What is the RAM for an Archos 101 16gb. I have looked on the archos website at teir tech spec for this device and it doesnt specify. Can anyone tell me how much it has and also how I can see how much my various apps etc are using.
Pete917 said:
What is the RAM for an Archos 101 16gb. I have looked on the archos website at teir tech spec for this device and it doesnt specify. Can anyone tell me how much it has and also how I can see how much my various apps etc are using.
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Main Memory is always 256 MiByte.
Kashban said:
Main Memory is always 256 MiByte.
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Thank you.
How can I find out how much Im using and how much is free. If I look in the System Monitor it shows an available amount in the top left of the screen. Mine shows 90mb free. That's when I have checked stop all apps...
Am I looking at the right thing? Does the 101 really take 166mb just to tick over?
Get. Memory Booster Lite.
It shows detailed info. and includes a app manager
The Ram ist usually under 100mb. if u run an app that needs much ram. android will stop some other apps in background, so u can use about 110mb of ram for a single app.
the new firmware should help out a little (swap)
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Hello, as we know, Galaxy S1 was advertised with 512MB ram, but in real there was only ~340MB of usable RAM! So i want to ask, how much ram is usable for applications and how much is free after fresh boot? Can someone check this? You can see this informations in task manager.
I think its about 800-850 RAM.
The original SGS had 512mb of ram as advertised. For some reason people assume that their phone behaves different than their computer. The operating system and everything like that needs to use the ram as well.
AS stated though I understand the SGS2 to have approximately 850MB of ram free after running the OS etc.
If I continually hit advanced task killer it will give me about 445MB free. In the standard task manager it says /833MB.
I don't really think this is all too relevant. You will never have anywhere near the maximum amount available just as you won't in a modern PC either and with phone OS's getting more power hungry and complex this is unlikely to change.
If the amount of ram bothers you check the video of the guy doing heavy multitasking on the phone and that will clear your mind.
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kickassdave said:
If I continually hit advanced task killer it will give me about 445MB free. In the standard task manager it says /833MB.
I don't really think this is all too relevant. You will never have anywhere near the maximum amount available just as you won't in a modern PC either and with phone OS's getting more power hungry and complex this is unlikely to change.
If the amount of ram bothers you check the video of the guy doing heavy multitasking on the phone and that will clear your mind.
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Thank you for usefull information. I'm just interested in real numbers, because HTC phones have all advertised ram available to system, instead of samsung, which is cheating about this. Yes the OS is using ram... but from 833MB, not from 1gig. How can system use ram which is not visible to system? Android is linux, you can easily see how much ram is available and usable for system... it's 833 not 1gig. I believe that there is 1GB ram chip, but some memory is dedicated to other components. However 833 MB is really enough for mobile phone.
Shanakin said:
The original SGS had 512mb of ram as advertised.
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It did have 512MB of ram in hardware, but a pretty big part of the 512mb was actually dedicated video memory for 3d and movies. The Galaxy Tab 7" which was advertised with 512MB actually had ~600MB of ram in hardware, with extra ram outside the 512MB being for the dedicated video.
With the SGS2 it seems to be as the original SGS with dedicated video ram being taken out of the 1GB. It's easy enough to check by looking at the kernel config files. (And you can even tweak the numbers a bit to get a bit more free ram, as was done in the SGS)
Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
ranwej said:
Thank you for usefull information. I'm just interested in real numbers, because HTC phones have all advertised ram available to system, instead of samsung, which is cheating about this. Yes the OS is using ram... but from 833MB, not from 1gig. How can system use ram which is not visible to system? Android is linux, you can easily see how much ram is available and usable for system... it's 833 not 1gig. I believe that there is 1GB ram chip, but some memory is dedicated to other components. However 833 MB is really enough for mobile phone.
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Htc does/did this as well. My Legend is advertised with 384mb ram, but only 290 is available to the system.
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pulser_g2 said:
Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Your philosophy is absolutely correct. In Windows that might be a good thing, because it starts buffering to the HD when you run out. But Android will just close some background processes automatically to clear ram as needed.
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pulser_g2 said:
Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Unfortunately people these days only know about ram management from that poor excuse of an OS called Windows.... excluding 7.
pulser_g2 said:
Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Agreed, as long as there is a big line between FREE RAM and TOTAL RAM. More total RAM is always a very very good thing regardless of how good the ram management is.
This thread is about total RAM available to Linux/Android, so it's good imho.
Hi all.
How much is the actually Total RAM on Optimus one.? I have 74 used and 323 free . Totally 397
I remember having more than 410 MB Free Ram before flashing Franco's zram. As the latest kernel doesn't require zram. I removed it using the remove-zram.zip . Expecting to get Back the lost ram. But I still don't get more than 397 . Please help to get back all the ram and can any body please post their running apps screen shot
..to compare it with mine
You're lucky dr.notor isn't here or he would have come up with some sarcastic reply to this question.
Having 13 MB of ram less than normal is no big deal. The system uses the difference (512-397) for its use. And the system usage keeps varying, so you will never have a constant amount of free ram available. I seriously doubt zram is the problem. Also, our phone has tons of ram so stop obsessing over it. I'm quoting a paragraph from an article on lifehacker.com:
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
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If you want to read the full article you can find it here.
anirudhnyg said:
Hi all.
How much is the actually Total RAM on Optimus one.? I have 74 used and 323 free . Totally 397
I remember having more than 410 MB Free Ram before flashing Franco's zram. As the latest kernel doesn't require zram. I removed it using the remove-zram.zip . Expecting to get Back the lost ram. But I still don't get more than 397 . Please help to get back all the ram and can any body please post their running apps screen shot
..to compare it with mine
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Total ram is always 418mb or a bit higher regardless of zram
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mihir287 said:
You're lucky dr.notor isn't here or he would have come up with some sarcastic reply to this question.
Having 13 MB of ram less than normal is no big deal. The system uses the difference (512-397) for its use. And the system usage keeps varying, so you will never have a constant amount of free ram available. I seriously doubt zram is the problem. Also, our phone has tons of ram so stop obsessing over it. I'm quoting a paragraph from an article on lifehacker.com:
If you want to read the full article you can find it here.
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thanks!.... I was just curious
I have been so busy catching up with all the amazing stuff Da_G has been pumping out (thanks!) that I didn't even take a look at this until now. I am showing that we only have 733MB of avaliable RAM. That is a far cry from 1024MB.
I am seeing 733MB w/ both Android System Info and with the built-in Task Manager.
Does anyone know if we indeed have 1024MB of RAM and... if it is just assigned else where?
Yes we have 1GB every phone has RAM missing because the system is holding it.
I remember one time the OS didn't support that much not sure if that's the case now but the phone has 1GB to my knowledge and.what I've read
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Just like memory... Do we really have 16gb? Its never what they say... All marketing!
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I have also read that is has 1GB everywhere, but missing 291MB seems like an awful lot.
I beleive my Atrix showed 897MB. I just seems like an awful lot 'mssing' w/ the Note.
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Just like memory... Do we really have 16gb? Its never what they say... All marketing!
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I am with you on that! Makes me
I noticed the same, it's showing short but using the same app(system tuner pro) on my G2 it showed the correct 512mb.
It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
Graphics memory
As with any computer your phone has a gpu which needs graphics memory and because the gpu is integrated (SOC) it takes its memory off the top. This can be seen with any computer you have with integrated graphics it will section off some memory for your gpu.
As for the flash memory space many issues can take it down such as the file system, operating system, it just depends but trust me before the phone was turned on and android installed it had 16gb of memory and 1gb of ram
I'm about 100% CPU and GPU can't share ram as they do completely different tasks. They could have just added the cram and the ram to get 1GB though... But otherwise, the missing ram is from system tasks and the OS.
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It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
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Do we have a reference or any proof of this?
And to the post directly above this, any computer that does not have a dedicated graphics card uses shared system memory, just like our phones. 733MB is just quite a bit away from 1024MB.
they can and do use the same memory because they are the same soc aka system on chip. all this is integrated.
So if you built a PC yourself and loaded it with 2gig RAM and booted into windows it would have 2 gig FREE memory?
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So if you built a PC yourself and loaded it with 2gig RAM and booted into windows it would have 2 gig FREE memory?
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I am not talking about FREE. I am talking about the system as a whole. Do we really have 1GB of RAM? Where it is being used I am not so concerned about at this point, but it may help us figure out if we do indeed have 1GB (Where is the remaing 291MB assigned).
The missing 291 is being used by android..to load the launcher Widgets and everything else in the background.
MrDSL said:
The missing 291 is being used by android..to load the launcher Widgets and everything else in the background.
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i have international version of note.its same way on this one.the missing ram is held by system tasks.as for 16gb storage memory.if you wipe all area on usb storage .u will have 16gb but not a working phone.another thing about free ram.dont use task manager to stop apps.all it does is make the phone lag.leave everything running.
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It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
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You have 300-500 MB FREE ram? My note is bone stock and I'm running at 400/700 MB RAM (meaning 300 MB free). This is also when I "Clear memory" too. Something wrong with my apps?
tizzy said:
You have 300-500 MB FREE ram? My note is bone stock and I'm running at 400/700 MB RAM (meaning 300 MB free). This is also when I "Clear memory" too. Something wrong with my apps?
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I have 700 free. With just 2 home screens 2 Widgets and a few apps and live wallpaper.
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Two dozen open apps on mine right now, and it shows 283 MB used, 302 MB free.
On my AT&T gs2 I consistantly show 830 to 850 MB free. On my note I only see a lil over 700. How can this have less ram than my gs2? I have over 80 app on my gs2 and less than half that on my note!!!
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Probably xtra things (like snote )loaded on note that wouldn't be on your s2
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So I know the Atrix 4G is advertised as 1GB RAM and I found the below thread for the bionic which explains where this person's "missing RAM" is at...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262368
but from the research I find about the Atrix, it says that 512MB is for phone uses and the other 512 is enabled in Webdock mode. My question is...
Do any custom ROMS enable the other 512MB for phone use?
That's not true. When Webdock is not running then it is not using any RAM. Even with a "Stock" ROM the phone shows around 700MB of RAM on the user end. The rest is for the System.
butikofer08 said:
So I know the Atrix 4G is advertised as 1GB RAM and I found the below thread for the bionic which explains where this person's "missing RAM" is at...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262368
but from the research I find about the Atrix, it says that 512MB is for phone uses and the other 512 is enabled in Webdock mode. My question is...
Do any custom ROMS enable the other 512MB for phone use?
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Thanks for clearing that up for me, Im trying to find the source where I read that cuz my GO launcher says over 900mb total and Android settings»manage applications lists nearly 750mb so not sure what that source was saying, I guess its more likely I miss understood
3rd party apps, such as SetCPU or Go Launcher in your case, tends to show the "total" RAM while the "Running Services" in the Settings menu shows the actual availability to the "user". Android, itself, allocates RAM that is not visible to the user and at times is not completely used either.
Here is a informative article to help clear up any other aspects of RAM you might want to know about:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
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Thanks for clearing that up for me, Im trying to find the source where I read that cuz my GO launcher says over 900mb total and Android settings»manage applications lists nearly 750mb so not sure what that source was saying, I guess its more likely I miss understood
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Wow! What an informative article. I know from first hand experience how task killers bog down your phone, so I don't Use them, buti am guilty of constantly checking the system running applications and freeing up as much ram as possible. I found the "why it doesn't matter"section especially informative.
I purchased a Simdo D98T from Pandawill. While the phone isnt pretty and the touchscreen is not well calibrated, I was impressed with the antenna quality: best wifi and GPS I have seen in any phone.
The phone reports 1G of RAM, but the lowest I have seen free RAM has been around 639MB. Programs are closed as soon as you put them in foreground and Firefox even closed on me while working, while still reporting around 640MB of free RAM.
Can the manufacturer reportan incorrect amount of RAM and tweak the kernel to use only part of it?
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The RAM might have been used by system.. Actually 1GB RAM should be 800MB+ available for users.
hjc4869 said:
The RAM might have been used by system.. Actually 1GB RAM should be 800MB+ available for users.
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Thats the issue: the kernel closes programs and available RAM never goes under 640MB.