current from 0.1A to 2.2A (from simple devices to Iphone <- they require 2.2A) the phone automatically draws the amount of current it is made to draw which is SGS2 is 650mA which is coincidentally the same as the wall outlet adapter.
I might be wrong, so correct me if i am.
I as thinking of lower the 650Ma AC rate to 450Ma or less, to allow the phone to slowly charge up overnight, with the aim of finding a rate that acheives a 5-6 hour charge time from empty.
Any thoughts? I was just thinking it should cause less heat and perhaps extend is life accordingly?
I'm on vacation and if i didn't have two battery's i would be lost. For some reason while running navigation i still lose battery even while plugged into charger. Any reasonable input is well appreciated.. Thanks guys..
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Is your screen brightness all the way up? That's a battery hog.
Also what kind of charger is it plugged into? If it's a cheap off brand it might not be enough power.
Is any thing else running?
I use Google nav all the time and it barely charges when plugged in. But it does charge.
It's really an issue of how much juice your charger is pushing out vs. the power needed for your screen, apps, and GPS. I have a USB connection in my car that I use and it definitely losses power while charging under said conditions. I'm able to counter this by simply turning off the screen whenever possible (like when you don't have to make a turn for several miles).
In order for our phone to charge while using Navy (whether Google or any other 3rd party Navy app), your car charger needs to put out MINIMUM 1amp. MINIMUM. Download current widget from the app store. It will tell you how much your charger is putting out.
(The units in the widget is off by 1000. Ie if the output is 900, then it is 0.9A.). A value ranging above 500 or 0.5A should be what you are getting on a regular charger. Close to 0.9-1A. This value will fluctuate a little as the batter reaches full charge and while the phone trickle charges.
USB and cheapie car chargers usually give you no more than 500 or 0.5A. Running NAV or watching video while plugged into this connection. Will not charge the battery. Usage exceeds the charge current.
Even using GPS on a 1A charger will not give you full charge speed. I would recommend a 2A charger if you want to be able to charge while using the NAV.
I am using a Samsung 2A USB car charger myself. Since the charger is capable of delivering 2A, while the NAV is running, the charger is capable of providing full charge.
There is a circuit in the phone that prevents excess current. (Well from what I have read, and my usage so far. Current widget has never shown anything over 1A-1.2A).
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Donno if its the regular case of 'bad usb port'. It's happening only when I'm charging with specific car charger (1A, output 5V) sometimes its charging fine, sometimes I notice its stop charge and the icon of battery is blinking/flashing...
I've tried to clean the usb cable and port from dust, maybe the cable got some dust into it?
Also I've notice that the temperature of device goes down to 22°C when its happening...
At any other chargers (include othe car chargers and other wall chargers) there is no problem at all...
What could be the reason of this specific car charger (it used to work without any problem the last few months ago)?
High/Low voltage? Dust?
maybe other problem with my device? (Battery/something else)
BTW - when I plug the charger out when its happening its stop blinking.
could you please give us a screenshot?
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From reading your post, it only happens with that one charger....any other charger works as expected?
That being the case.....it ain't your phone or the USB port/board in the phone.....
Chargers DO fail, and from my experience, dc to dc step down transformers and circuitry (the type in your car charger) have a higher failure rate than their ac to dc (mains) equivalents. ....
Time to buy a new car charger methinks
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@wishmas7er - which screenshot mate? when its happens all I see is blinking/flashing battery icon, without any other message or something else about it.
@keithross39 - correctly mate, all other charger (any kind of them) works just fine.
Yeah seems like its the car charger problem, just first time i've notice it...
Thanks!
BTW - the reason of 'bad touch' while charging with some generic chargers is because higher amperage then should be to this device's battery? or other reason?
As long as the amperage is not ludicrously high or low, the only noticeable difference would be the charge time.....other than that there should be no noticable effect....
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Battery Icon Flashing with Samsung Galaxy S4 Car Charger
I had the same problem charging my Galaxy S4 in the car. AC charging works fine but when plugged into the DC car charger the battery indicator icon flashed rather than showing the lightning bolt.
I purchased a higher voltage DC charger adapter, same symptom.
Finally I swapped out the USB-to-micro cable and now it works fine. I suspect that in the car the phone gets jarred over time and it wears down the micro-USB connector.
It's not just you fella........
The micro USB socket idea is (imo) a pathetically fragile arrangement for what the manufacturers intend it to do. I've repaired two phones with worn out sockets, and judging by what I am reading on XDA, it is an issue that is getting more and more common.........
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So I'm experiencing the same blinking problem with my note 4. Each time the lightning icon blinks the phone vibrates in sync with it. And ithe galena with all charges. I have to keep unplugging and replugging ...and OCCASIONALLY it charges. I don't know what's the problem
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So I'm experiencing the same blinking problem with my note 4. Each time the lightning icon blinks the phone vibrates in sync with it. And ithe galena with all charges. I have to keep unplugging and replugging ...and OCCASIONALLY it charges. I don't know what's the problem
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I have same problem with my nexus 4.
After some googling I came across an app called Ampere.
This app tells you how much rate of current your battery is charging at.
So what i found is that when phone gets old the battery doesnt hold up charge as before. So the charge rate becomes slow. The nexus charger is rated at 1Amp and at the time of charging is able to provide low current than the rate at which the battery is draining. So the Android gets confused between charging and discharging.
For eg: if phone is charging at 300mA and draining at 350mA.
Also the battery draining rate is constantly changing. So when its greater than charging rate phone shows discharging and if less : charging...
Fix: There are three fixes which i can think ...
1) Get a higher Amp rated charger...
2) while charging close most of apps , dont play games , switch to a lower gen network like 2g , close wifi , close data which will reduce the discharge rate of the battery.
3) Get a new battery.
So I'm experiencing the almost the same blinking problem with my note 4. Each time the lightning icon blinks the phone vibrates in sync with it. It won't come on it won't reboot I've tried everything BUT replace the battery because if I plug it up it'll vibrate and blink but nothing else works. It's completely black when it's unplugged.