tq for everyone who read this post. i m currently using windows rom in hd2, since the android boot is not stable. but now something call "nand" came out n thats much more stable.
so now, can anyone tell me what's android over windows? n windows over android? i need some user's opinion.. tq very much for anyone who share with me =)
sry for bad english
You can run Android from your SD card, without losing your current installation of Windows Mobile. This is stable.
You can flash an Android ROM so that it replaces Windows Mobile. This is stable.
Chose which suits you best and then visit either the HD2 Android Development forum, or HD2 NAND Android Development forum to find out how to do it, once you've decided which you'd prefer.
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I just read in the XDA Portal that someone found a way to dual boot between two different Android Roms on one phone and ,well...i was wondering if this is possible with Windows. i have Miri N Dinik's Rom right now but say i wanted to try out Energy's Rom too...but keep my previous Rom. Is that doable or is there something special in Android phones that makes it possible?
fusion06 said:
I just read in the XDA Portal that someone found a way to dual boot between two different Android Roms on one phone and ,well...i was wondering if this is possible with Windows. i have Miri N Dinik's Rom right now but say i wanted to try out Energy's Rom too...but keep my previous Rom. Is that doable or is there something special in Android phones that makes it possible?
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To answer your question no its not possible to dual boot between 2 WinMo Roms. Android runs of partitions so you can install an Android Rom on different partitions and then select which partition to boot from. WinMo doesnt work like that.
Mark.
oooohhh o.k. thanks ! i need to hurry up and take these IT classes to further my computer and systems knowledge. January can't come soon enough. iv'e learned so much from just this site alone though..i think i'll have a bit of a head start when i do start class.
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oooohhh o.k. thanks ! i need to hurry up and take these IT classes to further my computer and systems knowledge. January can't come soon enough. iv'e learned so much from just this site alone though..i think i'll have a bit of a head start when i do start class.
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Just use xda as your reference guide and you will do fine lol.
Mark.
Hi,
About 2 weeks ago I downloaded the Android ROM for my HTC HD2, it works great, I really like Android more then Windows Mobile. Although everything works and seems fast enough, i have the feeling my phone can do more. If i look at videos of a HTC Desire HD it runs much faster, though the hardware is almost identical.
As I understood my phone is still running Windows Mobile but it is running in a state that emulates the hardware for a Android phone, so i can run Android. Now for my question, is there a way to run Android directly on my phone, without using Windows Mobile in the background?
Greetz Willem
williamsean said:
Hi,
As I understood my phone is still running Windows Mobile but it is running in a state that emulates the hardware for a Android phone, so i can run Android. Now for my question, is there a way to run Android directly on my phone, without using Windows Mobile in the background?
Greetz Willem
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this question is in the wrong section
ATM its not possible for none DEVS to run Andriod directly from you phone NAND memory.
DEVS are working on it but there are still some issues to solve before it will be launched you can follow the progression at the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817261
When you switch over to Andriod as a native OS you wont be able to run WM anymore, you can multi boot Android OS and Unbuntu of your SD, so if you want to use WM also then running Andriod of your SDcard is the only option
wilwilwel said:
this question is in the wrong section
ATM its not possible for none DEVS to run Andriod directly from you phone NAND memory.
DEVS are working on it but there are still some issues to solve before it will be launched you can follow the progression at the link below:
When you switch over to Andriod as a native OS you wont be able to run WM anymore, you can multi boot Android OS and Unbuntu of your SD, so if you want to use WM also then running Andriod of your SDcard is the only option
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Thanks for replying, what do you mean with ATM? and DEVS?
For what I understand from you post, they are working on a native android rom for the HD2, but it's not finished jet... And when I would install it i can't boot windows mobile anymore... Is that correct?
Will there be a posibility to revert my phone back to windows mobile when i would like to sell my phone...
-First winmo is shutdown when booting android.
-At the moment booting right from the hd2 memory is only possible with nand (from internal memory) . Wich is currently not for public release because it contains bugs.
-The reason why it is not at same speed as desire hd is that the kernel for the hd2 is not perfect and maybe nand can do a little speed increase. But it is getting better current kernels are much faster than a month ago.
ATM= At the moment
DEVS= Developers
PS: This is the wrong section.
jan-willem3 said:
-First winmo is shutdown when booting android.
-At the moment booting right from the hd2 memory is only possible with nand (from internal memory) . Wich is currently not for public release because it contains bugs.
-The reason why it is not at same speed as desire hd is that the kernel for the hd2 is not perfect and maybe nand can do a little speed increase. But it is getting better current kernels are much faster than a month ago.
ATM= At the moment
DEVS= Developers
PS: This is the wrong section.
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Witch section should it be in? Q&A or something? Can I change that right now?
What I understand is that it actually doesn't make a difference when I would boot android without windows mobile, only a minor speed increase because of faster memory? The real speed increase would come from a better kernel, witch the developers here are working on... Is that right?
Do you happen to know a ROM with this newer kernel? (so i can see if i already have it)
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Witch section should it be in? Q&A or something? Can I change that right now?
What I understand is that it actually doesn't make a difference when I would boot android without windows mobile, only a minor speed increase because of faster memory? The real speed increase would come from a better kernel, witch the developers here are working on... Is that right?
Do you happen to know a ROM with this newer kernel? (so i can see if i already have it)
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You can't change that right know but that is not a real problem. And what you are saying is right. We have to wait for a better kernel.
In terms of rom with kernel newer roms have most of the time newer kernels.
You can select [Everyday Builds][latest linux_on_wince_htc][PPP] CM6.1+ from michyprima this ones has no sense but are really speedy compared to sense builds. They use latest kernel. Anyway if you pickup a build from the last 7 days you can put any kernel that you want of it my favorite kernel at the moment is this. And contains a patch wich resolves screen freeezes wich happen sometimes. The most recent kernels are mdeejay S4 & hastrin r8.2. Or the CM6.1 build I said above because it have the latest kernel. The hastarin where I link you to contains the touchscreen freeze fix. Wich is not included in all hastarin 8.2 kernels.
jan-willem3 said:
You can't change that right know but that is not a real problem. And what you are saying is right. We have to wait for a better kernel.
In terms of rom with kernel newer roms have most of the time newer kernels.
You can select [Everyday Builds][latest linux_on_wince_htc][PPP] CM6.1+ from michyprima this ones has no sense but are really speedy compared to sense builds. They use latest kernel. Anyway if you pickup a build from the last 7 days you can put any kernel that you want of it my favorite kernel at the moment is this. And contains a patch wich resolves screen freeezes wich happen sometimes. The most recent kernels are mdeejay S4 & hastrin r8.2. Or the CM6.1 build I said above because it have the latest kernel. The hastarin where I link you to contains the touchscreen freeze fix. Wich is not included in all hastarin 8.2 kernels.
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Thnx for the reply, all is much more clear now...
I only have 1 more question, can update only the kernel of a ROM, so i don't have to install a hole new ROM and keep my preferences?
Yes that is also possible.
Is there something like a guide for it? url?
Installation:
1. Copy zImage to the "Android" folder on SD card
2. Copy "root" folder to "Android" folder on your SD card (overwrite files or combine when needed never delete the current one and replace it with the new one always overwrite files if folder structure already exists)
Sometimes the folder root is not included by the kernel then create
root/system/lib/modules
inside put :
tun.ko
bcm4329.ko
cifs.ko
and create:
root/system/lib/hw
lights.htcleo.so
If the file is not inside the package then don't create a folder for it. You should always have this file bcm4329.ko The rest is different for different kernels.
Edit:
You can download a kernel in different threads.
For example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831585
For example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787588
VBN files should also have latest kernel without tweaks but cant find it now.
Just like Dual boot for WP7 and Android on HD2 with MGRLDR, is it possible to create a WM6.5 build which is compatible with MGRLDR? Really tired of booting Android after the WM is up.
I didn't raise this question in Android forum because I think it should be WM related.
Well the DFT said a good while back that they were working on a Windows Mobile 6.5 SD card build. But no new news as of late on the state of this project, and I doubt that we will know until the day they release it.
But as of right now there is no SD card build that you can boot with MAGLDR like you can with Android while running WP7.
Also thanks for not posting in the Android florins but this should have been posted in either the HD2 General forum or the HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&Sand General forum as this as this is a development forum.
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Well the DFT said a good while back that they were working on a Windows Mobile 6.5 SD card build. But no new news as of late on the state of this project, and I doubt that we will know until the day they release it.
But as of right now there is no SD card build that you can boot with MAGLDR like you can with Android while running WP7.
Also thanks for not posting in the Android florins but this should have been posted in either the HD2 General forum or the HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&Sand General forum as this as this is a development forum.
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Thanks for your reply Maybe expect waiting for DFT we have no better ideas.
P.S. I was trying to move this post to the forum you referred to but I can't. Sorry for posted in a wrong forum. I think we should close this thread by now.
i have my hd2 running windows 6.5 and android,it boots up in windows then i go to the sd card and load android.
Compatible with MAGLDR and CWM (for quick backup/restore)
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Compatible with MAGLDR and CWM (for quick backup/restore)
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I saw your other thread concerning this, and I am sorry to tell you bit as of right now there is no way to boot Windows Mobile 6.5 except from NAND. Like I said in my first post in this thread. Until the DFT releases more information on their Windows Mobile SD card build, or release their Windows Mobile SD card build. We can only wait, maybe one day you will be whale to boot Win Mo with MAGLDR. But as for right now it is not possible.
Also CWM is strickly for Android as it is a Lenuix based program. It would be great if someone would come up with a similar program for Win Mo. But seeing as Win Mo has been out for so long and no one has come up with such a program (unless you count Microsoft My Phone or SPB Mobile Backup) and now Win Mo as much as I hate to say it is a swing OS. I doubt we will ever see such a program for Win Mo.
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i have my hd2 running windows 6.5 and android,it boots up in windows then i go to the sd card and load android.
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Currently I have the same configuration as you do, just tired of waiting Android to boot after WinMo boot.
The title says it all.
I don't know if you guys watch the latest news in the Android section (i hope so). One thread made me listening: NativeSD.
As far as im concerned, it comes down to emulating an internal rom space on a (preferably faster) microSD.
So: We have no WM6.5 sd-build. Why not installing a "normal" rom in ths NativeSD-space?
Would this work?
Greetings from Germany,
schousta
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The title says it all.
I don't know if you guys watch the latest news in the Android section (i hope so). One thread made me listening: NativeSD.
As far as im concerned, it comes down to emulating an internal rom space on a (preferably faster) microSD.
So: We have no WM6.5 sd-build. Why not installing a "normal" rom in ths NativeSD-space?
Would this work?
Greetings from Germany,
schousta
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AFAIK it's not possible yet. I know Cotulla posted on Twitter he was working on that. But I think bootloader won't support it, but I'm not sure
I assume that someone would still need to take apart the windows bootloader. That's what many here are waiting for. Haret is for linux build.
But I will jump in as soon as its ready to gogogo!
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If I remember correctly, Cotulla was done with making it possible to run Winmo on a SD card. He is just stuck (I guess) about figuring out how Winmo, Android, and I think WP 7 were going to share the same partition. My guess is its not working how he'd like so he put things aside and is working on other projects until new ideas or solutions come about in the future. What I'm wondering is why he just doesn't go ahead and release the Winmo SD by itself as I see he already made a DWI flasher for it already.
Hi everybody,
By advance, I apologies for the long post, but I thought it would be necessary.
I'm the proud owner of the S3 (GT-I9300), and I actually run on Darky Rom, with a few audio mods (beats, noozy, ...) installed, and I'm right now interested in DualBooting the smartphone, but I'm kinda lost between the kernels and Roms I could be needing, the way I could have a "GRUB" like on my smartphone that could let me choose the rom to load on machine boot, or anything else I should know.
I'm explaining myself : I chose the S3 for it's possibilities in terms of everything, I mean that the games are beautiful, the quad CPU not fully exploited in my opinion, and I wanted to know if I could virtualise OS like windows or linux inside that powerful device. I've been a [email protected] cruncher since 5 years, and I always thought that when people sleep, there is wasted power, that could be used for bitcoin, SETI, FAH, or any project like that... and beacause software for theses programms are on windows or linux, why not virtualizing them?
I'm a pentester too (backtrack... love that thing!) and I saw that the galaxy S2 wifi chip now have drivers for monitoring mode, but I still don't know if that is possible for S3, but I hope so :fingers-crossed: and I was planning on testing it on the phone, but I don't want to have a "non-phone" smartphone without an android on it.... So here came the dual booting idea...
And recently, I heard about this :silly: : ubuntu as primary phone OS
So I'm hanging on the news about that ubuntu, and so there is my problem :
I don't know what to do about all of this...
So, I'm gonna ask things clearly, now that I'm done speaking about my life:
1. Is there a way for me to install 2 (or maybe 3) OS at the same-time and being able to choose which is gonna launch ?
for example :
-1st ROM : Android stock ; 2nd ROM : Android Custom ROM;
or
-1st ROM : Custom Android ; 2nd ROM : backtrack ARM;
And for this, which ROMs or kernels should I use ?
2. Is there a virtualization solution on android, where Android is the HOST and some others The guests? (like a virtualbox or vmware player?)
And a few other questions :
3. Is there a thread on the forum where I could pick up the best MODS for the S3? (like a stack of mods maybe?)
4. Is there a way to theme Touchwiz by myself ? (like restyling the notifications like this : CM deus ex human revolution , or can someone help me seek all the already done Themes by telling me what to write in the search box ("touchwiz themes" or "TW theme" is not concluding).
5. which are, in your opinion, the best 3D games that shows the power of the S3 at it's best? (I'm seeking fun ^^)
Here! finished.
Thank you for reading, and please MOD, I beg your mercy for this post ^^.
Install Siyah kernel and you will get dualboot for two (or three with a mod) Android roms.
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