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Hi all,
I'm wonsering if true multitasking is possible...
I have been using the sgs2 for a few days now.and its.my first android.phone.
Im very happy with it but jus missing one feature...
When Im watching video in a browser or app Id like to be able to quickly do something else while the.audio keeps.playing.
Is this possible?
I do know that some apps have this featur (audio players etc.)
But id like to do this with the browser or cnn app
Greetings, dutchy
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I'm not sure if it would be possible, although the video is kept in memory, it has to close in order to open another app, I don't think you could have audio playing in background during a different application. My thought, though I'm still kinda n00b-ish with Android myself.
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It's possible for sure, but browsers intentionally pauses/stops playback when they're "minimized", because this is what most people want in most cases. I don't know any browser app which does run flash content in the background.
Shame there isnt an option for it, maybe its possible by editing some code?
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Coming from a Palm Pre (WebOS) I really hate multi-tasking on Android devices, switching from app to app sometimes doesn't even let you carry on where you started.
Bawezy said:
Coming from a Palm Pre (WebOS) I really hate multi-tasking on Android devices, switching from app to app sometimes doesn't even let you carry on where you started.
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Really, I've never had an issue switching between browser, sms, email, contacts and maps, all whilst listening to music.
As for video in the browser, Flash has been built to only run whilst in focus to stop the battery from draining when animation is running in a tab in the background.
To help the issue of multitasking, try installing wavelauncher on market. it is exactly like the wave launcher in webos. but it still wont fix the fact that android will close your program in the background when it needs more memory (which is why you have to restart from scratch when you "alt-tab" around)
I have a Palm Pixi Plus which I use for work email. No doubt WebOS is amazing when it comes to multi tasking, their ecosystem(h/w and s/w) should mature but I doubt if it can reach anywhere near Android. For that matter I doubt if M$ or RIM or Intel can ever achieve this.
I've been using Android for the past 2+ yrs. I must admit Android's muti tasking is rubbish. All we need is a simple button X (similar to Windows PC) to close any damn app than closing/killing in a different way in each app/phone. Its confusing at times. Good thing is Galaxy S II is a very good phone. A complete package must say..
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You guys misunderstood, i dont hate android's multitasking, in my opinion it doesnt match that of webOS as that was the mobile os where true multitasking was derived from. As gd as the android operating system is, Galaxy s2 is making me like android more.
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I've also noticed the problem when using sites like mega upload where you have to wait a certain amount of time before downoading a file. If the counter is on 30 seconds, I think I have time to check an e-mail or a few tweets while waiting, so I do that and when I come back to the browser the counter is still at 30 seconds...
It's usually not a big deal but I find it amusing that android fanboys made fun of iOS because it doesn't have true multitasking, although from what I can see android just saves the state of your apps and restores it when you go back to the app... it's OK in most situation but it's hardly multitasking.
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I've also noticed the problem when using sites like mega upload where you have to wait a certain amount of time before downoading a file. If the counter is on 30 seconds, I think I have time to check an e-mail or a few tweets while waiting, so I do that and when I come back to the browser the counter is still at 30 seconds...
It's usually not a big deal but I find it amusing that android fanboys made fun of iOS because it doesn't have true multitasking, although from what I can see android just saves the state of your apps and restores it when you go back to the app... it's OK in most situation but it's hardly multitasking.
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Most sites like that do this on the desktop now to keep your focus on their ads. Not sure if megaupload does but a lot do so i could just be this.
mark2222 said:
Most sites like that do this on the desktop now to keep your focus on their ads. Not sure if megaupload does but a lot do so i could just be this.
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Yes, this happens if you try the same on your computer too.
Huh ? Never happened to me on the computer but I'll check (it would make sense and seems doable w/ javascript), it could be that indeed.
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It's usually not a big deal but I find it amusing that android fanboys made fun of iOS because it doesn't have true multitasking, although from what I can see android just saves the state of your apps and restores it when you go back to the app...
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No, Android has true multitasking, but that doesn't mean every app should or have to use it, does it? If I browse through internet, I'm on a site with dynamic Flash/Javascript content and I exit browser then I want it to freeze any dynamic content to minimize power consumption. This is exactly what most of people want in most situations and this is why you have problems with Megaupload. It's possible to create a browser which will run Megaupload counter in the background, but no one has created one so far, because it wouldn't be that good.
You all should understand this isn't a technical issue, it's a design concern. If you switch/exit an app then OS (no matter: mobile or desktop one) has to do one of the following:
run it normally in the background
pause it
close it
give user a choice
Each of above has its pros and cons. Desktop OSes use first option, because they don't care about power and RAM consumption. They also use last option, because on a big screen, with mouse and full keyboard there is no problem to add such controls.
But using same solution on a phone would be a disaster, I think. Older mobile OSes use third option: they close app after exiting it, they don't have MT at all. iOS is somewhere between pause and close. Android is between pause and run: it pauses apps by default, but gives them a possibility to run in the background if they want. And this is a big difference between iOS and Android. On the iOS app can't run in the background even if both its developer and user want that. On the Android it depends fully on a developer choice.
What I want to say is: there is no single, perfect solution to this problem. If clicking "home" button would not pause an app by default then OS would be a piece of **** to me. Even if it would give me a possibility to easily pause/close an app - still POS. Pause should be a default action to make OS easy to use, so I think Android design is really good. One thing which could be done is to give more control to user. E.g. an option to resume/not pause an app on demand, so it will run similarly to foreground mode.
And how does work this awesome MT of webos (I don't really know)? Please, don't say it runs apps in the background by default - if so then sorry, but as I said it's a POS to me.
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And how does work this awesome MT of webos (I don't really know)? Please, don't say it runs apps in the background by default - if so then sorry, but as I said it's a POS to me.
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Multitasking on a WebOS, for those who haven't yet seen it: http://youtu.be/wZht-a0VlD8
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No, Android has true multitasking, but that doesn't mean every app should or have to use it, does it? If I browse through internet, I'm on a site with dynamic Flash/Javascript content and I exit browser then I want it to freeze any dynamic content to minimize power consumption. This is exactly what most of people want in most situations and this is why you have problems with Megaupload. It's possible to create a browser which will run Megaupload counter in the background, but no one has created one so far, because it wouldn't be that good.
You all should understand this isn't a technical issue, it's a design concern. If you switch/exit an app then OS (no matter: mobile or desktop one) has to do one of the following:
run it normally in the background
pause it
close it
give user a choice
Each of above has its pros and cons. Desktop OSes use first option, because they don't care about power and RAM consumption. They also use last option, because on a big screen, with mouse and full keyboard there is no problem to add such controls.
But using same solution on a phone would be a disaster, I think. Older mobile OSes use third option: they close app after exiting it, they don't have MT at all. iOS is somewhere between pause and close. Android is between pause and run: it pauses apps by default, but gives them a possibility to run in the background if they want. And this is a big difference between iOS and Android. On the iOS app can't run in the background even if both its developer and user want that. On the Android it depends fully on a developer choice.
What I want to say is: there is no single, perfect solution to this problem. If clicking "home" button would not pause an app by default then OS would be a piece of **** to me. Even if it would give me a possibility to easily pause/close an app - still POS. Pause should be a default action to make OS easy to use, so I think Android design is really good. One thing which could be done is to give more control to user. E.g. an option to resume/not pause an app on demand, so it will run similarly to foreground mode.
And how does work this awesome MT of webos (I don't really know)? Please, don't say it runs apps in the background by default - if so then sorry, but as I said it's a POS to me.
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Thanx for this very informative post.
And indeed I think the best solution would be for each app to have a default behavior as it is right now, but let the user force the app to keep running at all times if they need to for some reason and don't care about the performance hit.
Ty for all the info, but still, I just want the option to run some app normally in the background, its annoying when youre watching a movie and quickly need to check mail, i like having it playing on
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Intresting to me that good old WM 6.5 was true multitasking and could run for the best part of a week in standby Android in all it's forms, with background program managment, can barely do a couple of days !
Interesting in the video that I didn't see any evidence of true multitasking
Like some1 mentioned already, android is a multiple task/thread OS. So you can pretty much do anything. It's down to the developer. If you wanted music/vid to play in the background when not active in foreground tis easy to extend your application to have a service that constantly runs, and the app (UI) is just the controller. A good example of multitasking is seeing 2 things update where both are either critical data or processor intense. An example being your widgets update while live wallpaper is doing something. So to me, there is either multitasking or not, not really true multitasking. I think from the video of webOs I would call it a task/app/thread visual controller, and not a few words like "true multitasking".
Just my brain dumb on the issue
Hey guys,
Are there any (simple)tablet specific apps you guys would really like to see? I'm no star programmer(2nd year software eng. student with no experience before university) and I'm certainly not an android pro(really just got into android development in January) but I'll see what I can do. I've been working on some simple phone apps but I'd really like to get started with some apps for honeycomb.
If there are any fans of theoatmeal.com, I'm thinking my first honeycomb app will just be a simple viewer for his comics. Nothing complicated, just a list of comics on the side, with an image view which you can swipe to change panes in the comic and then some tabs at the top to filter(all, cats, grammar, food, animals, tech - just like on the website). I wish I could work on it this weekend but I'm leaving for my parent's in about half an hour and I don't have my laptop with me(just my galaxy tab 10.1).
Anyway, let me know what you'd like to see.
Automatic about :debug desktop view app.
A deviantart app so I can see images quicker and easier.
that's actually a good idea. It's really frustrating to have to put that in every time. Not sure how to do it exactly, but I doubt it would be too hard.
I've never used deviantart myself but that is something I could look into.
I'm thinking of trying to make an app that can send text messages when connected to a phone via bluetooth. Not sure if it will happen but it should be an interesting project. I was originally planning on doing it with google's push api but that would be more work and probably isn't necessary(do you really want to receive text messages on your tablet when it's not in range of your phone? I wouldn't).
That would be useful. Heck even away from the phone would be useful for many people. When "away" SMS gets forwarded to email or gv.
I believe blackberry playbook has a lot of functionality between phone and tablet. Anything to increase the handshake between android tablet phone would be great. Even if its a chrome2phone style sending a map or website back and forth.
Data recorder
For some reason the 3G watchdog app doesnt work correctly on my galaxy tab 10.1v. A working app designed for the tablet would be nice, unless other people have other suggestions I could try out.
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That would be useful. Heck even away from the phone would be useful for many people. When "away" SMS gets forwarded to email or gv.
I believe blackberry playbook has a lot of functionality between phone and tablet. Anything to increase the handshake between android tablet phone would be great. Even if its a chrome2phone style sending a map or website back and forth.
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On the desire hd stock msg application you can do this. Just press the menu button in the sms app and you get an advanced menu
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I should get my I/o tab next week so I'm not sure if these are in...
plants vs zombies hd
a working netflix
torch
google voice
I'm a student and would like to see more apps that I could use like the notebook app for the htc flyer. Something that looks professional and simple. Like having a word document on your tab. There's a few out there but none that are entirely convincing. From what i've heard there are apps for other tabs that can record lectures, have word recognition, among other really awesome things. Assus has a decent app for it too I guess, but i'd like to see it on the galaxy tab 10.1 forsure.
Get netflix to work on honeycomb!
jhild352 said:
Get netflix to work on honeycomb!
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x2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Give me an Android equivilent of pages, numbers and keynote. That's all I could ask for. And maybe faster speeds of the tab
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I really wish i was part of Swift Key VIP so i could get the swift key beta tablet keyboard. I would like a new keyboard 10.1, cmon no auto-prediction?
Also ive been trying to find a way to SMS for my tablet.
Vexorg said:
I really wish i was part of Swift Key VIP so i could get the swift key beta tablet keyboard. I would like a new keyboard 10.1, cmon no auto-prediction?
Also ive been trying to find a way to SMS for my tablet.
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You can turn the word prediction on in keyboard settings for Samsung's keyboard. it's called XT9 prediction. Even the stock honeycomb keyboard does have prediction.
I wasn't entirely convinced by the stock keyboard nor Samsung's keyboard so I bought Thumb Keyboard from the Market. I haven't looked back since
A Flipboard style app would be pretty nice, it's about the only app I miss from my iPad (besides Netflix & HBO Go).
Vexorg said:
Also ive been trying to find a way to SMS for my tablet.
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I'm developing an app just for this purpose. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133277
Netflix Netflix and Netflix please
oh and maybe Netflix?
Swype 3.0 is awesome on the SGT, few bugs but great features. I have a challenge for the college student. Create a lockscreen replacement for honeycomb where you can define app shortcuts to place around the unlock circle similar to the unlock icon and drag the smaller circle to each shortcut to launch the app. Similar to sense 3.0 but for honeycomb!
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I'm developing an app just for this purpose. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133277
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How does this compare to SMSSync? Can you post screenshots?
An app that can read ebooks and comics. Has a notepad feature and has flip page animation for all of them.
A decent effing sports app that has favorite teams, a working widget, and is usable in both portrait and landscape.
Hi folks,
i recently read an article about an app called WalkSafe. It basically uses an algorithm to detect incoming cars using the camera while you are walking on the street and calling. It basically can save your life So I wanted to download it form the market, but found out it was not compatible with the Wildifire. So I downloaded the app from some filesharing website (the app is free so no piracy ) and installed it. But it just forever hangs on the startup screen (when there appears a bar under the status bar with the name of the app). Is there a fix for this? Is it wildfire related or app related ? I couldn't find anything on the web so far...
Thanks in advance
So you are ready to give your life into the hands of an app algorithm rather than waiting for a bit and getting off the street for texting/calling? Whatever floats your boat.
Anyway, its most probably the app itself. The devs have probably not configured it for low end devices.
Its not that i will trust this app, i was just curious to see if it works. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion
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I am wanting to know if there is a PC program to assist in themeing android devices? For example, it gets kind of tiring decompiling apks, editing pngs/XML files, recompiling,zipping & flashing for a trial and error test and if it isn't how you wanted it you have to go through the edit process all over again. I am requesting a PC program where you could load an apk and it visually show you an android handset where clicking different parts and selecting different options is a factor (change color/change image/change font etc.) If there is something like this that already exists please point me in the right direction and I'm not talking about using someone else's already made theme either. Thanks
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as most of you may have probably learned .. windowsandroid lets you use android (I.C.S) in windows without emulation ... so i have side-loaded 2 or 3 apps but when i press them in windowsandroid .. it opens the app then suddenly closes it .. does this happen to you also ?? and how can i increase its resolution to run it in "tablet mode" ???
Someone help plz !
Maybe this'll help...a little
If you're into disappointment, maybe, that is.
I was interested in the same thing (among other things), with this emu (which, basically it is).
I found this Reddit post on the topic; basically, it says you should merely ADD the following line to the 'build.prop' file in the WindowsAndroid root folder--that's right, just ADD it, no reason to plug it in anywhere specific, or use it to replace anything there:
ro.sf.lcd_density=120
It's important to note, however, this is a density setting rather than a resolution setting, and so caused my own installation to show up in tablet mode, but, as I'm using an older low-res LCD Projector as my monitor (and, er, Windows knows this quite too well, BTW), my copy kept showing up with the screen out of registration--in fact, it looks like you're in 'settings', choosing between active screens (see my screenshot).
Ooops--my writing compositional skills must be lapsing, because--how do I know this stuff about your monitor res having anything to do with anything in this app?
Glad you asked!
An answer posted to a well-worded question that ended up on this site:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...in-socketeqs-windowsandroid/14885130#14885130
Note I reverse-answered his question with the same stuff I posted here--I'm so cheap!
So, for people using regular ole hi-res monitors, and not lower (pretty much 1024x768 for me, the trade-off being it's HUGE!) monitors, this may be okay for you.
Lol thx ... Have you tried side loading apps .. If yes do they work ?
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Turned-off notifications...sorry
Yarp...if you count merely dumping them into the '[root]\system\app' folder (methinks)...tried that the first night, and got so many that didn't work (even pretty simple, 'non-graphicky' ones) that I gave up on this OS that very first night...'til later...maybe.
Too much janky behavior from that otherwise very cool idea. I got into some other things temporarily--I'll look back in (some things in mind) in a week or so.
That thing was locking up pretty consistently every time I ran an app on it other than the 'system apps' that came with it...I was interested in trying out my favorite old news & weather app--the 'geniewidget.apk' I loved from Froyo on (see here), post by username VJKotts with attachment--worked for me!
I may have time to list apps that worked, and didn't, later today, but many of them are specific to me (like, my over-use of the Ulysse speedometer while driving my last car, which didn't have a working speedo, so, that was priceless!).
Some various media player apps are of interest to me, since I build HTPCs, and am getting into using the Android OS for the same purpose (with portability offered by the new Android mini PC's!)
Some reviewers of that thing are reporting tons of happy success with using them as basic HTPCs, and lots of people love XBMC and Plex (not me necessarily--I've had limited success with each of these, and resort to much simpler playback of my own 'Windows-Recorded TV' files using Skifta, so I'm happy with that app.
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Lol thx ... Have you tried side loading apps .. If yes do they work ?
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