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Guys, pardon my ignorance, I am a total newbie here as you can see. I am an iPhone user and can work around with iPhone pretty ok and I am new to Windows Mobile devices.
I am very enticed to upgrade my Windows Mobile Device to the later version which i Believer is Windows 6.5.
I downloaded the "cooked" roms as they say it. I dont know if its similar with the booloaders and stuff in iPhone but anyway.. I must say I am totally nood with the terms used in Windows Mobile Development community. Pardon me.
I just cant find the simplest tutorial on how to upgrade my device. I was hoping someone would be sooo KIND to lend me a hand. I am dying to see Windows Mobile 6.5 run on my device but I am not sure how to do it.
I am currently running Windows 6 Professional.
I hope someone can help me with this. you may send me an email at rap.espiritu(at)gmail(dot)com.
Please..
Thanks a lot guys
respiritu said:
Guys, pardon my ignorance, I am a total newbie here as you can see. I am an iPhone user and can work around with iPhone pretty ok and I am new to Windows Mobile devices.
I am very enticed to upgrade my Windows Mobile Device to the later version which i Believer is Windows 6.5.
I downloaded the "cooked" roms as they say it. I dont know if its similar with the booloaders and stuff in iPhone but anyway.. I must say I am totally nood with the terms used in Windows Mobile Development community. Pardon me.
I just cant find the simplest tutorial on how to upgrade my device. I was hoping someone would be sooo KIND to lend me a hand. I am dying to see Windows Mobile 6.5 run on my device but I am not sure how to do it.
I am currently running Windows 6 Professional.
I hope someone can help me with this. you may send me an email at rap.espiritu(at)gmail(dot)com.
Please..
Thanks a lot guys
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Here is the link on How to Install ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535064
Where did you get hold of the 6.5 ROM?
hybiepoo said:
Where did you get hold of the 6.5 ROM?
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Buddy,
Go to this link...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549804
i was just wondering if a hero can run wm 6.5 and would it be worth it.
Well... while in theory it's probably possible to write an emulator or even hack Windows Mobile to work with different hardware, it's highly unlikely that anyone has bothered to do so. So the short answer is, no, get a Hero if you want to use Android, or get another phone if it's Windows Mobile you want.
garytaylor1974 said:
i was just wondering if a hero can run wm 6.5 and would it be worth it.
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i dont think it would be worth it. the hero is an awesome phone, but it isnt anything special hardware wise. if you want winmo it would be a whole lot easier to just buy a winmo phone. i reckon more people are interested in doing the opposite. i would love to have android on my TP2.
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i was just wondering if a hero can run wm 6.5 and would it be worth it.
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Its being worked on for the HTC Diamond http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002
Steven__ said:
Well... while in theory it's probably possible to write an emulator or even hack Windows Mobile to work with different hardware, it's highly unlikely that anyone has bothered to do so. So the short answer is, no, get a Hero if you want to use Android, or get another phone if it's Windows Mobile you want.
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No.
Why would you want to?
MrHorus said:
No.
Why would you want to?
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Why no, the why wouldnt you want to part i understand.
Seeing the new HD 2 running on wm 6.5 WITH a captive touchscreen and
about all the hardware being the same on the winmo phones (diamond2)
makes me think it is possible, but still it would be easier to just buy a winmo phone...
Could this be a sticky. I have a feeling this going to a frequently asked annoying question. It has already been asked several times.... Want a Windows phone buy a windows phone.
notrock said:
Could this be a sticky. I have a feeling this going to a frequently asked annoying question. It has already been asked several times.... Want a Windows phone buy a windows phone.
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Why buy a windows phone when the Hero suits your visual demands and is able to run wm 6.5
I can imagine people not buying the hero for it's looks, same with the diamond2
Imagine me loving the hero phone but don't want to leave winmo... would be great
if it can run on it.
Whilst I'm sure it is possible that some enterprising chef could cook up and post up a WM6.5 ROM for the Hero, it would be removed instantly because it would be warez.
The Hero didn't come with WinMo, and therefore doesn't come with a licence to run WinMo. I'm sure someone would argue that they've an old WinMo device and want to "transfer" their licence to the Hero, but the chef could still find themselves being pursued by MS.
The same is not true in reverse of course, because Android is open source, but we've already seen Cyanogen receive a C&D letter from Google for distributing their closed source binaries with his ROMs.
Regards,
Dave
Nah, you wouldn't want to put WinMo on the Hero.
BUT I have an old Orange SPV which runs an old WinMo, could I put Android on to that ?
Vince
Android port any chance any new info
might want to sticky an android topic, new fresh details as of 28th jan 2010
I´m a fully ignorant in programming but I have an idea on my mind, if the Nexus One have the same Snapdragon platform that Toshiba TG01, could be possible a port of Android 2.1 to the Toshiba TG01 and HTC HD2 also with Snapdragon?
I don´t know if it´s possible or not, but to me would be a dream have the power of Toshiba with Android ... and if it would have Sense UI would be perfect xDD
I saw someone said Android on TG01, don't know if this is true or not.
gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-reviews-2662.php
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I saw someone said Android on TG01, don't know if this is true or not.
gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-reviews-2662.php
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Oh, can't believe it
Yeah i think the dood who posted that over at gsmarena was just lying.
Out of my own interest I've tried a few builds of Android on the TG01 but havn't got anything to boot up fully yet - i havn't played with startup.txt files or anything yet - i might have another dabble at the weekend if i get abit of time.
I'm not a dev and have minimal knowledge of Linux so theres not too much i can do, but if we could at least get a build to boot and show the Home screen i think would be a great start to springboard development.
There's a lot of builds of Android for HTC devices flying around, it couldnt hurt to try them and see what happens - You cannot harm your device in any way doing this as it isn't flashed to ROM just copy the relevent files to the root of your SD card and then run HARET.EXE application.
I've noticed the boot text is really tiny so it's difficult to read any error messages and such.
If anyone has a go at testing any builds it might be worth posting here with the build and results of any testing.
Also this may well be just a complete waste of time - who knows!
Cheers
Paul
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You cannot harm your device in any way doing this as it isn't flashed to ROM
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If I recall well some discussions in Android for Diamond threads, if you try to tweak the settings in Haret and give it bad values you can hurt your device or the memory card... So be carefull...
To people not confident in what they are doing : don't do it ! You have been warned
Howell said:
If I recall well some discussions in Android for Diamond threads, if you try to tweak the settings in Haret and give it bad values you can hurt your device or the memory card... So be carefull...
To people not confident in what they are doing : don't do it ! You have been warned
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Thanks Howell, im sure people here would be more than aware of any possible risks as always with this sort of stuff but from my understanding this should be safe - the HARET application is simply a bootloader for the Linux kernel - it absolutely cannot write to your phone's system files - it can however write files to your SD but cannot damage it in any way - the generated files can simply be deleted.
There's actually no settings to tweak in HARET either - it simply looks for a startup.txt file, if theres none present you have the option to browse for one - theres nothing else to tweak. The startup.txt file contains the settings that Haret reads - if this isn't correct it simply crashes the device which then requires a soft reset if in fact it doesn't reboot itself.
If someone who actually knows from experience and not 'recalling from another thread' wants to verify any Harm that can be caused with HARET please let us know!
Thanks
Paul
They have port android on HD1. Like it's in WVGA, maybe some crazy guys want to try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621498&highlight=android+HD
Supports Blackstone, Diamond, Diamond 500, Fuze, Raphael, Raphael 800, Rhodium, Tilt 2 & Topaz
if programmers started making a port i would consider getting a tg01 i love the white color, currently i have a htc fuze and am always running android onit.
who are the main android developers on forum?
Just Trying
Just Trying The Hatet way on my phone also trying the htc .cab way
dam they both just fail and i tried all startup.txt files for all phones!!!
It ain't that easy. You need the configure the starup.txt you need to find the Thosiba tg01 id etc etc...
You need a kernell who works with the toshiba hardware...
You need a lot, but it is posible.
i am currently trawling the intraweb looking for a zimage kernal to run my tg01 and trying to do the startup file myself.
slow going...
If u get android working on tg01 please upload the file and give us a link please
ditto, you'd be a legend if you could get it going!!
i think android will be so cool on this device come on android geeks where are you we need your skills show us what you can do do us proud and bring android to tg01 i dare you if you can hell i will even donate let the world know we want android on toshiba tg01 let the android games begin.......... woops sorry if i got abit carried away.
I agree and i would donate to if we could get android on tg01!!!!
CUMON!!!
android 2 be or not 2 be that is the question
did anyone try latest xandroid build
LeTo08 said:
They have port android on HD1. Like it's in WVGA, maybe some crazy guys want to try
Supports Blackstone, Diamond, Diamond 500, Fuze, Raphael, Raphael 800, Rhodium, Tilt 2 & Topaz
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I had already tried. I had previously a HTC HD and i put the same memory card in my new TG01. I tried to run Haret.exe, but the phone stuck and need to remove the battery to turn on again.
Tg01 android
CEDARSMITH IN tg01 forum is decrypting TG01 AT MINUTE IF ANYONE POST MESSAGES HIM HE MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU DEVICE IDS AND STUFF
Hello
Is it possible to run Android on Touch2?
Nope, it needs the HardSPL first and then a custom android rom cooked just for the touch 2.
If I sound like i know what I'm talking about, I dont, but thats what I've been told so far.
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Nope, it needs the HardSPL first and then a custom android rom cooked just for the touch 2.
If I sound like i know what I'm talking about, I dont, but thats what I've been told so far.
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I dont think that you are right! You dont need HardSPL for Android not even to change ROM! You can run Android under windows for many devices just not Mega yet! Check this.
VirusPlus said:
I dont think that you are right! You dont need HardSPL for Android not even to change ROM! You can run Android under windows for many devices just not Mega yet! Check this.
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Yup. There is possibility to start the android from Windows Mobile with help of special executable (haret.exe). But it seems this way does not work for Mega yet.
hah, fair point, i did point out that i didnt know what i was talking about
Alexbits said:
Hello
Is it possible to run Android on Touch2?
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Does anybody solve the problem with HARET.exe on Touch 2???
I'd really like to run Android on my device! but I can't
It is possible
I have followed the instructions and Android works well in my touch2
http://www.simosoftprojects.com/androkkid.php
But its only theme? We need OS
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But its only theme? We need OS
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Yeah, you're right! Does anyone tryed to run Android on Windows mobile??? As I said, my try was crashed. HARET gives me error after his start, he even do not try to load Android (((
yes android is working just a few bugs but is usable as a phone
May be more information or instructions?
Any chance of crashing or bricking the device ?!
come on give in some instructions and point out the possibilities of screwing up the device ;]] and ofc how could we fix it after that ...
we'r waitin..
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yes android is working just a few bugs but is usable as a phone
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so, how did u start Android on Touch 2. We need details! ))
Or maybe just a hoax.
yeah it's definitely a hoax.
I really want android on the mega
I really don't understand you guys...
Why did you bought HTC Touch2, which is with WinMobile OS, when on other side you could buy HTC Tattoo with Android, and with more hardware, and also little cheaper...
And now, you want to put Android to Touch2...
Why didn't you buy android phone...?
I just don't see point...
How about getting WM on the Tattoo?
These two devices seem as similar as it gets.
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I really don't understand you guys...
Why did you bought HTC Touch2, which is with WinMobile OS, when on other side you could buy HTC Tattoo with Android, and with more hardware, and also little cheaper...
And now, you want to put Android to Touch2...
Why didn't you buy android phone...?
I just don't see point...
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i could buy the Tatto when i chosed my phone , but i didnt know WTF was Android ... just heard only that it's a new google OS and that's all ... and when heard that if u start posting all the apps for WM u cant stop for years , my choise was done ;]] now Android devices question if they can run WM on their devices and we quest if we can run Android on our devices isn't it cool
WinMo<--->Android fight which is better , but they want to run each other and give it a try ?!
baklavoni said:
I really don't understand you guys...
Why did you bought HTC Touch2, which is with WinMobile OS, when on other side you could buy HTC Tattoo with Android, and with more hardware, and also little cheaper...
And now, you want to put Android to Touch2...
Why didn't you buy android phone...?
I just don't see point...
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The touch 2 is half the price the Magic and the Hero are.
@secosan
Touch2 is about 10 euros more expensive than Tattoo...
@LtBlue
It is nice to have dual boot (WinMO and Android). I have it on my Diamond.
Only thing is that Android will never get 100% ported to Diamond (or other WinMO device). There is always something missing,... and battery life when using WiFI is very short (approx 2 hours). This and other small bugs (plus frequent Android crashing on Diamond) is turning me from android on Diamond...
There is android topic in Diamond forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002 with more than 6000 replies, and more than 1,600,000 views, but solution for 100% port of Android to Diamond is not yet found.
Honestly, I think it will never will be made... More likely, everyone who desperately want Android on Diamond, will buy Android device, like me... (still need money for that)
Well, I just wanna say to you all: Don't give up with android on Touch2, but most likely it will never work as it work on native Android device.
If you are desperately in need on Android device, then buy one...
And have in mind, that you will get more hardware with Android phone, and it will be cheaper than WinMO device in same rang.
Hope I helped a little...
Hi everybody. I've seen many people and posts about TITAN II eagerly waiting for the HSPL and custom roms and me to but now the bad news is HTC stopped giving updates for TITAN II and busy with the new project and more windows phones are coming out with OS 8. Even there are people waiting for the update for the Windows 7.8 so will there be 7.8 update coming for the TITAN II cause I prefer updating the OS rather than buying another Windows 8 Phone. Please give us the option to either update the phone to 7.8 or 8 or HSPL so that we can have custom roms running on our TITAN II and option to install 3rd party apps
Blame AT&T for it, not HTC.
HTC is more than happy to send you update for your phone without the Cellular testing it first.
If anybody knows a way to update Titan II unofficially, please post it. The phone is great and its a shame that AT&T has denied the updates.
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If anybody knows a way to update Titan II unofficially, please post it. The phone is great and its a shame that AT&T has denied the updates.
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You can do the update manually via Cab Sender but depending on what version of Windows Phone 7.x will depend on how many of the incremental updates you will need to do. You cannot simply jump from build 7720 to 8858 without setting up the others in sequence between the two builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37386343
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You can do the update manually via Cab Sender but depending on what version of Windows Phone 7.x will depend on how many of the incremental updates you will need to do. You cannot simply jump from build 7720 to 8858 without setting up the others in sequence between the two builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37386343
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Okay, thanks. Do you know if there's any way to port Android on Titan II? I've read few threads that say there isn't any way yet, but I'm still hoping there will be.
Sorry, how can I update the HTC Titan 2??? I can't find the files. Thanks
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You can do the update manually via Cab Sender but depending on what version of Windows Phone 7.x will depend on how many of the incremental updates you will need to do. You cannot simply jump from build 7720 to 8858 without setting up the others in sequence between the two builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37386343
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radians said:
Sorry, how can I update the HTC Titan 2??? I can't find the files. Thanks
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I don't have time tonight to chase the link but I assure you I posted it a few days ago within the Titan threads; all else fails Google it.
I will explain it today how to upgrade to 7.8. my phone it's 7.8 now.
radians said:
Sorry, how can I update the HTC Titan 2??? I can't find the files. Thanks
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I searched and tried the other day, go search for the "seven eighter", that's a software some nice guy wrote, and download it. I'll not search that for you, but it's very easy to find. Run that thing, and in the language pack, check(choose) every language for the US ATT HTC Titan II. That's what I have, again, this is true only for the ATT one because I only have that and I tried and it works, I can't say about any other variations. And continue, that Seveneighter will do all the rest for you, from 8112 to 8862, whole nine yard. You don't need to go find all the cabs yourself, what a life saver. I did the hard way for my Arrive when there's so such a nice script.
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I searched and tried the other day, go search for the "seven eighter", that's a software some nice guy wrote, and download it. I'll not search that for you, but it's very easy to find. Run that thing, and in the language pack, check(choose) every language for the US ATT HTC Titan II. That's what I have, again, this is true only for the ATT one because I only have that and I tried and it works, I can't say about any other variations. And continue, that Seveneighter will do all the rest for you, from 8112 to 8862, whole nine yard. You don't need to go find all the cabs yourself, what a life saver. I did the hard way for my Arrive when there's so such a nice script.
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Thank you very much! sorry for ask but really I don't understand so much about upgrades of the phone. I found the "seven eighter" here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2202393; do you have some problem with this update? sorry for ask, but I read in some post that some people have some issues with the cab from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815055.
Thanks for all!
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I will explain it today how to upgrade to 7.8. my phone it's 7.8 now.
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What? You have 7.8 on your Titan 2? Please share with us how it was done!
I have this phone too, and it seems like quite a few people do as well. XDA claims that there's not enough users to justify it's own forum, but I think if it did or at least had it in the title, more people/talent would be brought here to work on it.
I agree the Titan II is a decent phone, though little has changed from titan 1, they paid attention to minor details for incremental improvements on the mic, reception, among the bigger changes (new camera and LTE).
I would love to have this upgraded to 7.8 and with internet sharing, it would make this phone very, very useable!
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What? You have 7.8 on your Titan 2? Please share with us how it was done!
I have this phone too, and it seems like quite a few people do as well. XDA claims that there's not enough users to justify it's own forum, but I think if it did or at least had it in the title, more people/talent would be brought here to work on it.
I agree the Titan II is a decent phone, though little has changed from titan 1, they paid attention to minor details for incremental improvements on the mic, reception, among the bigger changes (new camera and LTE).
I would love to have this upgraded to 7.8 and with internet sharing, it would make this phone very, very useable!
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Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198382
ATT titan 2 updated from 7.5 to 7.8
ssnova said:
What? You have 7.8 on your Titan 2? Please share with us how it was done!
I have this phone too, and it seems like quite a few people do as well. XDA claims that there's not enough users to justify it's own forum, but I think if it did or at least had it in the title, more people/talent would be brought here to work on it.
I agree the Titan II is a decent phone, though little has changed from titan 1, they paid attention to minor details for incremental improvements on the mic, reception, among the bigger changes (new camera and LTE).
I would love to have this upgraded to 7.8 and with internet sharing, it would make this phone very, very useable!
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Hi, really I can't find any post here get me out my doubts about the process. I read a lot about it, and there were many people who had problems with some features like wifi, things that did not work after the upgrade; even on the process, someone were saying they had to select all languages others say that you must select only one; many questions for a newbie and with the danger of breaking the phone .
I was lucky to contact a friend of MVP who instructed me how to do it without problems; and he had the same phone and he already updated it.
The recomedacion he gave me were:
1. download the last seveneighter (latest version 7.8)
2. download the WP update tools, and install
3. remove the chip and run and update seveneighter
4. when asked about the language, I just select English and Spanish
the process takes me about 25min and everything worked perfect. all its functions works and did not lose any data from the phone (contacts, photos, apps). I hope you find it useful and get lucky. Just in case if I made a backup of everything.
Thanks to everyone!!!:good:
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Hi, really I can't find any post here get me out my doubts about the process. I read a lot about it, and there were many people who had problems with some features like wifi, things that did not work after the upgrade; even on the process, someone were saying they had to select all languages others say that you must select only one; many questions for a newbie and with the danger of breaking the phone .
I was lucky to contact a friend of MVP who instructed me how to do it without problems; and he had the same phone and he already updated it.
The recomedacion he gave me were:
1. download the last seveneighter (latest version 7.8)
2. download the WP update tools, and install
3. remove the chip and run and update seveneighter
4. when asked about the language, I just select English and Spanish
the process takes me about 25min and everything worked perfect. all its functions works and did not lose any data from the phone (contacts, photos, apps). I hope you find it useful and get lucky. Just in case if I made a backup of everything.
Thanks to everyone!!!:good:
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For 3., when you say "remove the chip", do you mean the back bottom piece of the phone? Or do you mean rip the phone a part and take out the soC? (I'm assuming it's the first thing)
For 4., when you say that you selected English and Spanish, is that just due to preference or must you select both for it to work correctly?
Lastly, that's awesome to hear that it works perfectly, when you say "all it's functions", does this include Nokia stuff too, and wireless internet sharing?
Thanks in advance, and thanks for sharing your experience!
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For 3., when you say "remove the chip", do you mean the back bottom piece of the phone? Or do you mean rip the phone a part and take out the soC? (I'm assuming it's the first thing)
For 4., when you say that you selected English and Spanish, is that just due to preference or must you select both for it to work correctly?
Lastly, that's awesome to hear that it works perfectly, when you say "all it's functions", does this include Nokia stuff too, and wireless internet sharing?
Thanks in advance, and thanks for sharing your experience!
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sorry, for 3 remove the chip from your provider ATT, Verizon or whatever. the idea is not have calls or data receive in the process.
for 4. you have many languages to select. I selected only Spanish and English 'cause I only use these languages.
what do you mean about nokia stuff??? I only have nokia drive installed and it works... I can't test internet sharing 'cause I can't enable this option; do you know how to enable it? Thanks in advance!
OK, I didn't try to select only one or two language packs, but I remember there's somebody said, you have to select all the language packs that your phone originally have, and I checked, ATT Titan II needs all language packs.
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OK, I didn't try to select only one or two language packs, but I remember there's somebody said, you have to select all the language packs that your phone originally have, and I checked, ATT Titan II needs all language packs.
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yes, i read these too. That because i don't want to do the upgrade, but i could contact a friend that have this pone too, and he do the upgrade and tell me how to do it right. So i update following the steps i mentioned some post ago and it Works fine. and i only select the 2 languages that i use.
I can't test the internet sharing because i don't know how, 'cause it's blocked in my phone.
radians said:
sorry, for 3 remove the chip from your provider ATT, Verizon or whatever. the idea is not have calls or data receive in the process.
for 4. you have many languages to select. I selected only Spanish and English 'cause I only use these languages.
what do you mean about nokia stuff??? I only have nokia drive installed and it works... I can't test internet sharing 'cause I can't enable this option; do you know how to enable it? Thanks in advance!
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By "Nokia stuff", I meant their gps navigation, their radio, and abunch of other cool preloaded apps, someone released a ROM like this for the HTC Titan 1, plus it unlocked internet sharing/tethering. Wish we had it on our phone, lol.
ssnova said:
By "Nokia stuff", I meant their gps navigation, their radio, and abunch of other cool preloaded apps, someone released a ROM like this for the HTC Titan 1, plus it unlocked internet sharing/tethering. Wish we had it on our phone, lol.
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sorry I only tested the nokia drive and it works fine.
Can you tell me to unlock Internet Sharing in titan2? thanks
radians said:
sorry I only tested the nokia drive and it works fine.
Can you tell me to unlock Internet Sharing in titan2? thanks
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Look on the bright side, at least you have LTE; the Titan I's only have at best HSPA+ but there's a catch to that too...AT&T thought it was in all our best interests to throttle our devices back so at best we might obtain 4 megs down but real world; not much greater than 1.5. Really nice of them to not tell us there throttled. I'm not aware there is a way to HSPL your devices and I'm not aware there are any ways to do it on any of the future Windows Phone 8 devices except if you happen to get your hands on a developer edition with the bootloader unlocked. I really like the Windows Phone platform but I'm fet up with the nonsense we have to go through to enjoy the full potential of them and for what reason they're as locked down as they are, I simply don't know the rationale behind it.