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How does one do that if it's possible at all?
I'd like to have, say, Opera, stay open until I close it.
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dont use advanced task killer, or any task killer for that matter.
i would also like to know if this is possible. i would like to keep widgetlocker and 3G watch dog open at all times but when ever i use task manager to clear the memory, it closes both of them.
Dont use a task killer or manager but if you do normally they have a whitelist in settings so you can check any apps that you want to be left out of the task killer so they stay open.also can be called an "ignore list" too.if you go into settings you should see something that will be called whitelist or ignore list depending of course on what task manager you have as they are not all the same.check the apps that you want to be left alone and save.the next time you manually or automatically kill your apps the ones you have checked will not be touched.
unfortunately, the OOM built into android may close ANY app eventually, depending on the amount of available memory you have. the only real way to prevent it is to adjust the oom grouping and priorities of said app(s), also known as bullet proofing.
i would pm zeppelinrox regarding this, as he developed the v6 supercharger and has vast experience with this subject.
if u make sure u have enough free memory, then no application will be closed. If u have any application killer software then make sure to exclude the application from that software
I have kinda nooby question... i am using a phone with stock gingerbread and i am using an advanced task killer. I know a lot of people say that I shouldn't do it, but it just makes my phone a lot faster and smoother. As a noob, i have one question: is task killer really harmful to my phone and is it better for me to not use it? If you say yes, please provide me some specific reason why. Thank you ask much guys!
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its not that bad... but u should not kill background services!
keep settings on safe... don't use aggressive mode
applications u know u use often for example- browser or music player... u can add to excluded section... currently im using ZDBox and it works perfect... it also has additional features that you will need... hope this helps
I only use the ATK to kill an app that's not responding well.
For example, when I was using CM7, sometimes my Google Reader app would hang and display a loading symbol for a long time instead of displaying my articles, and the arrow that shows transmission over the network wasn't displaying so I knew it wasn't waiting on data, I would use ATK to kill ONLY Google Reader. Then I could go back into the app and it would load very quickly.
But since I switched to an ICS ROM, I haven't had that same issue and haven't had a need for ATK.
Also, do note that it does take processing power, and therefore battery power, when your phone decides to restart any of those apps you are killing, and it will restart apps.
For a great explanatory article, see here:
http://androidandme.com/2011/11/app...lers-still-dont-give-you-better-battery-life/
and also the links in the phrase "(see here, and here, and here)".
So in short, they are not exactly "harmful" but they don't provide any real benefit if you "kill everything, every time."
It is a common myth that more RAM = better performance, and this is a result of the market being dominated by Microsoft for so long. Android does not equal a desktop OS. Free RAM literally does nothing. In fact, it is wasteful to have bunch of free RAM. Android manages RAM very effectively and aggressively works to ensure that you have sufficient resources to do whatever it is you want to do. If you notice an increase in performance with a task killer, it is because you have a misbehaving app. Watchdog is the only task manager I would recommend, all it does is watch for apps that are using an abnormal amount of resources and alerts you. Part of the Android experience is the emulated multi-tasking, or having several apps saved to memory simultaneously to facilitate ease of switching between them. An app in the background will not affect the performance of your device, it is not using any resources. Aside from that, if you end a task, it will usually just start right up again, using more resources, because that is how Android is designed to work.
So, I would say finding the misbehaving app is a much better option than a task killer. They were important in eclair, maybe even FroYo. But anything above that they are unnecessary.
i dont really believe in android"s app managmentbut task killers make it only worst IMHO
I have to agree with member devator22.
Android is not Windows. Android is basically Linux and Linux is using a different memory management than Windows does. (Although Windows has got a lot of improvements during the last years)
RAM which isn't used, is wasted! That's a fact.
So, if you run a specific application, some of its data my be cached. Linux is reporting this as "buffered" (you can see the amount by running the 'top' command)
There might be a more or less big chance to hit this cache. If so, the data is loaded much faster ( definetly > 10 ) than if it had to be requested from the file system.
By killing your application by a task manger you are releasing this buffered resources (actually you are forcing the OS to release it). In the worst case you are wasting your advantage of loading already cached data from the RAM. In the best case you are gaining nothing because your device has to load it from the file system anyway.
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Get watchdog!
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Thank you so much for these replies! I really appreciate it! I decided to keep my task killer but not use it aggressively. I probably will use it to end apps that i really find it pointless. And also to the people who said android dies it's own task managing, you're right but wrong at the same time. When i didn't use my task killer, android did killed some apps in in order to launch more apps, but it left only like 10mb of 300mb, which i found little odd and also it mainly killed launchers which was very annoying.
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Task killer will speed up your phone if you know what you're doing. Only kill tasks that you are familiar with...e.g. apps that you know you have launched and won't be using anymore. Those apps running in the background can slow down your device.
If I'm on ICS, its better to use the bult-in task killer, or download one from the market?
Guys, he's not saying he does it for the memory. He says the phone's smoother. I don't know whether this is true, but if there are background tasks performing operations that he doesn't want them to do, it's *absolutely appropriate* to kill them.
The flip side of that is that the applications will eventually be automatically started again, and that startup takes extra CPU time. As long as the process startup and process killing happens when the screen is off, I would think this could improve the responsiveness.
But I think on most people's phones, the background processes really don't use a lot of CPU...
I know by default even Gbs memory management isn't the best. The app priorities are a bit weird aand the launcher gets killed to easily. Running the v6 supercharger scripts and making the launcher hard to kill and fixing the priorities and changing the oom settings makes any from wicked fast
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Instead of killing an app over and over again install something like Gemini App Manager and disable the app's autostart permissions. For example, dropbox and dropbox sync are set to automatically start at boot or when there's a connectivity change. I understand why they're set to do that but for my purposes I only needed them to start when I actually used them.
Having said that, I no longer use Gemini and have never used an automatic task killer. I think android (ICS) does a good enough job managing it's memory that I don't need to be anal about micromanaging it myself. I think it also helps that I'm not an appaholic. I'm very picky about what I install and will only keep an app installed if I regularly use it.
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If I'm on ICS, its better to use the bult-in task killer, or download one from the market?
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Built-In is much better
im on ics on my captivate and it runs beyond smooth
like stated before having free RAM with not do anything
android has a good way of muti tasking
Hi, after reading some information on the internet I have seen people have said that task killers dont help at all and it doesnt help save battery either. Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks
Alot of apps that you see running in Task Killers are apps that are on pause in the background.
What happens alot of the time if you kill them, that they restart again in a couple of seconds. And apps that are restarting the whole time will cost you more battery that just some apps on pause/sleep in the background.
So as far as i know, these days Task Killers dont help at all, they can even make it worse.
*If i am totally wrong about this, enlighten me*
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Alot of apps that you see running in Task Killers are apps that are on pause in the background.
What happens alot of the time if you kill them, that they restart again in a couple of seconds. And apps that are restarting the whole time will cost you more battery that just some apps on pause/sleep in the background.
So as far as i know, these days Task Killers dont help at all, they can even make it worse.
*If i am totally wrong about this, enlighten me*
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Agreed, I personally haven't seen an improvement in the past and there are a number of articles that say they are un-needed.
It's not needed because Android, having the Linux base, has good memory management which is different from Windows.
Thanks for this. As on my last android phones I spent about 10 minutes a day killing apps.
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Alot of apps that you see running in Task Killers are apps that are on pause in the background.
What happens alot of the time if you kill them, that they restart again in a couple of seconds. And apps that are restarting the whole time will cost you more battery that just some apps on pause/sleep in the background.
So as far as i know, these days Task Killers dont help at all, they can even make it worse.
*If i am totally wrong about this, enlighten me*
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You are right. Killing apps will make things worse. With the exception of an occasional rogue app, which can be killed fromt the default app management offcourse.
I hardly ever kill an app. Generally it's not necessary.
Guys kindly share ur experience here.what is the best task manager fir better RAM optimization in your view?
I do not recommend using any task killer for any android phone. Here *read and learn*, but if you really want to use one then just monitor the app that is unnecessarily eating your cpu using watchdog and manually kill it otherwise 'task killers' will take up your phone's resources.
Android is totally different compared to windows... Android don't ever need task killer! Just leave it to be, it'll auto optimize...
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task killers like people said are not recommended.
but that doesnt mean that you cant use it, you still can use it daily actually.
my favorite and the best task killers out there in the market are Advanced Task Killers
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5yZWNoaWxkLmFkdmFuY2VkdGFza2tpbGxlciJd
+1 to what above users said.Killing an app will only make it load again which consumes battery.
Killing tasks in Android is generally not recommended but if you really want a task killer, Advanced Task Killer does the job well.
Thanx alot all u bro.i m using memory booster.i works like a charm for me...
I use Quick System Info and Advanced Task Manager but the apps will automatically restart after being killed and this procedure even cost more CPU usage. I also use the built-in "Running services" setting but it's not so effective either, sometimes forcing an app to stop won't free more memory.
Apps in android work like this. Say you are running Google Maps.
-Android: Ok he's using maps, lets use some of the ram.
-Android: Oh he stopped using maps, ill just empty the app from the RAM but ill keep some information here in case he wants to run it again, plus maps still needs to do something so ill keep some info for it.
Now if you put a task manager to kill the remaining information (which is close to 0 in size) you add this.
-Android: Hey where did the info for google maps go? Oh darn i guess ill have to load the app again from scratch and use additional ram.
So all in all it ends up being counterproductive. Task killers worked on 2.2 and earlier versions. On 2.3 its almost automatic.
If you're looking for better ram managment, i suggest you try the V6 Supercharger Scripts.
I agree with the post above.
Using task manager actual result is slower and higher battery usage.
I use V6 Supercharger also, it changes the minfree amount, that is how much RAM has to be available minimal always.
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Yeah... I totaly agree with dumraden... Android is very good at managing RAM on ots own...
If u kill an app, it will only cause unnecesary load on the CPU...
Btw very good explaination man...
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Hi,
Although I have red all the relevant posts, in XDA, I can not come to a final conclusion "Which is better".
So I have installed all four of them.
So my Samsung I9100 has the following task killers:
Go
Auto Killer Memory
System Tuner pro
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ROM Toolbox
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Titanium Backup Pro
I Thing it is too much.
Any Advice what to through away would be helpful for me.
Your post seems to boil down to what is the best task killer. If that is the question you're asking, remove all of them and don't look back.
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Your post seems to boil down to what is the best task killer. If that is the question you're asking, remove all of them and don't look back.
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Thanks for the immediate reply,
Ok, Task killing is one of my thoughts, but Titanium Backup and System Tuner Pro and ROM Tool have many other uses and some of them do task killing.
all of task killers r killers themselfs.....so if u need data+sys apps backup than titanium is wat i use,allthough there r otha similiar apps too in market for free...my personel exp is there is no proper app to save batt and task manger tht do tht cause a logic they run in background...install betterbatterystats to see wats draining ,very usefull......cheeeerz
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all of task killers r killers themselfs.....so if u need data+sys apps backup than titanium is wat i use,allthough there r otha similiar apps too in market for free...my personel exp is there is no proper app to save batt and task manger tht do tht cause a logic they run in background...install betterbatterystats to see wats draining ,very usefull......cheeeerz
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So you propose to through away the task killers?
Perhaps a silly question how the system deals with the tasks without a task killer?
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So you propose to through away the task killers?
Perhaps a silly question how the system deals with the tasks without a task killer?
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nah if u want u can use but i neva use then cause they neva stop
snest said:
So you propose to through away the task killers
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Yes.
snest said:
Perhaps a silly question how the system deals with the tasks without a task killer?
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Do a search with your favourite search engine for "android task killers". Read and understand the results.
TB for backup and freezing .
Task Killer not required it is Android not Windows .
But if you think you need a task killer stick with the four of them and be dead as can be .
jje
Ok,
I Understood that
. task killers are not necessary
. Titanium Backup remains (either way it was my decision)
What about System Tuner Pro and ROM toolbox?
Is it Ok to keep both or.....?