App2SD: Duplicate SD Card - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I am running Cyanogen 6.1 with APP2SD running, and have an 8GB SD Card with apps installed on it. I recently bought a new 16GB SD Card and was wondering how I duplicate the contents of my 8GB SD Card to the 16GB SD Card.
Any ideas would be VERY helpful.

I never tried, but I think it should be enough if you copy contents from the old one to the new one using a computer.
Sent from my HTC Hero

Unless you are using the native Froyo Apps-to-SD and not the old solution, then you can't just copy the files on a computer. Using the old system the apps are stored on a completely separated partition to what is shown when you mount your SD Card.
You can probably access that partition if you are using Linux, but having never used the old Apps2SD I can't check it myself.

I thought that might be the case. Linux laptop here I come!!

I recently bought a 16GB card and my Hero started to lag and restart SENSE randomly
Please reply to know if you have this issue

Hi,
I haven't put the 16GB in yet, as I have Apps installed to my 8GB SD Card and didn't know what to do (good job I have a linux based laptop really).
Sadly (not for me, but you know what I mean...) my ROM doesn't have SENSE. I am running CyanogenMOD 6.1.0.
What ROM are you running, I may know what the issue is?

takuhii said:
Hi,
I haven't put the 16GB in yet, as I have Apps installed to my 8GB SD Card and didn't know what to do (good job I have a linux based laptop really).
Sadly (not for me, but you know what I mean...) my ROM doesn't have SENSE. I am running CyanogenMOD 6.1.0.
What ROM are you running, I may know what the issue is?
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I am running the villainrom12 with sense and i have overclocked it to 352/652

I'm such a dumbass... what "class" is the SD Card? And which elements of the ROM are laggy?
I noticed that this is a 2.1 ROM...

takuhii said:
I'm such a dumbass... what "class" is the SD Card? And which elements of the ROM are laggy?
I noticed that this is a 2.1 ROM...
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I have a class4 memory card, and when i am launching some apps htc sense just force closes and the app i wanted to open just quits, after it is happened several times, htc senses starts to force close again and again until phone starts to lag and then hangs up.

From what I understand, VillainROM12 is a SENSE 2.1 ROM. I can't understand why this would lag, other than the implementation of SENSE isn't the patched version with the LAG fix. Early versions of SENSE were terrible and HTC had to release a patch to fix the lag issues.
The force close issue could either be down to the app timing out or something isn't installed properly. I can't really tell without installing VillainROM on my phone (I have CyanogenMOD 6.1 which, in my opinion, is flawless). My ROM isn't sense orientated, it uses apps like Launcher Pro plus (I think it comes with ADW.Launcher by default) instead of sense. ADW does have a theme pack to make it look like HTCs SENSE app.
I would suggest a couple of things;
Check available RAM
Back up your SD Card and reformat it as follows;
EXT2 = 512MB (You can use more, but you shouldn't need to)
(DO NOT use EXT3 or EXT4, these partition types are kernel dependent, and will lower the life of your card, they are intended for large partitions of like 50GB upwards)
SWAP = 0MB
FAT = The rest
I use AmonRA Recovery 1.7.0.1 which has a very useful partition SD card feature, better than ClockworkMods anyway (Evertime I partitioned a card in ClockworkMOD the phone refused to boot). Unfortunately if you have any apps installed to the SD card you may lose them unless you move them back to the phone (If you go Settings > Applications then click on "On SD Card" this will give you a list of "moved" apps).
Again, if you HAVEN'T got any apps on the SD card this could be the problem, as you are using ALL your phones RAM to store apps in, so like a PC running low on memory, no RAM means poor performance.
Try checking available resources before re-partitioning your SD Card. If you can't see what memory is available to you, try an app ion the market place called App 2 SD Free by Sam Lu, it's free, and gives you a readout of exactly what memory is being used (it also gives you a list of apps you CAN move to the SD card). I'd use it for diagnostics for now, as I don't know if VillainROM12 comes with APP2SD installed by default.
Try these out and let me know how you get on. PLEASE make a nandroid backup first, this CAN restore your SDCARD if the partition goes wrong.
Please be advised that I take no responsibility for any issues that may occur. I have performed all these tasks on my HTC Hero with no problems though.

I have tried these things but nothing helped. I have done everything the same with same type 8GB card and there was no problem, i think that HERO just cant handle 16GB but HTC says that it can support up to 32GB.

Malismalis said:
I have tried these things but nothing helped. I have done everything the same with same type 8GB card and there was no problem, i think that HERO just cant handle 16GB but HTC says that it can support up to 32GB.
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I can't really comment until I format my 16GB car and put it in (should be arriving this morning). Have you thought about another ROM? SENSE is notorious for causing lag. The guys at VillainROM also make FroydVillain (I think the latest version is 1.7.2). This doesn't have SENSE though, and you will need to backup your setting/messages/apps/and everything else first.
Backing up settings is slightly different to a nandroid. I recommend Backup Everything, as you can select what you want to back up. The only problem is you usually need to re-download the app on your new ROM to restore stuff, even if you backup apps too.
Update: Take a look at this thread for other ROMs
Sorry I can't be of more use...

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help with a2sd please

Hi,
Recently rooted my hero after losing impatience waiting 6 months for htc to get their finger out.
Used cronosdroid and now using villianrom 10.2 final but will no doubt try out modaco in some point too.
Anyway, I would like to know if it is possible to save and run my apps from the sdcard?
I hear this will be possible using 2.2 but have heard that something called a2sd allows this functionality also?
If so, could anyone point me in the right direction to get a total noobs guide to installing and using a2sd and how I would then go about deleting the apps from the phone's internal memory and just running them from the sd card?
Many thanks for any help and advice you are able to share,
Cheers.
So you have already installed Amon Ra 1.6.2 yeah?
Check out BTDAG's guide in my signature,... The apps2sd bit is about half way down the 1st post, in grey writing.
I downloaded something called quick system info from the market and it says that a2sd is there giving me 457mb total and 423mb free.
I went through that long drawn out procedure (as a result of being on t-mobile uk) and used amon ra and created a gold card etc.
My Problem is, I dont know how to "use" this a2sd functionality.
I want to basically download from the market and save to the sdcard and run the apps from the sdcard and am unsure how to do this?
It doesn't do it automatically as I get to the usual memory low message after downloading 50-100 apps, so presumably the apps are still saving to the phones internal memory.
Basically, I want to know how to save and run from the sdcard and delete from the phones memory if thats possible as I think is the whole point of a2sd?
dazzer1975 said:
I downloaded something called quick system info from the market and it says that a2sd is there giving me 457mb total and 423mb free.
I went through that long drawn out procedure (as a result of being on t-mobile uk) and used amon ra and created a gold card etc.
My Problem is, I dont know how to "use" this a2sd functionality.
I want to basically download from the market and save to the sdcard and run the apps from the sdcard and am unsure how to do this?
It doesn't do it automatically as I get to the usual memory low message after downloading 50-100 apps, so presumably the apps are still saving to the phones internal memory.
Basically, I want to know how to save and run from the sdcard and delete from the phones memory if thats possible as I think is the whole point of a2sd?
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If you followed my guide correctly it will be working. You can check that with the other script in my guide. If you're still running out of memory it is because the dalvik is still stored on the SD card.
Ok,.. So you need to be using a custom ROM with apps2sd enabled. Then once that is on your phone, you just need to partition the SD (like it says in the guide)... thats it!
btdag said:
If you followed my guide correctly it will be working. You can check that with the other script in my guide. If you're still running out of memory it is because the dalvik is still stored on the SD card.
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How do I move the dalvik to the phones internal memory?
I presume I followed the guide correctly as i've come from t-mobile touch g2 on 1.5 and am now using 2.1 villain rom and cronos rom before that but am still running out of memory, even with partitioning my sd card.
presumably then its the dalvik located on the sd card?
dazzer1975 said:
How do I move the dalvik to the phones internal memory?
I presume I followed the guide correctly as i've come from t-mobile touch g2 on 1.5 and am now using 2.1 villain rom and cronos rom before that but am still running out of memory, even with partitioning my sd card.
presumably then its the dalvik located on the sd card?
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yeah thats because you didn't flash either Dalvik Cache to the SD card or Dalvik-Cache to /cache thats why your phone still taking internal memory .. try this for solution :- http://www.villainrom.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Apps2SD
Hope it Helps
wicked cheers for that mate!!!!

[Q] can't move apps to sd card

juts updated to tazz v28 and cannot move any apps to the sd card - any ideas?
Did you enable app moving in the CM settings? I don't have a CM ROM flashed currently (back to xtrSENSE) so I can't tell you exactly where but I think it's one of the first menus in the CM settings.
yes, i have that selected, and it doesn't matter which app i try to move, even w/ app2sd. when i touch the "move to sd card" button, i get the "failed to move application" error message. any help is greatly appreciated. thank you.
You can always do it again, wipe data+dalvik 3x, reflash. Make sure you do a nand backup before you do any flashing !!!!!
You can also go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733897 Scroll down to post #2 (FAQ)
-This is due to your sdcard being partitioned more than likely. You can either format the entire card on a pc to fat32 or use recovery to unpartition. FROYO won't recognize the ext partitions on your card. App2Sd on FROYO stores all the apps in the same partition as everything else, just in a separate folder that it creates on its own. ***CAUTION***
(YOU WILL LOOSE ANY DATA ON CARD AS IT WILL BE FORMATED SO BACK UP YOUR CARD FIRST!)
-Boot to recovery.
-partition sdcard.
-0 swap
-0 ext2 for apps2sd.
-this will make one whole fat32 partition.
Resolved or no ?????
i've done everything listed w/ no change. the only thing i haven't done is start over and i was hoping to avoid that. everything else is working well, just running out of space. any other suggestions or thoughts? thank you - it is appreciated.
swingdome said:
i've done everything listed w/ no change. the only thing i haven't done is start over and i was hoping to avoid that. everything else is working well, just running out of space. any other suggestions or thoughts? thank you - it is appreciated.
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Sadly I think that starting over is about your only choice, if nothing else has fixed it. You could also always buy a new sd card and use that new one, then one by one start copying files onto the new card from your old one. Check the space available every time you copy a file over to see if it is 1 file causing this problem. Not really sure what else to do about it but what I posted should help. Try that out and let me know what happens.
does the platform make a difference? i'm running cyanogen mod tazz froyo 2.2.1 build, v28 on an htc eris phone w/ a 16gb sd card.
swingdome said:
does the platform make a difference? i'm running cyanogen mod tazz froyo 2.2.1 build, v28 on an htc eris phone w/ a 16gb sd card.
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What exactly do you mean? Make a difference to what? Your Apps2SD problem or starting over?
No to either one, in this case.
i meant my app2sd card issue. didn't know if anyone else had this build on this phone and was experiencing a similar problem.
Hi,
I am having the same issue with this ROM, Apps move to SD is failing. I just posted a comment in tazz froyo 2.2.1 build, v28 forum. anyone else having this problem ???
I am having this same problem on my dInc after flashing Kingdom Gengersense 3.0, I have yet to try and reformat my sd card. Hoping that will work
Just formatted the card and did not work. Still won't let me move my apps to SD
verymadworld1988 said:
Just formatted the card and did not work. Still won't let me move my apps to SD
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It won't let you move any? Some apps don't officially support being moved, but you can force move everything (except you'll not want to move keyboards and widgets because then they won't operate correctly) with Titanium Backup or some other apps out there.
Its Super user is bugged for gingerbread since the update im trying to find the fix

[Q]Nothing will install

Help guys i been having this problem i installed Brillian Corners and a bunch of other roms. but when i get on i like something weird happens on almost every one. when i go to the market to get a program it tells me there is no space. but my internal is empty and my 16gb external is empty too. so i got almosy 32gb free whats up?
gohanmoka said:
Help guys i been having this problem i installed Brillian Corners and a bunch of other roms. but when i get on i like something weird happens on almost every one. when i go to the market to get a program it tells me there is no space. but my internal is empty and my 16gb external is empty too. so i got almosy 32gb free whats up?
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i tried puttying my sd card after i installed rom and other apps. and then thats when i recieved mounting errors and internal sd was unmounted for whatever reason. I dont think this rom has support for external sd card. but just based on my expierence
lol this isnt the only on0e its happen to me on
well what do you have your micro sd formated as. i had fat32 but wasnt working in most roms. so i formated it to ext3 and its worked so far...at least in recognizing it.
Beastly mounted it fine.And so did all of gb roms.
also is there maybe just a way to root tapntap i do like it
i think there is. you might have to set up adb and push stuff over. but not to sure on that. you can always use a custom TNT rom. Its still tnt but much snappier and faster
im running 1.2 branch tapntap and it really fast

[Q] Urukdorid help.

Hi, i have been searching but have been unable to find some answers..
Completely new to this,before i start.
I installed urukdroid 1.5 using the easy install method on my archos 101.
1. When using urukdroid it is so slow and unresponsive, from what i have read this is probably because i have a slow cheap sd card, sound about right??
2. So if i want to uninstall ud from my card am i best using the recovery menu option (and would that just wipe all my stuff) or (as i saw in a different post) format the sd card on a pc and copy my stuff back on to it?? unsure of what is actually on the card and whats on the archos as far as uninstall goes. and what happens to the partitions
2.1. Secondly, why do people put ud on a sd card instead of the internal memory? (remember noob alert!!) it seems like you limit yourself to only using one sd card and the possibility of it running really slow.
3. So if i want to put it on my internal memory - should i do it? what are the pitfalls? will it wipe all my data like it did on the sd card? (lucky i took a backup eh!)
4. And, last question, i promise, is urukdroid really that much faster once you overclock and get it all running nicely?? for example i tried to run shadow gun on the stock 101 and it tried hard but didnt quite get there, would this run ok under ud? or am i completely missing the point of ud (very possible)
Thank you all for any help/answers.
Lee...
I also just installed Uruk 1.5 on my A70 last night and have updated to 1.6RC2 then 1.6RC4. I used advanced install and let it do its thing to install to internal memory. I can see maybe a slight improvement over the stock ROM but I now have a problem where I can't install any apps due to lack of space. This method did not wipe all my data and while still on 1.5 I was able to find my backed up apps and re-installed a few. You will still have your original ROM to fall back on. Unfortunately I have a feeling that anyone knowledgeable will not be reading these posts and newbies cant post in the developer's thread where the meat of the conversation is taking place. Maybe we'll get lucky.
Hi,
Yes i agree, anyone who would know the answers prob doesnt read these. Is it possible to bump it up a bit in anyway??
Lee...
1. If you don't have a verrrry fast sd card ii is alot slower then internal, esp. as the controller is also slower on sd then on the internal .
2. If you remove the sd card, and flash the Urukdroid initram and zimage you can install everything on internal.
The easyinstaller allwas to resize your internal memory so that the original Android and Data stays intact.
2.1. UrukDroid started on sd because it is easier to not do something wrong instead on the internal. Since 0.7 it is stable eough to allways go to internal.
3. Yes internal is the best way, and for erasing read 2.
4. No it is not much faster, how could it be?
Std archos runs with 1GHz and Uruk sometimes up to 1.2GHz ( most of us can't get over 1.1 ) so to be able to play really demanding games it is the wrong tablet.
And yes you are completely missing the point.
UD and every ROM for other devices are there to give you more freedom, like root or the way bigger appspace ( std archos has 300MB ), OS upgrade ( when CM7 or CM9 are done for ex) or other designes ( like MIUI).
My A70 runs much better since I changed to Urukdroid. Less laggy and generally faster. Very few crashes. The ext4 filesytem is much faster than Fat32 and I think that compcache and swap also help a lot.
Don.
Hi Fzelle,
Thanks for your help, cleared stuff up.
Like i said, i thought i might be missing the point of it, i did wonder how much difference overclocking it to 1.2Ghz and the UD system would make. but i can see the point of having a bigger app area, i had the warning of running out of space.
Just to check though, to uninstall it from my sd card you said see 2. but it wasnt clear what that meant. should i go to the recovery boot screen and delete it there or just format my sd card? and i have now got a rootfs.img on my internal storage, is this normal??
Thanks again.
Cheers Lee...
Rootfs.img comes from the SDE installation, as you have installed Angstrom Linux with that.
If you don't plan to use that, you can erase that or save it to your computer.
If you shut down the tab and remove the sd, install the zimage and initram of uruk you will be asked to install again.
Use advanced and install on internal.

[Q] Ics memory issues (yp-g70)

Hello guys
got a question, still cannot ask in develepment sub-forums, thats why trying to ask here anyway. sorry for that.
For a few weeks Im using roms based on AOKP, HyDrOG3N and Cruble (last few days). I love those roms very much and I allmost dont care about not working camera, but I've got some kind of trouble connected with those ROMs.
as I know, the memory issuses were solved by changing vold.fstab file. And it works really nice, but in this case all apps are installed to external sd card. I tryed to take them to internal memory using for example titanium backup pro, but result wasnt stable. Some of the apps fc after this operation, and in some of them their widgets got dissappeared from widget list (for ex. in poweamp).
THen i decided to change vold.fstab file to its previous condition, so the emmc would be external, and sdcard would be internal. Now it works, but in my opinion it got worse, because, install of a siple app from market (for ex. 3mb) takes probably to 20 minutes. And media files, like videos and images from external sd card couldnt be readed...
this was a kind of a long introduction to my question, but if this a common problem or only I have that? because I didnt find that someone wrote about that in dev sub-forums. And if its not common issue can I fix it somehow?
a really like those ROMs and I dodnt want to come back to 2.3 stock
using yp-g70 INTL 16gb, with 32gb SDHC Kingston memory card.
kernel now is [email protected] 1.
thanks for your responses
cheers

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