Few question
What is the difference between flashing from zip / restoring a nand backup / using kdz.
I have gone through all the posts and have taken a Nand backup after flashing the custom recovery. However this part am still confused about.
I know I need to use the kdz if I need to change the firmware ( 10b to 10c) and also there are cases of people bricking their device by using the kdz updater.
I know that I can upgrade to a different ROM by flashing the zip provided as part of the custom ROMs, however can I do a Nand restore of my original backup ? Would it matter if the version is different eg 10b of my backup and probably a 10e of the custom ROM ?
If the Nand backup restore / zip is much more stable then why are people still using the kdz to change the version.
Any answers would be really appreciated.
I have a question too: How do you restore nandroid backup from ADB ?
smart2smart said:
Few question
What is the difference between flashing from zip / restoring a nand backup / using kdz.
I have gone through all the posts and have taken a Nand backup after flashing the custom recovery. However this part am still confused about.
I know I need to use the kdz if I need to change the firmware ( 10b to 10c) and also there are cases of people bricking their device by using the kdz updater.
I know that I can upgrade to a different ROM by flashing the zip provided as part of the custom ROMs, however can I do a Nand restore of my original backup ? Would it matter if the version is different eg 10b of my backup and probably a 10e of the custom ROM ?
If the Nand backup restore / zip is much more stable then why are people still using the kdz to change the version.
Any answers would be really appreciated.
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Flashing from ZIP is done in custom recovery, usually done for a fresh install of new ROMs.
Restoring a nand backup...I'm not sure if this is "nand" back up...but in custom recovery menu, you can create a backup image of your current phone/rom. I guess it's kind of like a restore point where u can go back to if **** hits the fan.
KDZ Updater, I believe is a tool where you can flash/install "official" roms. At least from what I know of LG Optimus One, official ROM packages are in .kdz package. Where as for example, for HTC, official ROM packages are know as "RUU" installers.
I think if you stick to your carrier's official KDZ ROM packages, there are minimal chance of bricking your phone. I was lucky to install one of Australian KDZ on my Telus Optimus One and got away with it.
You can do a (nand) restore of your original back up. To do this, root your phone, flash the Custom Recovery (follow one of the stickied posts in this thread), and create a backup. When you restore, your ROM version will be whatever the backup ROM version is. So if you backed up v10b, and you update to v10e, and then you restore your back up, you'll revert to v10b.
As I mentioned above, I think KDZ are for flashing official ROMs. It's the tool that LG uses I believe, so probably that's why all their official ROMs are in KDZ. People are using KDZ to downgrade/switch ROM versions because some of ROM versions, such as v10e, can't be rooted using conventional tools.
So which is the command for nandroid restore in ADB ? Thank you.
Nand restore/backup is not ADB tool. You have to boot into recovery mode (if you have custom recovery, just turn off phone, press volume down+home and keep preset power on button. Hold volume spek+home till custom recovery menu didn't appeare.)
Warning: If you will not have installed custom recovery properly, you will do only hard reset!!
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nanddroid backup (i think can be restored using nandwrite linux utility try sudo apt-get install mtd-utils) ..NAndroid is more Like(HArd Drive Cloning) whereas FLashINg USING KDZ is like upgrading Your PC's BIOS system...U know what i mean ??? U screw up FlASHING phone is dead until fixed by the manufacturer..HOwever for same model i cud use my friends nandroid backup on my phone..Its like CLONING a OS
If using NANDroid restore from ADB you should navigate to the folder of your backup and run "nandroid-mobile.sh restore". The rest is explained above.
And by the way, sarfaraz1989, the only way to brick your Optimus One is to delete all the "/" directory, as even if you mess up the kernel, you can enter "Emergency Mode" and restore from a KDZ file. Second - NANDroid creates a binary image of the "system", "data", "boot", "cache", and optionally ".android-secure" directories. Third - flashing ROM updates is not the same as flashing a KDZ file - KDZ is LG's restoration archive containing the original ROM, recovery, kernel, etc... and most ROM updates contain updates to one or several system directories.
@Ianis DOesn't FLASHING rewrite the EEPROM chip on the phone??? Doesn't it repartition the ROm into boot,system,cache etc...??? And does't cloning (Dd) create "binary images" What imeant by FLASHING was using the KDZ file only... u missunderstood the post or mayb i didnt put it correctly
it's weird... i'm successfully backup (indeed four kind of nand back up available @ recovery) my source for backup was void#echo + latest fixed multitouch kernel, it just work beautiful before.
Some issue that require flash back to origin 2.2 rom using KDZ, then root + install recovery but any kind of restore still return LG LOGO and hang. (all 4 kind of backup same result)... already clear /davik-cache + /cache even try to clear /data and /ext as well but still the LG logo.
P/S: i'm using Recovery version 1.2. and my card already partition as 0 for swap + 512MB for ext4 that working beautiful @ void rom before.
Any solution? I can redo all the step by step for reaching the same VOID rom but without restore fully function like that... it waste lot of time for "boring HOME WORK"
Many Thanks and Best Regards
I think you have to flash the raw rom again.
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So I probably should of asked this before flashing but anyways, I flashed CWM to my tablet and I am about to flash aokp to it but I was wondering if I was going to go to back to complete stock again does it matter what stock 3.2 recovery I use to get official updates? I did make a nandroid backup so I am not to worried about getting a stock OS but its just the stock recovery that bothers me.
For the record I have a Canadian WIFI 16 gig tablet.
Official updates...? Odin is the only official update you need! :] Just so you know, you can't completely revert to stock unless it's for that specific firmware, only way to do that is by a clean flash to avoid all the un-necessary bricks and such.
Nandroid backup does not exist on stock and last I checked the recovery and CWM do the same job of "Applying update.zip" so it shouldn't matter, it's the firmware's regional value that matters, not the recovery.
So if I were to do a restore of my nandroid backup (from CWM) then that means that I would be able to get the notice that I would be able to update to the latest official firmware from Samsung no problem?
As long as you don't use Cus ROM's then yes.
I attempted to flash a rom I have downloaded from rom manager and after the recovery had backed everything up it just failed to flash and said the file was (bad)...
So I thought I would be ok and just started up again, once I got into the rom I realised that all my apps have gone and all my system data. I went to download Rom Manager from the Market but obviously my account with google was not signed in so I tried to do that.
NO KEYBOARD!
So now whenever I tap on a text box the keyboard does not appear.
I went back to recovery to try and restore my backup and it says MD5 Mismatch?
I thought I would play it safe and take off all my Titanium Backup file onto my PC so I have everything safe, but its only 10mb?! I backed everything up and there was a few MASSIVE games that took me ages to download, where have my proper backups gone?
I have a really bad feeling that my SD card is corrupted or something nothing seems to be working.
Am I going to try and use fastboot to put a decent rom on there or get the backup to work?
Any help would be a god send!
You got the right idea. Use fastboot to flash a ROM and go from there.
For sure fast boot and i would make sure and do a full fastboot wipe also might be a goos odea to test out sd caed on computer transfer filws to and from it and see of files obtain any issues or data loss
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I spent a while this weekend flashing my Atrix. I don't know what version you were on but this is a relatively safe (but do it at your own risk) method to recover an Atrix to latest Stock.
If you want to go straight to a custom ROM...You can do this:
Download a ROM to your SD card (I tried Turls and Joker's...using Turls right now)
Reboot into your CWM and format your data, system and cache partitions then install from zip from your internal/external card
I like to reboot back into recovery, clear the battery stats and then reboot into the rom
If you want to go to stock...This process worked for me since I have a problem with Nandroid not restoring my /system file so I gave up on trying to use CWM for backup/restore functionality and use Titanium Backup for that. CWM still works great for other functionality....As a side effect of a failed /system restore with CWM I have a non-booting phone...
SO....my recovery for this has been:
Use the Motorola Automatic Update using a PC...It will download the 141 stock SBF and flash your phone, at this point you're basically latest stock (I flashed this over unlocked bootloader)
Unlock your bootloader using the AUTOMATIC_UNLOCK_V4.2
Re-root your phone using the /preinstall method
Restore (if you have a backup) with Titanium Backup
Then download and install a custom rom at a later time
Thanks guys but it was a ****ty SD card! Peace.
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I spent a while this weekend flashing my Atrix. I don't know what version you were on but this is a relatively safe (but do it at your own risk) method to recover an Atrix to latest Stock.
If you want to go straight to a custom ROM...You can do this:
Download a ROM to your SD card (I tried Turls and Joker's...using Turls right now)
Reboot into your CWM and format your data, system and cache partitions then install from zip from your internal/external card
I like to reboot back into recovery, clear the battery stats and then reboot into the rom
If you want to go to stock...This process worked for me since I have a problem with Nandroid not restoring my /system file so I gave up on trying to use CWM for backup/restore functionality and use Titanium Backup for that. CWM still works great for other functionality....As a side effect of a failed /system restore with CWM I have a non-booting phone...
SO....my recovery for this has been:
Use the Motorola Automatic Update using a PC...It will download the 141 stock SBF and flash your phone, at this point you're basically latest stock (I flashed this over unlocked bootloader)
Unlock your bootloader using the AUTOMATIC_UNLOCK_V4.2
Re-root your phone using the /preinstall method
Restore (if you have a backup) with Titanium Backup
Then download and install a custom rom at a later time
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Hey thanks for putting so much effort into this mate.. its still really helpful info. I didn't realise you could still get stock rom from moto with unlocked boot loader. Thanks for the help!
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1. How to install nandroid backup?
2. Can i install it in my phone xperia min st15i rooted ics .587 (locked BL)?
3. where can i download the latest official/working nandroid backup for my xperia min st15i?
4. If Im installing custom ROM's and failed, and having boot loop problems.. Can i use nandroid backup to restore where I saved? that means from all files settings? will be back to what state you saved?
5. And If I successfuly installed and boot new ROM, then after many restart/reboot or after tomorrow, can I still use nandroid backup to restore to its previes ROM/OS? without having any problem? Is that how nandroid backup work?
Please answer THANKS!
1.)Nandroid backup is Total Disk Image(think dd command) of the partitions of a phone .This may or may not include ,/system,/data,/cache,/sd-ext,android-secure,kernel and recovery depending on the recovery and phone ...
2-3.)Nandroid Backup is created by the user and should not be shared amongst each other for security and privacy reasons ...So basically they are hard to find and probably it's not a good idea to flash one to your phone...
4-5.)Basically you create the Nandroid backup of your phone from the recovery ...Then you can install a custom ROM ...If you have a problem then you can restore the original backup
So there is no "install" as such of a nandroid backup ....It's Backup from your phone via recovery and restore to your phone via recovery ....
A point to ponder is that the recovery for the Locked BL lies in /system ...If the Custom ROM doesnt flash the recovery to /system properly then in case of a boot loop ,you have to go for Downgrade-Upgrade Root-Recovery-Backup cycle ...
This is relevant to you...
Fastboot, Custom ROMS & ClockworkMod Recovery:
A custom ROM is a fully standalone version of the OS, including the kernel (which makes everything run), apps, services, etc - everything you need to operate the device, except it's customized by someone in some way.
So what does the "customized" part mean? Since Android is open source, developers are free to take stock ROMs, modify them, strip them of garbage, optimize them, add things, and pretty much do whatever their imagination and skills allow.
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- Custom ROMS for Android Explained And Why You Want Them
In the Development Section you will find a variety of Custom ROMs, some require you to have an an Un-Locked Bootloader and some don't, it's usually stated in the thread title if it's required or not but modding your Phone with an unlocked Bootloader is much simpler. Most ROMs usually come in .zip format which require ClockworkMod (CWM) to install them.
You can find a great Guide HERE that will show you how to use Fastboot which is the method used for installing Kernels required by certain Custom ROMS.
Got a Mac? - [GUIDE] Set up ADB and Fastboot on a Mac easily (With Screenshots!)
ClockworkMod – also known as Clockwork and CWM – is a custom recovery for Android phones and tablets that allows you to perform several advanced recovery, restoration, installation and maintenance operations on your Android device
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- What Is ClockworkMod Recovery And How To Use It On Android
To use CWM on an XPERIA then it's recommended to unlock your Bootloader because then you can simply flash Custom Kernels that come with CWM pre-installed, it's also safer imo because it's separate from the system, but if you haven't unlocked your Bootloader for whatever reason then you're going to have to use [APP]/[RECOVERY]x-Parts [CWM Installer] [Version 7.0] 29/6/12 which is installed to the Phone's system, although it's less effective should you accidentally wipe your system while trying to flash a new ROM as you won't be able to access it.
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My phone is 100% stock aside from the unlocked bootloader.
I want to create a complete backup of my phone before I perform any mods.
I am aware of how to boot into TWRP without flashing the recovery image to my phone by running "fastboot boot TWRP*.img" from my computer .
My questions is, which options must I select in TWRP to ensure that EVERYTHING is backed up so that if I want to revert to 100% stock again at some point in the future (for OTA's or any other reason), I can simply fastboot TWRP and restore my backup.
You can't back it up. I already tried it before trying a custom rom. When I was done I found that none of my stock backups would restore and boot successfully. Unfortunately, twrp backups really suck and you can't call them a "nandroid" because it isn't copying the nand at the lowest level, it does it file by file which totally screws up when you back up in many cases. I wish someone would build a recovery that did actual images of the flash but for some reason that hasn't happened.
I foolishly forgot to do a nandroid backup before wiping and attempting to flash a custom ROM, and it ended up turning out that I needed to update to UBOOT version 2.10.0000, and I was still on 2.09.0000.
I haven't seen anything about how to reflash the phone except through RUU, which only works when the OS is still present and boots.
Perhaps there's some kind of OTA update I can flash from Fastboot/UBOOT that will restore the missing data in /system, but I haven't had any luck finding something like that yet.
AFAIK I'm pretty much dead in the water unless someone has some kind of Nandroid backup, flashable .zip file, or system.img file that I can use to restore my device.
Thanks,
Alec
Alec M said:
I foolishly forgot to do a nandroid backup before wiping and attempting to flash a custom ROM, and it ended up turning out that I needed to update to UBOOT version 2.10.0000, and I was still on 2.09.0000.
I haven't seen anything about how to reflash the phone except through RUU, which only works when the OS is still present and boots.
Perhaps there's some kind of OTA update I can flash from Fastboot/UBOOT that will restore the missing data in /system, but I haven't had any luck finding something like that yet.
AFAIK I'm pretty much dead in the water unless someone has some kind of Nandroid backup, flashable .zip file, or system.img file that I can use to restore my device.
Thanks,
Alec
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you need to go itno bootloader , relock the bootloader and run RUUfrom this webiste https://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html.