I recently bought a Droid 2 Global and decided to get my feet wet with android development. To familiarize myself with the platform I wrote a simple utility for managing the bloat that came pre-installed on my phone. I thought there might be other people who would get some use out of this so I am posting it here. You will need to be rooted and have busybox installed to use this application. If you used z4root to root your phone then you should have everything you need.
The application is pretty simple. When you start it you are presented with a list of the Bloat that the application recognizes. Each item in the list has a checkbox that indicates whether it is enabled or not. To disable bloat you just uncheck the boxes next to what you don't want and then press the Apply button that appears at the bottom of the screen. You can save what you have disabled as a profile by pressing the options button and then choosing Save Profile. This is convenient because you are going to need to turn all of this bloat back on if you want to receive updates. If you have saved a profile and a new update becomes available you can launch Bloat Manager, press the options button, choose Enable All and then click Apply to get your phone ready for the update. After the update installs you can launch Bloat Manager, press the options button, choose Load Profile and then click Apply to turn the bloat back off.
The following applications can be toggled on or off using Bloat Manager:
Amazon MP3 /system/app/amazonmp3_1_8_14_signed_zipaligned_Signed_2010-09-09_15-23-51.apk
Blockbuster /system/app/Blockbuster.apk
City ID /system/app/CityID.apk
Friend Feed /system/app/FriendFeed.apk
Kindle /system/app/Kindle-1_0_2-OEM-SingleSign_Signed_2010-09-20_17-31-57.apk
My Net /system/app/Mynet.apk
My Verizon /system/app/MyVerizon.apk
News Widget /system/app/NewsWidget.apk
Performance Manager /system/app/PerformanceManager.apk
Skype /system/app/Skype_mobile.live.apk
Social Messaging /system/app/SocialMessaging.apk
Social Share /system/app/SocialShare.apk
VZNavigator /system/app/vnav_6.1.0.160_Droid2Global_rel_PROD_signed.apk
Visual Voice Mail /system/app/Vvm.apk
Weather Widget /system/app/WeatherWidget.apk
World Clock Widget /system/app/WorldClockWidget.apk
When you disable an application using Bloat Manager it simply renames it to .bak. When you re-enable an application it is renamed back to .apk.
Bloat Manager remounts your /system partition as writable in order to make changes to applications. I came up with this list based on what other people have had success with removing, but I have not personally turned off everything on the list. Changing things in your system partition is always dangerous so please be careful.
So this only renames the app filenames? Is the app still affecting the phone in any way (ie. sucking battery life) once it is renamed, or is it completely "disconnected" from the phone until you rename it back to .apk for updates/etc.?
Thanks I will try this out soon.
Correct, this simply renames the apps so that they are no longer recognized as launchable applications. The applications will not be able to run anymore after they are renamed so they will not affect your battery life directly. I have heard that the operating system will continually try and restart some apps if they get renamed, but based on what people are saying in the bloatware removal script thread on droidforums where I got this list of applications none of these should have that problem.
Let me know how it goes.
The application works, any chance you might add more programs to the list?
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Are there any specific applications you would like to see added? I designed it so that the list can be extended but I haven't implemented an easy way to add things yet. If you know your way around a SQLite database you can add new items to the Bloat table to put them in the list. I plan on adding an import feature that lets you add a group of applications from a file in the near future.
Well some programs I can do without are files, car dock, backup assistant, the social networking widget, and news and weather, if you can find a way to ad the .bak extention to them without it hurting the system, it would be greatly appreciated
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wtb one for sprint phones, i.e. the Epic 4G
Great solution, how about a "Bloat Manager for Samsung Galaxy S" next ?
How about a general android bloat manager?
General Android bloatware app would be a major win!
The way you implement (renaming to .bak) is brilliant in it's simplicity, well done. I'm curious how it compares to the 'freeze' function of Titanium backup. Anyone?
^^^That's what I want to know too.
i am just wondering but would this work on other phones like the HTC Droid ERIS or any other devices???
Any chance you can port this to the Droid X? Also, do you need to be rooted to use it, or does it work on stock devices?
same quest
rusty815 said:
...any chance you might add more programs to the list?
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...are these Bloats removeable too?
-Stocks
-Amazon
-Soundhound
-Setup
-facebook
-htc hub, likes etc.
-latitude
-anything from google (maps locations, navigation etc., etc.)
-peep, twitter etc. any social network sh..
-speech saerch
-talk
-connected media
Any chance for a G1 or G2 version?
I plan on making the next version a lot more flexible in terms of which phones it will be useful for. If you guys can get me a list of which apps can safely be removed from your phones I can add them to the next version.
Technically this version should run on other phones so long as they are rooted and have busybox installed in /system/bin. If your phone has some of the same bloat that comes on a Droid 2 Global you may be able to use this to remove it. Any applications that the program cannot find when it starts will have a ! on the front of their names in the list. Bloat Manager won't be able to turn those off.
I installed this and chose disable all, and clicked apply. The applications can still be opened. Skype still shows that it is running even after I force stop it.
LOL...installed on my G1....all apps had the !
Uninstalled. Thanks!
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LOL...installed on my G1....all apps had the !
Uninstalled. Thanks!
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Lol, its meant for the bloat on the d2g and d2, I'm pretty sure the g1 doesn't have any of the apps that are on the list
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MrFrankfromCM said:
Any chance for a G1 or G2 version?
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If your looking for away to remove bloatware on the G2 go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
super easy did it myself.
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like widgets? such as "apmobiles", seems to be a newspaper sort of thing i will never read. i also can't uninstall social/music/gaming/book hubs? i'm in the setting/applications/manage applications bit.
i want to basically delete a LOT of apps then only install what I need? i'm new to smartphones, moved from a nokia keypad phone. so the galaxy s2 was a massive jump for me.
Have a search for titanium backup and root. You'll need to root your phone 1st before you can 'freeze' but not remove apps.
The phone is brand new and it will take a while before custom roms that let you remove apps are available.
If I were you I'd wait before rooting as it is still a bit complicated and simpler methods will come along soon, I'm sure. I'd use the time to read the guides and get familiar with the phone.
Bear in mind that rooting/custom roms will lose you your warranty. Also, I'm not too worried about app removal as the phone has plenty of memory for my needs. Just remove the apps you don't want from the home screen and put on the ones that you do.
Edit: just wanted to clarify that I was referring to removing pre - installed apps.
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Thanks for that, it's that I also noticed that there are services running in the background from applications that I'm not using, like I have the apmobile service running and also a social hub service running even neither is open. And I at least want to remove app shortcuts from the menu.
You'll need to root and freeze to remove the shortcut from the app drawer. I really wouldn't do that until you've read up and are confident though.
There are other threads about the social hub, have a search. I think you'll need to reset the phone and then not add any accounts if you want to stop it from being active.
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To add-up about removing the widgets (probably you've found it already though), you only need to hold down the widget and slide it down to an area says remove
this phone comes with a built in task manager and a widget that shows you active tasks, i use the widget on my phone's desktop to close apps as needed ( i know the phone can handle it but its just my own thing lol ) and from there, there's a tab that lets you uninstall apps as well.
ofcourse you wont be able to uninstall those that came with the phone just yet.
I rooted mine which was dead easy and was my first time so you'll be fine. Download AntTek app manager from the market its free and lets you freeze, delete and backup any apps and widgets you want. You will no longer have any of those crap apps working in the background draining your battery. Hope this helps.
Edit: Oh yeah the built in task manager doesn't show system apps working in the background or at least not all so well worth freezing or removing them.
Has anyone compiled a list of the safe-to-remove apps for the AT&T GSII along with corresponding .apk filenames, yet? I've already removed a number of them via Root Explorer, using the list of removed apps from Cognition's rom, but there's a couple that still remain and I'm wondering if they're ok to remove or not. A full list would be best, though I'm mainly wondering about:
Kies Air
Featured Apps
Social Hub
AT&T Hot Spots (doesn't show in app list, but still shows as a running app for me)
Don't know...I saw that AT&T Hot Spots wasn't actually in the drawer but it shows up as a running app too. I don't plan on removing Kies Air or the Social Hub (for the moment) but I'd like to remove "Featured Apps" but when I go into Titanium Backup it'll ask me if I'm sure I want to do this since it's part of the framework so I've backed off of it for now...I'd like to know about these 4 apps and if they're safe to remove as well.
I used root explorer and did it manually. I lost count how many I ripped out.
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I would like to keep a running list of AT&T-delivered apps from the stock ROM that are safe to freeze/uninstall without causing any loss of essential functionality.
Amazon Kindle
AP Mobile
AT&T Code Scanner
AT&T Family Map
AT&T Hotspots (if you do not use it)
AT&T Navigator
Buddies Now
City ID
Digital Clock
Dual Clock
Featured Apps
Live TV
Media Hub (not AT&T Bloatware, rather Samsung-delivered)
Mini Diary
Mini Paper
QIK Lite (if you do not use stock video chat)
Yahoo Finance
YP
If you have any apps that you have removed and run problem free for at least 48 hours, please let me know and I will update the list.
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From this thread.
Honestly I'd recommend installing Titanium Backup and doing a backup before you remove ANY apps. You simply never know if you might need them down the road for something. Sure 99% of the AT&T crap is crap, but there's no reason not to back them up first.
Also, if you're worried about it, buy the PRO version (of TB) and simply freeze ones you don't want to use. This isn't deleting them, it simply disables them.
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Honestly I'd recommend installing Titanium Backup and doing a backup before you remove ANY apps. You simply never know if you might need them down the road for something. Sure 99% of the AT&T crap is crap, but there's no reason not to back them up first.
Also, if you're worried about it, buy the PRO version (of TB) and simply freeze ones you don't want to use. This isn't deleting them, it simply disables them.
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I have the PRO version. I know about freezing but I was being lazy and I know there are much more adventurous people than me who've gone ahead and ripped things out. I didn't want to do the freeze app, okay seems safe to remove, repeat per next app deal. Like I said, I'm lazy...
Some of these At&t apps i cant find under root explorer, for example featured apps. what would be the file name for featured apps?
re: bloat/system apps
Smoghog said:
Has anyone compiled a list of the safe-to-remove apps for the AT&T GSII along with corresponding .apk filenames, yet? I've already removed a number of them via Root Explorer, using the list of removed apps from Cognition's rom, but there's a couple that still remain and I'm wondering if they're ok to remove or not. A full list would be best, though I'm mainly wondering about:
Kies Air
Featured Apps
Social Hub
AT&T Hot Spots (doesn't show in app list, but still shows as a running app for me)
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If you want to uninstall even more bloatware you need to get the app called
"SystemAppRemover" from the market. (everything will show up with this).
It makes it very easy to uninstall most any system apps.
The app has other functions too.
It's also best to flash a Nandroid backup of your rom before uninstalling
bloatware/system apps.
(use CWM Manager or CWM Recovery and NOT rom manager for backing up).
Good luck!
I downloaded an app called App quarantine from the market and put the following apps in the don't run bin , but before doing that I downloaded Go Launcher / Go Contacts / Go Sms Pro and did a ehh, conversion from the stock samsung apps to Go Stuff. Has anyone else done this or anything similar?
Apk's no longer running on boot
(See screen shots, i'm lazy today.)
jb0nd38372 said:
I downloaded an app called App quarantine from the market and put the following apps in the don't run bin , but before doing that I downloaded Go Launcher / Go Contacts / Go Sms Pro and did a ehh, conversion from the stock samsung apps to Go Stuff. Has anyone else done this or anything similar?
Apk's no longer running on boot
(See screen shots, i'm lazy today.)
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There are a number of apps that do the same type of thing, Titanium Backup will 'freeze' apps as well as a whole host of additional features.
Then of course, another option is to just rename the apps from *.apk to *.bpk and rebooting.
My personal preference is a third option called Autostarts which is similar to MSconfig in Windows but for Android. The reason being is, it gives you the ability to keep an app from ever running unless you actually tap the app to run it but still allows you to keep the app installed in the event you want to use it. Google Maps comes to mind, I want it installed, I dont want it running in the background.
I dont recommend removing any of the bloatware if you plan on staying on stock but, some of it for US Note users was able to be uninstalled without root via either Settings->Applications->Manage Applications->All Applications, then tap an app and see if uninstall was lit up, if so, sweet. Or, alternatively you could go thru the Market->(Menu Key)->My Apps but not all apps show up in this list. As a side note, I actually manually did a search for many of the apps on the phone and manually updated them because they were not showing up in the market 'My Apps' list.
One other side note, most of the Samsung apps are actually pretty decent, I usually dont touch them. Its the ATT software and the apps ATT took bribe money from third parties that bothers me (Yellow Pages for example).
Oh, and a little known feature of Go Launcher is the ability to hide apps.
Tap the App drawer icon to get to the list of apps on your phone, tap the menu button, tap hide apps. For those of us that havent bothered to root, this at least gives you the ability to not have to look at apps you dont want to see in the app drawer.
Wow thank you for all the info. As far as staying stock, I like making my devices unique to me, I did keep all spen related apps, but killed pretty much everything else. I doubt my phone will ever see an official release of anything, Xda all the way
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There are a number of apps that do the same type of thing, Titanium Backup will 'freeze' apps as well as a whole host of additional features.
Then of course, another option is to just rename the apps from *.apk to *.bpk and rebooting.
My personal preference is a third option called Autostarts which is similar to MSconfig in Windows but for Android. The reason being is, it gives you the ability to keep an app from ever running unless you actually tap the app to run it but still allows you to keep the app installed in the event you want to use it. Google Maps comes to mind, I want it installed, I dont want it running in the background.
I dont recommend removing any of the bloatware if you plan on staying on stock but, some of it for US Note users was able to be uninstalled without root via either Settings->Applications->Manage Applications->All Applications, then tap an app and see if uninstall was lit up, if so, sweet. Or, alternatively you could go thru the Market->(Menu Key)->My Apps but not all apps show up in this list. As a side note, I actually manually did a search for many of the apps on the phone and manually updated them because they were not showing up in the market 'My Apps' list.
One other side note, most of the Samsung apps are actually pretty decent, I usually dont touch them. Its the ATT software and the apps ATT took bribe money from third parties that bothers me (Yellow Pages for example).
Oh, and a little known feature of Go Launcher is the ability to hide apps.
Tap the App drawer icon to get to the list of apps on your phone, tap the menu button, tap hide apps. For those of us that havent bothered to root, this at least gives you the ability to not have to look at apps you dont want to see in the app drawer.
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Just to add I guess a 'fourth' option, I like to use the app 'root toolbox' available on the market with both free and pro versions. Under the advanced menu you can remove any system apps you like but the nice thing is anything you remove is automatically backed up to the root toolbox folder on the internal sd. The backup is done automatically so you dont have to worry about removing something and forgetting to backup first and also gives you the option to restore any system apps you removed simply and easily. Ill be honest the restore feature has saved my bacon many times lol and is also a great way to experiment which apps are safe and unsafe to remove.
If it matters, mine is a P509 - my question is whether any of you have found, short of custom ROM, a way to remove bloat apps, or freeze them effectively, given a stock LG ROM? I run kernel 2.6.32.9 and it is very stable. just wanting to free up cycles and memory
the reason I can't get along with custom ROM is the lack of wifi calling [that is, the way it is supposed to work, via T-mo]
Will Titanium Pro do this? any nasty side effects?
root - delete the apps.
TiBackup - freeze or delete.
All of these work. I just test-searched this subforum for remove bloatware and was rewarded with an abundance of information. This also contains info on the likeliest followup question, "what apps can I remove?".
FWIW, I find greatest stability and battery life on a sanitized stock ROM but run CM7 on principle. I use Google Voice + Groove IP for my wifi calling needs. Works fine and doesn't eat TMO voice mins.
I just go to system/app and delete the apps or "bloatware" that you dont need, titanium backup does the same but you have the option to freeze. If you want to get rid of it quick and easy just go to system/app and delete the app you want gone. Be careful what you delete, stay away from system apps that your phone will need. I would make a backup first before you start deleting just to be safe hope this helps
you are my man! i use the same plan with T-mo - do everything I can on wifi, keep data turned off 90% of the time, send pics via GoSMS Pro...
Thank you both, fratermus and 'droid311 for the help.
If you don't mind let me list a few that I ASSUME I can safely remove - if you see something dangerous pls let me know
- Drivesmart
- Telenav
- thinkfree office
- visual voicemail
- Voice Search
- web2go home
- Pacman demo [good grief]
- places
- latitude
- fm radio [never worked]
- dinerdash
- doodle
ok fire away
btw - re: titanium does the freeware version do the trick or the upgrade?
I'll have a look at system/root - not an expert su by any means
fratermus said:
root - delete the apps.
TiBackup - freeze or delete.
All of these work. I just test-searched this subforum for remove bloatware and was rewarded with an abundance of information. This also contains info on the likeliest followup question, "what apps can I remove?".
FWIW, I find greatest stability and battery life on a sanitized stock ROM but run CM7 on principle. I use Google Voice + Groove IP for my wifi calling needs. Works fine and doesn't eat TMO voice mins.
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OK, friends I got it rolling now. handful of that stuff uninstalled.
could I bug you for just a couple of specifics?
- Keyboards: I have been running the Gingerbread keybd for awhile and like it well enough - the handset still has he original keyboard installed. is it safe to uninstall/remove that or is it involved with the core ROM?
- Similarly, I seem to have three Messaging things stacked: there is the original which I guess was on the handset from the edge: there is an Update to the stock Messaging app, then there is GoSMS Pro which is what I actually use. Is it safe to uninstall the other/stock messaging apps?
- Maps [latitude] is a pig - it loads three modules at powerup and I never even use it [my eyes and that screen with ddetailed maps,, no worky well]. safe to remove? answer seems to be yes.
that's all. I am a happy camper
Are you running cm7?
-You would probaly get a foreclose if you delete it, I would go into play store (android market) and find the keyboard you want, download it and push it to system/app then delete the old gingerbread key board.
-I wouldnt move/delete the stock messaging apps because I think (not positive) but gosms pro would need your stock messaging app to run off of.
-yes maps can be safe to remove
-Also reading your list of your bloat ware, they all can be deleted safely with no harm
thank you so much!
no, i'm running 2.2 LG rom and it is so stable I am ok to stay here, especially because WIFI calling works like butter... excellent.
uninstalled maps, finally - nothing else would stop it from loading up. no harm done, as you indicated.
all this has managed to free up about 35% of the meager ROM.
I guess this is about as good as it gets if one retains wifi calling, gmail/voice, and basic decent apps like a good media player, maps [that is, 3rd party], sms/mms, memos, calendar, reminders, notifier[missed message flasher the only one I have found that actually works]
No problem man, make sure you always backup
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[Cruzer] said:
Since your the guru on most things. Wondering if you an direct me/tell me, to a best practice on how to debloat H932. Since there really is no debloated stock rom available. Really need wifi calling so can't go to any of the aosp roms.
Also I moved over to Nova Launcher as you suggested in one of my posts.
Thanks for the help.
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Well, I'm not a guru on most things. But I do try to help. I'm not a dev, so people like @runningnak3d or @seadersn know lots more than me.
Before I answer your question about debloating, for Nova launcher I found an icon pack I like on Google Play. I applied it to "convert" all my icons to that look. I also use the "cube" screen turn, and the reverse parallax view where my background image moves with the screen turns. I also put shadows under my icon labels to give them more a 3D look.
For "debloating", Titanium Backup is best or even Greenify (hear me out) -- depending on your goal. Yes, you can force uninstall any app, even system app. Simply change system app to user app, then uninstall. There's even a "bloatware melter" (or something like that) you can invoke in Titanium Backup. Of course, make very good backup(s) with TWRP.
1) I'm not sure what all "bloatware" (added apps) comes with H932, as the carrier unlocked US998 doesn't have much. Look for social media apps you don't use, maybe media streaming services you don't use. On my US998, I DO use Pandora, I DO use Facebook. I've kept Twitter, but I've never used Instagram and probably never will. However, since it's a system app, removing won't really help me free up space (unless I am misunderstanding that LG uses protected system space). Freezing via Titanium Backup might be better.
But first let's discuss bloatware... Somebody said this in another thread:
Things like Hangouts, Keep, Play Games, Play Books, Play Newstand, Google+, Maps, and a handful of other things I consider bloatware. Just because it's from Google doesn't mean it's wanted and doesn't mean it should be pre-loaded.
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I don't agree with him. I use Hangouts every day. It's my SMS app, as I have Google Voice. I use Maps every day, my wife uses Keep everyday. So, bloatware to everyone is different.
2) What is the goal? Reclaiming RAM or reclaiming space on the phone? "User apps" can be uninstalled to reclaim space, and while you CAN uninstall system apps, (to my knowledge) it doesn't help you reclaim user space. With few exceptions when you install something else, it's going to user space, not protected system space. Emptying out protected system space is decluttering the tool shed when you really want more space in your kitchen.
If you simply want stuff to stop running in the background, it's often better to freeze it in Titanium Backup or "hibernate" it with Greenify. If you freeze it and find out it's NEEDED, you can unfreeze it. Hibernate with Greenify means it won't run unless opened, and when closed will be hibernated again.
In one of the "package disabler" threads, somebody published a list of stuff you can remove from LG V30 and it was horrendously stupid. "Can" does not mean "should" -- unless you want to break basic functionality of the phone or want to remove a lot of the premium features.
This below is a conversation from that "package disabler" thread:
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***WARNING*** Some of these apps are ABSOLUTELY necessary. It would be very useful to go through this list and define what absolutely every one of those items are, as I have already found one that is absolutely essential to the basic functionality of the phone.
After having gone through a LOT of other things trying to determine why my SD card was not working with non-google apps, though google apps had no problems with it, and editing the contents with the computer was not an issue, it finally caught my attention that I had done this debloat process around the time that I started having problems (a few days before - hadn't tried to use the SD card other than to read the files, which has always worked).
After several days of searching different things, uninstalling and reinstalling apps (before I checked the debloat process), and finally going one by one with each debloated app, I finally found the culprit. "External Storage" or "com.android.externalstorage" which lists by the LG app as bloatware. But after I turned it back on, the write access was returned to non-google apps.
*edit* I'm also looking for the culprit causing Android Pay to stop working (specifically, when I go to settings, General, Tap & Pay, settings crashes). I've already reenabled "Android Pay" "com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel" but Settings still crashes when I click on Tap & Pay, so there's some other dependency. And Android Pay is a google service, not related to LG bloatware, so *shouldn't* be just disabled "because" especially when it causes apps to crash just by clicking the wrong button - such as SETTINGS.
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No disrespect to the op who was trying to share something that seems useful (he didn't write this app), BUT...
There's some things in those screenshots that should NOT be disabled. I do question the person who wrote this app. *
In your case for Android Pay, check the NFC stuff. Android Pay depends on NFC working. THAT (NFC) should never never never be disabled. "NFC" is is not an "LG" bloatware -- that is Android system stuff. I made fun of OnePlus for shipping a phone without NFC, and we're disabling it on OUR phones? NFC settings (page 7 of the screenshots in the op). By the way, NFC isn't just for Android Pay, it does other things too.
Some more that seems important...
Hidden Menu (helps you enable more LTE bands, check your OLED display for uniformity, and other things)
Print Spooler (Android service, not LG at all). My wife and I print from our smartphones to our wireless printer all the time. Even if you don't right now, in the future you may and will you really remember you DISABLED this very handy feature?
FM radio. There are some carriers who will NOT allow you to have this (Verizon, cough), and people are forced to SIDELOAD it to get it on their phones and the dev wants you to disable it?
"Qualcomm location" is useful, is related to GPS.
Wi-Fi calling and "W-Fi calling settings". Intertwined with VoLTE. All major carriers have that feature and even smaller carriers are rolling it out.
VPN stuff (two different settings in that list). I've used VPN many times, for work and personal reasons. Besides, many non-root ad blockers use VPN to redirect ad requests.
NFC settings (already mentioned, page 7 of the screenshots in the op)
And of course the External Storage service you mentioned which controls functionality of the microSD card storage.
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stu5797 said:
I am running into a little issue though. I disable everything in in the open and I lose hd calling.
Anyone know which I need to re enable to get volte back [or hd calling)
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Probably the two Wi-Fi calling settings. I know with at least one major U.S. carrier, the VoLTE/Wi-Fi calling are very intertwined.
There's stuff in here that should NOT be disabled if you want your phone to work right.
* Whoever wrote this (now banned) app seems to have very limited world experience with carriers and smartphones.
Disabling external storage? What, you want a flip phone? Then buy a flip phone.
Disabling Wi-Fi calling? Crazy. Most major carriers are offering this, and even smaller carriers are rolling it out.
Same thing with print spooler and even VPN above. It's like they are trying to turn an LG phone into a OnePlus phone or worse, where users PRETEND they have a top tier Android but really don't.
Yes, some other things in the 11 page list should be hibernated with Greenify, but not totally disabled. It should not be in a disable list.
And you should definitely NOT remove them with ADB. Be very careful!
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Back to our discussion.
3) There's stuff you do NOT want to touch
In Titanium Backup, all the "system" stuff is in red letters. BE VERY CAREFUL! "360 Image Wallpaper" and "360 Video"? I'll never use that, but on the other hand removing it doesn't really help me get more user space back (unless I'm wrong about protected system space). However, you could freeze it in Titanium Backup if you suspected it was using RAM...
I see "SprintService 8.0.0.0" listed in red on my original US998 V30+ -- which is ironic since Sprint doesn't allow the US998 to be activated on their network. Maybe I could remove that, but again is it really hurting me and is it possibly helping me in some way? There's a lot of stuff interconnected that when you remove you find you haven't made the phone faster, but now have lag (since the phone looks for that stuff instead of moving on).
So, freeze or hibernate. Actually uninstall with caution. Make good TWRP backups.
Anybody else can chime in -- but PLEASE do not recommend any of the package disabler apps. We are discussing debloating ROOTED firmware.
I don't even bother with deleting system stuff. This phone really doesn't have that much bloat. And deleting stuff probably won't do much to make a difference anyway. The only reason I use the LG Package Disabler app is to disable the theme service when I want to apply an LG theme but also use substratum. That way it doesn't re-apply the LG theme and remove the substratum stuff on a reboot.
jsgraphicart said:
I don't even bother with deleting system stuff. This phone really doesn't have that much bloat. And deleting stuff probably won't do much to make a difference anyway. The only reason I use the LG Package Disabler app is to disable the theme service when I want to apply an LG theme but also use substratum. That way it doesn't re-apply the LG theme and remove the substratum stuff on a reboot.
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you can use adb uninstall too, so no extra app needed (though you can reactivate apps with lgpd? maybe easier then.). just google for it, there's plenty of info and more than one method :good:
seadersn said:
you can use adb uninstall too, so no extra app needed (though you can reactivate apps with lgpd? maybe easier then.). just google for it, there's plenty of info and more than one method :good:
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Yeah, I need to be able to re-enable it if I want to change an LG theme or go back to the default one. Completely removing it probably wouldn't be smart