Hello guys. I currently have Eugene Gingerbread Clone R2 Rom with JL4 Voodoo Lag Fix on my Vibrant.
I want to try other roms for fun. I have some apps and my contacts and stuff backed up and also the entire rom itself. i also have the Stock (Rooted) Backed up as well. My question is how do i go about going back to the "Stock Rooted" safely without using the odin program.
Born2rade said:
Hello guys. I currently have Eugene Gingerbread Clone R2 Rom with JL4 Voodoo Lag Fix on my Vibrant.
I want to try other roms for fun. I have some apps and my contacts and stuff backed up and also the entire rom itself. i also have the Stock (Rooted) Backed up as well. My question is how do i go about going back to the "Stock Rooted" safely without using the odin program.
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Well, assuming you have ALL of your apps and data and contacts and such backed up with Titanium Pro (make sure, you don't want to lose this stuff!), just reboot into clockwork recovery.
NEXT DISABLE VOODOO OR DIE.
I'm also assuming you made a backup of your "stock rooted rom" with Clockwork Mod Recovery? Now, just reboot into that green clockwork recovery and go to nandroid or backup and restore and click RESTORE.
Yes i have my stock rooted backed up and also my gingerbread rom backed up as well and also some of the important apps and my contacts backed up.
I will give it a try now.
I don't think it worked lol. Screen shows "Searching"
Sweep screen to unlock but screen is black and i cannot do anything.
cannot seem to get back to recovery either
Bob forgot a very important step, flashing a 2.1 kernal...
Best way out is to just flash another Froyo rom through clockwork since you don't want to mess with Odin.
I recommend Axura 2.2.5.7 as well as Nero V3. Go get those and see what you think.
*Edit* just saw your post 1min before mine. You may be using Odin after all.
Ok Thx. Makes sense lol
Nah i only use Rom Manager.
Ok i'm back to my Gingerclone.. I'm going to find Eclair 2.1 kernel, i assume thats the one i need to get and yes i will make sure to disable voodoo before i flash the 2.1 kernel .
Thx.
Born2rade said:
Ok i'm back to my Gingerclone.. I'm going to find Eclair 2.1 kernel, i assume thats the one i need to get and yes i will make sure to disable voodoo before i flash the 2.1 kernel .
Thx.
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If you just want to flash other roms, you don't have to return to 2.1 IMO.
Just backup everything (Titanium/Nand/Launcher Pro if used), then clear data and cache in clockwork. After that go to install zip from SD and select the new Rom which should be sitting on your internal 16g memory and let it do it's thing.
Ok well i tried other roms. I tried Nero V3, That one was bad, internet was uber slow and Gps doesn't work.
I tried Axura 2.2.5.7, Worked very well except Gps also does not work.
Right now i'm going to stick with my Gingerbread R2 as for everything works extremely well.
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I am unhappy with ji6, my gps and compass no longer work and i've had nothing but problems since the update. also the call waiting dial screen lag sucks. I would like to go back to my previous rom which was basically stock rooted with ji2 gps fix and accurate battery mod. I have this saved as a backup, but I am afraid to flash it. When I flashed the new ota update it bricked my phone. I was unble to load my previous backup through clockwork recovery. I had to completely wipe my data and start over. any advice on the safety of trying to flash back to my backup rom, will it conflict with the ji6 framework?
Thanks
There should be no issues at all. I assume you still have the stock kernel too... if you had an oc kernel I would go back to stock first.
just go to rom manager and click on restore, then select your old backup... should take you to cwr and reboot when done.
My first thought was to download a custom rom. I just flashed bionix 1.7 and it seems much better than stock JI6.
I would really urge doing that...
yeah, maybe i'll try bionix first, It's just that I was really happy with the way it ran before this stupid update.
I also was fond of my setup before the update. Bionix made it better again. Hope you like it, worst case go back to stock.
I will say I would make sure you can revert to stock from bionix. I have seen a number of posts with issues, but that may be from people who had the oc kernel? I can't say with certainty.
Same here, i flashed bionix (first time using bionix) I flashed bionic 1.7 w ji2 modem oc/uv no voodoo and this thing flies! Gps is fine, navigation is usable.
s15274n said:
There should be no issues at all. I assume you still have the stock kernel too... if you had an oc kernel I would go back to stock first.
just go to rom manager and click on restore, then select your old backup... should take you to cwr and reboot when done.
My first thought was to download a custom rom. I just flashed bionix 1.7 and it seems much better than stock JI6.
I would really urge doing that...
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I tried flashing back to my backup...(stock, rooted with bat mod and ji2 gps fix) and it got stuck in the vibrant startup screen, same as when I ran the ota. I guess my previous setup is no longer an option. Before I try another rom and have to redo all of settings and apps again, I would like to try to at least get the gps working on the ota ji6. Any advice on how to do that would be appreciated. So far I have tried all of the things I was able to find in other threads...deleted gps data, made sure lbstest settings are stock, turned off wireless, etc. I still get no locks at all.
Is bionix really that good? I'm considering it. I'm on my stock rom, stock kernel.
I think i'm going to try it out.
This is my second time trying to restore a backup using clockwork and it just hangs on the vibrant screen. The first time I forgot to disable voodoo so that was the problem then, but this time I was on obsidian froyo rom and had issues where I was not able to get any data reception (3g/edge) so I figured to try and got back to stock to see if that solved the issue but no I'm stuck on vibrant screen. It went through the process of restoring then rebooting but it got suck. I am very frustrated because I can't never get it to work so what is the point of backing up stuff. I will be using odin again to restore and not use backups anymore. Just wanted to vent as I am very frustrated about this. If there is some out there that could shed some light as to why I keep getting stuck on the vibrant screen I would appreciate it.
Will be getting a replacement phone from my date issue, and yes my voice still works just not data part.
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Froyo has a differnt kernel than eclair. You were trying to restore an eclair build, but you did not flash the stock eclair kernel first.
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Froyo has a differnt kernel than eclair. You were trying to restore an eclair build, but you did not flash the stock eclair kernel first.
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what eclair kernel can i use for the future???
i odin back to JFD and my 3g/edge is working again i wonder why i lost it?
Probably the easiest thing to do would have been to flash a new custom rom with the kernel included, like Fusion/Bionix.
You could have flashed the stock kernel and then restored a JI6 nandroid too though I imagine. I've not tried yet. The stock kernel can be found in my signature or in the development section. I have a copy on my internal memory just in case.
I am currently running bionix fusion which i know is an eclair rom however i want to flash obsidian, my question was can i flash a froyo rom just as i would any other rom or do i have to install a kernel for 2.2 and when going back to a 2.1 rom do i have to do anything? Sorry if my question is confusing...
Flash it like anything else (depending on the rom), instructions should be in the first post, most flash just like any other rom.
In going from 2.1 to 2.2, you can use CWR to flash the new ROM. The ROMs come with the kernels. But you will want to be sure to follow the install instructions of the ROM you've selected.
Now, if you should decide to go from 2.2 back to 2.1, you will need to flash a 2.1 ROM first. If all if you is a Nandroid recovery without flashing a 2.1 ROM first, you'll have to introduce yourself to ODIN.
so i should be good if say i go from obsidian to bionix as long as i dont do a nandroid backup first thanks for the quick reply by the way
reyese24 said:
so i should be good if say i go from obsidian to bionix as long as i dont do a nandroid backup first thanks for the quick reply by the way
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The key word there is *should*.
From what I can tell, if you do a nandroid backup & restore, you want that to be to the same version of the OS. So, you probably don't want to do a backup from a 2.2 ROM and then recover to a 2.1 ROM, or visa-versa. No harm in doing the backup, however. The thing to avoid is the recovery into the wrong ROM.
As long as you flash a ROM that includes the kernel, you *should* be fine. That said, it is possible that something could go wrong, in which case having ODIN around can save you. (It took me several hours to figure out how to get the right drivers to connect my PC to my phone using ODIN. But once I figured that out, flashing JFD on the phone takes only a few minutes. But I don't flash "in the field", only at home - so if something goes wrong, I'm in a position to repair it).
EDIT: I'm not sure why you'd want to go from a 2.2 ROM back to 2.1 if you've already ventured into the custom ROM world. If you're not happy with the Obsidian performance, you might try Onyx or another ROM, like Axura.
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The key word there is *should*.
From what I can tell, if you do a nandroid backup & restore, you want that to be to the same version of the OS. So, you probably don't want to do a backup from a 2.2 ROM and then recover to a 2.1 ROM, or visa-versa. No harm in doing the backup, however. The thing to avoid is the recovery into the wrong ROM.
As long as you flash a ROM that includes the kernel, you *should* be fine. That said, it is possible that something could go wrong, in which case having ODIN around can save you. (It took me several hours to figure out how to get the right drivers to connect my PC to my phone using ODIN. But once I figured that out, flashing JFD on the phone takes only a few minutes. But I don't flash "in the field", only at home - so if something goes wrong, I'm in a position to repair it).
EDIT: I'm not sure why you'd want to go from a 2.2 ROM back to 2.1 if you've already ventured into the custom ROM world. If you're not happy with the Obsidian performance, you might try Onyx or another ROM, like Axura.
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Just to summarize, followed by a question of my own.
Correct me if any of this is wrong. These are the points I gathered from reading this thread.
-Ok Nandroid backup is a program which can be used to backup and at a later time restore your stock firmware, i.e. stock 2.1.
-Backing up your current 2.1 ROM is safe, restoring might get you in trouble if you don't have the correct 2.1 kernal to match.
-Any of the popular 2.2 ROMS (Axura, Macnut, Obsidian) all come with the 2.2 kernal coupled.
-Downgrading from a 2.2 ROM, and restoring your Nandroid Backup of 2.1 can get you into trouble, unless you install a 2.1 ROM first which would restore a 2.1 Kernal at the same time.
Now my question is this. How do you backup not only your 2.1 stock ROM, but your stock kernal also? If you decide you don't like custom 2.2 ROMS and want to go back down to your stock 2.1 rom and kernal, how can you avoid having to install another custom 2.1 ROM with kernal, just to be able to put your restore 2.1 back. Confusing question I know, but basically, how can you just go from a custom 2.2 rom/kernal back to your own stock restore of 2.1(ROM and Kernal), will Nandroid backup the kernal also?
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-Ok Nandroid backup is a program which can be used to backup and at a later time restore your stock firmware, i.e. stock 2.1.
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Nandroid is the backup/restore component of the ClockworkMod's ROM Manager app. You can use it on any version of the ROM, not only the stock 2.1 version.
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-Backing up your current 2.1 ROM is safe, restoring might get you in trouble if you don't have the correct 2.1 kernal to match.
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Backups are safe. And restoring can get you into trouble if you don't restore to the same version of the OS (more specifically, the kernal, as you've indicated) that you made your backup from.
SamsungVibrant said:
-Any of the popular 2.2 ROMS (Axura, Macnut, Obsidian) all come with the 2.2 kernal coupled.
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For this, you have to read the notes for each build. Yes, as a general rule, the latest works are on 2.2 (which means they come with a 2.2 kernal of some kind).
SamsungVibrant said:
-Downgrading from a 2.2 ROM, and restoring your Nandroid Backup of 2.1 can get you into trouble, unless you install a 2.1 ROM first which would restore a 2.1 Kernal at the same time.
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Yes. My trick is that if I flash ROMs, I don't do worry about nandroid. If I'm trying to customize my current ROM, then that's where I do a nandroid. But you have to do what works best for you.
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Now my question is this. How do you backup not only your 2.1 stock ROM, but your stock kernal also? If you decide you don't like custom 2.2 ROMS and want to go back down to your stock 2.1 rom and kernal, how can you avoid having to install another custom 2.1 ROM with kernal, just to be able to put your restore 2.1 back. Confusing question I know, but basically, how can you just go from a custom 2.2 rom/kernal back to your own stock restore of 2.1(ROM and Kernal), will Nandroid backup the kernal also?
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Good question. I've never backed up the kernal. I only flash ones that others have provided. I'll leave that question for people smarter that me to answer. ;-)
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Good question. I've never backed up the kernal. I only flash ones that others have provided. I'll leave that question for people smarter that me to answer. ;-)
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thanks for the info, anyone know the answer to that last question?
you flash the kernel first and then you restore nandroid for the system that ran on that kernel.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible if you brick your phone
EDIT: don't forget the radio/modem as well, it is not being backed up by NANDROID.
reyese24 said:
I am currently running bionix fusion which i know is an eclair rom however i want to flash obsidian, my question was can i flash a froyo rom just as i would any other rom or do i have to install a kernel for 2.2 and when going back to a 2.1 rom do i have to do anything? Sorry if my question is confusing...
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Not sure if it was said AND I'm not 100% sure on this but I believe bionix (and a few others) include the kernals in there roms.
and im pretty sure you can just flash over the original fusion you were using and it will also install there kernals.
or you can scope out the bible in the development section to find a kernal.
umm ok so how do you backup your stock kernal, radio and modem?
lqaddict said:
you flash the kernel first and then you restore nandroid for the system that ran on that kernel.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible if you brick your phone
EDIT: don't forget the radio/modem as well, it is not being backed up by NANDROID.
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So if Nandroid can be used to backup your stock ROM. Then how do you backup your stock kernal, radio, and modem?
I had zero problems when rooting and flashing my G1, but now with my Vibrant I am not sure what I did.
A few excellent stickies at the top but I seem to not be making any progress.
Here are the steps I took.
I had a stock Vibrant running 2.1
I downloaded ROM Manager, installed clockwork mod.
Did a backup of my current system ( was I supposed to do a clockwork AND nandroid?)
Downloaded and successfully installed a ROM called Blackhole 1.0
it runs ok but didn't give me the option to switch from 3G to EDGE data, and then I couldn't get internet access at all so i decided to restore my original stock vibrant system.
So I rebooted into recovery, selected restore (my phone won't go into recovery anymore for some reason) and waited, it took a while, then I rebooted (forgot to wipe), but it just got stuck on the Vibrant screen. So I booted into recovery mode again and wiped just user data not cache and rebooted, same thing stuck at Vibrant.
Now i keep hearing about something called ODIN, what I can tell it is some kind of flasher program for ROMS, nobody seems to give any kind of link or anything, is it greymarket or something?
So where am I now? I think the excellent noob guide needs to be updated a bit more.
My phone can get into download mode (whatever it is for i don't know) but it won't get into recovery mode anymore.
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
i think what happened to you is you flashed a 2.2 ROM then tried to revert back to 2.1 without doing the proper downgrading steps i.e. you did not flash a 2.1 kernel first.
but since you can get to download mode.. just flash stock JFD or JI6 through ODIN and you should be good.
good luck
Once you get back to stock don't give up on the 2.2 toms. Try axura or nero. They might have a few minor bugs but its way better then stock 2.1.
Powered by Axura with a dash of Voodoo
I have done the samething as you, coming from a nexus one it seemed easier to flash roms without worrying about downgrading kernels or what not. Recently I was on Nero froyo and flashed to a different rom, and tried to revert back but ended up stuck at the vibrant screen. Think it has something to do with voodoo lag.
Anyways I had to use Odin with the no brick froyo off ebproductions. Ran that and uploaded clockwork, reinstalled voodoo lag fix and was able to nandroid back to my Nero set up. Somewhat of a pain but once you've done it, no need to worry about bricking
xtone said:
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
i think what happened to you is you flashed a 2.2 ROM then tried to revert back to 2.1 without doing the proper downgrading steps i.e. you did not flash a 2.1 kernel first.
but since you can get to download mode.. just flash stock JFD or JI6 through ODIN and you should be good.
good luck
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So the steps that are in this page?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475
GreggoryD502 said:
Once you get back to stock don't give up on the 2.2 toms. Try axura or nero. They might have a few minor bugs but its way better then stock 2.1.
Powered by Axura with a dash of Voodoo
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Well as long as I can use Odin if I f-up royally like above then I might give it a shot.
Need to read about downgrading kernals or whatever. Might just wait for Cyanogen 6.1
Just so you know, the backup utility in Rom Manager (clockwork) is really just shortcut to a nandroid backup.
The way I have things set up for backups, and this is just for my personal convenience, is as follows...
I have a stock JFD ODIN rom to flash in case anything goes wrong. (A lot of people here will tell you to flash this whenever flashing a new rom. It is safer, and cleaner to do it this way, but not absolutely necessary)
I make a nandroid of my last stable rom (I only keep one at a time cause the files are huge) and keep a backup of that on my PC.
I backup all my apps and a few other things (call logs, bookmarks, sms) through Titanium backup. If you get the pro version, you can load it up after flashing a new rom and have it automatically restore all your apps in one click (system settings can be dangerous to restore when going from rom to rom, so be careful with those.) I also keep a backup of this on my PC.
I will also occasionally backup both of the sd cards to the PC.
Maybe overkill, but you probably wont ever lose anything forever.
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Just so you know, the backup utility in Rom Manager (clockwork) is really just shortcut to a nandroid backup.
The way I have things set up for backups, and this is just for my personal convenience, is as follows...
I have a stock JFD ODIN rom to flash in case anything goes wrong. (A lot of people here will tell you to flash this whenever flashing a new rom. It is safer, and cleaner to do it this way, but not absolutely necessary)
I make a nandroid of my last stable rom (I only keep one at a time cause the files are huge) and keep a backup of that on my PC.
I backup all my apps and a few other things (call logs, bookmarks, sms) through Titanium backup. If you get the pro version, you can load it up after flashing a new rom and have it automatically restore all your apps in one click (system settings can be dangerous to restore when going from rom to rom, so be careful with those.) I also keep a backup of this on my PC.
I will also occasionally backup both of the sd cards to the PC.
Maybe overkill, but you probably wont ever lose anything forever.
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OK I will just do the long way from now on. I use this phone on AT&T, I was worried that I flushed $500 down the toilet but ever since i modded my first phone way back in the day i've been addicted.
Running Odin and my phone is in download mode, about to flash this b**ch.
wish me luck.
I flashed Odin on my phone to revert to stock. Re-Rooted it but now I can't flash Clockworkmod. Please help D:
use the update.zip posted here. You want B.
I'm wondering how I can get CWM back on my stock gingerbread fascinate now... I used the speedmod kernel to root, which had CWM built in. Then I replace it with stock GB kernel.. which has 3e recovery.
When I run ROM manager now with gingerbread the fascinate don't come up in the list no more.. there are 2 i9000's, one of those is a MTD... and 2 others. 4 in total.
I have the update.zip file which I downloaded from Rom Manager when I was on Froyo. Will that work? I'm afraid to try.
I've also seen methods of ADB pushing the recovery.bin over the current 3e. I just really not to sure which is the best way to do it, and I've done so much reading now it's got me confused.
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Maniac
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I'm wondering how I can get CWM back on my stock gingerbread fascinate now... I used the speedmod kernel to root, which had CWM built in. Then I replace it with stock GB kernel.. which has 3e recovery.
When I run ROM manager now with gingerbread the fascinate don't come up in the list no more.. there are 2 i9000's, one of those is a MTD... and 2 others. 4 in total.
I have the update.zip file which I downloaded from Rom Manager when I was on Froyo. Will that work? I'm afraid to try.
I've also seen methods of ADB pushing the recovery.bin over the current 3e. I just really not to sure which is the best way to do it, and I've done so much reading now it's got me confused.
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Maniac
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Second that - in the same boat.
As I understand it, it's a bootloader issue to install CM7 on Gingerbread. Downgrade to 2.2 and flash away!
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As I understand it, it's a bootloader issue to install CM7 on Gingerbread. Downgrade to 2.2 and flash away!
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I don't want CM, I want to get clockwork recovery on my stock gingerbread.
I'm also in the same Boat. It would be nice to get clockwork recovery installed.
I have successfully rooted Gingerbread, part of the process is to flash the the Speedmod kernel first. With the Speedmod kernel, it has clockwork on it which you can boot into but unfortunately your phone cannot normally boot with that kernel.
I'm loving Gingerbread right now, it is so much smoother then 2.2, there is no way I want to go back to 2.2.
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I'm also in the same Boat. It would be nice to get clockwork recovery installed.
I have successfully rooted Gingerbread, part of the process is to flash the the Speedmod kernel first. With the Speedmod kernel, it has clockwork on it which you can boot into but unfortunately your phone cannot normally boot with that kernel.
I'm loving Gingerbread right now, it is so much smoother then 2.2, there is no way I want to go back to 2.2.
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Right there with you - so much better than 2.2 EVEN with lagfix running - was very thankful for ROOT but would love CWM recovery back - very useful tool.
I don't know if it was this thread I made the post, but something I did mention that I did was...
When I used the speedmod kernel to root the phone, I made a nandroid backup. Then I flashed the stock kernel back. I'm assuming if I wanted to restore my phone with the backup I could just flash the speedmod kernel back, restore by backup, then flash the stock kernel back again.
I don't know if clockwork is programmed to backup certain partitions, or if its dynamic, but I'm tempted to try my restore, but at the same time I don't want to go through all the updating agan.
Another thing, I have the 3 ODIN CWM file, the purple, blue, and no color ones you find on here. If you extract those you get a recovery.bin file, and there is no zimage (kernel). If you take one of those clockworkmods with no kernel and overwrite the stock recovery.bin in the phone, shouldn't that work?
I'm still new to android, first time I laid hands on one was this june, I'm still new, but I'm a fast learner too, but I want to figure this one out.
-Maniac
MrManiacNF said:
I don't know if it was this thread I made the post, but something I did mention that I did was...
When I used the speedmod kernel to root the phone, I made a nandroid backup. Then I flashed the stock kernel back. I'm assuming if I wanted to restore my phone with the backup I could just flash the speedmod kernel back, restore by backup, then flash the stock kernel back again.
I don't know if clockwork is programmed to backup certain partitions, or if its dynamic, but I'm tempted to try my restore, but at the same time I don't want to go through all the updating agan.
Another thing, I have the 3 ODIN CWM file, the purple, blue, and no color ones you find on here. If you extract those you get a recovery.bin file, and there is no zimage (kernel). If you take one of those clockworkmods with no kernel and overwrite the stock recovery.bin in the phone, shouldn't that work?
I'm still new to android, first time I laid hands on one was this june, I'm still new, but I'm a fast learner too, but I want to figure this one out.
-Maniac
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Hey MrManiacNF,
Thanks for the idea, I guess it is a work around for now until we are able to get CWM installed on Gingerbread.
I ended up flashing the speedmod kernal back on, booted into CWM and made a full nandroid backup. Reflashed the stock gingerbread kernal back and booted up as normal.
Yea I do the same thing, I mean you can't make a backup without a pc to flash with, but a backup is better then none.
No love from ROM Manager
Saw ROM Manager had a few updates, but still seeing the limited device selection when trying to create a custom recovery, and still fails with the unsigned zip.
Just wanted to post that if anyone was wondering if recent updates corrected anything, as they have not (at least for me).
I can also confirm, actually no new phones added to the list. I've also tried an app call Root Toolbox Pro. It has options to backup your recovery or flash another. I tried flashing the fascinate-3.0.0.8.zip that I had from Rom Manager from Froyo. No luck, just hung at boot. Had to re-flash stock kernel in odin to fix.